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Is Sheriff Glenn Palmer guilty of conspiracy to commit murder? First post.

 
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MW, this is for you grouphug

you are strong, and while you are obviously very hurt and disappointed, you will not become weak and give up! it is always good seeing you around here and I always admired your strength.
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Thanks MW!

Don't let the shills get to you. hf
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My dad was a deputy with Palmer. Same state and county, but ages ago. We used to live in John Day. If anyone is on your side, its definitely Palmer.
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Excuse me, he was not on LaVoy Finicum's side. He lured this group to this meeting, then cut them off at the pass!
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Nope. Palmer is currently under the impression there's a target on his back as well. Sorry, you're just wrong.
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Thanks MW!

Don't let the shills get to you. hf
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I would think something was wrong if I did a threads, and the shills did not show up.
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My dad was a deputy with Palmer. Same state and county, but ages ago. We used to live in John Day. If anyone is on your side, its definitely Palmer.
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Excuse me, he was not on LaVoy Finicum's side. He lured this group to this meeting, then cut them off at the pass!
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Nope. Palmer is currently under the impression there's a target on his back as well. Sorry, you're just wrong.
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Though, admittedly, I have just as much evidence for my claims as you do for yours.
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LINK:Sheriff Glenn Palmer said in a statement to The Oregonian/OregonLive that "the government is going to have to concede something" to end the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

He said freeing a father-son ranching team from prison "would be a start. Sending the FBI home would be a start." He referred to the FBI's lead role in ending the refuge occupation.

"I just pray to God that cooler heads prevail and that no one gets killed," Palmer said.

The sheriff's endorsement of the militants' demands stunned law enforcement officials, most of whom would not publicly discuss the matter.
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He was a turncoat. He helped set up the ambush and lured them into the trap. Constitutional Sheriff my ass.
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LINK:Sheriff Glenn Palmer said in a statement to The Oregonian/OregonLive that "the government is going to have to concede something" to end the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

He said freeing a father-son ranching team from prison "would be a start. Sending the FBI home would be a start." He referred to the FBI's lead role in ending the refuge occupation.

"I just pray to God that cooler heads prevail and that no one gets killed," Palmer said.

The sheriff's endorsement of the militants' demands stunned law enforcement officials, most of whom would not publicly discuss the matter.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


He was a turncoat. He helped set up the ambush and lured them into the trap. Constitutional Sheriff my ass.
 Quoting: PBJ11

Speculation and lies
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LINK:Sheriff Glenn Palmer said in a statement to The Oregonian/OregonLive that "the government is going to have to concede something" to end the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

He said freeing a father-son ranching team from prison "would be a start. Sending the FBI home would be a start." He referred to the FBI's lead role in ending the refuge occupation.

"I just pray to God that cooler heads prevail and that no one gets killed," Palmer said.

The sheriff's endorsement of the militants' demands stunned law enforcement officials, most of whom would not publicly discuss the matter.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


He was a turncoat. He helped set up the ambush and lured them into the trap. Constitutional Sheriff my ass.
 Quoting: PBJ11


Exactly!
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LINK:Sheriff Glenn Palmer said in a statement to The Oregonian/OregonLive that "the government is going to have to concede something" to end the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

He said freeing a father-son ranching team from prison "would be a start. Sending the FBI home would be a start." He referred to the FBI's lead role in ending the refuge occupation.

"I just pray to God that cooler heads prevail and that no one gets killed," Palmer said.

The sheriff's endorsement of the militants' demands stunned law enforcement officials, most of whom would not publicly discuss the matter.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


He was a turncoat. He helped set up the ambush and lured them into the trap. Constitutional Sheriff my ass.
 Quoting: PBJ11

Speculation and lies
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We do speculate around here...that is to be expected, but we are pretty smart at it.
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I wish you all healing about this.

But actions create other actions...
What was expected?
what was gained?
Was the journey worth it?
Did the outcome make a difference?

In the end, was the energy just wasted?

We all make CHOICES..... good ones and bad ones.

Pick your fights when you know you CAN win?

Else, walk away.

We are a country of LAWS RULES.....

if you do not like it... move to a better country.



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What happens if the people inforcing the law are subverting it?
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Since becoming so involved with my research on the Bundy standoff at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, I, of course, was in shock yesterday to find Lavoy Finicum deceased.

Something has changed inside of me, and I will never be the same again. I will act differently, and I will speak differently. I am ill at ease now, and I will never sleep well again.

:jc1122:

If Sheriff Glenn Palmer came to see the Militia to speak about being a Constitutional Sheriff conveying these things to the group:

1. He felt the FBI should leave.
2. He felt the Hammonds should be released.

Now, I have proof on one of my threads that this happened.

Now, he gained the trust of the group.

