EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69971993 Ireland 02/18/2016 05:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June There's just no doubt in my mind, the EU is finished, and Eastern Europe will split with the west and ally with Russia. Western Europe will erupt in chaos, civil wars and terror attacks from within by the hordes of refujihadis. |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70933119 Czechia 02/18/2016 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June There's just no doubt in my mind, the EU is finished, and Eastern Europe will split with the west and ally with Russia. Western Europe will erupt in chaos, civil wars and terror attacks from within by the hordes of refujihadis. Quoting: Tess. If this will happen, then I'm quite afraid of attacks in Eastern countries too. Maybe not from refujihadists, but West never let Eastern Europe to ally with Russia. Poland [government] will never do this and they're biggest player here. Years there are rumours about two Unions. Stronger west lead by Germany and then second one on east. Then Western Europe will have refujihadists and Eastern Europe will have big economic/politics problems and it will lead to raise "extremists" parties. Last Edited by serkok on 02/18/2016 05:15 AM “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70933119 Czechia 02/18/2016 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Press conference before summit: On UK EU reform Junker says "I’m quite confident that we will have a deal during this European Council" [link to twitter.com (secure)] Juncker says doesn't like trend of increased border controls or Austrian quota move; to have "frank" talks with Faymann [link to twitter.com (secure)] Last Edited by serkok on 02/18/2016 06:10 AM “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69971993 Ireland 02/18/2016 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Press conference before summit: Quoting: serkok On UK EU reform Junker says "I’m quite confident that we will have a deal during this European Council" [link to twitter.com (secure)] Juncker says doesn't like trend of increased border controls or Austrian quota move; to have "frank" talks with Faymann [link to twitter.com (secure)] That's all total bullshit! There is no deal without Treaty change - all the EU have to do is amend any 'deal' later. Cameron's fooling no-one and all of Britain knows it. |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70933119 Czechia 02/18/2016 06:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Press conference before summit: Quoting: serkok On UK EU reform Junker says "I’m quite confident that we will have a deal during this European Council" [link to twitter.com (secure)] Juncker says doesn't like trend of increased border controls or Austrian quota move; to have "frank" talks with Faymann [link to twitter.com (secure)] That's all total bullshit! There is no deal without Treaty change - all the EU have to do is amend any 'deal' later. Cameron's fooling no-one and all of Britain knows it. What else can you expect from Junker? Only BS. I really don't like him, with all of his hugs, kisses, touchings he giving to other leaders. Just like they're his pets or something. I can tell what he give us: “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70956303 Czechia 02/18/2016 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Sorry for G00gle translate: The European Union will close the borders for refugees from the war zones of the countries of the Middle East on March 1, we learned today from a source in Brussels close to the European Commission. As we were told, closing borders to refugees will be gradually implemented, mainly for refugees from Iraq, Afghanistan and then at the end of the process from within Syria. "Demonstrative exercises complete the process of closing the borders is already taking place between Slovenian and Croatian, as well as between Serbia and Macedonia," the interlocutors today. WFT?? I started separate thread on this: Thread: Belgrade newspaper: EU closes borders to refugees on March 1 entirely “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70956303 Czechia 02/18/2016 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Who will have influence at the summit table — and who won’t Nice and simple picture: [link to g8fip1kplyr33r3krz5b97d1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com] Whole article: [link to www.politico.eu] “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70956303 Czechia 02/18/2016 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Arrivals, if someone interested: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Pres. Tusk: "This is a make or break summit, I have no doubt." [link to twitter.com (secure)] Last Edited by serkok on 02/18/2016 08:47 AM “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70947908 Czechia 02/18/2016 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Biggest enemies of Europenans? [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70947908 Czechia 02/18/2016 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June - Many in the EP think 'ever closer union' is a good formulation for the future too - not just the past. - We are not a multi-currency union. - If other EU MS require similar changes then we would be in "treaty change mode" - and the EP would convene a convention. - If all countries shared the refugee burden, there would be no crisis. From [link to twitter.com (secure)] Last Edited by serkok on 02/18/2016 01:00 PM “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35230457 United Kingdom 02/18/2016 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Schultz at press conference few minutes back: Quoting: serkok - Many in the EP think 'ever closer union' is a good formulation for the future too - not just the past. - We are not a multi-currency union. - If other EU MS require similar changes then we would be in "treaty change mode" - and the EP would convene a convention. - If all countries shared the refugee burden, there would be no crisis. From [link to twitter.com (secure)] - If all countries shared the refugee burden, there would be no crisis. fallacious argument |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70933119 Czechia 02/18/2016 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June The drama started. Hopefully the results will be good for Europe as a whole. #UKinEU #EUCO [link to pic.twitter.com] — Dalia Grybauskaitė (@Grybauskaite_LT) February 18, 2016 European Parliament Pres Schulz tells me #EU #UK negotiations may roll into weekend before being resolved — katya adler (@BBCkatyaadler) February 18, 2016 “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70956303 Czechia 02/18/2016 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June The British delegation will meet the Visegrad group – Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, and Czech Republic – after tonight’s dinner, media say. Yesterday, those four countries rejected the U.K. proposal to curtail benefits for EU migrant workers. More on this issue: [link to www.politico.eu] _____________________________________ Friday's Guardian front page: Cameron has ‘one chance to strike EU deal’ [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to twitter.com (secure)] Friday's Telegraph front page: FTSE Chiefs' Yes to Europe [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to twitter.com (secure)] Friday's Daily Mail: Face that says it all [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to twitter.com (secure)] Friday's Daily Express: You can't win Prime Minister [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to twitter.com (secure)] “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70933119 Czechia 02/19/2016 03:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June #Faymann: Next #EUCO will be earlier, 7.,8. or 9. of March, including Minisummit with Turkey @POLITICOEurope pic.twitter.com/V1eJcTjvSK — vonderburchard (@vonderburchard) February 19, 2016 Last night ended with conclusions on migration but only “some progress” on the issue of U.K.