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Is Sheriff Glenn Palmer guilty of conspiracy to commit murder? First post.

 
Sunny Daze

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Sheriff Palmer was USED - he had his own meeting, because the one in Burns, organized by Judge "nasty" was canceled, because they heard that Pete Santilli, was going to be holding a "protest" meeting - outside ...

probably, no one bought any "tickets" or wanted to be subject to their identity check ... the meeting was canceled due to lack of interest, in being lied to anymore ... the people of Burns, finally understood, how they were being USED, by the FEDs, just like the Sheriff - everyone was getting "death threats" - on both sides of the issues, and it all started when the FBI showed up

Palmer is one of the good guys - but he got used - no doubt, intentionally, so no one would ever listen to him again
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I'm curious if many people will compare this to Waco, or the Freeman incident.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45848537


[link to www.oregonlive.com]

Ammon Bundy wants the people remaining at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge to go home and "please stand down," his attorney said Wednesday on the steps of the federal courthouse in downtown Portland.

It is not as bad as Waco, but I guess that is easy for me to say as I am not LaVoy Finicum nor his family.

So many are leaving the compound now...thank God, but what will happen to those who do not leave?
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


Hopefully it's been stated by now but information has come out that Amon Bundy did NOT make that statement & that the "lawyer" is an impostor.
 Quoting: Use your brian, moran!


yes, that is what I heard also, which came from Ammon's wife - Ammon said, repeatedly, he was ready to leave, as soon as the Hammonds were free, and the people of that county, were ready to take over the work he began, to restore the land, back to its rightful owners.

Ammon wouldn't want them to abandon what he started ... and he has just NOW begun to fight - he needs our support more than ever
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 Quoting: JimBomB


LINK:Sheriff Glenn Palmer said in a statement to The Oregonian/OregonLive that "the government is going to have to concede something" to end the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

He said freeing a father-son ranching team from prison "would be a start. Sending the FBI home would be a start." He referred to the FBI's lead role in ending the refuge occupation.

"I just pray to God that cooler heads prevail and that no one gets killed," Palmer said.

The sheriff's endorsement of the militants' demands stunned law enforcement officials, most of whom would not publicly discuss the matter.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


He was a turncoat. He helped set up the ambush and lured them into the trap. Constitutional Sheriff my ass.
 Quoting: PBJ11

Speculation and lies
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70326879



If he's a good guy, why isn't he standing up about them being ambushed? He went to the scene. He saw the car and probably the body. Why hasn't he spoken up about it?
PJ
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LINK:Sheriff Glenn Palmer said in a statement to The Oregonian/OregonLive that "the government is going to have to concede something" to end the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

He said freeing a father-son ranching team from prison "would be a start. Sending the FBI home would be a start." He referred to the FBI's lead role in ending the refuge occupation.

"I just pray to God that cooler heads prevail and that no one gets killed," Palmer said.

The sheriff's endorsement of the militants' demands stunned law enforcement officials, most of whom would not publicly discuss the matter.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


He was a turncoat. He helped set up the ambush and lured them into the trap. Constitutional Sheriff my ass.
 Quoting: PBJ11

Speculation and lies
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70326879



If he's a good guy, why isn't he standing up about them being ambushed? He went to the scene. He saw the car and probably the body. Why hasn't he spoken up about it?
 Quoting: PBJ11

The NSA's smear machine is pretty powerful. Can't imagine how much dirt they would have on me, and I am generally a good dude.
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OP, you are indeed correct.

They are all cursed by G-d now, they and their families.

This is the price that is paid.
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[link to www.latimes.com]

So this story seems to trickle out a little truth.

"A significant amount of the FBI’s information used to charge Ammon Bundy came from an activist named Pete Santilli, who was living inside the refuge and broadcasting live his conversations with fellow activists."

A lot of folks say he was a spook to begin with.

"At one point in a video, Santilli’s cameraman is recording Bundy speaking to another activist when the cameraman seems to realize he shouldn’t be broadcasting it. The cameraman steps away and bumps into someone. “I was trying to get away from that conversation,” he explains."

Or didn't want to get caught recording it.

