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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66784862 Australia 02/11/2016 05:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when they happened, they should have observed four little flashes, but instead, they got one big flash, signalling that these neutrons broke off in a cluster. Well maybe. A bit sketchy. How long do they think this 'particle' can persist? I imagine it's like less than nano-seconds. |
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Face Palmer (OP) User ID: 1149868 Germany 02/11/2016 06:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What she said. Does this have any implications for our current understanding and paradigm of the standard model? Its in the article? So why is the idea of four neutrons teaming up so impossible? "Well, the Pauli exclusion principle specifies that particles in the same system cannot be in the same quantum state. As a consequence of this, even two neutrons shouldn't be able to stick together, let alone four," says Inglis-Arkell. "However, four neutrons smashing at high speed into a carbon atom, and then reaching a detector at exactly the same place and exactly the same time is nearly as impossible as the idea that a basic tenet of physics needs to be modified." [...] And that’s a really exciting thing. It’s not every day that our fundamental understanding of the Universe has to be officially reestablished, and not only could we watch that happen, it could also lead to really important advances in our knowledge of how some of its most mysterious objects actually exist. Real dummy version: Strange particle detected, that should not be able to exist may have us to re-write some part of physics. Last Edited by Face Palmer on 02/11/2016 06:31 AM "The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title." Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women |
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redhed6971 User ID: 48412925 United States 02/11/2016 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An aberration in the experiment. Tetra neutrons cannot exist. “Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.” "Hello, I need a replacement filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro." “You actually slaughter each other over affairs of the spirit.” Da’an Earth-Final Conflict |
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Canndy User ID: 71449308 United Kingdom 02/11/2016 06:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dark Energy = Same as above and they don't know if the universe will end in a big collpase or will exspand untill matter is all pulled apart. I would move on to the black hole myth but i know you all have pictures burnt in your mind of what they look like but all you have ever seen are artist impresions and computer simulations because the center of the milkyway is covered by rocks, plants, gas and dust and is 36 light years away from earth. Modern science is speculating too much and you have to play along to be a member of the gang. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50732251 United States 02/11/2016 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is probably what dark matter is. The tetraneutron is electrically neutral. It should be able to pass through atomic matter and occasionally collide with nuclei. In the presence of a large gravitational field, it should be attracted. There is probably a lot of tetraneutrons at the centers of the Earth, planets, and Sun. They wouldn't exist on the surface because gravity would pull them through normal atomic matter. 99% of the volume of an atom is empty space. 99% of the mass of an atom is at the center which is less than one percent of the volume. So the gravity of the Earth would cause all of the tetraneutrons to be at the center of the Earth. |
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AkashicRecord® User ID: 71449983 United States 02/11/2016 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's true, because neutrons repel each other, just like the the poles of magnets. (They aren't "neutral" ...hell, they shouldn't really even be called neutrons.) But you aren't taught any of that in any school or college. Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 02/11/2016 07:48 AM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
bluebonnet User ID: 5448856 United States 02/11/2016 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | is this the same thing? -- Einstein's gravitational waves observed for the first time? One hundred years after his theory of Einstein's general relativity, the scientific community is set to announce on Thursday that it has directly observed the existence of gravitational waves, in a merger of black holes. According to Albert Einstein, the great celestial bodies deform space, and these distortions spread by forming waves. [link to www.itele.fr] bluebonnet |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70048407 United States 02/11/2016 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I assume if there are no protons there are also no electrons eh? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70667163 didnt read the article. just got up The neutrons can, at their will (because THEY ARE CONSCIOUS) decay into protons OR electrons OR a virus like cancer. Neutrons are the precursor to RNA/DNA and literally the building block of all life AND death. Neutrons exhibit a neutral charge but scientist will later find you can have a neutron with degrees of positive or negative charge in addition to the neutral charge, like a neutron on steroids. As humans we must remember that every atom, cell, molecule carries some sort of consciousness. Consciousness arises when a system produces OR gains more energy than is needed for the organism to survive. I like to say consciousness is created by God because most organisms need all their energy to survive. Something that should be mentioned here, without neutrons we wouldn't have electricity or magnetism. I think 3 protons, 1 neutron and 4 or 6 electrons would be perfect for the new human vehicle. |
AkashicRecord® User ID: 71449983 United States 02/11/2016 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neutrons exhibit a neutral charge but scientist will later find you can have a neutron with degrees of positive or negative charge in addition to the neutral charge, like a neutron on steroids. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70048407 Wrong (sort of.) Science was fucked over in the mid 1940s because of the bomb, however. The effects were far-reaching and persist even today. For instance, our own sun is actually somewhat of a "clothed" neutron star; it is also a pulsar. It might even be better called a magnetic plasma diffuser. Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
