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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71359158 Australia 01/31/2016 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus in Luke 21 states there will in The Last Days be "Signs in the Heavens." Now, a sign is by definition specifically formulated and displayed to be easily seen and understood by those to whom it is shown. But, there have never been any such easily seen and clearly understood "Signs in the Heavens" which relate to the Last Days being spoken about by Jesus. There are none today being seen, even as lots of people get concerned and sweatty about the pitiful state of The World. Even as Christians keep babbling about how "Jesus Is Surely Coming Soon! Just Look Around You!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65584322 Peter in Acts 2 quoted Prophet Joel by saying, "This is that" prophesied by Joel, the "Wonders in the Heavens." Yet on the day Peter said that, and at no other time during the next 2000 years, have any such "Wonders in the Heavens" been irrefutably tied to Joel's prophesy. On that day, and not even within modern astronomy, were any "Wonders in the Heavens" seen to be part of that Pentecostal Work of The Holy Spirit. No "Signs in the Heavens" have occurred. Did somebody miss them, or did somebody make a mistake about them occurring, even as Peter said, "This is that?" No Christian ever has a valid answer. They just try to use generalities to obliviate these facts. Lol. When jesus was born only three people on earth knew what that star meant. No one else even noticed it. So maybe the signs are only there for those who are looking for them. The three wise men spent their lives looking for signs. They knew exactly what to look for. They found it. No one else noticed or cared. So dont be too surprised if very few people notice or care about the signs of his second visit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69935032 United States 01/31/2016 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Peter rightly gave the signs of the sixth seal as the Holy Spirit had relayed them to the prophet Joel. When the sixth seal comes the time of the supernatural will begin again on earth but it will be too late for you when you see these signs. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 65584322 United States 01/31/2016 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus in Luke 21 states there will in The Last Days be "Signs in the Heavens." Now, a sign is by definition specifically formulated and displayed to be easily seen and understood by those to whom it is shown. But, there have never been any such easily seen and clearly understood "Signs in the Heavens" which relate to the Last Days being spoken about by Jesus. There are none today being seen, even as lots of people get concerned and sweatty about the pitiful state of The World. Even as Christians keep babbling about how "Jesus Is Surely Coming Soon! Just Look Around You!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65584322 Peter in Acts 2 quoted Prophet Joel by saying, "This is that" prophesied by Joel, the "Wonders in the Heavens." Yet on the day Peter said that, and at no other time during the next 2000 years, have any such "Wonders in the Heavens" been irrefutably tied to Joel's prophesy. On that day, and not even within modern astronomy, were any "Wonders in the Heavens" seen to be part of that Pentecostal Work of The Holy Spirit. No "Signs in the Heavens" have occurred. Did somebody miss them, or did somebody make a mistake about them occurring, even as Peter said, "This is that?" No Christian ever has a valid answer. They just try to use generalities to obliviate these facts. Lol. When jesus was born only three people on earth knew what that star meant. No one else even noticed it. So maybe the signs are only there for those who are looking for them. The three wise men spent their lives looking for signs. They knew exactly what to look for. They found it. No one else noticed or cared. So dont be too surprised if very few people notice or care about the signs of his second visit. The Bible neither states there were "Three Wise Men," nor states only they knew of the significance of the stars announcing the birth if Christ. Have you ever thought about first checking your supposed facts? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 65584322 United States 01/31/2016 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Peter rightly gave the signs of the sixth seal as the Holy Spirit had relayed them to the prophet Joel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69935032 When the sixth seal comes the time of the supernatural will begin again on earth but it will be too late for you when you see these signs. Lol. You avoided the topic here. You must think you understand something. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71359158 Australia 02/01/2016 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus in Luke 21 states there will in The Last Days be "Signs in the Heavens." Now, a sign is by definition specifically formulated and displayed to be easily seen and understood by those to whom it is shown. But, there have never been any such easily seen and clearly understood "Signs in the Heavens" which relate to the Last Days being spoken about by Jesus. There are none today being seen, even as lots of people get concerned and sweatty about the pitiful state of The World. Even as Christians keep babbling about how "Jesus Is Surely Coming Soon! Just Look Around You!