Female Genital Mutilation 200 Million girls | |
nikki nikita (OP) User ID: 71071950 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the count was low, now estimated 200 million girls have been subjected to Female Genital Mutilation (FMG) in Islamic countries, Sudan, Indonesia, Egypt, all of Northern Africa, Middle East. Quoting: nikki nikita I believe it is done mostly to the black Muslims to keep populations in check. of course demonizing women and physically harming them to prevent childbirth. WHO and others have tried for years to say this is not an Islamic or Sharia practice but it is. [link to www.cnn.com] Male genital mutilation performed on 90% of male babies born in the US since 1970. An abhorrent practice to show the gentiles who's in control. this is a choice by parents. FGM is mandatory in Islam. That's not true- where does it say FGM is mandatory in Islam? And MGM is NOT a parents' choice anymore than FGM is- they are both performed on non-consenting minors who are held/strapped down to have one of their healthy sexual organs permanently damaged. how do you think they practice it in Islamic countries on 90% of girls? really? in the US circumcision of boys is consensual of the parents. by LAW. and done in hospitals. you have penis issues. |
nikki nikita (OP) User ID: 71071950 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But.....Doctors here in America were performing this ritual in the mid twentieth century right here in the Good old USA. We were barbarians too 60 years ago. Africa is a third world country. They are still savages. Yes, it's crime against women! But..... Quoting: 120 Colors doctors. key word. FGM is not done by doctors. but it is mandatory under the LAW. again, Africa is a continent. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56989747 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not quite the same. male circumcision is usually done under sanitary conditions. these girls are taken and held down and cut. no anesthesia, no proper instruments. the practice is solely to scar the labia, clitoris, and prevent comfortable sex. Male circumcision is just as bad and is being done in the west on mass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71352041 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | circumscised men can orgasm and circumscised women are tortured and scarred just to make sure they can't. Quoting: jesskeira Kaadwalladeyr it's fucking not the same thing already. Cause the backwards pcs of shit think they can control the women from running around and committing adultery. They think they can control the sex drive. Not only that, but in their barbaric minds girls do not have penises. So, they cut them off. Now you understand why. true. Islam is a male dominated society. all laws are made for men. women are property. All the abrahamic societies are male dominated to one extent or another. Have you read the Bible by chance? I have the same level of compassion for both sexes. Male and female, Equal in all. |
SeaCharger User ID: 70559675 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see this just another Muslim bashing threat to get attention. Yes the Muslims are fucked up, We Already Know This! But did you know doctors here in the US were trying to implement this practice here not too long ago? I bet you didn't. Quoting: 120 Colors "A woman's greatest asset is an education." . FGM is not done by doctors in Islamic countries. it is done by fathers, who hold the child down and cut them. a huge violation of human rights. in the US there have been cases where we prosecute Muslims who do this. UK has a huge problem with this too. doctors don't have anything to do with FGM, except to see the complications in immigrants. Are you aware that in 2010 the AAP suggested that US doctors should be allowed to circumcise girls? All because they believed having it performed in a medical setting (which some are in FGM practicing countries) would be 'safer' and would alleviate the negative view of the practice. It was ONLY retracted because of public outcry. Google Dr. Diekema FGM Seattle Children's Hospital AAP. SeaCharger |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41528772 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41528772 Male genital mutilation performed on 90% of male babies born in the US since 1970. An abhorrent practice to show the gentiles who's in control. this is a choice by parents. FGM is mandatory in Islam. That's not true- where does it say FGM is mandatory in Islam? And MGM is NOT a parents' choice anymore than FGM is- they are both performed on non-consenting minors who are held/strapped down to have one of their healthy sexual organs permanently damaged. how do you think they practice it in Islamic countries on 90% of girls? really? in the US circumcision of boys is consensual of the parents. by LAW. and done in hospitals. you have penis issues. Parents doing the procedure per their Islamic religion or per the very strong peer pressure of the jewish doctors and jewish media are both against their will. Chopping a male foreskin is functionally the same as chopping off a female's clit hood. How would you like your clit to be rubbing against your clothing all day long? You think you could focus on your work? Think it's any wonder boys think about sex all day long? It's fucking uncomfortable, I assure you. Your double standards belie your lack of concern about actual justice, just those that affect your own gender. You are not a good person, you are a selfish person. