Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! | |
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Anonymous User ID: 21016348 United States 02/08/2016 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Many of these artifacts are 10,000 years old and have absolutely no connection to the Paiute. The Feds are only hiding behind the Paiute and the Paiute seem to forget that it was the Feds that kicked them off and screwed them out of their land. If it were up to the Feds and their Indian policy, the Paiute would have been entirely exterminated over 100 years ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65610068 You are exactly right. I wonder why some of the tribes have been able to survive and thrive, while others have been destroyed by the Feds? Here in my area, we have the Eastern Band of the Cherokee, and the town of Cherokee is beautifully thriving. Because the so called 5 "civilized" tribes were sell outs. And they agreed to what the Goverment wanted. Others went into hiding and migrated. Those that refused were killed. Ever would why the only tribes to agree with the government are called "civilized"? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42432137 United States 02/08/2016 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! According to a book written in 1882 by Sarah Winnemucca Hopkins, Life among the Piutes [sic]: Their Wrongs and Claims, her people rose up against a small tribe of barbarians who would attack her people and eat them, hundreds of years ago . . . She wrote that they were said to have reddish hair, and said she owned a dress trimmed with their red hair that had been passed down through the generations. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48685639 Omg...I have never heard that. OMG...WISHED I HADN'T WATCHED THAT! But I have a thing for Kurt Russell. yes, quite horrid. |
Vision Thing User ID: 70913800 United States 02/08/2016 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Here is Lavoy Finicum with the artifacts that the mainstream media wants you to believe were destroyed. The media has been a disgrace throughout this whole thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56527898 It's really sick that the mainstream media could take that and twist it and portray it as worse than the opposite of what was really going on. I'm so sorry that man was murdered. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/08/2016 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Here is Lavoy Finicum with the artifacts that the mainstream media wants you to believe were destroyed. The media has been a disgrace throughout this whole thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56527898 Not remotely the same room that the woman in the other vid was 'inspecting'... Bless LaVoy's heart. It is hard to believe that those artifacts have been treated in that manner. Maybe the Paiute people will see now what has really happened to their culture. |
Anonymous User ID: 21016348 United States 02/08/2016 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Another thing I want to point out in this thread is the Feds should not be allowed to come in and take a land owner's preemptive rights to his or her land. Quoting: ^^MW^^ It is illegal, but the Feds just keep kicking us around. If they can enslave groups of people from another continent in a massive world wide trade, surely they can take your land. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37773544 United States 02/08/2016 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! look Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37773544 the cowboys and ranchers fucked up the land (grasslands) and the horse herds now they are doing everything they can to not like assholes Your proof? Those horse herds? Are remnants of ranchers' horse bands that they let run wild, they would capture and break the foals, leaving the mares and a stallion to roam the range and breed. Their unchecked populations have become a huge problem for western rangelands as horses paw to dig up the roots of bunch grasses doing irrepairable damage to the land. It was not until Wild Horse Annie and the Wild Horse and Burro Protection Act that the horses became such a problem. Thank YOU city folk for imposing impractical regulation upon land and ecosystems you know nothing about. break = fucked-up and a bunch of other stuff it is going to be fixed |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/08/2016 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Another thing I want to point out in this thread is the Feds should not be allowed to come in and take a land owner's preemptive rights to his or her land. Quoting: ^^MW^^ It is illegal, but the Feds just keep kicking us around. If they can enslave groups of people from another continent in a massive world wide trade, surely they can take your land. Exactly, but I have just realized that in the last couple of years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65610068 United States 02/08/2016 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! look Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37773544 the cowboys and ranchers fucked up the land (grasslands) and the horse herds now they are doing everything they can to not like assholes Your proof? Those horse herds? Are remnants of ranchers' horse bands that they let run wild, they would capture and break the foals, leaving the mares and a stallion to roam the range and breed. Their unchecked populations have become a huge problem for western rangelands as horses paw to dig up the roots of bunch grasses doing irrepairable damage to the land. It was not until Wild Horse Annie and the Wild Horse and Burro Protection Act that the horses became such a problem. Thank YOU city folk for imposing impractical regulation upon land and ecosystems you know nothing about. break = fucked-up and a bunch of other stuff it is going to be fixed Break: term used for training a horse. More proof you haven't a clue what you are talking about. You are way out of your league here. May I suggest you go back to playing with your My Little Pony and pet dildo. |