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65584322 Peter in Acts 2 quoted Prophet Joel by saying, "This is that" prophesied by Joel, the "Wonders in the Heavens." Yet on the day Peter said that, and at no other time during the next 2000 years, have any such "Wonders in the Heavens" been irrefutably tied to Joel's prophesy. On that day, and not even within modern astronomy, were any "Wonders in the Heavens" seen to be part of that Pentecostal Work of The Holy Spirit. No "Signs in the Heavens" have occurred. Did somebody miss them, or did somebody make a mistake about them occurring, even as Peter said, "This is that?" No Christian ever has a valid answer. They just try to use generalities to obliviate these facts. Lol. When jesus was born only three people on earth knew what that star meant. No one else even noticed it. So maybe the signs are only there for those who are looking for them. The three wise men spent their lives looking for signs. They knew exactly what to look for. They found it. No one else noticed or cared. So dont be too surprised if very few people notice or care about the signs of his second visit. The Bible neither states there were "Three Wise Men," nor states only they knew of the significance of the stars announcing the birth if Christ. Have you ever thought about first checking your supposed facts? Just goin by what the bible said. There must have been thousands of astronomers all over the world. And only the wise men mentioned it. How come the other astronomers of the time never mentioned in their records anything about that star? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 65584322 United States 02/01/2016 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus in Luke 21 states there will in The Last Days be "Signs in the Heavens." Now, a sign is by definition specifically formulated and displayed to be easily seen and understood by those to whom it is shown. But, there have never been any such easily seen and clearly understood "Signs in the Heavens" which relate to the Last Days being spoken about by Jesus. There are none today being seen, even as lots of people get concerned and sweatty about the pitiful state of The World. Even as Christians keep babbling about how "Jesus Is Surely Coming Soon! Just Look Around You!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65584322 Peter in Acts 2 quoted Prophet Joel by saying, "This is that" prophesied by Joel, the "Wonders in the Heavens." Yet on the day Peter said that, and at no other time during the next 2000 years, have any such "Wonders in the Heavens" been irrefutably tied to Joel's prophesy. On that day, and not even within modern astronomy, were any "Wonders in the Heavens" seen to be part of that Pentecostal Work of The Holy Spirit. No "Signs in the Heavens" have occurred. Did somebody miss them, or did somebody make a mistake about them occurring, even as Peter said, "This is that?" No Christian ever has a valid answer. They just try to use generalities to obliviate these facts. Lol. When jesus was born only three people on earth knew what that star meant. No one else even noticed it. So maybe the signs are only there for those who are looking for them. The three wise men spent their lives looking for signs. They knew exactly what to look for. They found it. No one else noticed or cared. So dont be too surprised if very few people notice or care about the signs of his second visit. The Bible neither states there were "Three Wise Men," nor states only they knew of the significance of the stars announcing the birth if Christ. Have you ever thought about first checking your supposed facts? Just goin by what the bible said. There must have been thousands of astronomers all over the world. And only the wise men mentioned it. How come the other astronomers of the time never mentioned in their records anything about that star? Nope. You said there were three wise men. You do not know that. Lol. The Wise Men were called Maji. Maji were an ancient order of powerful people known as "King Makers" who controlled the installment of Royalty all over The World. They had no equals, and no competition. Of course nobody else would have shared or superceded their highly specialized and powerful knowledge. Thanks for checking with me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70604729 United States 02/01/2016 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As for Peter and Acts I'm not understanding your question, however Luke and Matthew tell us that at the death of Jesus there was a solar eclipse, an earthquake that split the rocks and the dead rose from the graves. Since I don't understand your point I'm not sure if that has the answer in it or not. |
MarPep User ID: 54961463 United States 02/01/2016 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wonder how the idea of receiving television signals from something overhead but so far into the heavens it was not visible would be explained by 1st century folks? Signs, perhaps? Or the idea of men in capsules circling the moon--?Signs again? Or the idea of multiple space craft being sent to different planets? _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69438474 United States 02/01/2016 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wonder how the idea of receiving television signals from something overhead but so far into the heavens it was not visible would be explained by 1st century folks? Signs, perhaps? Quoting: MarPep Or the idea of men in capsules circling the moon--?Signs again? Or the idea of multiple space craft being sent to different planets? You really need to cut OP some slack. When one is so focused on doubt it is really hard to focus on reality. For instance Hubble telescope has brought many signs from the heavens to mankind. However OP's sinful nature has produced a doubt that only he like Jacob can wrestle with. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69438474 United States 02/01/2016 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes scotty is a great sign as well. Tit_1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: 2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. yes many signs |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 65584322 United States 02/01/2016 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You stop your quote of Luke 21 too soon. Verse 12 starts with "Before all this happens..." then goes on all the way to verse 25 of what will happen before signs in the heavens. I estimate we're still on verse 12. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70604729 As for Peter and Acts I'm not understanding your question, however Luke and Matthew tell us that at the death of Jesus there was a solar eclipse, an earthquake that split the rocks and the dead rose from the graves. Since I don't understand your point I'm not sure if that has the answer in it or not. How is a Solar Eclipse, an earthquake, and dead people coming from their graves a fulfillment of Joel's Prophecy? What is the clear message of those supposed "signs," if they indeed are "signs?" Tell us the clear and unequivocal message they contain. If you cannot do so, then those things signaled nothing. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 65584322 United States 02/01/2016 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wonder how the idea of receiving television signals from something overhead but so far into the heavens it was not visible would be explained by 1st century folks? Signs, perhaps? Quoting: MarPep Or the idea of men in capsules circling the moon--?Signs again? Or the idea of multiple space craft being sent to different planets? What do those "signs" say? If you do not know, then they are not signs. |
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ISpartaChrisI User ID: 71256289 Canada 02/01/2016 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Attacking Christianity while overlooking huge gaps and impossibilities in evolution. Last Edited by VW Apocalypse on 02/01/2016 12:44 AM The Rothschild Illuminati that runs the world for their god Lucifer will be exposed one day and ALL will know the Glory of God and his Kingdom with the return of Jesus Christ. Where are you going to hide? All the transhumanism, money, technology, GMO's, political control, underground bunkers, satanic rituals will NOT save you. Fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom. Truth - Myron C. Fagan - The Illuminati and the CFR 1967 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] This is lucifer's last stand, whom do you serve? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I have not known sin, but by the Law - Paul |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 65584322 United States 02/01/2016 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wonder how the idea of receiving television signals from something overhead but so far into the heavens it was not visible would be explained by 1st century folks? Signs, perhaps? Quoting: MarPep Or the idea of men in capsules circling the moon--?Signs again? Or the idea of multiple space craft being sent to different planets? You really need to cut OP some slack. When one is so focused on doubt it is really hard to focus on reality. For instance Hubble telescope has brought many signs from the heavens to mankind. However OP's sinful nature has produced a doubt that only he like Jacob can wrestle with. What was the discernable "sign" given by the Hubble Scope? What did it clearly say to everyone? Remember, if you just try to "explain" it with an off the cuff answer which is not stated as well by everyone else, then your "explanation" means nothing. Think of it like this, Probie. If you see a sign on the road saying "Stop! Bridge Out," does it have multiple meanings, or unclear meanings? Lol. Nope. It has one clear meaning. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 65584322 United States 02/01/2016 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes scotty is a great sign as well. Tit_1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: 2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. yes many signs Apparently, your mind likes to wander. This Thread is not about Jesus Christ having come in the flesh. And, it sure is not about circumcision. Lol. Do you like to chat about whatever is triggered in your busy mind ... ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70697966 Australia 02/01/2016 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When peter quited joel the first part up until verse 19 was literally fulfilled by the pouring out of the spirit which gave them the power to speak all manner of different languages to declare to them the truth of christs death and ressurection. Verse 19 on is refering specifically about the great and noteable day of the lord..which is christs 2nd coming not his first. All these things are still yet to be fulfilled which includes the signs in the heavens..signs in the earth beneath..blood and fire and vapour of smoke.....there is no contradition here whatsoever and if your still around one day u just may see it. |
MarPep User ID: 54961463 United States 02/01/2016 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wonder how the idea of receiving television signals from something overhead but so far into the heavens it was not visible would be explained by 1st century folks? Signs, perhaps? Quoting: MarPep Or the idea of men in capsules circling the moon--?Signs again? Or the idea of multiple space craft being sent to different planets? What do those "signs" say? If you do not know, then they are not signs. Incorrect. Miraculous happenings that the seers of visions have seen, but could not explain, are often called "signs"--because they simply have no other way/words to explain what they have seen. Your argument holds not water. _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69299695 United States 02/01/2016 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus in Luke 21 states there will in The Last Days be "Signs in the Heavens." Now, a sign is by definition specifically formulated and displayed to be easily seen and understood by those to whom it is shown. But, there have never been any such easily seen and clearly understood "Signs in the Heavens" which relate to the Last Days being spoken about by Jesus. There are none today being seen, even as lots of people get concerned and sweatty about the pitiful state of The World. Even as Christians keep babbling about how "Jesus Is Surely Coming Soon! Just Look Around You!