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Does anyone else find this odd? ARPA documents from 1963 seem to be a rarity and there are things that need to be explained.
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Thats alot of reading. From the looks of it they had computer lauguages and the term software 20 years before the internet. Magnetic storage must of been 3.5 disk, highly doubt USB thumbdrives. What do you make of this Opie?
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ARPA (precursor to DARPA) worked with private companies (BBN Communications) to invent the internet. The internet was a top secret communications enterprise in the 60's. In the 70's and 80's it was opened up to universities and to the public.

There's nothing special about these documents.
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thanks for the info. I just thought the 60s were kind of early
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Thats alot of reading. From the looks of it they had computer lauguages and the term software 20 years before the internet. Magnetic storage must of been 3.5 disk, highly doubt USB thumbdrives. What do you make of this Opie?
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I see this sort of ignorance and I weep.
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Thats alot of reading. From the looks of it they had computer lauguages and the term software 20 years before the internet. Magnetic storage must of been 3.5 disk, highly doubt USB thumbdrives. What do you make of this Opie?
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I see this sort of ignorance and I weep.
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Who invented the internet?
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Who invented the internet?
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gorebotshitstir2jjdisgust
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I am interested in reading more of this link, because right off the bat I see something I have never seen before: the memorandum is addressed to "Members and Affiliates of the Intergalactic Computer Network". I want to know if they're joking about the "Intergalactic" part.
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I am interested in reading more of this link, because right off the bat I see something I have never seen before: the memorandum is addressed to "Members and Affiliates of the Intergalactic Computer Network". I want to know if they're joking about the "Intergalactic" part.
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They weren't joking, they were using it as a tool to persuade their ignorant followers that "the internet didn't exist then".
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Who invented the internet?
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Thats alot of reading. From the looks of it they had computer lauguages and the term software 20 years before the internet. Magnetic storage must of been 3.5 disk, highly doubt USB thumbdrives. What do you make of this Opie?
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I see this sort of ignorance and I weep.
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Yea man
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Thats alot of reading. From the looks of it they had computer lauguages and the term software 20 years before the internet. Magnetic storage must of been 3.5 disk, highly doubt USB thumbdrives. What do you make of this Opie?
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You need more knowledge
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Who invented the internet?
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You mean ARPANET?
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Thats alot of reading. From the looks of it they had computer lauguages and the term software 20 years before the internet. Magnetic storage must of been 3.5 disk, highly doubt USB thumbdrives. What do you make of this Opie?
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I highly suspect (from my personal experience) the medium used were the 5.25" floppy styled disks. Or even possibly cassette tapes.
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Where does Al Gore fit into all this?
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I am interested in reading more of this link, because right off the bat I see something I have never seen before: the memorandum is addressed to "Members and Affiliates of the Intergalactic Computer Network". I want to know if they're joking about the "Intergalactic" part.
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They weren't joking, they were using it as a tool to persuade their ignorant followers that "the internet didn't exist then".
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Actually no joke.

That was the internet was called by the man who invented for the U.S. government. JCR Licklider.
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Thats alot of reading. From the looks of it they had computer lauguages and the term software 20 years before the internet. Magnetic storage must of been 3.5 disk, highly doubt USB thumbdrives. What do you make of this Opie?
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I highly suspect (from my personal experience) the medium used were the 5.25" floppy styled disks. Or even possibly cassette tapes.
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They used both tape and then disk but they were large and heavy encased in plastic - round. From memory I'd guess a couple of feet. The old computers didn't have much internal memory for the most part. Apparently programming one was always a trade off between space or speed. I spent a whole day browsing around the computer museum in the Bay area, Ca. Forget the actual city.

If you are ever in Cali I highly recommend spending a day or two in that museum. I imagine other states may have museums but this was was fantastic! Input was from cards - 80 column using Holerith code and then 96 column using EBDIC long before the 5.25 floppies came about and replaced the cards.

