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Is Sheriff Glenn Palmer guilty of conspiracy to commit murder? First post.

 
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when where is the funeral?
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I don't know, but LaVoy was from Arizona.
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I am puzzled by repeated statements attributed to Lavoy about not being taken alive. This guy had 11 kids and more grandkids then that. It is hard to believe that he would think like that.
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He made that statement! It was just a statement. Now maybe he did feel this way but no one will ever know until the video is shown!

I suspect that he did challenge the cops/fbi thinking that they wouldn't shoot someone with their hands up on their head!

But the same old scenario got played again, the cops/fbi will yell that they felt threatened! Blah, Blah, Blah!
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The authorities need to have some damn transparency here and ASAP!
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If Sheriff Glenn Palmer came to see the Militia to speak about being a Constitutional Sheriff conveying these things to the group:

1. He felt the FBI should leave.
2. He felt the Hammonds should be released.

Now, I have proof on one of my threads that this happened.

Now, he gained the trust of the group.

Then he invites them to Grant County to speak of a group of 100, which they gladly did unarmed.

Then the group was ambushed by the same sheriff who had lured them there, the sheriff who they trust.

Is that not conspiracy to commit murder??????


I see it more as "entrapment" ... the Bundys BELIEVED that the Sheriff was going to DEFEND them - these were not the first or only negoations that they had with Ward ... they were in Burns, TWO MONTH before the "stand off" even began, and they were working through the Sheriff, to defend the Hammonds . They believed that he would STAND UP and keep his oath - but when the FBI moved in - he was overwhelmed - and psy-ops-ed into believing that they had more authority than he did ... that he needed their "help" - which what was what threw the communitiy of Burns into PANIC - not bundy at the refuge - that was just their excuse for being there

please don't forget, that the Gov has been looking for an opportunity to "get even" with the bundys - for humiliating them in Nev two years ago - they've been watching his every move ... which is why I believe it is ENTRAPMENT

I am trying to look at this turn of events with optimism - they WILL have their day in court ... I hope

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If Sheriff Glenn Palmer came to see the Militia to speak about being a Constitutional Sheriff conveying these things to the group:

1. He felt the FBI should leave.
2. He felt the Hammonds should be released.

Now, I have proof on one of my threads that this happened.

Now, he gained the trust of the group.

Then he invites them to Grant County to speak of a group of 100, which they gladly did unarmed.

Then the group was ambushed by the same sheriff who had lured them there, the sheriff who they trust.

Is that not conspiracy to commit murder??????


I see it more as "entrapment" ... the Bundys BELIEVED that the Sheriff was going to DEFEND them - these were not the first or only negoations that they had with Palmer ... they were in Burns, TWO MONTH before the "stand off" even began, and they were working through the Sheriff, to defend the Hammonds . They believed that he would STAND UP and keep his oath - but when the FBI moved in - he was overwhelmed - and psy-ops-ed into believing that they had more authority than he did ... that he needed their "help" - which what was what threw the communitiy of Burns into PANIC - not bundy at the refuge - that was just their excuse for being there

please don't forget, that the Gov has been looking for an opportunity to "get even" with the bundys - for humiliating them in Nev two years ago - they've been watching his every move ... which is why I believe it is ENTRAPMENT

I am trying to look at this turn of events with optimism - they WILL have their day in court ... I hope
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if you were following the sporatic "live-coverage" that Pete released, the community was waking up to how they were being used ... the Bundy's WERE negotiating with the Sheriff - privately - again and even knowing that Pete was planning a "protest" Palmer invited him to that town meeting - that went on, while LaVoy was being murdered ...in a place where there is no cell phone service ...

it's so sick and obviously well planned ... and being "Federal" it can be closed to the public -

forgive yourself, oath keeper, and support the Bundy legal fund now ... you don't even have to get out of your chair, to contribute to this cause ... because you know, that if they don't have the finest Constitutional Lawyers in our Nation, the Constitution will be imprisoned - for life

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Since becoming so involved with my research on the Bundy standoff at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, I, of course, was in shock yesterday to find Lavoy Finicum deceased.

