Most euthanasia deaths linked to loneliness, says Dutch study

They actually have "doctors" giving lethal injections to people?

How can they possibly call themselves doctors? What a terribly sad reflection of Europe.

Make sure you don't let anyone interfere with summer vacation, how inconvenient.

I get it

With a socialistic government taking care of your every need the human aspect has left Dutch society. Not so long they found a lady in her apartment, I believe in Rotterdam, who had been dead for ten years or so. Her financial benefit continued for all this time and nobody ever checked on her because they all think that a socialist society takes good care of everyone. However the result is that no-one takes responsibility of checking with a neighbor to make sure he or she is doing okay, because after all, the government takes good care of you and that is why people pay exorbitant taxes.

Bernie Sanders doesn't understand this nuance and the kids that want to vote him in because socialism sounds so wonderful are clueless and stupid and history repeats itself over and over again. I know for a fact that there are lots of extremely lonely seniors in the Netherlands who never get out and seldom talk to a kind soul.

This is so tragic. Utterly horrible!

Who would CHOOSE EUTHANASIA if they were not LONELY???


Hippocratic Oath, Modern Version

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:


I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures which are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

Written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, and used in many medical schools today.

ffs... why not treat the loneliness? or have we become that uncaring, lazy and slothful?... :(

Agreed, it would be better if ''loneliness'' was just reclassifised as a symptom or disease to be treated normally without harming the patient.

Nihilists!
Fuck me.
I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

i hope that was sarcasm Apparently you haven't been lonely Perth. We seek like minded souls to bond with occasionally where there are none to be found, and would prefer loneliness to dealing with assholes.

How is this a disease

If I was there I would consider it.

What happened to "first, do no harm?"

i think you got me wrong somehow.... OP got my point....

there is a plethora of reasons for loneliness, and i suffered greatly from it when younger if there was nobody around.... not so much anymore

how do you treat loneliness? ask the person the reasons... it could be as simple as being elderly with no family or bed bound or the like...

and then help them with the many ways you can.

phone calls to check up and chat, organised field/ day/ concert trips, visits from volunteer carers...

man.... heaps of stuff....

there are a squillion services set up to treat such a condition as loneliness, depression etc...

chronic or morbid conditions maybe more difficult, but not impossible....

would we use euthanasia for suicidal teens?

perhaps the person is at the end of their tether and sick of life because of loneliness... but those sorts of statistics are still sad.... should it really be at the 50% mark... i would have thought cancer or other death sentence maladies would be at that range?....

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But Alterwelt said if you kill yourself when youre sad, you'll be stuck in that state of mind forever....


When I was in love I was so filled with bliss, I had a thought that I should kill myself now, because its all downhill from here. I should have done it, I would have been in a happy state of mind in the afterlife.

I can understand the need for euthanasia in some very rare cases, meaning the person has chosen themselves and someone else does the deed.

But as someone who is a suicide survivor (lost someone to suicide), and well versed as a result in all aspects of suicide, I have no idea why someone would choose to
go through all the trouble of flying to some clinic in Switzerland or wherever, and going through some expensive ritual. The only justification I see for choosing this is location, so as not to include innocent parties.

There is way, and unfortunately it's so easy nobody will discuss it. I also don't understand why they keep trying one drug after the other for Execution when the same method would work. I am anti execution btw. I think there should be a remote island in the pacific reserved for special people.

I don't see anything wrong with euthanasia if you want to go it's your right.

My grandmother spent the last couple of weeks of her life in a nursing home due to her special medical needs.

My parents saw the loneliness of many of the other residence while grandma was dying. Many of them were dumped by family and never visited. That was sixteen years ago and to this day my parents volunteer (no pay) at the same nursing home every Friday.

My mom plays piano, and dad leads in song. many of the residence sing and clap with joy. After the music, mom and dad visit with some the residence lifting their spirits with just simple conversations.

My parents are overwhelmed by the blessings they have received lifting up others.

No need to let our society die lonely.

that's awesome and exactly what i was talking about...

it brings to mind a quote:

"why go on when you have nothing to look forward to and nothing to live for"....

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Exactly. We all have the right to use the EXIT door. It's a gift. No shame in checking yourself out of the madness.

I think the left is very bizarre, making up "rights" everywhere they go. Who gives the "right" to the doctor to kill someone?

No doubt it's someone whom we wouldn't want lurking around in heaven anyway, so no great loss.

I love people like your parents. I meet someone like them every once in a while.

Chickenshits can't kill themselves and want sterile "doctors" to do it for them. I suppose they probably think the doctor won't go to heaven instead of them.

Its the cleansing process to clear out the Europeans. Jews love it.

You aren't supposed to until your clunker gives out. Must be a reason for it. Bailing out is bad form. Especially if it's just because you're lonely.

I'm very lonely (like most GLP'ers).

But I haven't killed anybody yet., let alone any Youths in Asia!

The 'lonely ones' are already battle-hardened for the coming Tribulations. We will survive and thrive, praise God.

I was a nurse asst for a couple yrs when I was younger. No way is euthanasia a good idea. In my opinion, getting old and having dementia is like being on an acid trip. Sometimes it's really great (memories are real for them) and sometimes they have bad memories. I just think its the mind retracing it's steps. There is so much more to living than we are told.

You shouldn't be forced to live in this horrible world. If they want to die, let them die by a doctor who knows how to do it.

I will have a hard time living when my husband dies. I will probably think about doing this.

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. I work in an ER, and dementia is no acid trip. They are utterly confused, they don't know their family, they walk out of their houses or wherever they are not knowing what they are doing. Meanwhile, their poor families have to watch the decline and worry every second. OR Their families stop caring about them, and they get stuck in a home or hospital and left slowly to die.

Not to mention, I've seen most of them get violent. If they aren't violent they eventually go catatonic.

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How sad.