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65584322 Peter in Acts 2 quoted Prophet Joel by saying, "This is that" prophesied by Joel, the "Wonders in the Heavens." Yet on the day Peter said that, and at no other time during the next 2000 years, have any such "Wonders in the Heavens" been irrefutably tied to Joel's prophesy. On that day, and not even within modern astronomy, were any "Wonders in the Heavens" seen to be part of that Pentecostal Work of The Holy Spirit. No "Signs in the Heavens" have occurred. Did somebody miss them, or did somebody make a mistake about them occurring, even as Peter said, "This is that?" No Christian ever has a valid answer. They just try to use generalities to obliviate these facts. Lol. If your native language is English, and you see a sign in Russian, can you accurately describe it to me if you have no knowledge of the Russian language? </end stupid thread> |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70697966 Australia 02/01/2016 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same with luke 21...compare to mathew 24...same thing here the things u are reading about here are still to come...you are trying to read these things that are pwrfectly easy to be understood if u study prophecy..if not u will be confused which is by design |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70922326 United States 02/01/2016 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus in Luke 21 states there will in The Last Days be "Signs in the Heavens." Now, a sign is by definition specifically formulated and displayed to be easily seen and understood by those to whom it is shown. But, there have never been any such easily seen and clearly understood "Signs in the Heavens" which relate to the Last Days being spoken about by Jesus. There are none today being seen, even as lots of people get concerned and sweatty about the pitiful state of The World. Even as Christians keep babbling about how "Jesus Is Surely Coming Soon! Just Look Around You!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65584322 Peter in Acts 2 quoted Prophet Joel by saying, "This is that" prophesied by Joel, the "Wonders in the Heavens." Yet on the day Peter said that, and at no other time during the next 2000 years, have any such "Wonders in the Heavens" been irrefutably tied to Joel's prophesy. On that day, and not even within modern astronomy, were any "Wonders in the Heavens" seen to be part of that Pentecostal Work of The Holy Spirit. No "Signs in the Heavens" have occurred. Did somebody miss them, or did somebody make a mistake about them occurring, even as Peter said, "This is that?" No Christian ever has a valid answer. They just try to use generalities to obliviate these facts. Lol. When jesus was born only three people on earth knew what that star meant. No one else even noticed it. So maybe the signs are only there for those who are looking for them. The three wise men spent their lives looking for signs. They knew exactly what to look for. They found it. No one else noticed or cared. So dont be too surprised if very few people notice or care about the signs of his second visit. It was not literally three. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70922326 United States 02/01/2016 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When peter quited joel the first part up until verse 19 was literally fulfilled by the pouring out of the spirit which gave them the power to speak all manner of different languages to declare to them the truth of christs death and ressurection. Verse 19 on is refering specifically about the great and noteable day of the lord..which is christs 2nd coming not his first. All these things are still yet to be fulfilled which includes the signs in the heavens..signs in the earth beneath..blood and fire and vapour of smoke.....there is no contradition here whatsoever and if your still around one day u just may see it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70697966 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71353162 United States 02/01/2016 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus in Luke 21 states there will in The Last Days be "Signs in the Heavens." Now, a sign is by definition specifically formulated and displayed to be easily seen and understood by those to whom it is shown. But, there have never been any such easily seen and clearly understood "Signs in the Heavens" which relate to the Last Days being spoken about by Jesus. There are none today being seen, even as lots of people get concerned and sweatty about the pitiful state of The World. Even as Christians keep babbling about how "Jesus Is Surely Coming Soon! Just Look Around You!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65584322 Peter in Acts 2 quoted Prophet Joel by saying, "This is that" prophesied by Joel, the "Wonders in the Heavens." Yet on the day Peter said that, and at no other time during the next 2000 years, have any such "Wonders in the Heavens" been irrefutably tied to Joel's prophesy. On that day, and not even within modern astronomy, were any "Wonders in the Heavens" seen to be part of that Pentecostal Work of The Holy Spirit. No "Signs in the Heavens" have occurred. Did somebody miss them, or did somebody make a mistake about them occurring, even as Peter said, "This is that?" No Christian ever has a valid answer. They just try to use generalities to obliviate these facts. Lol. I find it very interesting that non-believers and scoffers, such as yourself spend more time talking about God then most Christians do. Therefore, this is evidence that He exists. Why don't you actually read the Bible in context and it's entirety before you run off at the mouth about something you know nothing about. It makes you look like a douchebag. Here is one for you... 3 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was. ~2 Timothy 3:1 9 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57511317 United States 02/01/2016 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When everything ready for project bluebeam...and your neighborhood cell tower will "connect" to nerves responsible for your hearing......you will see and hear your "messiah"....if possible even a chosen ones will be deceived. Few will see ...what is foretold. |