Another interesting thing to see is the old "unit record" machines (the precursors to computers) where they wired huge boards to program them.
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thanks for the info. I just thought the 60s were kind of early
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Think again... in nineteen sixty freaking eight they were talking about things that are new for many TODAY. What are they talking about TODAY, that will be shown to us in 48 years from now??
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[link to drive.google.com (secure)]

Does anyone else find this odd? ARPA documents from 1963 seem to be a rarity and there are things that need to be explained.
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Did you or anyone notice it says:

"(ARPA) Members and Affiliates of the Intergalactic Computer Network"
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[link to drive.google.com (secure)]

Does anyone else find this odd? ARPA documents from 1963 seem to be a rarity and there are things that need to be explained.
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Did you or anyone notice it says:

"(ARPA) Members and Affiliates of the Intergalactic Computer Network"
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Thats alot of reading. From the looks of it they had computer lauguages and the term software 20 years before the internet. Magnetic storage must of been 3.5 disk, highly doubt USB thumbdrives. What do you make of this Opie?
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================================================
I highly suspect (from my personal experience) the medium used were the 5.25" floppy styled disks. Or even possibly cassette tapes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805706


They used both tape and then disk but they were large and heavy encased in plastic - round. From memory I'd guess a couple of feet. The old computers didn't have much internal memory for the most part. Apparently programming one was always a trade off between space or speed. I spent a whole day browsing around the computer museum in the Bay area, Ca. Forget the actual city.

If you are ever in Cali I highly recommend spending a day or two in that museum. I imagine other states may have museums but this was was fantastic! Input was from cards - 80 column using Holerith code and then 96 column using EBDIC long before the 5.25 floppies came about and replaced the cards.

Another interesting thing to see is the old "unit record" machines (the precursors to computers) where they wired huge boards to program them.
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also stacked disk platters 10 disks stacks and 8-foot pneumatic reel to reel tape drives controlled by cyberdyne mainframe cpus.
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I still can't belive that they had the quantum tunneling diode as far back as they did.


Maybe the AI is 50 years ahead and already running it all. That would be cool.
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"Basically, as far as technology is concerned, for every calendar year that transpires, military technology increases about 44.5 years." -Phil Schneider, 1995
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I was taking computer programming courses in Boca Raton in 1971. Used punch cards to program an IBM 620. Similar to the Chad card. The computer was about the size of a van and hummed, whirred and went clickity-clack with little flashing lights. Very impressive at the time. The computer programs were like based on mathematical search and rescue missions to find a needle in a haystack. IBM had a huge facility in Boca Raton. All very exciting stuff. Before that I worked in crypto but I can't talk about that. HAL would come get me.
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Boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring. Before that I worked in crypto but I can't talk about that. HAL would come get me.
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Wtf?
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I am interested in reading more of this link, because right off the bat I see something I have never seen before: the memorandum is addressed to "Members and Affiliates of the Intergalactic Computer Network". I want to know if they're joking about the "Intergalactic" part.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13876338


They weren't joking, they were using it as a tool to persuade their ignorant followers that "the internet didn't exist then".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571


Actually no joke.

That was the internet was called by the man who invented for the U.S. government. JCR Licklider.
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The government and some universities had internet type communications but it was not for the public. The man who invented the internet for the public, was a different thing.

The first or start of a computer was in the late 1880s they say which I have doubts about, it need a power source. They had power then. If you go and look at old invention, you need to put you puzzle thought on it, they're many thing that say we were not told the truth.
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[link to drive.google.com (secure)]

Does anyone else find this odd? ARPA documents from 1963 seem to be a rarity and there are things that need to be explained.
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I don't think that is a document from 1963. The typewriter font in the document is too perfect and solid, nothing like what an actual typewritten document typed with typewriter ribbon would look like

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[link to drive.google.com (secure)]

Does anyone else find this odd? ARPA documents from 1963 seem to be a rarity and there are things that need to be explained.
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I don't think that is a document from 1963. The typewriter font in the document is too perfect and solid, nothing like what an actual typewritten document typed with typewriter ribbon would look like

[link to site.xavier.edu]
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Either way, the document very much sounds like the kind of technical brain storming that might have happened at ARPA back in 1963.

At the time, every computing institution around the world operated more or less on an individual basis, not only creating their own programs, but also their own programming languages and operating systems.

The NEW IDEA was to connect these computer centers together, but how would they communicate? What would be the basic technical requirements for digital communication?

They likened this problem with communicating with aliens, since it is about translating between vastly different languages and cultures, with no fundamental layer of understanding to build on.

That was indeed a seemingly insurmountable problem back in 1963. It was eventually solved by making computers more similar.
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Thats alot of reading. From the looks of it they had computer lauguages and the term software 20 years before the internet. Magnetic storage must of been 3.5 disk, highly doubt USB thumbdrives. What do you make of this Opie?
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I see this sort of ignorance and I weep.
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