Something has changed inside of me, and I will never be the same again. I will act differently, and I will speak differently. I am ill at ease now, and I will never sleep well again.

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If Sheriff Glenn Palmer came to see the Militia to speak about being a Constitutional Sheriff conveying these things to the group:

1. He felt the FBI should leave.
2. He felt the Hammonds should be released.

Now, I have proof on one of my threads that this happened.

Now, he gained the trust of the group.

Then he invites them to Grant County to speak of a group of 100, which they gladly did unarmed.

Then the group was ambushed by the same sheriff who had lured them there, the sheriff who they trust.

Is that not conspiracy to commit murder??????





Thread: Good news at last from the Malheur Wildlife Refuge standoff. Sheriff Palmer of Grant County advised the Hammonds be released.
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actually it isnt. tehnically is called ENTRAPMENT. Law enforcement may not have been in the loop as to what the FBI was planning in conjunction with the national guard. government often does not feel the need to explain itself especially in situations like this.
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So, a dot connected for me this morning. We know Palmer was "negotiating" trying to look like the good guy. Set up the meeting. Then ghe feds were anle to set up their ambush, and Palmer was THERE right? What if, Lavoy, as he was yelling to the feds that he was on his way to meet with Palmer, he SAW Palmer, and that is why he took off. Ladies and gents, i believe this is EXACTLY what happened, and why he fled. He knew it was a set up at that moment.
There is no other explaination as to ehy Lavoy, knowing the kind of man he was, would just flee.. He was trying to escape what he knew as going to be his demise...
"The more you know, the crazier you look"
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when where is the funeral?
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I don't know, but LaVoy was from Arizona.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


I am puzzled by repeated statements attributed to Lavoy about not being taken alive. This guy had 11 kids and more grandkids then that. It is hard to believe that he would think like that.
 Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent


I know, you hear "well, he got what he wanted". Who would want to be shot down like some vermin and never see their wife and kids again? Who, tell me?? If he was anything like the Bundy's or the Hammond's, with a ranch, he's probably been going through the same thing they did with the Feds trying to run him off his property for years, all legal avenues ignored. The same thing is happening everywhere. Again, there is a pattern of behavior here.

All I ask is that people try and seek the truth before calling for another human being to be executed. They actually have "your back" whether you know it or not because next time it could be you, your wife, brother, sister, son, daughter, mother, dad... Be careful because you wouldn't want that. It's too late for Lavoy. It's too late for all the kids he did good by and his wife. He might be here still had the media not been set to work everyone up into a lather.
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If Sheriff Glenn Palmer came to see the Militia to speak about being a Constitutional Sheriff conveying these things to the group:

1. He felt the FBI should leave.
2. He felt the Hammonds should be released.

Now, I have proof on one of my threads that this happened.

Now, he gained the trust of the group.

Then he invites them to Grant County to speak of a group of 100, which they gladly did unarmed.

Then the group was ambushed by the same sheriff who had lured them there, the sheriff who they trust.

Is that not conspiracy to commit murder??????


I see it more as "entrapment" ... the Bundys BELIEVED that the Sheriff was going to DEFEND them - these were not the first or only negoations that they had with Ward ... they were in Burns, TWO MONTH before the "stand off" even began, and they were working through the Sheriff, to defend the Hammonds . They believed that he would STAND UP and keep his oath - but when the FBI moved in - he was overwhelmed - and psy-ops-ed into believing that they had more authority than he did ... that he needed their "help" - which what was what threw the communitiy of Burns into PANIC - not bundy at the refuge - that was just their excuse for being there

please don't forget, that the Gov has been looking for an opportunity to "get even" with the bundys - for humiliating them in Nev two years ago - they've been watching his every move ... which is why I believe it is ENTRAPMENT

I am trying to look at this turn of events with optimism - they WILL have their day in court ... I hope
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The Constitution IS - the Supreme Law of the Land. It affords, the Bundys and their associates, the status of Innocent, until proven guilty. They have already killed one innocent man.