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71352041 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | days of pain, infection, bleeding happen because unlike male foreskin, the clitoris is an organ. the male foreskin is a part of the penis which is an organ it is wrong to consider the foreskin separate from the penis why is it called foreskin? it's skin, mucus membrane, and not an organ. the clitoris is an organ. So is the foreskin.. [link to www.questioncircumcision.com] the Foreskin should be considered an organ since it has at least two major functions: Mechanical-rolling bearing & size stretch and primary sensory. Known functions are protective, immunological, and sexual. The foreskin contains between 10,000-20,000 highly specialized nerve endings and several feet of blood vessels. The entire intact penis may contain around 24,000 nerves, with only 4,000 or so remaining after circumcision. The head of the penis (glans) is meant to be an internal organ, like the tongue and eyeball. Without the protection of the foreskin, like the lips and eyelid, the penis builds up a layer of calloused skin (keratinization) for protection. |
nikki nikita (OP) User ID: 71071950 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not quite the same. male circumcision is usually done under sanitary conditions. these girls are taken and held down and cut. no anesthesia, no proper instruments. the practice is solely to scar the labia, clitoris, and prevent comfortable sex. Male circumcision is just as bad and is being done in the west on mass. again. circumcision isn't the issue. removal of the clitoris is removing an organ. foreskin is not an organ. Female Genital Mutilation is removal of the clitoris, or sewing of the labia so it fuses together. Last Edited by nikki nikita on 02/06/2016 04:43 PM |
SeaCharger User ID: 70559675 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41528772 Male genital mutilation performed on 90% of male babies born in the US since 1970. An abhorrent practice to show the gentiles who's in control. this is a choice by parents. FGM is mandatory in Islam. That's not true- where does it say FGM is mandatory in Islam? And MGM is NOT a parents' choice anymore than FGM is- they are both performed on non-consenting minors who are held/strapped down to have one of their healthy sexual organs permanently damaged. how do you think they practice it in Islamic countries on 90% of girls? really? in the US circumcision of boys is consensual of the parents. by LAW. and done in hospitals. you have penis issues. I have issues with people performing unnecessary surgery on non-consenting minors, yes. I support equality for males and females- neither should have their genitals forcibly altered. There is NO consent with the child. And no, not all circumcisions in the US are performed in hospitals. Some are done in clinics, some on homes, and some in churches. And there are NO laws/policies in the US regarding male circumcision- it is an outdated practice that has been 'grandfathered' in. Most boys do not receive any pain relief whatsoever. SeaCharger |
nikki nikita (OP) User ID: 71071950 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | days of pain, infection, bleeding happen because unlike male foreskin, the clitoris is an organ. the male foreskin is a part of the penis which is an organ it is wrong to consider the foreskin separate from the penis why is it called foreskin? it's skin, mucus membrane, and not an organ. the clitoris is an organ. So is the foreskin.. the Foreskin should be considered an organ since it has at least two major functions: Mechanical-rolling bearing & size stretch and primary sensory. Known functions are protective, immunological, and sexual. The foreskin contains between 10,000-20,000 highly specialized nerve endings and several feet of blood vessels. The entire intact penis may contain around 24,000 nerves, with only 4,000 or so remaining after circumcision. The head of the penis (glans) is meant to be an internal organ, like the tongue and eyeball. Without the protection of the foreskin, like the lips and eyelid, the penis builds up a layer of calloused skin (keratinization) for protection. um. no. look it up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41528772 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But.....Doctors here in America were performing this ritual in the mid twentieth century right here in the Good old USA. We were barbarians too 60 years ago. Africa is a third world country. They are still savages. Yes, it's crime against women! But..... Quoting: 120 Colors doctors. key word. FGM is not done by doctors. but it is mandatory under the LAW. again, Africa is a continent. Is a mohel a doctor? Is sucking a bleeding infant penis sanitary? Is the baby anesthetized? Your one-way arguments invalidate your entire thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71352041 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | days of pain, infection, bleeding happen because unlike male foreskin, the clitoris is an organ. the male foreskin is a part of the penis which is an organ it is wrong to consider the foreskin separate from the penis why is it called foreskin? it's skin, mucus membrane, and not an organ. the clitoris is an organ. So is the foreskin.. [link to www.questioncircumcision.com] the Foreskin should be considered an organ since it has at least two major functions: Mechanical-rolling bearing & size stretch and primary sensory. Known functions are protective, immunological, and sexual. The foreskin contains between 10,000-20,000 highly specialized nerve endings and several feet of blood vessels. The entire intact penis may contain around 24,000 nerves, with only 4,000 or so remaining after circumcision. The head of the penis (glans) is meant to be an internal organ, like the tongue and eyeball. Without the protection of the foreskin, like the lips and eyelid, the penis builds up a layer of calloused skin (keratinization) for protection. Get educated. |