-EU relations. Today, it’s all Brexit. Leaders are headed for what was initially called an English breakfast but — as a reminder of the lack of progress — has been renamed “English lunch.” “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70956303 Czechia 02/19/2016 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Reporters have quoted Greek sources saying Prime Minister Tsipras is threatening to veto the agreement on Brexit. Tsipras wants an EU open-border policy up until March in exchange for his vote. /Edit: “We are asking for a unanimous decision that until (an EU-Turkey summit planned for) March 6, no state will unilaterally close its borders… if not, the Greek government will not approve the conclusion text,” the source told AFP. Last Edited by serkok on 02/19/2016 09:07 AM “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69665735 Netherlands 02/19/2016 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Just start sending the so-called refugees back to Turkey as a measure. EU is not taken serious by radical Muslim countries and trying to bribe them with 3 billion euro taxpayer money is only enforcing the weak picture they have painted of us. Merkel talks of letting Turkey into the EU should be viewed as a big threat to every European citizen. |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70956303 Czechia 02/19/2016 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Just start sending the so-called refugees back to Turkey as a measure. EU is not taken serious by radical Muslim countries and trying to bribe them with 3 billion euro taxpayer money is only enforcing the weak picture they have painted of us. Merkel talks of letting Turkey into the EU should be viewed as a big threat to every European citizen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69665735 I agree with that weak picture. Just wait for next summit with Turkey. Merkel will beg Turkish PM... Then we will get even weaker picture. And Turkey, with their mad dictator Erdogan, will celebrate this. “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70947908 Czechia 02/19/2016 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June David Cameron has been praised by fellow Conservatives for securing a “unique” deal for Britain — before a deal has been struck. A group of 60 Tory party members signed a letter saying that “for the first time since 1975 a British Prime Minister has returned from a summit with more powers than when they arrived”. [link to www.politico.eu] “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70947908 Czechia 02/19/2016 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Meanwhile, EU leaders are leaving the Council building. “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 70947908 Czechia 02/19/2016 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June After a marathon two-day negotiating session in Brussels, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker and European Council chief Donald Tusk put a final text before leaders that they believe “is a very fair and balanced proposal, which should have a good chance to gain the agreement of all 28 leaders,” said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity. #brexit deal done. simple 7yr duration for in-work, child benefit indexation from 2020, ever closer union sorted, treaty change guarantees — Ian Traynor (@traynorbrussels) February 19, 2016 “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 1762182 Czechia 02/19/2016 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June The European diplomatic editor for the Financial Times, Alex Barker, has tweeted a leaked copy of the Brexit draft agreement. Draft Brexit deal — The ever closer union carve out for Britain, added to future treaties #brexit pic.twitter.com/wJAZSdhNsM — Alex Barker (@alexebarker) February 19, 2016 Leaked draft: child benefit curbs only apply to current claimant after 2020 pic.twitter.com/vw6T4t0LX2 — Alex Barker (@alexebarker) February 19, 2016 Leaked Brexit draft: benefits emergency brake can apply for seven years, not renewable pic.twitter.com/AperPCWHFp — Alex Barker (@alexebarker) February 19, 2016 Leaked Brexit draft: non-euro emergency brake can be pulled by one country. Win for Cameron pic.twitter.com/P7Twyma0nx — Alex Barker (@alexebarker) February 19, 2016 Leaked Brexit draft: The self destruct clause in summit conclusions. Doesn't kill off second referendum idea pic.twitter.com/3nFmOEZe2N — Alex Barker (@alexebarker) February 19, 2016 Last Edited by serkok on 02/19/2016 06:00 PM “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
serkok (OP) User ID: 1762182 Czechia 02/19/2016 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June CAMERON PRESS CONFERENCE “Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state. “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
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serkok (OP) User ID: 1762182 Czechia 02/19/2016 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June So far EVERYONE say they're happy, blah blah... Theather for public of course. Looking forward to referendum! ____________________ Tusk: We didn't walk away from the negotiating table. We were willing to sacrifice part of our interests for the common good, to show our unity. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Last Edited by serkok on 02/19/2016 06:08 PM “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
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serkok (OP) User ID: 1762182 Czechia 02/19/2016 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June What was Netanyahoo doing in Berlin discussing immigration issues with Merkel? As if I dont know. But seriously, what's the official story here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71507689 Haaretz: Speaking in Berlin, Netanyahu says French threat to recognize Palestinian state 'ensures failure'; Merkel voices support for two-state solution. Just one headline I found. Official story probably not interesting. Nothing about UK, migration etc. But I'm quite sure there is no coincidence with timing of Netanyahu's visit. /Edit: [link to www.welt.de] Last Edited by serkok on 02/19/2016 06:27 PM “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |
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serkok (OP) User ID: 1762182 Czechia 02/19/2016 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: EU Summit: Britain will be permanently out of ever-closer union. Never part of a European super state | Referendum date set for 23 June Tusk @eucopresident: "I love Britain and I love Brussels" @JunckerEU "i love Brussels more" — Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) February 19, 2016 “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell |