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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71281830 Israel 01/23/2016 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe we shouldn't? I don't know, because I want to remind you, I haven't found anything about this in scripture and literature, its still all intuition and conjecture, could be right could be wrong. What could possibly go wrong I don't know, Saturn's rings would be a nice thing to look at from my window. but perhaps its not scriptural and it is just not going to happen. |
FOY User ID: 62940023 United States 01/23/2016 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe we shouldn't? I don't know, because I want to remind you, I haven't found anything about this in scripture and literature, its still all intuition and conjecture, could be right could be wrong. What could possibly go wrong I don't know, Saturn's rings would be a nice thing to look at from my window. but perhaps its not scriptural and it is just not going to happen. Okay , well I'm just hoping for the messianic age . Saturn or no saturn Let me ask you this , is there any truth to the 6000 years then 1000 years thing ? If so don't we got 225 more years ? Kisses |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71281830 Israel 01/23/2016 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71281830 maybe we shouldn't? I don't know, because I want to remind you, I haven't found anything about this in scripture and literature, its still all intuition and conjecture, could be right could be wrong. What could possibly go wrong I don't know, Saturn's rings would be a nice thing to look at from my window. but perhaps its not scriptural and it is just not going to happen. Okay , well I'm just hoping for the messianic age . Saturn or no saturn Let me ask you this , is there any truth to the 6000 years then 1000 years thing ? If so don't we got 225 more years ? 6000 is the sure date... any sooner than that, its a bonus. A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the LORD will hasten it in his time. Isa 60:22 if it is hastened, then it is not in its time :) |
FOY User ID: 62940023 United States 01/23/2016 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know, Saturn's rings would be a nice thing to look at from my window. but perhaps its not scriptural and it is just not going to happen. Okay , well I'm just hoping for the messianic age . Saturn or no saturn Let me ask you this , is there any truth to the 6000 years then 1000 years thing ? If so don't we got 225 more years ? 6000 is the sure date... any sooner than that, its a bonus. A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the LORD will hasten it in his time. Isa 60:22 if it is hastened, then it is not in its time :) Kisses |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44566453 United Kingdom 01/23/2016 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A) It's not a 'discovery' it's a hypothesis - nothing has been found yet. B) Even if it is there, and is found... IT IS NOT NIBIRU How is it you know everything ? I don't. But I do know a fair bit about astronomy, and understand that certain KBOs appear to have been shepherded into their current orbits. The most likely culprit would indeed be a large planetary mass object in the far reaches of the Kuiper Belt. Should this object exist, it's orbit wouldn't bring it any nearer to us than at least 10x the orbital distance of Pluto. This projected orbit isn't even remotely similar to the Nibtards' description of their fantasy planet. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71281830 Israel 01/23/2016 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A) It's not a 'discovery' it's a hypothesis - nothing has been found yet. B) Even if it is there, and is found... IT IS NOT NIBIRU How is it you know everything ? I don't. But I do know a fair bit about astronomy, and understand that certain KBOs appear to have been shepherded into their current orbits. The most likely culprit would indeed be a large planetary mass object in the far reaches of the Kuiper Belt. Should this object exist, it's orbit wouldn't bring it any nearer to us than at least 10x the orbital distance of Pluto. This projected orbit isn't even remotely similar to the Nibtards' description of their fantasy planet. im not going to argue, I don't have much knowledge in the subject. but if that is as close as its going to get, then it wont have any impact on Saturn. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71281830 Israel 01/23/2016 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71281830 I don't know, Saturn's rings would be a nice thing to look at from my window. but perhaps its not scriptural and it is just not going to happen. Okay , well I'm just hoping for the messianic age . Saturn or no saturn Let me ask you this , is there any truth to the 6000 years then 1000 years thing ? If so don't we got 225 more years ? 6000 is the sure date... any sooner than that, its a bonus. A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the LORD will hasten it in his time. Isa 60:22 if it is hastened, then it is not in its time :) check this out. Thread: The Truth About the Stars |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44566453 United Kingdom 01/23/2016 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44566453 A) It's not a 'discovery' it's a hypothesis - nothing has been found yet. B) Even if it is there, and is found... IT IS NOT NIBIRU How is it you know everything ? I don't. But I do know a fair bit about astronomy, and understand that certain KBOs appear to have been shepherded into their current orbits. The most likely culprit would indeed be a large planetary mass object in the far reaches of the Kuiper Belt. Should this object exist, it's orbit wouldn't bring it any nearer to us than at least 10x the orbital distance of Pluto. This projected orbit isn't even remotely similar to the Nibtards' description of their fantasy planet. im not going to argue, I don't have much knowledge in the subject. but if that is as close as its going to get, then it wont have any impact on Saturn. No, it won't have any direct impact on anything from pluto/Neptune, inwards. If it exists, it's most likely been out there for as long as the Earth has existed, going round and round for billions of years - and will continue to 'mind it's own business' (apart from maybe sending an occasional comet into the inner solar system) And even if something that far out were headed our way, it would take many thousands of years to get here - nothing for us to worry about - that's how celestial mechanics works. