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Message Subject Paradox found: a fully supernatural phenomenon even atheists and skeptics believe exists even though there is zero objective evidence
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Nice post... It is the greatest paradox, greatest mystery, and the one phenomenon which I believes holds the keys to everything else.

Does consciousness arise from matter..? Or does matter arise from consciousness...? I personally believe the latter - that consciousness is the source of being, and that everything we see and experience derives from it.

If there was no consciousness, would matter matter...?
 Quoting: Quantum_Kev


Oh, I'm with you, there, QK. I believe consciousness in primary, not an emergent. I saw some physicist talking about it in a vid last night and he was kicking against the emergent property bit. He said it's a way of saying we have no idea what's going on here.

It's quite fascinating to see cutting edge science wrap around and cross into the territory of the ancient sages. It's so refreshing to hear physicists and other scientists openly talking about overlaps with advaita and buddhist experience since that sort of thing used to be anathema. Slowly, the tide is turning and the materialistic model is being dismantled and expanded.

Heh. Would matter matter? That reminds me of a quote from another quantum physicist where he said whatever matter is, it isn't made of matter. With all the stuff going on in quantum and the need for consciousness to collapse the probability wave, and all the rest, it's an exciting time.
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