looks to me, like the Tree of Liberty - has been nourished by the blood of an innocent - patriot

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Please tell me you'll have one good nights rest...
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when where is the funeral?
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I don't know, but LaVoy was from Arizona.
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


I am puzzled by repeated statements attributed to Lavoy about not being taken alive. This guy had 11 kids and more grandkids then that. It is hard to believe that he would think like that.
 Quoting: Carnac The Magnificent


I know, you hear "well, he got what he wanted". Who would want to be shot down like some vermin and never see their wife and kids again? Who, tell me?? If he was anything like the Bundy's or the Hammond's, with a ranch, he's probably been going through the same thing they did with the Feds trying to run him off his property for years, all legal avenues ignored. The same thing is happening everywhere. Again, there is a pattern of behavior here.

All I ask is that people try and seek the truth before calling for another human being to be executed. They actually have "your back" whether you know it or not because next time it could be you, your wife, brother, sister, son, daughter, mother, dad... Be careful because you wouldn't want that. It's too late for Lavoy. It's too late for all the kids he did good by and his wife. He might be here still had the media not been set to work everyone up into a lather.
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search You-tube, for LaVoy's videos - yes he was being targeted by the BLM - and standing up - on his own, to keep from being run off - and the family home lost to its family forever ... that's why they do it - for the children - for the future of America
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So, a dot connected for me this morning. We know Palmer was "negotiating" trying to look like the good guy. Set up the meeting. Then ghe feds were anle to set up their ambush, and Palmer was THERE right? What if, Lavoy, as he was yelling to the feds that he was on his way to meet with Palmer, he SAW Palmer, and that is why he took off. Ladies and gents, i believe this is EXACTLY what happened, and why he fled. He knew it was a set up at that moment.
There is no other explaination as to ehy Lavoy, knowing the kind of man he was, would just flee.. He was trying to escape what he knew as going to be his demise...
 Quoting: Esoterica


I know, I thought the same thing yesterday. What if the person he was walking toward, the one he wanted to talk to, Sheriff Palmer? He knew he'd been had. Besides the first ambush, having people shot at just for following orders, racing off believing he and the carload was next, having the car riddled with bullet holes, driving into a snow bank, then realizing Sheriff Palmer was in on it all along, just wanted to talk man to man about his giving his 'word'. By God, I can't imagine how upset he was, the betrayal, the insane adrenaline rush. I can understand why he might say "just shoot me and get it over with" because if that's the way it's going to be, he might momentarily feel he'd be better off that way. After all, if all he has to look forward to is being treated worse than any animal, what is there to live for? What would anyone have to live for?
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"search You-tube, for LaVoy's videos - yes he was being targeted by the BLM - and standing up - on his own, to keep from being run off - and the family home lost to its family forever ... that's why they do it - for the children - for the future of America"


That's right, I think I'd heard that during the Nevada standoff.

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So, a dot connected for me this morning. We know Palmer was "negotiating" trying to look like the good guy. Set up the meeting. Then ghe feds were anle to set up their ambush, and Palmer was THERE right? What if, Lavoy, as he was yelling to the feds that he was on his way to meet with Palmer, he SAW Palmer, and that is why he took off. Ladies and gents, i believe this is EXACTLY what happened, and why he fled. He knew it was a set up at that moment.
There is no other explaination as to ehy Lavoy, knowing the kind of man he was, would just flee.. He was trying to escape what he knew as going to be his demise...
 Quoting: Esoterica


I think it is a stretch too far to try and take Palmer down with this incident. The feds killed one patriot, isn't that good enough for them? Now they have to try to discredit Palmer too? Just be happy with your prize, and go home.

You can spoof the next sheriff's election and get rid of him then... or maybe drop some coke on him, you know, the way you normally get rid of cogs.