Then he invites them to Grant County to speak of a group of 100, which they gladly did unarmed.

Then the group was ambushed by the same sheriff who had lured them there, the sheriff who they trust.

Is that not conspiracy to commit murder??????


mountain woman you are completely right.
he had this preplanned to trick them.
he might not of pulled the trigger.
but he knew it was going down and was the snake that pulled it off.


Thread: Good news at last from the Malheur Wildlife Refuge standoff. Sheriff Palmer of Grant County advised the Hammonds be released.
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smackdog said:I wanted to say:

The thing is, why should he (Lavoy) go to jail? So you have the people setting the filter on all the media being the same ones who violated his Constitutional rights in the first place. Therefore, the same people are at the same time judge, jury and executioner. Not a win for anyone. Since when was it okay to have carloads of people roadside executed for simple trespassing? It really won't end well for anyone when they have no limit to what they can do. It's just a matter of time. They were peaceful. Who did they murder? They said simply that if the Feds came to gun them down, they would defend themselves. All the while, they had communications open but no one came to talk. That's because they weren't interested in talk. They weren't interested in his grievances. They weren't interested in the Constitution. You shouldn't have carloads of people executed because of something they 'said'. It's easy to set that filter to all negative. Do you see the problem here? Meanwhile the people sworn to uphold the law and/or protect the Constitution don't recognize the Constitution. They don't recognize it's legal precedence above all other laws. There is a pattern of behavior here than cannot be ignored
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smackdog said:I wanted to say:

The thing is, why should he (Lavoy) go to jail? So you have the people setting the filter on all the media being the same ones who violated his Constitutional rights in the first place. Therefore, the same people are at the same time judge, jury and executioner. Not a win for anyone. Since when was it okay to have carloads of people roadside executed for simple trespassing? It really won't end well for anyone when they have no limit to what they can do. It's just a matter of time. They were peaceful. Who did they murder? They said simply that if the Feds came to gun them down, they would defend themselves. All the while, they had communications open but no one came to talk. That's because they weren't interested in talk. They weren't interested in his grievances. They weren't interested in the Constitution. You shouldn't have carloads of people executed because of something they 'said'. It's easy to set that filter to all negative. Do you see the problem here? Meanwhile the people sworn to uphold the law and/or protect the Constitution don't recognize the Constitution. They don't recognize it's legal precedence above all other laws. There is a pattern of behavior here than cannot be ignored
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Smackdog, you are not banned...sorry.
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Just to add same with response to in quotes:

What did you people EXPECT?

They carried AR Riffles like a deer on their back..... to show their power...

You already knew it would not end well??

Replay the WORDS that man spoke... he would die before going to jail

IT was NOT a peaceful protest at all.. their words were always VIOLENT....

What did you expect?

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The thing is, why should he go to jail? So you have the people setting the filter on all the media being the same ones who violated his Constitutional rights in the first place. Therefore, the same people are at the same time judge, jury and executioner. Not a win for anyone. Since when was it okay to have carloads of people roadside executed for simple trespassing? It really won't end well for anyone when they have no limit to what they can do. It's just a matter of time. They were peaceful. Who did they murder? They said simply that if the Feds came to gun them down, they would defend themselves. All the while, they had communications open but no one came to talk. That's because they weren't interested in talk. They weren't interested in his grievances. They weren't interested in the Constitution. You shouldn't have carloads of people executed because of something they 'said'. It's easy to set that filter to all negative. Do you see the problem here? Meanwhile the people sworn to uphold the law and/or protect the Constitution don't recognize the Constitution. They don't recognize it's legal precedence above all other laws. There is a pattern of behavior here than cannot be ignored.
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If showed me, not that i didnt believe it before, that the govt is curropt to the core and WILL kill to keep it that way.
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Sometimes, hard to sleep at night!
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Just to add same with response to in quotes:

What did you people EXPECT?

They carried AR Riffles like a deer on their back..... to show their power...

You already knew it would not end well??

Replay the WORDS that man spoke... he would die before going to jail

IT was NOT a peaceful protest at all.. their words were always VIOLENT....

What did you expect?

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The thing is, why should he go to jail? So you have the people setting the filter on all the media being the same ones who violated his Constitutional rights in the first place. Therefore, the same people are at the same time judge, jury and executioner. Not a win for anyone. Since when was it okay to have carloads of people roadside executed for simple trespassing? It really won't end well for anyone when they have no limit to what they can do. It's just a matter of time. They were peaceful. Who did they murder? They said simply that if the Feds came to gun them down, they would defend themselves. All the while, they had communications open but no one came to talk. That's because they weren't interested in talk. They weren't interested in his grievances. They weren't interested in the Constitution. You shouldn't have carloads of people executed because of something they 'said'. It's easy to set that filter to all negative. Do you see the problem here? Meanwhile the people sworn to uphold the law and/or protect the Constitution don't recognize the Constitution. They don't recognize it's legal precedence above all other laws. There is a pattern of behavior here than cannot be ignored.
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clappa
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This has brought the real among us to strange places.