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Lily o' the Valley User ID: 11213558 United States 02/08/2016 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Here is Lavoy Finicum with the artifacts that the mainstream media wants you to believe were destroyed. The media has been a disgrace throughout this whole thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56527898 ^^^^ THIS Look up Recapture Canyon BLM and you will see how BLM handles citizens who take artifacts. Daniel P. Love of Bundy Standoff fame handled this case and there was a lot of heavy criticism. Back in the early 1980s I was told by an archaeologist in 4 Corners that pot hunters could get up to $150,000 for a good pristine Native American pot. Think what just a stone pestle would go for now. A decent arrowhead goes for $55 - $65. Was the basement of the refuge a private stash for BLM? How many others are there across the US. This looks like the sprouts of another scandal of government abuse. If this refuge was built on a burial ground, it was probably full of artifacts. like a fruitcake is full of raisins. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
erin136 User ID: 71406914 United States 02/08/2016 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Here is Lavoy Finicum with the artifacts that the mainstream media wants you to believe were destroyed. The media has been a disgrace throughout this whole thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56527898 ^^^^ THIS Look up Recapture Canyon BLM and you will see how BLM handles citizens who take artifacts. Daniel P. Love of Bundy Standoff fame handled this case and there was a lot of heavy criticism. Back in the early 1980s I was told by an archaeologist in 4 Corners that pot hunters could get up to $150,000 for a good pristine Native American pot. Think what just a stone pestle would go for now. A decent arrowhead goes for $55 - $65. Was the basement of the refuge a private stash for BLM? How many others are there across the US. This looks like the sprouts of another scandal of government abuse. If this refuge was built on a burial ground, it was probably full of artifacts. like a fruitcake is full of raisins. When was this posted in relation to when they set these guys up? Because I see more than just artifacts he also says if the native people have a stake in the land they can open communications for that as well. This is particularly interesting because yesterday there was an article somewhere where they were saying the native tribe did not want them there but also it went into detail about how the government screwed them over. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71371199 Canada 02/08/2016 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Here is Lavoy Finicum with the artifacts that the mainstream media wants you to believe were destroyed. The media has been a disgrace throughout this whole thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56527898 Not remotely the same room that the woman in the other vid was 'inspecting'... So you’re saying there were many more rooms that BLM was hiding artifacts in. I believe you. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/08/2016 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! You have got to see this: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] AMMON BUNDY LEAVES MEGYN KELLY SPEECHLESS. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65610068 United States 02/08/2016 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Here is Lavoy Finicum with the artifacts that the mainstream media wants you to believe were destroyed. The media has been a disgrace throughout this whole thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56527898 ^^^^ THIS Look up Recapture Canyon BLM and you will see how BLM handles citizens who take artifacts. Daniel P. Love of Bundy Standoff fame handled this case and there was a lot of heavy criticism. Back in the early 1980s I was told by an archaeologist in 4 Corners that pot hunters could get up to $150,000 for a good pristine Native American pot. Think what just a stone pestle would go for now. A decent arrowhead goes for $55 - $65. Was the basement of the refuge a private stash for BLM? How many others are there across the US. This looks like the sprouts of another scandal of government abuse. If this refuge was built on a burial ground, it was probably full of artifacts. like a fruitcake is full of raisins. When was this posted in relation to when they set these guys up? Because I see more than just artifacts he also says if the native people have a stake in the land they can open communications for that as well. This is particularly interesting because yesterday there was an article somewhere where they were saying the native tribe did not want them there but also it went into detail about how the government screwed them over. The Paiute were definitely not excluded from the cause. They were invited to meet and participate in the process of returning the land to the people and allowing the county to administer it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/08/2016 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! MW, Quoting: snowgoosebob When I viewed your topic showing a BLM room full of Native Paiute sacred artifacts it reminded me about a recorded video conversation from LaVoy's funeral I saw the other day. You really need to watch the video conversation below. This will make your blood boil on what the Fed Gov/BLM did to this guys dad (destroyed his life) over a tiny little bead artifact! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I will watch it right now. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 02/08/2016 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! MW, Quoting: snowgoosebob When I viewed your topic showing a BLM room full of Native Paiute sacred artifacts it reminded me about a recorded video conversation from LaVoy's funeral I saw the other day. You really need to watch the video conversation below. This will make your blood boil on what the Fed Gov/BLM did to this guys dad (destroyed his life) over a tiny little bead artifact! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I will watch it right now. This is a heartbreaking story. I cannot believe this man was harassed over a tiny artifact when the Feds have done what they have done to the Paiute artifacts at the Refuge. Honestly, I don't have any words. We are an oppressed people. |
Oceanbreeze4u User ID: 71331065 United States 02/08/2016 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge Closed Due to the ongoing situation in eastern Oregon, and out of an abundance of caution for the well being of our staff and visitors, Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge is currently closed. less than 50 % more at link. [link to www.fws.gov] 5 stars good thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71425033 United States 02/08/2016 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Mountain Woman, you are the Queen of Disinformation on this. The Feds did not lie about the Piute's Artifacts, they have an agreement with the Piutes to keep the Artifacts at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, so the Piutes know the Artifacts are there. Get your facts straight. The Piutes have been upset that LaVoy Finicum nosed into and rifled through the artifacts. It's BS that they haven't been touched, they were touched by Finicum. And it's interesting that Finicum seemed to have picked up a Native American Curse on him for doing so. One thing that you do not do, you do not disturb or disrupt Native American Artifacts. So it looks like Karma is a bitch after all. |
Just Trina User ID: 71330009 United States 02/08/2016 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Many of these artifacts are 10,000 years old and have absolutely no connection to the Paiute. The Feds are only hiding behind the Paiute and the Paiute seem to forget that it was the Feds that kicked them off and screwed them out of their land. If it were up to the Feds and their Indian policy, the Paiute would have been entirely exterminated over 100 years ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65610068 You are exactly right. I wonder why some of the tribes have been able to survive and thrive, while others have been destroyed by the Feds? Here in my area, we have the Eastern Band of the Cherokee, and the town of Cherokee is beautifully thriving. Hey MW Remember what we did to the Indians!!! Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it!!. We MURDERED them to STEAL THEIR LAND!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65610068 United States 02/08/2016 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge Closed Quoting: Oceanbreeze4u Due to the ongoing situation in eastern Oregon, and out of an abundance of caution for the well being of our staff and visitors, Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge is currently closed. less than 50 % more at link. [link to www.fws.gov] 5 stars good thread. Great excuse for a paid extended vacation. It's not like the FWS does jack shit when they are "working" anyway. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65610068 United States 02/08/2016 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Mountain Woman, you are the Queen of Disinformation on this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71425033 The Feds did not lie about the Piute's Artifacts, they have an agreement with the Piutes to keep the Artifacts at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, so the Piutes know the Artifacts are there. Get your facts straight. The Piutes have been upset that LaVoy Finicum nosed into and rifled through the artifacts. It's BS that they haven't been touched, they were touched by Finicum. And it's interesting that Finicum seemed to have picked up a Native American Curse on him for doing so. One thing that you do not do, you do not disturb or disrupt Native American Artifacts. So it looks like Karma is a bitch after all. Finicum was Native American himself. Stop with the drama. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71334073 United States 02/08/2016 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Another thing I want to point out in this thread is the Feds should not be allowed to come in and take a land owner's preemptive rights to his or her land. Quoting: ^^MW^^ It is illegal, but the Feds just keep kicking us around. Be careful OP, the Feds have many ways to silence people who keep talking. Have you googled Jefferson de Souza UFO and read his blog? The Feds set him up and kept him in prison for 20 years without telling his family. He is still in prison. |
Angella777 User ID: 69994055 United States 02/08/2016 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Proof the FEDS LIED about the Bundy Militia mishandling Paiute artifacts. Ammon Bundy leaves Megyn Kelly speechless! Mountain Woman, you are the Queen of Disinformation on this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71425033 The Feds did not lie about the Piute's Artifacts, they have an agreement with the Piutes to keep the Artifacts at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, so the Piutes know the Artifacts are there. Get your facts straight. The Piutes have been upset that LaVoy Finicum nosed into and rifled through the artifacts. It's BS that they haven't been touched, they were touched by Finicum. And it's interesting that Finicum seemed to have picked up a Native American Curse on him for doing so. One thing that you do not do, you do not disturb or disrupt Native American Artifacts. So it looks like Karma is a bitch after all. Nice try but no cigar, Finicum's MURDER was not some random Native American curse you twit. It was the product of elitist greed, Uranium, and Gov't overreach. You take the cake for an avenue not yet tried until now. Unbelievable bs all juiced up with what APPEARS to be pro Piute rhetoric. However, you've just taken the low road to proliferate your allegiance to big gov't. Epic fail on your part. Angella777 |
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