Now Ward, on the other hand, the feds played him like a fiddle. He knew what was happening, he believed the feds when they were telling him, "we'll just do a traffic stop out in the middle of nowhere, everything will be fine." Then it turns out they had a hit team out there, and decapitated the movement.

You could tell Ward had the weight of Finicum's execution hanging heavy on him, but he was trying, for his own sake, to deflect responsibility, claiming it was an accident, and it shouldn't have happened. Haha, it shouldn't have, Dave, but you helped them murder Finicum, a greater man than you.
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 Quoting: smackdog

search You-tube, for LaVoy's videos - yes he was being targeted by the BLM - and standing up - on his own, to keep from being run off - and the family home lost to its family forever ... that's why they do it - for the children - for the future of America


That's right, I think I'd heard that during the Nevada standoff.


To these men, the Constitution is what allows them to "persue happiness" ... it is the "dream" all Americans have in common... it is why we go to work, so that we can be Independent ... unfortunately these farmer/ranchers, were depenent upon lands owned by the state - that the Constitution tells them - belongs to the citizens of that State.

They were willing to pay to use these PUBLIC LANDS, and to improve them, at their own expense - until the BLM got unreasonable, and started grabbing PRIVATE PROPERTY, for themselves - and not the State - the people who were forced to sell their land to the BLM - were not selling it to the Federal Government - but the Federal government was protecting the BLM's interest - not the STATE - or the American citizen who was being bullied by a foreign entity.

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From the Broken Man radio show titled: "Pete Santilli might get patriots killed" aired 22Oct2013. If anyone is suspicious of a conspiracy to commit murder, I suggest you give this a listen before blaming Palmer.

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Word is the feds are trying to take down Palmer too. A constitutional sheriff who supported and tried to help the Bundys.

The fed's hubris never ends. Their appetite is never satisfied.
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What did you people EXPECT?

They carried AR Riffles like a deer on their back..... to show their power...

You already knew it would not end well??

Replay the WORDS that man spoke... he would die before going to jail

IT was NOT a peaceful protest at all.. their words were always VIOLENT....

What did you expect?

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Their word were {gasp} violent.

:verbalvomit:

You think that on the basis of that they should send the Feds and the LEOs in to shoot this place up?

Look around at all the {gasp} violent language here.

May be you should leave.

If the Feds come to clean it up you might get caught in the crossfire.
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OH crap! Mountain Woman why can't these rats let us have a hero? I thought Palmer was a Constitutional Sheriff! He seemed to have that reputation. Poop ... I wonder, yet again, what is the truth and will we ever know it. This is a deep rabbit hole and I wonder what twisted mind (s) set around and dream all this stuff up. What a script to follow .. more twists and turns than a Clancy novel. It makes my brain automatically shut off.
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first of all everyone knew there was a meeting there ,so why would you want to pin this on Palmer ?

and second if you knew anything you would have known that there was a meeting with the FBI scheduled for right after the community meeting .
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What did you people EXPECT?

They carried AR Riffles like a deer on their back..... to show their power...

You already knew it would not end well??

Replay the WORDS that man spoke... he would die before going to jail

IT was NOT a peaceful protest at all.. their words were always VIOLENT....

What did you expect?

 Quoting: MoonEyes888

After Sheriff Glenn Palmer announced that he thought they should allow the Hammonds to be free and the FBI GO HOME, I really felt it would happen.

But in the end Palmer is the one who called them to the meeting in Harney County. They never made it...LaVoy Finicum died.
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The feds had to know the time and place to do the ambush. However, in defense of anyone who needs defending, the feds were hearing every word of all phones, texts, E mails,..everything ANYONE said or did in the entire area. They could have ease-dropped on anyone.
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first of all everyone knew there was a meeting there ,so why would you want to pin this on Palmer ?

and second if you knew anything you would have known that there was a meeting with the FBI scheduled for right after the community meeting .
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Federal agents are just getting greedy, trying to take out two birds with one stone. They murdered Finicum, and now they're trying to use that murder to discredit another patriot, a patriot with Constitutional authority, and arguably, a greater threat.