I was fighting the shill army online last night, exhausted from being awake the night before (after they Murdered Finicum), and I was writing, thwarting shill's lies across various social media... and at one point, I woke up and I was typing. I was literally writing in my sleep! I've never been there before.

The Japanese samurai was focused on the supremacy of human intent - they believed that even after being killed, a truly focused and committed man could still strike their enemy in a final blow from beyond death.

I think I experienced a very soft American version of that last night.
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MW, I guess I couldn't blame you if you did, I really flew off the handle right after the news. But I feel distraught and forever changed too. It's become painfully clear what's going on. And it's already been years of distress already. Some people feel as if they're going crazy because the thing has been so taken out of context. People are not thinking!
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This has brought the real among us to strange places.

I was fighting the shill army online last night, exhausted from being awake the night before (after they Murdered Finicum), and I was writing, thwarting shill's lies across various social media... and at one point, I woke up and I was typing. I was literally writing in my sleep! I've never been there before.

The Japanese samurai was focused on the supremacy of human intent - they believed that even after being killed, a truly focused and committed man could still strike their enemy in a final blow from beyond death.

I think I experienced a very soft American version of that last night.
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Wow, I experienced a similar experience through this. I felt shock and feeling as if I knew LaVoy propelled me into a more focused place.
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I wish you all healing about this.

But actions create other actions...
What was expected?
what was gained?
Was the journey worth it?
Did the outcome make a difference?

In the end, was the energy just wasted?

We all make CHOICES..... good ones and bad ones.

Pick your fights when you know you CAN win?

Else, walk away.

We are a country of LAWS RULES.....

if you do not like it... move to a better country.



 Quoting: MoonEyes888


That's why the Bundys were there, to enforce the supreme law of the land. The Bundys are trying to return this country to the Rule of Law, and nothing you or anyone else can say about that.

The Truth is the Truth, and you are a liar.
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when where is the funeral?
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MW, I guess I couldn't blame you if you did, I really flew off the handle right after the news. But I feel distraught and forever changed too. It's become painfully clear what's going on. And it's already been years of distress already. Some people feel as if they're going crazy because the thing has been so taken out of context. People are not thinking!
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Listen, smack, I have been a heightened state of shock, especially after thinking the who lured them there was a Constitutional Sheriff.
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when where is the funeral?
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I don't know, but LaVoy was from Arizona.
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 Quoting: JimBomB


LINK:Sheriff Glenn Palmer said in a statement to The Oregonian/OregonLive that "the government is going to have to concede something" to end the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

He said freeing a father-son ranching team from prison "would be a start. Sending the FBI home would be a start." He referred to the FBI's lead role in ending the refuge occupation.

"I just pray to God that cooler heads prevail and that no one gets killed," Palmer said.

The sheriff's endorsement of the militants' demands stunned law enforcement officials, most of whom would not publicly discuss the matter.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


He was a turncoat. He helped set up the ambush and lured them into the trap. Constitutional Sheriff my ass.
 Quoting: PBJ11


Exactly!
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


Maybe the fbi knew about the meeting and knew what route they would have to take to get there and used it as an opportunity to make the arrest. They may have never told the sheriff about thief plans.

Either way, the group had to know of the risks involved every time they left the compound.
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MW- Im with you in spirit and truth! Appreciate you! May we all be strengthened
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when where is the funeral?
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I don't know, but LaVoy was from Arizona.
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I am puzzled by repeated statements attributed to Lavoy about not being taken alive. This guy had 11 kids and more grandkids then that. It is hard to believe that he would think like that.
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An excuse to shift narratives with your fake persona. And you're trying to make it touching? Lol.OK.

Or are you just handing the account over to someone else and trying to CYA when ppl realize its obviously a different person posting?

Whatever. Tool. You weren't very effective anyways.
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Big mouth for an AC. LOL!
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when where is the funeral?
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I don't know, but LaVoy was from Arizona.
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I am puzzled by repeated statements attributed to Lavoy about not being taken alive. This guy had 11 kids and more grandkids then that. It is hard to believe that he would think like that.
 Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent


He made that statement! It was just a statement. Now maybe he did feel this way but no one will ever know until the video is shown!

I suspect that he did challenge the cops/fbi thinking that they wouldn't shoot someone with their hands up on their head!

But the same old scenario got played again, the cops/fbi will yell that they felt threatened! Blah, Blah, Blah!





GLP