SeaCharger User ID: 70559675 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | days of pain, infection, bleeding happen because unlike male foreskin, the clitoris is an organ. the male foreskin is a part of the penis which is an organ it is wrong to consider the foreskin separate from the penis why is it called foreskin? it's skin, mucus membrane, and not an organ. the clitoris is an organ. So is the foreskin.. [link to www.questioncircumcision.com] the Foreskin should be considered an organ since it has at least two major functions: Mechanical-rolling bearing & size stretch and primary sensory. Known functions are protective, immunological, and sexual. The foreskin contains between 10,000-20,000 highly specialized nerve endings and several feet of blood vessels. The entire intact penis may contain around 24,000 nerves, with only 4,000 or so remaining after circumcision. The head of the penis (glans) is meant to be an internal organ, like the tongue and eyeball. Without the protection of the foreskin, like the lips and eyelid, the penis builds up a layer of calloused skin (keratinization) for protection. THIS! OP has her head in the sand on this issue. SeaCharger |
nikki nikita (OP) User ID: 71071950 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37214159 the male foreskin is a part of the penis which is an organ it is wrong to consider the foreskin separate from the penis why is it called foreskin? it's skin, mucus membrane, and not an organ. the clitoris is an organ. So is the foreskin.. [link to www.questioncircumcision.com] the Foreskin should be considered an organ since it has at least two major functions: Mechanical-rolling bearing & size stretch and primary sensory. Known functions are protective, immunological, and sexual. The foreskin contains between 10,000-20,000 highly specialized nerve endings and several feet of blood vessels. The entire intact penis may contain around 24,000 nerves, with only 4,000 or so remaining after circumcision. The head of the penis (glans) is meant to be an internal organ, like the tongue and eyeball. Without the protection of the foreskin, like the lips and eyelid, the penis builds up a layer of calloused skin (keratinization) for protection. THIS! OP has her head in the sand on this issue. you guys can attempt to hijack a thread because you are obsessed with your penises. the topic isn't about penises. it's about FGM. and the barbaric practice of subjecting girls to FGM. the topic is about women. maybe you can learn about female genitalia instead. |
nikki nikita (OP) User ID: 71071950 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP has no education on this issue and refuses to read or watch any of the links provided. This is called cognitive dissonance. She cannot look objectively at this issue. She doesn't provide any links to support her claims, yet dismisses any new information provided. Quoting: SeaCharger personal attack much? |
nikki nikita (OP) User ID: 71071950 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But.....Doctors here in America were performing this ritual in the mid twentieth century right here in the Good old USA. We were barbarians too 60 years ago. Africa is a third world country. They are still savages. Yes, it's crime against women! But..... Quoting: 120 Colors doctors. key word. FGM is not done by doctors. but it is mandatory under the LAW. again, Africa is a continent. Is a mohel a doctor? Is sucking a bleeding infant penis sanitary? Is the baby anesthetized? Your one-way arguments invalidate your entire thread. yes, a doctor of philosophy usually. baby's nerves aren't developed and anesthesia is more harmful than the centimeter cut. again, this isn't about circumcision. this is about the unethical practice of removing female reproductive organs of girls. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41528772 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: nikki nikita why is it called foreskin? it's skin, mucus membrane, and not an organ. the clitoris is an organ. So is the foreskin.. [link to www.questioncircumcision.com] the Foreskin should be considered an organ since it has at least two major functions: Mechanical-rolling bearing & size stretch and primary sensory. Known functions are protective, immunological, and sexual. The foreskin contains between 10,000-20,000 highly specialized nerve endings and several feet of blood vessels. The entire intact penis may contain around 24,000 nerves, with only 4,000 or so remaining after circumcision. The head of the penis (glans) is meant to be an internal organ, like the tongue and eyeball. Without the protection of the foreskin, like the lips and eyelid, the penis builds up a layer of calloused skin (keratinization) for protection. THIS! OP has her head in the sand on this issue. you guys can attempt to hijack a thread because you are obsessed with your penises. the topic isn't about penises. it's about FGM. and the barbaric practice of subjecting girls to FGM. the topic is about women. maybe you can learn about female genitalia instead. Or maybe if you acknowledged that infant mutilation of any race, religion or gender is wrong, your thread might attract more agreement and less calling out of your ignorance and partisan sexist bias. /end thread |