The coordination of this smear campaign is obvious. It is disrespectful enough for you to lie to us, but to use these idiotic lies, it also insults our intelligence.
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If we keep going through this in such detail, we will eventually come up with the truth. This situation is co convoluted it will take time and the input of all these great posters. If anyone can untangle this web of deceit it will be all these GLP posters. Keep up the good work. Don't let this NWO win this one.
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From the Broken Man radio show titled: "Pete Santilli might get patriots killed" aired 22Oct2013. If anyone is suspicious of a conspiracy to commit murder, I suggest you give this a listen before blaming Palmer.

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Here is a shorter version of (9 mins). I think the mistake made was allowing Santilli to infiltrate.

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 Quoting: ^^MW^^


OH crap! Mountain Woman why can't these rats let us have a hero? I thought Palmer was a Constitutional Sheriff! He seemed to have that reputation. Poop ... I wonder, yet again, what is the truth and will we ever know it. This is a deep rabbit hole and I wonder what twisted mind (s) set around and dream all this stuff up. What a script to follow .. more twists and turns than a Clancy novel. It makes my brain automatically shut off.
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If the Bundy group had gathered their resolve with Sheriff Palmer the combining may have really crippled the BLM in that area. The local crooked political group was already being exposed and it was a great start to finding out the dirt on a bundle of high placed people. If Sheriff Palmer may have been worried for the safety of the Patriots or was suspicious of a plot to stop the Bundys, in what ever manner, he may have changed the date to keep them safer. It isn't a stretch to think the feds covered all methods of communication. They could know of the change, or someone (plant) could have relayed the message. If they went under the protection of Palmer the feds would have to be much more respectful. The feds had to do something before the cowboys were more out of their grasp.
Just a possibility, my thoughts.
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From the Broken Man radio show titled: "Pete Santilli might get patriots killed" aired 22Oct2013. If anyone is suspicious of a conspiracy to commit murder, I suggest you give this a listen before blaming Palmer.

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 Quoting: toprance1


Here is a shorter version of (9 mins). I think the mistake made was allowing Santilli to infiltrate.

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would you please quit being sucha tool - go watch Petes "shows" - where HE exposes corrupt gov officials - with documented evidence ... pete made himself a target - to protect whistle-blowers - at his own expense and great inconvience for him and Deb, and their dogs ... you can't pay people enough to do what they do, you can't buy love

you need to forgive yourself, for being played, and to contribute some money to his bail bond
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[link to www.latimes.com]

So this story seems to trickle out a little truth.

"A significant amount of the FBI’s information used to charge Ammon Bundy came from an activist named Pete Santilli, who was living inside the refuge and broadcasting live his conversations with fellow activists."

A lot of folks say he was a spook to begin with.

"At one point in a video, Santilli’s cameraman is recording Bundy speaking to another activist when the cameraman seems to realize he shouldn’t be broadcasting it. The cameraman steps away and bumps into someone. “I was trying to get away from that conversation,” he explains."

Or didn't want to get caught recording it.

"“When she turned around, the second individual shouted ‘you're BLM, you're BLM,’ at her,” FBI Special Agent Katherine Armstrong wrote in the affidavit.

“That person further stated to [the BLM employee] that they know what car she drives and would follow her home. He also stated he was going to burn [her] house down.”"

So the charges ARE related to the ousting of the agent.

The article refers to the shooting as an "altercation." Not a traffic stop.

I was hearing that the cars were shot at en route to the meeting.

They claim that the protesters were ready to take the fight to the town....never heard that from any of them at all.

Also it says that the arrest warrants were not created till that afternoon.
Which means that the warrants were obviously created between them leaving the compound for the meeting, and the time of the "altercation."
This seems to back up MW's idea that the sheriff entrapped them.
The group had been monitoring the public releases for arrest warrants, and would have never left the compound for the meeting if the warrant was created before they left. Which may mean that the sheriff coordinated the release of the warrant with their time of departure.

