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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71186991 United States03/10/2016 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How is it that Ammon Bundy and his group can get the book thrown at them by the government yet this group [link to youtu.be (secure)] can recruit...kill...and join domestic police departments?  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 51481924 United States03/10/2016 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am trying to get some things straight for people as to how the feds operate. They often come back around with firearms charges, even on top of state charges. I saw this happen. The feds love to go after people who haven a gun if they are convicted. This was back in the late 1990s already. I agree they are going to give the guys hefty sentences. I thought this would happen. Once I saw Cliven's arrested, I knew what the deal was. This is political persecution for sure, but I am just relaying how they operate. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 64875558 United States03/10/2016 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to talkingpointsmemo.com] Quoting: ^^Mountain Woman^^ It is hard to believe, but Ammon Bundy and others are being indicted on new charges of firearms possession which carries a life sentence. I believe this is the start of gun confiscation...the taking away of our Second Amendment Rights. It will start with these protestors from the Malheur Wildlife Refuge standoff. If you can believe it, these men are looking at life in prison. LINK: The new charges come as the government cracks down on Bundy, his family and others for leading armed standoffs in a long-running dispute over management of public lands in the Western U.S. Federal authorities have charged Bundy's father, Cliven Bundy, and several others in recent months with conspiracy, assault and threats in a 2014 armed standoff over grazing rights near the patriarch's Nevada ranch. In a packed courtroom in Portland, the younger Bundy and others pleaded not guilty to the new allegations Wednesday. All 26 defendants were previously charged with conspiracy to impede officers of the United States. Ammon Bundy's attorneys told the judge that he wanted to be advised of his rights. U.S. District Court Judge Anna Brown denied the request, noting that they were read at three prior court appearances. "I know I have no rights, so thank you," Bundy said. the judge is a clinton appointee amazing co-inky dink how the clintons names are always popping up regarding this situation man 8 years of her rubio or cruz....things wont go well... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71536982 United States03/10/2016 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to talkingpointsmemo.com] Quoting: ^^Mountain Woman^^ It is hard to believe, but Ammon Bundy and others are being indicted on new charges of firearms possession which carries a life sentence. I believe this is the start of gun confiscation...the taking away of our Second Amendment Rights. It will start with these protestors from the Malheur Wildlife Refuge standoff. If you can believe it, these men are looking at life in prison. LINK: The new charges come as the government cracks down on Bundy, his family and others for leading armed standoffs in a long-running dispute over management of public lands in the Western U.S. Federal authorities have charged Bundy's father, Cliven Bundy, and several others in recent months with conspiracy, assault and threats in a 2014 armed standoff over grazing rights near the patriarch's Nevada ranch. In a packed courtroom in Portland, the younger Bundy and others pleaded not guilty to the new allegations Wednesday. All 26 defendants were previously charged with conspiracy to impede officers of the United States. Ammon Bundy's attorneys told the judge that he wanted to be advised of his rights. U.S. District Court Judge Anna Brown denied the request, noting that they were read at three prior court appearances. "I know I have no rights, so thank you," Bundy said. the judge is a clinton appointee amazing co-inky dink how the clintons names are always popping up regarding this situation man 8 years of her rubio or cruz....things wont go well... If there is another s-election, they will install Hitlary. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71486987 United States03/10/2016 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am trying to get some things straight for people as to how the feds operate. They often come back around with firearms charges, even on top of state charges. I saw this happen. The feds love to go after people who haven a gun if they are convicted. This was back in the late 1990s already. I agree they are going to give the guys hefty sentences. I thought this would happen. Once I saw Cliven's arrested, I knew what the deal was. This is political persecution for sure, but I am just relaying how they operate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51481924 Thank you. My heart goes out to these men. If only they had not been armed in the protest. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71486987 United States03/10/2016 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to talkingpointsmemo.com] Quoting: ^^Mountain Woman^^ It is hard to believe, but Ammon Bundy and others are being indicted on new charges of firearms possession which carries a life sentence. I believe this is the start of gun confiscation...the taking away of our Second Amendment Rights. It will start with these protestors from the Malheur Wildlife Refuge standoff. If you can believe it, these men are looking at life in prison. LINK: The new charges come as the government cracks down on Bundy, his family and others for leading armed standoffs in a long-running dispute over management of public lands in the Western U.S. Federal authorities have charged Bundy's father, Cliven Bundy, and several others in recent months with conspiracy, assault and threats in a 2014 armed standoff over grazing rights near the patriarch's Nevada ranch. In a packed courtroom in Portland, the younger Bundy and others pleaded not guilty to the new allegations Wednesday. All 26 defendants were previously charged with conspiracy to impede officers of the United States. Ammon Bundy's attorneys told the judge that he wanted to be advised of his rights. U.S. District Court Judge Anna Brown denied the request, noting that they were read at three prior court appearances. "I know I have no rights, so thank you," Bundy said. the judge is a clinton appointee amazing co-inky dink how the clintons names are always popping up regarding this situation man 8 years of her rubio or cruz....things wont go well... Makes sense. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71486987 United States03/10/2016 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ammon is more correct than he may even understand rigth now. I often have compared state and federal courts to the Soviet kangaroo courts, so those in charge can say they went through the motions. It is sad. There is no way around this short of just busting them loose. Cliven should have never left the ranch for Portland. I wish the Bundy's and Lavoy had not been talked into this. They should had the standoff at their ranches. The BLM was already sabotaging Lavoy's Ranch like cowards. I have watched some of Lavoy's you tubes from last year he was posting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71536982 You are so right. If they were going to take over the Refuge, they should have not been armed. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70491268 United States03/10/2016 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ammon is more correct than he may even understand rigth now. I often have compared state and federal courts to the Soviet kangaroo courts, so those in charge can say they went through the motions. It is sad. There is no way around this short of just busting them loose. Cliven should have never left the ranch for Portland. I wish the Bundy's and Lavoy had not been talked into this. They should had the standoff at their ranches. The BLM was already sabotaging Lavoy's Ranch like cowards. I have watched some of Lavoy's you tubes from last year he was posting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71536982 Any one who watches Lavoys videos should have no problem understanding the shit these ranchers are being put through. But get a good look, because they will use thiese same tactics anywhere they want to take over. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70491268 United States03/10/2016 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ammon is more correct than he may even understand rigth now. I often have compared state and federal courts to the Soviet kangaroo courts, so those in charge can say they went through the motions. It is sad. There is no way around this short of just busting them loose. Cliven should have never left the ranch for Portland. I wish the Bundy's and Lavoy had not been talked into this. They should had the standoff at their ranches. The BLM was already sabotaging Lavoy's Ranch like cowards. I have watched some of Lavoy's you tubes from last year he was posting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71536982 You are so right. If they were going to take over the Refuge, they should have not been armed. I agree. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71486987 United States03/10/2016 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ammon is more correct than he may even understand rigth now. I often have compared state and federal courts to the Soviet kangaroo courts, so those in charge can say they went through the motions. It is sad. There is no way around this short of just busting them loose. Cliven should have never left the ranch for Portland. I wish the Bundy's and Lavoy had not been talked into this. They should had the standoff at their ranches. The BLM was already sabotaging Lavoy's Ranch like cowards. I have watched some of Lavoy's you tubes from last year he was posting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71536982 Any one who watches Lavoys videos should have no problem understanding the shit these ranchers are being put through. But get a good look, because they will use thiese same tactics anywhere they want to take over. I have done a lot of research on this, and it is Agenda 21. All of our land has been sold out from under our feet. We as citizens own nothing. China owns more land here in the US than we do. |
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot  User ID: 49311670 United States03/10/2016 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am trying to get some things straight for people as to how the feds operate. They often come back around with firearms charges, even on top of state charges. I saw this happen. The feds love to go after people who haven a gun if they are convicted. This was back in the late 1990s already. I agree they are going to give the guys hefty sentences. I thought this would happen. Once I saw Cliven's arrested, I knew what the deal was. This is political persecution for sure, but I am just relaying how they operate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51481924 Yea this. If the fed can throw a gun charge they drool. It serves multiple purposes. It acts as the actual charge and strengthens the position for gun regulation. I have said this for a while but we will probably not hear from these guys until everyone has forgotten who they are. The fed can not allow them to be poster boys for the movement that opposes the BLM and got away with it. Now I am interested in hearing what Cliven is being charged with. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Certain things, they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone. |
| Whiskey Tango Foxtrot User ID: 49311670 United States03/10/2016 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am surprised these people have such little support from other Americans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71415673 People are afraid to give it. I think this will be the last thread I will be doing on this topic...no one seems to be interested. MW this topic is probably the most important on glp right now. We are a country in debt collection and the only thing tangible we have is land natural resources. Those are being liquidated to make interest payments in my opinion. This is the underlying issue beneath everything that can go wrong at the moment. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Certain things, they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71486987 United States03/10/2016 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am trying to get some things straight for people as to how the feds operate. They often come back around with firearms charges, even on top of state charges. I saw this happen. The feds love to go after people who haven a gun if they are convicted. This was back in the late 1990s already. I agree they are going to give the guys hefty sentences. I thought this would happen. Once I saw Cliven's arrested, I knew what the deal was. This is political persecution for sure, but I am just relaying how they operate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51481924 Yea this. If the fed can throw a gun charge they drool. It serves multiple purposes. It acts as the actual charge and strengthens the position for gun regulation. I have said this for a while but we will probably not hear from these guys until everyone has forgotten who they are. The fed can not allow them to be poster boys for the movement that opposes the BLM and got away with it. Now I am interested in hearing what Cliven is being charged with. He cannot be charged in the Malheur occupation...they got him for his Nevada standoff. They say he will die in prison. He should never have flown into Oregon, but I think his heart was breaking for his sons. |
