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Red Alert!!! Baltic Dry Index all time lows!!! Collapse is here!

 
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China Containerized Freight Index Collapses to Worst Level Ever...

Shanghai Containerized Freight Index Plunges to New Low ...
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worse than 2008!!
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Maybe - if it takes into account all the NEW ships built and put into service since '08... just a thought gents... bubbles are bubbles, how long does it take to build a freighter keel up... me thinks we are seeing a skewed inventory based on 2007 shipping volume...
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Its not how much stuff is shipping. It's how much it COST to ship.

Cheap to ship now. Oil prices are low.

Stuff is still flowing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44881304


Wrong! Try again or learn to math.

Oil prices account for a 40% overall shipping cost. The drop is well beyond 40% in accordance with current oil prices.

This is also leaving out the fact that cost to manufacture is also cheaper with the reduction in oil price (virtually everything is a petroleum product in manufacturing today), which should increase demand as prices would be cheaper overall, offsetting the 40% decrease at % decrease in petroleum. This increases demand, and in this global market, demand is also slowing, only exasperating the root issue.

Note that 40% of the cost to ship is due to oil, and oil also drops at its own rate, so it's a percentage of a percentage.

You are seeing a major decrease in shipping goods, not a decrease in cost to ship goods. Credit purchases and in store credit cards like best buy has are also great to watch, as it means people buy garbage they don't need and can't afford. This has grinding to a major halt.

Economic slow down confirmed. It's going to take a new trend and rabid consumerism to pick it up. Tech like phones, tv's, and electrics have saved us around 2010/2011 to where we are today, but that is slowing down big time.
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If it costs 40% less to ship stuff, Is the airlines charging 40% less to ship the Sheeples arsses around the country?
Are Airlines really charging 40% less?
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Back in 2012 China was demanding that every American citizen be disarmed. And I don't think it has anything to do with an invasion. At least not now. I've heard that 5 Chinese banks hold many of your mortgages through MERS. Get the picture?
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THE CHINESE ARE VERY SNEAKY VERY SLIMY DO NOT TRUST.
FOR 6000 YEARS THEY HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES TO BE SUCH.
THEY ARE COLD AS ICE HARD AS STEEL SOULLESS INSECTILES.

IF THEY HAVE THEIR TENTACLES IN YOUR GOVERNMENT ITS ALREADY TOO LATE YOU ARE FUCKED. SORRY.
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Back in 2012 China was demanding that every American citizen be disarmed. And I don't think it has anything to do with an invasion. At least not now. I've heard that 5 Chinese banks hold many of your mortgages through MERS. Get the picture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58670080


THE CHINESE ARE VERY SNEAKY VERY SLIMY DO NOT TRUST.
FOR 6000 YEARS THEY HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES TO BE SUCH.
THEY ARE COLD AS ICE HARD AS STEEL SOULLESS INSECTILES.

IF THEY HAVE THEIR TENTACLES IN YOUR GOVERNMENT ITS ALREADY TOO LATE YOU ARE FUCKED. SORRY.
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Yeah, but still better than the Jews...
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Back in 2012 China was demanding that every American citizen be disarmed. And I don't think it has anything to do with an invasion. At least not now. I've heard that 5 Chinese banks hold many of your mortgages through MERS. Get the picture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58670080


THE CHINESE ARE VERY SNEAKY VERY SLIMY DO NOT TRUST.
FOR 6000 YEARS THEY HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES TO BE SUCH.
THEY ARE COLD AS ICE HARD AS STEEL SOULLESS INSECTILES.

IF THEY HAVE THEIR TENTACLES IN YOUR GOVERNMENT ITS ALREADY TOO LATE YOU ARE FUCKED. SORRY.
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The Chinese will continue to maintain their culture and sovereignty and wait out the rest, let them all implode on themselves, as we all can see happening now.
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currency war going on with china

they will lose in the end.
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he who holds the gold wins in the end, as long as his army can rise to the occasion!
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Mohammar Khadafi agrees with this statement ohyeah
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Back in 2012 China was demanding that every American citizen be disarmed. And I don't think it has anything to do with an invasion. At least not now. I've heard that 5 Chinese banks hold many of your mortgages through MERS. Get the picture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58670080


THE CHINESE ARE VERY SNEAKY VERY SLIMY DO NOT TRUST.
FOR 6000 YEARS THEY HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES TO BE SUCH.
THEY ARE COLD AS ICE HARD AS STEEL SOULLESS INSECTILES.