If you watched the presser, you saw how emotional the sheriff was.
Perhaps he really was being the good guy, until the feds convinced him to betray the patriots. If so, they probably promised him it would go well. It didn't, hence his emotions at the presser.

So anyways take what you will from the article. It was just interesting to me.
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Take a deep breath. WWIII is coming soon (months) and then life will really change.

Seek Jesus, the only refuge.

Peace.
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Yes. Justice and judgment comes. "Peace I leave you, peace I give you, not as the world gives it." The world is passing, but the Word of God is eternal.

MW, the devil knows his time is short, so he is throwing every evil thing at us at this last hour before the reign of peace comes, and satan and his cohorts are bound for a thousand years. I so want to live to see it come to pass.
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I am ready for the Lord to take me home now. I am just plain tired of all of this.
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+1
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[link to www.latimes.com]

So this story seems to trickle out a little truth.

"A significant amount of the FBI’s information used to charge Ammon Bundy came from an activist named Pete Santilli, who was living inside the refuge and broadcasting live his conversations with fellow activists."

A lot of folks say he was a spook to begin with.

"At one point in a video, Santilli’s cameraman is recording Bundy speaking to another activist when the cameraman seems to realize he shouldn’t be broadcasting it. The cameraman steps away and bumps into someone. “I was trying to get away from that conversation,” he explains."

Or didn't want to get caught recording it.

"“When she turned around, the second individual shouted ‘you're BLM, you're BLM,’ at her,” FBI Special Agent Katherine Armstrong wrote in the affidavit.

“That person further stated to [the BLM employee] that they know what car she drives and would follow her home. He also stated he was going to burn [her] house down.”"

So the charges ARE related to the ousting of the agent.

The article refers to the shooting as an "altercation." Not a traffic stop.

I was hearing that the cars were shot at en route to the meeting.

They claim that the protesters were ready to take the fight to the town....never heard that from any of them at all.

Also it says that the arrest warrants were not created till that afternoon.
Which means that the warrants were obviously created between them leaving the compound for the meeting, and the time of the "altercation."
This seems to back up MW's idea that the sheriff entrapped them.
The group had been monitoring the public releases for arrest warrants, and would have never left the compound for the meeting if the warrant was created before they left. Which may mean that the sheriff coordinated the release of the warrant with their time of departure.

If you watched the presser, you saw how emotional the sheriff was.
Perhaps he really was being the good guy, until the feds convinced him to betray the patriots. If so, they probably promised him it would go well. It didn't, hence his emotions at the presser.

So anyways take what you will from the article. It was just interesting to me.
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There are a couple of sheriffs here, don't get it twisted. Ward is the sheriff that betrayed them, you could see it hitting him at the press conference. He knows he led Finicum to his murder. The other sheriff that agents are trying to discredit is Palmer, if the Bundys hooked up with Palmer, this whole thing could have turned out very differently, with indictments of judge nasty, and other blm stooges... maybe all the way up to the clinton foundation.
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There are a couple of sheriffs here, don't get it twisted. Ward is the sheriff that betrayed them, you could see it hitting him at the press conference. He knows he led Finicum to his murder. The other sheriff that agents are trying to discredit is Palmer, if the Bundys hooked up with Palmer, this whole thing could have turned out very differently, with indictments of judge nasty, and other blm stooges... maybe all the way up to the clinton foundation.
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Thanks for clearing that up. It can get confusing.
Edit: So they were on the way to meet with Palmer, correct?
Ward was the local sheriff?

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I'm curious if many people will compare this to Waco, or the Freeman incident.
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[link to www.oregonlive.com]

Ammon Bundy wants the people remaining at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge to go home and "please stand down," his attorney said Wednesday on the steps of the federal courthouse in downtown Portland.

It is not as bad as Waco, but I guess that is easy for me to say as I am not LaVoy Finicum nor his family.

So many are leaving the compound now...thank God, but what will happen to those who do not leave?
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Hopefully it's been stated by now but information has come out that Amon Bundy did NOT make that statement & that the "lawyer" is an impostor.
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