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| NVG User ID: 276236 United States03/10/2016 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MW, as I've stated in the past, I appreciate ur post. It seems we value things that are similar. These events from Bundy Standoff to MWR Occupation is a great "training exercise" for the alphabet agencies. The only thing is they waited for event to unwind and now are arresting individuals instead of groups. With the groups, they knew bloodshed would be inevitable. Now, either if you agree or disagree with how these armed/unarmed individuals went about getting their message across to gov officials is not what is important. What IS important is the fact these agencies will punish ANYONE who stands up for their beliefs (Right or wrong) and against the ass clowns in charge. I have written my local state rep and senator to express my frustration/disbelief in the atrocities our gov has bestowed upon it's citizens. Keep up the good work, NVG |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71574329 United States03/10/2016 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am surprised these people have such little support from other Americans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71415673 People are afraid to give it. I think this will be the last thread I will be doing on this topic...no one seems to be interested. MW this topic is probably the most important on glp right now. We are a country in debt collection and the only thing tangible we have is land natural resources. Those are being liquidated to make interest payments in my opinion. This is the underlying issue beneath everything that can go wrong at the moment. Being looted for natural resources just like in Africa enjoy the 3rd world but remember your own parents and grandparents sold you out before you were born. The debt they thought nothing about will be repaid by you and your children. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71486987 United States03/10/2016 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MW, as I've stated in the past, I appreciate ur post. It seems we value things that are similar. These events from Bundy Standoff to MWR Occupation is a great "training exercise" for the alphabet agencies. The only thing is they waited for event to unwind and now are arresting individuals instead of groups. With the groups, they knew bloodshed would be inevitable. Now, either if you agree or disagree with how these armed/unarmed individuals went about getting their message across to gov officials is not what is important. What IS important is the fact these agencies will punish ANYONE who stands up for their beliefs (Right or wrong) and against the ass clowns in charge. I have written my local state rep and senator to express my frustration/disbelief in the atrocities our gov has bestowed upon it's citizens. Quoting: NVG Keep up the good work, NVG Thank you, NVG. I will try. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71486987 United States03/10/2016 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am surprised these people have such little support from other Americans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71415673 People are afraid to give it. I think this will be the last thread I will be doing on this topic...no one seems to be interested. MW this topic is probably the most important on glp right now. We are a country in debt collection and the only thing tangible we have is land natural resources. Those are being liquidated to make interest payments in my opinion. This is the underlying issue beneath everything that can go wrong at the moment. Being looted for natural resources just like in Africa enjoy the 3rd world but remember your own parents and grandparents sold you out before you were born. The debt they thought nothing about will be repaid by you and your children. True, and it is very depressing and seemingly hopeless. Judgement Day is coming, and when the Good Lord steps on this Good Green Earth, we will never be abused again. |
| Whiskey Tango Foxtrot User ID: 49311670 United States03/10/2016 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am surprised these people have such little support from other Americans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71415673 People are afraid to give it. I think this will be the last thread I will be doing on this topic...no one seems to be interested. MW this topic is probably the most important on glp right now. We are a country in debt collection and the only thing tangible we have is land natural resources. Those are being liquidated to make interest payments in my opinion. This is the underlying issue beneath everything that can go wrong at the moment. Being looted for natural resources just like in Africa enjoy the 3rd world but remember your own parents and grandparents sold you out before you were born. The debt they thought nothing about will be repaid by you and your children. Oh I agree. We still do it today. Just keep borrowing money like the bill never comes due. We learn nothing. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Certain things, they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone. |
| Whiskey Tango Foxtrot User ID: 49311670 United States03/10/2016 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am trying to get some things straight for people as to how the feds operate. They often come back around with firearms charges, even on top of state charges. I saw this happen. The feds love to go after people who haven a gun if they are convicted. This was back in the late 1990s already. I agree they are going to give the guys hefty sentences. I thought this would happen. Once I saw Cliven's arrested, I knew what the deal was. This is political persecution for sure, but I am just relaying how they operate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51481924 Yea this. If the fed can throw a gun charge they drool. It serves multiple purposes. It acts as the actual charge and strengthens the position for gun regulation. I have said this for a while but we will probably not hear from these guys until everyone has forgotten who they are. The fed can not allow them to be poster boys for the movement that opposes the BLM and got away with it. Now I am interested in hearing what Cliven is being charged with. He cannot be charged in the Malheur occupation...they got him for his Nevada standoff. They say he will die in prison. He should never have flown into Oregon, but I think his heart was breaking for his sons. I am sure he was upset. I really wish he would have stayed put. Let me ask though. How were they able to charge him there and not in nevada? Is the actual arrest due to his previous standoff or conspiracy in oregon? I don't understand why they wouldnt have picked him up in nevada. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Certain things, they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone. |
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