"“When she turned around, the second individual shouted ‘you're BLM, you're BLM,’ at her,” FBI Special Agent Katherine Armstrong wrote in the affidavit.

“That person further stated to [the BLM employee] that they know what car she drives and would follow her home. He also stated he was going to burn [her] house down.”"

So the charges ARE related to the ousting of the agent.

The article refers to the shooting as an "altercation." Not a traffic stop.

I was hearing that the cars were shot at en route to the meeting.

They claim that the protesters were ready to take the fight to the town....never heard that from any of them at all.

Also it says that the arrest warrants were not created till that afternoon.
Which means that the warrants were obviously created between them leaving the compound for the meeting, and the time of the "altercation."
This seems to back up MW's idea that the sheriff entrapped them.
The group had been monitoring the public releases for arrest warrants, and would have never left the compound for the meeting if the warrant was created before they left. Which may mean that the sheriff coordinated the release of the warrant with their time of departure.

If you watched the presser, you saw how emotional the sheriff was.
Perhaps he really was being the good guy, until the feds convinced him to betray the patriots. If so, they probably promised him it would go well. It didn't, hence his emotions at the presser.

So anyways take what you will from the article. It was just interesting to me.
 Quoting: Hamboner


Thank you Ham...I rest my case.
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There are a couple of sheriffs here, don't get it twisted. Ward is the sheriff that betrayed them, you could see it hitting him at the press conference. He knows he led Finicum to his murder. The other sheriff that agents are trying to discredit is Palmer, if the Bundys hooked up with Palmer, this whole thing could have turned out very differently, with indictments of judge nasty, and other blm stooges... maybe all the way up to the clinton foundation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12830565


Thanks for clearing that up. It can get confusing.
Edit: So they were on the way to meet with Palmer, correct?
Ward was the local sheriff?
 Quoting: Hamboner


Yes, that is correct. Palmer spoke out publicly supporting the Bundys, soon after that, Finicum was dead on the way to meet with Palmer.
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Thank you Ham...I rest my case.
 Quoting: toprance1


I also found it weird that when the initial rounds of mugshots were shown, he was the only one without an actual mugshot....

Edit: I was mistaken.
[link to www.nbcnews.com]

Wow never mind that is someone else.

"One employee with the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, a prime target of the protesters, said Ritzheimer, an anti-Muslim activist who led an armed protest at a mosque last May, and another man accosted her in a grocery store for wearing a BLM shirt."
From LA-Times Article.
This is the one whose mugshot was left out...wonder why, maybe he was another G-man in charge of inciting the group into breaking actual laws.

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Thank you Ham...I rest my case.
 Quoting: toprance1


I also found it weird that when the initial rounds of mugshots were shown, he was the only one without an actual mugshot....

Edit: I was mistaken.
[link to www.nbcnews.com]

Wow never mind that is someone else.
 Quoting: Hamboner


Here is an unauthorized biography which talks about his immediate release with $0 bail following a gun charge. It's at the end of the video. He has left a great deal of damage in his wake which now includes the death of a patriot.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Thank you Ham...I rest my case.
 Quoting: toprance1


I also found it weird that when the initial rounds of mugshots were shown, he was the only one without an actual mugshot....

Edit: I was mistaken.
[link to www.nbcnews.com]

Wow never mind that is someone else.
 Quoting: Hamboner


Here is an unauthorized biography which talks about his immediate release with $0 bail following a gun charge. It's at the end of the video. He has left a great deal of damage in his wake which now includes the death of a patriot.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: toprance1


Watching now.
Also I remember the lady running the Patriot hotline the other night, Barbie, talking about how awful he had treated her and many other Militia members.
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Take a deep breath. WWIII is coming soon (months) and then life will really change.

Seek Jesus, the only refuge.

Peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71150646


Yes. Justice and judgment comes. "Peace I leave you, peace I give you, not as the world gives it." The world is passing, but the Word of God is eternal.