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71281830 Israel 01/23/2016 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't. But I do know a fair bit about astronomy, and understand that certain KBOs appear to have been shepherded into their current orbits. The most likely culprit would indeed be a large planetary mass object in the far reaches of the Kuiper Belt. Should this object exist, it's orbit wouldn't bring it any nearer to us than at least 10x the orbital distance of Pluto. This projected orbit isn't even remotely similar to the Nibtards' description of their fantasy planet. im not going to argue, I don't have much knowledge in the subject. but if that is as close as its going to get, then it wont have any impact on Saturn. No, it won't have any direct impact on anything from pluto/Neptune, inwards. If it exists, it's most likely been out there for as long as the Earth has existed, going round and round for billions of years - and will continue to 'mind it's own business' (apart from maybe sending an occasional comet into the inner solar system) And even if something that far out were headed our way, it would take many thousands of years to get here - nothing for us to worry about - that's how celestial mechanics works. I guess... I just remember people talking about it having an oval orbit that gets all the way to the inner solar system, perhaps I wasn't paying attention though. nibiru aside... what do you think about the theory that Saturn was once the sun of earth? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70148119 United States 01/23/2016 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this thread turned into a lust for AGs tits? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71294699 For that gentlemen, i give thanks in these days of youporn et al, doesnt it fill you with warmth that we still long for a pic of some non existent tits? Oh they exist alright, but they're for one man's eyes only. A) It's not a 'discovery' it's a hypothesis - nothing has been found yet. B) Even if it is there, and is found... IT IS NOT NIBIRU How is it you know everything ? Because it is Astros anonymous account |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44566453 United Kingdom 01/23/2016 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess... I just remember people talking about it having an oval orbit that gets all the way to the inner solar system, perhaps I wasn't paying attention though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71281830 That was just Nibtards failing to understand a diagram of it's orbit posted in an online report. Wishful thinkung... or wilful stuidity...? Either way, same result, a failure to understand just how far out this thing would have to be. If it exists, it's orbit WOULD be elliptical, but with perihelion at 500-600au, and aphelion at around 1200au - by comparison, Pluto's distance from the Sun varies between 29½au and nearly 50au nibiru aside... what do you think about the theory that Saturn was once the sun of earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71281830 Frank answer... Utter bollox! Absolute minimum mass for the smallest proper star (red dwarf) is around 75 Jupiter masses - there's absolutely no way that somehow Saturn lost 74½ Jupiter masses |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71281830 Israel 01/23/2016 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess... I just remember people talking about it having an oval orbit that gets all the way to the inner solar system, perhaps I wasn't paying attention though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71281830 That was just Nibtards failing to understand a diagram of it's orbit posted in an online report. Wishful thinkung... or wilful stuidity...? Either way, same result, a failure to understand just how far out this thing would have to be. If it exists, it's orbit WOULD be elliptical, but with perihelion at 500-600au, and aphelion at around 1200au - by comparison, Pluto's distance from the Sun varies between 29½au and nearly 50au nibiru aside... what do you think about the theory that Saturn was once the sun of earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71281830 Frank answer... Utter bollox! Absolute minimum mass for the smallest proper star (red dwarf) is around 75 Jupiter masses - there's absolutely no way that somehow Saturn lost 74½ Jupiter masses oh man... your know it all mister big scientist attitude really prevents you from understanding the universe. who said Saturn as the sun of earth was emitting light? the universe is much more spiritual and fluid than your cold science. also, stars are small, triangulation is flawed, light emission is not enough to determine size... too many variable too many assumptions. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44566453 United Kingdom 01/23/2016 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No it isn't I've made the measurements, and done the calculations myself. You see... When you study beyond high-school level in sciences, you don't just read and memorise from books. You do the observations, and experiments for youself - you verify that the principles/methods in the books, do in fact, work. That's the problem with so many internet procrastinators - the haven't a fucking clue, and then try to argue/disagree with people who have actually done the work for themselves. Stars, are indeed, at the distances quoted in text books (to within the tolerances of the methods used) Whether you agree, or not. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71281830 Israel 01/23/2016 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No it isn't I've made the measurements, and done the calculations myself. You see... When you study beyond high-school level in sciences, you don't just read and memorise from books. You do the observations, and experiments for youself - you verify that the principles/methods in the books, do in fact, work. That's the problem with so many internet procrastinators - the haven't a fucking clue, and then try to argue/disagree with people who have actually done the work for themselves. Stars, are indeed, at the distances quoted in text books (to within the tolerances of the methods used) Whether you agree, or not. when they tell you that when a light emits X amount of light it means it is so and so in size... that's an assumption. and assumption upon which you base your calculations... but that assumption can be wrong. the biggest triangulation that can be preformed is using earth position and summer, and even that cant work for more than a few light years. you guys are deceiving the world. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71281830 Israel 01/23/2016 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | conceded. then what do you say about the theory that Saturn was fixed above the northern pole? I really can't see how it could be possible. me neither, except for electric universe, and the fact there are countless myths around the world speaking of a bygone age when Saturn was fixed above the north pole. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44566453 United Kingdom 01/23/2016 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when they tell you that when a light emits X amount of light it means it is so and so in size... that's an assumption. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71281830 and assumption upon which you base your calculations... but that assumption can be wrong. Light intensity falls off with the inverse square law (again - I've done the experiments) So by observing something's brightness - if you knpw the distance, you can work out the intrinsic brightness to a good accuracy the biggest triangulation that can be preformed is using earth position and summer, and even that cant work for more than a few light years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71281830 Actually, you can observe a star, and by making several measurements over a year, you can see it appear to inscribe a mini version of earth's orbit. (and again... we did the observations) Ground-based observatory-class telescopes can get a reasonable accuracy out to a hundred lt yrs or so. Heck, Bessel got a reasonable measurement at 10 lt yrs distance when he measured 61 Cygni way back in 1838 And you seriously think we're still struggling to measure a few light years in 2015/6...? Where do you get this crap from? The Hipparcos satellite was far more accurate and between 1989 and '93 gave us decent accuracy out to about 500 parsecs (1600+ lt yrs) And Gaia (launched in 2013) will eventually give us good measurements for distances in the 10s of thousands of light years |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44566453 United Kingdom 01/23/2016 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | me neither, except for electric universe, and the fact there are countless myths around the world speaking of a bygone age when Saturn was fixed above the north pole. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71281830 And there we have it - we finally reached Looneyland central station.... On that I will bid you goodnight. (Got an early start and a busy day tomorrow, and it's fast approaching 11:30pm here) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71281830 Israel 01/23/2016 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when they tell you that when a light emits X amount of light it means it is so and so in size... that's an assumption. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71281830 and assumption upon which you base your calculations... but that assumption can be wrong. Light intensity falls off with the inverse square law (again - I've done the experiments) So by observing something's brightness - if you knpw the distance, you can work out the intrinsic brightness to a good accuracy the biggest triangulation that can be preformed is using earth position and summer, and even that cant work for more than a few light years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71281830 Actually, you can observe a star, and by making several measurements over a year, you can see it appear to inscribe a mini version of earth's orbit. (and again... we did the observations) Ground-based observatory-class telescopes can get a reasonable accuracy out to a hundred lt yrs or so. Heck, Bessel got a reasonable measurement at 10 lt yrs distance when he measured 61 Cygni way back in 1838 And you seriously think we're still struggling to measure a few light years in 2015/6...? Where do you get this crap from? The Hipparcos satellite was far more accurate and between 1989 and '93 gave us decent accuracy out to about 500 parsecs (1600+ lt yrs) And Gaia (launched in 2013) will eventually give us good measurements for distances in the 10s of thousands of light years but you don't know the distance... you supposedly use brightness to determine distance (if triangulation cant be used) circular logic!!! the same thing you do with the geological column. second statement is straight up bullshit. again, the biggest triangle you can ever produce is by measuring once in the summer and once in the winter, and this big ass triangle is not accurate enough beyond few light years. also... light is not a constant lol... all the foundation pillars of modern astrophysics are shaking. |
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