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Digital mix guy User ID: 70951332 United States 02/11/2016 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Physicists have found the most convincing signs of a tetraneutron - a four neutron-no proton particle - to date, adding weight to the possibility that the hypothetical particle really does exist. According to theory, this highly elusive particle cluster is impossible, because of how unstable lone neutrons are, but scientists in Japan say they’ve spotted its signature during recent experiments. Quoting: Face Palmer While the results need to be replicated independently before we can truly say the fabled tetraneutron exists, if other teams can confirm its existence, we’re going to have to make some serious changes to current understanding of nuclear forces. "It would be something of a sensation," nuclear theorist Peter Schuck from France's National Centre for Scientific Research, who wasn’t involved in the discovery, told Science News. Physicists have been searching for the tetraneutron for decades, and while this 1965 paper concluded that no evidence could be found and "the existence of tetraneutrons is most unlikely", four separate papers have since reported experimental observations of the particle. Most recently, theoretical physicist Francisco-Miguel Marqués and his team at the Ganil accelerator in France used a new technique to observe the particle - by watching the disintegration of beryllium and lithium nuclei. In 2002, they were smashing beryllium-14 particles into carbon particles in an attempt to blow apart beryllium’s cluster of four neutrons. As Esther Inglis-Arkell explains over at Gizmodo, when they happened, they should have observed four little flashes, but instead, they got one big flash, signalling that these neutrons broke off in a cluster. [link to www.sciencealert.com] great post! Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70048407 United States 02/11/2016 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is probably what dark matter is. The tetraneutron is electrically neutral. It should be able to pass through atomic matter and occasionally collide with nuclei. In the presence of a large gravitational field, it should be attracted. There is probably a lot of tetraneutrons at the centers of the Earth, planets, and Sun. They wouldn't exist on the surface because gravity would pull them through normal atomic matter. 99% of the volume of an atom is empty space. 99% of the mass of an atom is at the center which is less than one percent of the volume. So the gravity of the Earth would cause all of the tetraneutrons to be at the center of the Earth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50732251 Very similar, but it has it's counterpart, dark energy too. Basically it is a dense plasma on the "inside" and lighter or more fine material on the "outside". This ratio of dark matter to dark energy depends on how pure the material is to begin with and if the initial material has an absolute neutral charge or the neutral plus positive or negative. <<<this delves into chaos theory and I'm dang sure not great at explaining that yet, lol. This stuff is hard for me to explain as I'm still figuring the details out, it's very in depth and a lot of it is supposed to be "secret"...but everyone knows I do not like keeping secrets...especially if those same secrets are HUMANITIES to begin with. To learn more about these neutrons or even dark matter or dark energy look into baryon octets and baryon decuplets. The info is out there, on the net, etc. all we need to do is have the desire to learn and keep an open mind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70048407 United States 02/11/2016 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when they happened, they should have observed four little flashes, but instead, they got one big flash, signalling that these neutrons broke off in a cluster. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66784862 Well maybe. A bit sketchy. How long do they think this 'particle' can persist? I imagine it's like less than nano-seconds. Correct, however the flash was seen and registered. The particle still exists, just not in this dimension anymore. The heat generated lets the particle escape this dimension into the one "above" ours. Only particles < than Planck temp and > absolute zero stay in this dimension. This is all known by your "leaders". Why they haven't used this to produce free energy yet we still can't figure out...? |
AkashicRecord® User ID: 71449983 United States 02/11/2016 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when they happened, they should have observed four little flashes, but instead, they got one big flash, signalling that these neutrons broke off in a cluster. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66784862 Well maybe. A bit sketchy. How long do they think this 'particle' can persist? I imagine it's like less than nano-seconds. Correct, however the flash was seen and registered. The particle still exists, just not in this dimension anymore. The heat generated lets the particle escape this dimension into the one "above" ours. Only particles < than Planck temp and > absolute zero stay in this dimension. This is all known by your "leaders". Why they haven't used this to produce free energy yet we still can't figure out...? You'll never see "free" (or even affordable) energy until the wealthy are taken care of / dealt with (harshly.) Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 02/11/2016 09:11 AM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70411064 United States 02/11/2016 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What she said. Does this have any implications for our current understanding and paradigm of the standard model? Yes. It gives further evidence for supersymmetry and technicolor. the Pauli exclusion principle says that a tetraneutron cluster should not exist, even in an excited state. Their presence would mean either an addition force mediator needs to be included or under certain circumstances the Pauli exclusion breaks down. |
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