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SeaCharger User ID: 70559675 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP has no education on this issue and refuses to read or watch any of the links provided. This is called cognitive dissonance. She cannot look objectively at this issue. She doesn't provide any links to support her claims, yet dismisses any new information provided. Quoting: SeaCharger personal attack much? Go back and read through all your posts. When do you provide links to back up your opinions? You don't. And we are not all men on this thread. I'm a woman who wants other women to consider what we have permitted as OK in the US while looking at other countries and judging their cultural practices. The reason why we have to bring up MGM whenever FGM is brought up is because of our huge hypocrisy around the issue. We cannot continue to say FGM is wrong when we still support and practice MGM. SeaCharger |
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nikki nikita (OP) User ID: 71071950 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP has no education on this issue and refuses to read or watch any of the links provided. This is called cognitive dissonance. She cannot look objectively at this issue. She doesn't provide any links to support her claims, yet dismisses any new information provided. Quoting: SeaCharger personal attack much? Go back and read through all your posts. When do you provide links to back up your opinions? You don't. And we are not all men on this thread. I'm a woman who wants other women to consider what we have permitted as OK in the US while looking at other countries and judging their cultural practices. The reason why we have to bring up MGM whenever FGM is brought up is because of our huge hypocrisy around the issue. We cannot continue to say FGM is wrong when we still support and practice MGM. then start your own thread. instead you are attacking the messenger. |
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nikki nikita (OP) User ID: 71071950 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sad thing is....if you have ever studied this or written papers on it - women keep this practice going. The mothers, grandmothers , elders. Quoting: Only Original Documents YES AND THE WOMAN THE OLD ONES HOLD DOWN THE YOUNG GIRLS.... ![]() men do this too. many fathers perform this. as well as carry out honor killing of wives, daughters. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41528772 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP has no education on this issue and refuses to read or watch any of the links provided. This is called cognitive dissonance. She cannot look objectively at this issue. She doesn't provide any links to support her claims, yet dismisses any new information provided. Quoting: SeaCharger personal attack much? Go back and read through all your posts. When do you provide links to back up your opinions? You don't. And we are not all men on this thread. I'm a woman who wants other women to consider what we have permitted as OK in the US while looking at other countries and judging their cultural practices. The reason why we have to bring up MGM whenever FGM is brought up is because of our huge hypocrisy around the issue. We cannot continue to say FGM is wrong when we still support and practice MGM. 40 years ago, my father did not want me to get circumcised, my mother agreed that it should be the father's choice though she had the "hygiene bias" (if a woman can keep her internal organs hygienic, a man can certainly clean under his foreskin), there was so much pressure from hospital staff that made them read biased literature and talked of locker room mockery that my parents relented. That is media bias, pure and simple. Cutting off part of a child for any reason other than to save its life is wrong, period. End of argument. |
nikki nikita (OP) User ID: 71071950 ![]() 02/06/2016 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP has no education on this issue and refuses to read or watch any of the links provided. This is called cognitive dissonance. She cannot look objectively at this issue. She doesn't provide any links to support her claims, yet dismisses any new information provided. Quoting: SeaCharger personal attack much? Go back and read through all your posts. When do you provide links to back up your opinions? You don't. And we are not all men on this thread. I'm a woman who wants other women to consider what we have permitted as OK in the US while looking at other countries and judging their cultural practices. The reason why we have to bring up MGM whenever FGM is brought up is because of our huge hypocrisy around the issue. We cannot continue to say FGM is wrong when we still support and practice MGM. 40 years ago, my father did not want me to get circumcised, my mother agreed that it should be the father's choice though she had the "hygiene bias" (if a woman can keep her internal organs hygienic, a man can certainly clean under his foreskin), there was so much pressure from hospital staff that made them read biased literature and talked of locker room mockery that my parents relented. That is media bias, pure and simple. Cutting off part of a child for any reason other than to save its life is wrong, period. End of argument. I'm sorry for your situation. if your mother had her clitoris removed as a girl she probably wouldn't have had children. again, the topic is FGM. |