MW, the devil knows his time is short, so he is throwing every evil thing at us at this last hour before the reign of peace comes, and satan and his cohorts are bound for a thousand years. I so want to live to see it come to pass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47280418


I am ready for the Lord to take me home now. I am just plain tired of all of this.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


wtf Tuffen up for Gods sake get a grip the battle doesnt make warriors weak the battle strengthens them Hell it hasn't even really started yet Good God!
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Re: Is Sheriff Glenn Palmer guilty of conspiracy to commit murder? First post.
Since becoming so involved with my research on the Bundy standoff at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, I, of course, was in shock yesterday to find Lavoy Finicum deceased.

Something has changed inside of me, and I will never be the same again. I will act differently, and I will speak differently. I am ill at ease now, and I will never sleep well again.

:jc1122:

If Sheriff Glenn Palmer came to see the Militia to speak about being a Constitutional Sheriff conveying these things to the group:

1. He felt the FBI should leave.
2. He felt the Hammonds should be released.

Now, I have proof on one of my threads that this happened.

Now, he gained the trust of the group.

Then he invites them to Grant County to speak of a group of 100, which they gladly did unarmed.

Then the group was ambushed by the same sheriff who had lured them there, the sheriff who they trust.

Is that not conspiracy to commit murder??????





Thread: Good news at last from the Malheur Wildlife Refuge standoff. Sheriff Palmer of Grant County advised the Hammonds be released.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


It has to be determined as murder first before you accuse anyone else, however, it appears to be self defense:

[link to www.rawstory.com]

[link to www.abc17news.com]
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Thank you Ham...I rest my case.
 Quoting: toprance1


I also found it weird that when the initial rounds of mugshots were shown, he was the only one without an actual mugshot....

Edit: I was mistaken.
[link to www.nbcnews.com]

Wow never mind that is someone else.
 Quoting: Hamboner


Here is an unauthorized biography which talks about his immediate release with $0 bail following a gun charge. It's at the end of the video. He has left a great deal of damage in his wake which now includes the death of a patriot.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: toprance1


Watching now.
Also I remember the lady running the Patriot hotline the other night, Barbie, talking about how awful he had treated her and many other Militia members.
 Quoting: Hamboner


Wow, Barbie mentioned the trucker movement too.
From this narrative, it seems like he was a total sh*thead who was in it for himself, and later maybe recruited as an "insider."
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There are a bunch of things wrong with this entire scenario, but you shouldn't let it affect you so much.

Ultimately, these folks were using federal land (not THEIR LAND) but federally owned land to graze cattle on. Now, you can argue that this land is owned by WE THE PEOPLE, but it's a fact that the land was owned and managed by the government and they were making a living from it. Sometimes it's better to parlay and plan for a legal battle rather than play cowboys and indians with the feds.
 Quoting: rolltiderv2


Who says it is fed land? The fed? They do not have the right to own land. The blm only has the right to manage PUBLIC land, owned by we the people.
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Re: Is Sheriff Glenn Palmer guilty of conspiracy to commit murder? First post.
first of all everyone knew there was a meeting there ,so why would you want to pin this on Palmer ?

and second if you knew anything you would have known that there was a meeting with the FBI scheduled for right after the community meeting .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71338885


We are not pinning it on him, we are discussing why, after agreeing to meet, was he at the roadblock?
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Re: Is Sheriff Glenn Palmer guilty of conspiracy to commit murder? First post.
This sheriff seemed truly upset when they had the news brief. I hope the hell he never ever sleeps good again. You see Sheriffs of a county are the top dog. They can tell the FBI the IRS the EPA .. whoever to leave HIS county, and they would have to its the law! A Wyoming Sheriff took a similar case to the Supreme Court and one just that ruling if he felt there was a threat or a wrong he has the power to stop everything. This sheriff chose to side with the FEDS he like most are totally ignorant of that law and here he is a officer of the law.

The OSP and the FEDs whoever were doing the shooting clearly did not want anyone in either of the two cars to survive. This is a crime they were judge and jury.. the people were NOT militia the media has basically helped the feds out portraying these people for something they were not.

The governor of OREGON ordered the police to bring this to a close, she needs to be held accountable being a far left wing twit ranchers and their concerns are far removed from the city people life styles they simply do NOT understand nor care.