IF THEY HAVE THEIR TENTACLES IN YOUR GOVERNMENT ITS ALREADY TOO LATE YOU ARE FUCKED. SORRY.
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Tough to identify in amongst the Jesuit tentacles, the LGBT tentacles, the russo-marxist tentacles, and the islamic tentacles with its shia and sunni flavours of course.
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Its not how much stuff is shipping. It's how much it COST to ship.

Cheap to ship now. Oil prices are low.

Stuff is still flowing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44881304


Cheap to ship because there's plenty of space on ships. BDI is a supply/demand indicator. Less demand for a service means lower price.
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Went to get gas yesterday and noticed that Gas and Diesel are the same price at the pump. Is that normal?? I always seen diesel higher. Virginia gas is still sitting at 1.69 per gallon.
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Back in 2012 China was demanding that every American citizen be disarmed. And I don't think it has anything to do with an invasion. At least not now. I've heard that 5 Chinese banks hold many of your mortgages through MERS. Get the picture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58670080


THE CHINESE ARE VERY SNEAKY VERY SLIMY DO NOT TRUST.
FOR 6000 YEARS THEY HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES TO BE SUCH.
THEY ARE COLD AS ICE HARD AS STEEL SOULLESS INSECTILES.

IF THEY HAVE THEIR TENTACLES IN YOUR GOVERNMENT ITS ALREADY TOO LATE YOU ARE FUCKED. SORRY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71335454


Tough to identify in amongst the Jesuit tentacles, the LGBT tentacles, the russo-marxist tentacles, and the islamic tentacles with its shia and sunni flavours of course.
 Quoting: Big Duke6


And let's not forget the greatest tentacle of them all: hentai tentacles.
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Collapse is somewhere, at different times, which is a part of balance.

I just hope the Peruvians save enough gold for themselves.


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it's carshed 50 times in recent years and NOTHING happened.
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hesright
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it's carshed 50 times in recent years and NOTHING happened.
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hesright
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Back in 2012 China was demanding that every American citizen be disarmed. And I don't think it has anything to do with an invasion. At least not now. I've heard that 5 Chinese banks hold many of your mortgages through MERS. Get the picture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58670080


THE CHINESE ARE VERY SNEAKY VERY SLIMY DO NOT TRUST.
FOR 6000 YEARS THEY HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES TO BE SUCH.
THEY ARE COLD AS ICE HARD AS STEEL SOULLESS INSECTILES.

IF THEY HAVE THEIR TENTACLES IN YOUR GOVERNMENT ITS ALREADY TOO LATE YOU ARE FUCKED. SORRY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71335454


Tough to identify in amongst the Jesuit tentacles, the LGBT tentacles, the russo-marxist tentacles, and the islamic tentacles with its shia and sunni flavours of course.
 Quoting: Big Duke6


so many tentacles.
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it's carshed 50 times in recent years and NOTHING happened.
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This.
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Everyone looks at the DOW
That is nothing but a propped up house of cards
This Baltic Dry Index is the real "canary in the coalmine"
The canary is reeling...
OOOPPPS it just fell to the bottom of the cage!

cattheendGet right with Jesus!
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The Railroads are a realtime barometer of the economy. It ain't looking good:

Norfolk Southern Corporation has announced disappointing financial results, and a cost-cutting plan that could eliminate 2000 jobs over the next four years.... [link to www.wdbj7.com]
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Wow !
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currency war going on with china

they will lose in the end.
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But what happens in the meantime?
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We lose too
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currency war going on with china

they will lose in the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57986670


But what happens in the meantime?
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


We lose too
 Quoting: Dumachii


hesright
When the name of Jesus is spoken OUT LOUD, the Holy Spirit is released into the spiritual atmosphere, light and life are released and darkness and death FLEE!

Love and Peace
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currency war going on with china

they will lose in the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57986670


But what happens in the meantime?
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


We lose too
 Quoting: Dumachii


but we lose less with China.
like a poker game?

but playing with Islam is more like chess. one king dies at the end.
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yawn sure sure..collapse lol
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yawn sure sure..collapse lol
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