SeaCharger User ID: 70559675 ![]() 02/06/2016 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go back and read through all your posts. When do you provide links to back up your opinions? You don't. And we are not all men on this thread. I'm a woman who wants other women to consider what we have permitted as OK in the US while looking at other countries and judging their cultural practices. The reason why we have to bring up MGM whenever FGM is brought up is because of our huge hypocrisy around the issue. We cannot continue to say FGM is wrong when we still support and practice MGM. 40 years ago, my father did not want me to get circumcised, my mother agreed that it should be the father's choice though she had the "hygiene bias" (if a woman can keep her internal organs hygienic, a man can certainly clean under his foreskin), there was so much pressure from hospital staff that made them read biased literature and talked of locker room mockery that my parents relented. That is media bias, pure and simple. Cutting off part of a child for any reason other than to save its life is wrong, period. End of argument. I'm sorry for your situation. if your mother had her clitoris removed as a girl she probably wouldn't have had children. again, the topic is FGM. So you need to have a clitoris to have children? How are all the circumcised women continuing the tradition if they can't have children? Again, you're not educating yourself on this topic. SeaCharger |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9889649 ![]() 02/06/2016 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sad thing is....if you have ever studied this or written papers on it - women keep this practice going. The mothers, grandmothers , elders. Quoting: Only Original Documents YES AND THE WOMAN THE OLD ONES HOLD DOWN THE YOUNG GIRLS.... ![]() men do this too. many fathers perform this. as well as carry out honor killing of wives, daughters. Absolutely and it needs to stop It is a tragedy. The procedures are generally performed by a traditional circumciser in the girls' homes, with or without anaesthesia. The circumciser is usually an older woman, but in communities where the male barber has assumed the role of health worker he will perform FGM too.[35][n 4] Health professionals are often involved in Egypt, Sudan and Kenya; according to a 2008 survey in Egypt, 77 percent of FGM procedures there were performed by medical professionals, often physicians.[37] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41528772 ![]() 02/06/2016 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sad thing is....if you have ever studied this or written papers on it - women keep this practice going. The mothers, grandmothers , elders. Quoting: Only Original Documents YES AND THE WOMAN THE OLD ONES HOLD DOWN THE YOUNG GIRLS.... ![]() men do this too. many fathers perform this. as well as carry out honor killing of wives, daughters. Absolutely and it needs to stop It is a tragedy. The procedures are generally performed by a traditional circumciser in the girls' homes, with or without anaesthesia. The circumciser is usually an older woman, but in communities where the male barber has assumed the role of health worker he will perform FGM too.[35][n 4] Health professionals are often involved in Egypt, Sudan and Kenya; according to a 2008 survey in Egypt, 77 percent of FGM procedures there were performed by medical professionals, often physicians.[37] Here, I changed a bit to show how similar it is to MGM. "The procedures are generally performed by a traditional circumciser in the boys' homes, with or without anaesthesia. The circumciser is usually an older man, but in communities where the female barber has assumed the role of health worker she will perform MGM too.[35][n 4] Health professionals are often involved in Egypt, Sudan and Kenya; according to a 2008 survey in Egypt, 77 percent of MGM procedures there were performed by medical professionals, often physicians.[37]" Not so different. Both wrong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9889649 ![]() 02/06/2016 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sad thing is....if you have ever studied this or written papers on it - women keep this practice going. The mothers, grandmothers , elders. Quoting: Only Original Documents YES AND THE WOMAN THE OLD ONES HOLD DOWN THE YOUNG GIRLS.... ![]() men do this too. many fathers perform this. as well as carry out honor killing of wives, daughters. You clearly have no idea how to present an argument and garner a quorum. Your thread should focus on injustice, establish that you are in support of protecting children (all children) then focus on that which is closest to your heart (or vagina, in this case). But you've essentially said "I don't care what happens to infant males, just females, cuz I am one"). You have proven you are simply a SJW on the activist cause celeb of the week, and there's no going back. You lack substance, conscience and a heart. WE HAVE MORE IN COMMON THAN NOT. OK EVERYONE GO OUTSIDE GET SOME FRESH AIR. ![]() |