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for no particular reason: a study on the rape of Dinah

 
jesskeira Kadwalladeyr
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for no particular reason: a study on the rape of Dinah
I just felt like sharing this here.

I read this and these two things in particular stood out to me and would be interested in any feedback on it and opinions and reactions anyone would be willing to give.

far less than fifty:

The brevity of the report on rape is typical for many rape narratives. Some object that Dinah should have spoken so that we would understand her feelings. But are they not clear? No woman wants to be raped.

and this

The brothers of Dinah hear about their sister when they return home from their day’s work (verse 7a). In contrast to their father Jacob, who did not respond immediately (verse 5), the brothers react strongly. Two highly unusual and expressive verbs describe their reaction: “They grieved, and they were very depressed” (verse 7bc). The first verb “to grieve” appears only one more time in the Bible. Just prior to the flood story, Genesis 6:6 uses the same verb to state that God reacted to the evil of humankind with great grief: “and it grieved him [Yahweh] to his heart” (NRSV). When interpreters reflected on Genesis 6:6, they underlined the depth and profundity of the divine grief. U. Cassuto writes, “Man’s deeds and the thoughts of his heart (verse 5) bring grief to the heart of the Lord”. Nahum Sarna states, “God’s decision is made in sorrow, not in anger”. Walter Brueggemann offers one of the most elaborate explanations for Genesis 6:6: “Verse 6 shows us the deep pathos of God. God is not angered but grieved. He is not enraged but saddened.” Further, the “narrative is centered in the grief of God. What distinguishes God in this narrative from every other god and from every creature is God’s deep grief. That grief enables God to move past his own interests”. [28] Relating this assessment of the grief to Genesis 34:7 deepens the appreciation for the fraternal response. As God grieved over the creation, so the brothers grieve over Dinah’s rape. They will not tolerate a wedding between the rapist and their sister.

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Still, the brothers’ final question in verse 31 demonstrates the complexity of their attempt to deal with the rape. After Jacob’s accusation in verse 30, which mentions only the trouble his sons bring to him and his house, the brothers continue to focus on Dinah and her well being. They ask whether Shechem has a right to treat their sister like a prostitute. Interpreters sometimes wonder why the brothers refer to prostitution and not to rape. However, their question makes sense when prostitution is understood as a means to financial gain. Shechem offers a sum of money, the customary bride price, and assumes that he so fulfills his obligations as a bridegroom. The brothers, however, do not isolate the marriage offer from the rape. They refuse to sell Dinah into marriage because they do not seek economic advantage. They understand that Shechem seeks to pay for the rape, euphemistically calling his payment “bride price” (verse 12). Shechem attempts to turn rape into legalized sex. However, Dinah is not a prostitute who offers sexual favors and then receives payment. Given after the rape, the money is not like a bride price. The brothers reject the possibility that Shechem would repair his deed through payment. Dinah cannot be traded for economic gain. The brothers insist on Dinah’s dignity.

from here:

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Re: for no particular reason: a study on the rape of Dinah
I think that many if not all of the stories in Genesis set the stage for the following 4000 years.

Unfortunately, details are often lacking.
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Re: for no particular reason: a study on the rape of Dinah
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His judgement cometh and that right soon
It's Satan's time--beware the Luciferians--their goal is elimination of all except followers of Satan
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Re: for no particular reason: a study on the rape of Dinah
I think that many if not all of the stories in Genesis set the stage for the following 4000 years.

Unfortunately, details are often lacking.
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because they were hidden or twisted or destroyed.

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Re: for no particular reason: a study on the rape of Dinah
Christianity is disgusting. These ancient patriarchal stories are disgusting. Let's all collectively move on from them, and the damage they do to modern women, shall we?
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Re: for no particular reason: a study on the rape of Dinah
yeah, it's time to get rid of what no longer serves me. There is better things to study than how the original stories of long ago have been changed to suit an ulterior purpose.
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Re: for no particular reason: a study on the rape of Dinah
I was thinking about that too, and wars began because of that.

also Tamar

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Re: for no particular reason: a study on the rape of Dinah
Yes, it is time to lay that false bible to rest. It has done far too much harm.

I am ready for better stories and better gods than that messed up false one of raped and murdered and shamed women.

Even the precious 'yeshua'..

he only consented to give a 'crumb' of a miracle to a foreign woman after she had to grovel.

after all, humiliation of women IS what it's all about. always, in that book.

there is no love in it after all. JUst stolen words from another faith put into it to draw converts

the 'jesus hook'.


it's a torture one. a bloody painful lie that needs to die forever and quit doing so much harm.

Last Edited by JessKira Kadwalladyr on 03/20/2016 12:53 AM





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