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Germany's Wendelstein 7-X fusion reactor produces its first flash of hydrogen plasma (nuclear fusion)
Experimentation with Germany's newest fusion reactor is beginning to heat up, to temperatures of around 80 million degrees Celsius, to be precise. Having fired up the Wendelstein 7-X to produce helium plasma late last year, researchers have built on their early success to generate its first hydrogen plasma, an event they say begins the true scientific operation of the world's largest fusion stellarator.

After a decade of construction, the Wendelstein 7-X fusion stellarator was finally started up in December last year. The device is designed to be magnetically efficient enough to continuously contain super-hot plasma in its magnetic field for more than 30 minutes at a time. If this vision does one day become a reality, it could help to usher in an era of clean, reliable nuclear fusion power.

But it's all about baby steps for scientists working at the Max Planck Institute for Plasma Physics (IPP), which houses the experimental device. Since producing the first helium plasma on December 10 last year, the Wendelstein 7-X has generated more than 300 discharges. The main purpose of these was to clean the plasma vessel walls, which in turn makes for higher temperatures, but it also allowed for testing of scientific instruments and data recording.

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Warp drive, here we come :)

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Clean, possibly reliable, but not cheap, not possible for the public to build and probably not the simplest machine to repair(sarcasm).
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Clean, possibly reliable, but not cheap, not possible for the public to build and probably not the simplest machine to repair(sarcasm).
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We've got to start somewhere. The first cars had the same issues.
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I think humanity needs some kind of breakthrough.
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Clean, possibly reliable, but not cheap, not possible for the public to build and probably not the simplest machine to repair(sarcasm).
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We've got to start somewhere. The first cars had the same issues.
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Morning. Yep I hope this works out - and the rate at which technology's advanced in the last century it shouldn't be long. Unless we manage to bomb ourselves back into the Stone Age before then!
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I think humanity needs some kind of breakthrough.
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Actually in the last 50 Years we had done sooooooo muchas Research
that we need at least 100 Years to do the Studies!

We can be sure that "the Solution" is already there but we do not know where!

Wendelstein is a great Step forward, maybe only in Theory but we need to see it in Reality!
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Awesome!

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Found a geek free article on it:

German scientists today will set about the first steps towards what has become the Holy Grail of energy—nuclear fusion, which has the potential for unlimited amounts of clean power. There are a number of challenges to harnessing this power—researchers need to build a device that can heat atoms to temperatures of more than 100 million °C (180 million °F).

After almost nine years of construction work and more than a million assembly hours, researchers from the Max Planck Institute in Greifswald are set to do just that by heating a tiny amount of hydrogen until it becomes as hot, hopefully, as the center of the Sun.

The Wendelstein 7-x is the largest stellarator fusion device in the world—dubbed the “dark horse in fusion energy research” and costing €370 million ($404 million) to build—rivalling the standard tokamak fusion reactor that was developed by Soviet researchers. Researchers were able to carry out the first successful experiment last year, producing helium plasma. Satisfied with the initial results, researchers are setting out to work to produce the first plasma from hydrogen.

The international coalition behind a rival, multibillion-dollar ITER fusion project, which aims to show that nuclear fusion is technically feasible, recently announced it would take six years longer than planned to build their device—and require a lot more funding.

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This is pretty exciting and can change the world in a couple of years.
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For a better understanding of what the Teutons are doing:


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Thanks Japan!
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Woo hoo. The day is almost here.

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Woo hoo. The day is almost here.

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Clean, possibly reliable, but not cheap, not possible for the public to build and probably not the simplest machine to repair(sarcasm).
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We've got to start somewhere. The first cars had the same issues.
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And the last cars are total garbage. After 100 years, people still die in car crashes.
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I think humanity needs some kind of breakthrough.
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Actually in the last 50 Years we had done sooooooo muchas Research
that we need at least 100 Years to do the Studies!


We can be sure that "the Solution" is already there but we do not know where!

Wendelstein is a great Step forward, maybe only in Theory but we need to see it in Reality!
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THIS IN BOLD!!!

"I've" shown them where they already have the answers they need in their research. The problem is the way they are observing and WHO is doing the observing!!!

But "I" digress, I have bigger fish to handle at the moment...if these guys and gals won't listen up we'll all have mutated zombies to deal with!
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Face Palmer threads = Shill BS
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Nah. Fusion is ALWAYS ten years from now. It's been like that since 60s. Fusion is not clean either. Fusion releases lethal neutrons and even if they are contained, the wall materials become neutron activated (i.e. radioactive). We end up with the same radiological waste as we do with fission. Not worth it. Get rid of coal and oil and build a closed fission cycle (uranium and plutonium reactors) and we'll never run out of fission fuel.
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The international coalition behind a rival, multibillion-dollar ITER fusion project, which aims to show that nuclear fusion is technically feasible, recently announced it would take six years longer than planned to build their device—and require a lot more funding.

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Tends to happen when you build something in socialist France.
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