what is gravity

A curvature of spacetime itself.

Gravity is not a force-field like electromagnetism is.

Imagine you have an object moving in a straight line on a grid. Now you bend that grid, so the straight line curves. That is gravity. The object has to follow the grid to be moving in a straight line, so the object curves too.

So the space itself curves, and therefore any object in that space must curve as well.

If you look at the magnetic map of earth lets asume the highly magnetic bits of the globe have denser material under it like iron if you weighed your self their you will nudge your weighing scales a tad higher than if in a place that has less dense material under it ie less magnetic force

Is space time like the partical wave thing with light .

The curve is only apparent when a very large mass sits on it or in it

I am suspecting that its of electrical magnatisim. Its a by product of one ore both moving through i dialectric a body of any size

So then what is F=ma... I don't buy the above.

You are correct.

Thanks


We just need to flesh it out a bit

A lie to help explain the bigger lies. Gravity doesn't exist.

Is the answer to gravity the byproduct of us sat in the curved space of our star with with our mass creating its own dimple on the all ready curved space.


Now its time to look at mars and venus and check mag field strength,
Distance, or see if its spesiffic gravity ( odd term here) density has a barring on the gravity attracting force felt locally on its body.


A few yrs back the cosmic nerds said gravity is so weak its more a repelling force on a cosmic scale. Which is getting me suspect its electrical and magnetic

Mr newton called this force gravity that pulls stuff to the body we reside on

But are we looking at a transmutation of electricity magnetisim to induce attraction to the larger body

the fifth dimension

The above is an example of what is commonly called "disinformation".

Gravity is an electrical effect, due to some slight imbalance in the atomic charges that is not noticeable unless one or both of the objects are very massive.

A lot of stupid in this thread...

Do any of you people actually understand science? Or do you just assume it is a conspiracy because you can't understand the science? People on GLP tend to think anything they don't understand is a conspiracy.

What I posted has a lot of REAL scientific proof to back it up. And is what Einstein and several other REAL scientists believe.

Of course, since this is GLP, you probably think they were all "shills" spreading lies.

If you can post some REAL SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE proving me wrong, do it!

:)

Don't just pull some crackpot theory out of your ass with nothing to back it up.

Electrical magnetism is well understood, with many proofs.

Gravity is the opposite. We know a few things-
It bends space.
It cometh from mass.
It weakens as a square of its distance.
It affects all materials.

Magnetism only effects ferrous metals.
This is why we aren't torn to pieces in an MRI machine.
Take off your watch!

"... What I posted has a lot of REAL scientific proof to back it up. And is what Einstein and several other REAL scientists believe. ..."

Argument by appeal to authority. Unfortunately, some of those "authorities" have been losing their credibility recently as the true electrical nature of the universe is being revealed.

But sci-fi ("black holes", "dark matter", "warped space-time", etc) sells and keeps the general population in awe of sci-fi authors (like Mr Einstein).

I don't know, I spent countless hours of my childhood reading about physics, relativity, quantum physics, etc. I bet I know more about it than most people on GLP, who tend to just make up what seems to make sense to them, or regurgitate what other posters write.

People love thinking EVERYTHING is a conspiracy.

It does make sense to me, although it is not a perfect explanation of reality. We are far away from that.

For all we know, thus could be a simulation and gravity is just a program to make the simulation work properly. But that is not testable by science, so I wouldn't bring it up in a science thread.

When you bring up random theories that have no proof, it's no better than talking about God. I believe in God, but I keep unprovable theories out of science discussions.

Science, by definition, is about things that can be and have been proven experimentally. And I have never seen any experimental data saying gravity is electric. I have seen plenty of data saying it is a bend in spacetime.

If gravity was electric, it would solve one of the biggest physics problems: unifying quantum mechanics with gravity.

SO if you were right, you would have a scientific breakthrough on your hands. I really don;t think you do.

But keep believing it if it makes you feel better. I'll stick with real science.

Also, electrically neutral objects are still affected by gravity. How do you explain that? Electrically neutral objects don't magically float away.

In fact, neutron stars have a massive gravitational pull and are made completely of neutrons.

Regular atoms are mostly empty space with a few particles orbiting a nucleus.
Neutron stars are like one big nucleus, a solid mass with no empty space.
It is said one tablespoon of neutron star stuff (Carl Sagan) would weigh as much as Mt Everest. A star 3 times the size of the Sun has to collapse down to a few hundred miles (and usually less) in diameter to squeeze off all its electrons to this neutron only state.

Neutron stars (if true) are gravitational powerhouses.

Yup. And are completely electrically neutral, proving that gravity has nothing to do with electromagnetism.

It's a bend in spacetime caused by a lot of mass in one place.

It's a balancing force that acts as the opposite of energy: energy pushes away, gravity attracts. Gravity has to exist, to balance all of the energy released by the big bang.

Let see if we can nail this force or terms of atraction.

If the escape velocity of earth is 11 miles a minute and gravity has a 9.8 force asuming 9.8 miles a minute will induce a stall..

With this force being inverse2 do we need less force speed the higher we are to escape the clutches of earth

If a spaceship could just maintain thrust, in space, greater than it's own weight, even by only a few pounds, it could leave Earth and sail off into interstellar space.
Our rocketry is all violent, millions of pounds of fuel used to get some upward momentum, to accelerate to a speed where we can coast away from Earth. Coast. Out of fuel.

The future spaceships won't rely on blasting off and multi-gee rides up to orbit. They'll take off like airplanes and just keep on climbing out.
The engine and fuel are what we lack.

Permanent thrust is beyond our science. We always run outta gas.

Mass and dimensionality are the same thing but in a different state

The mass state pulls and compresses dimensionality

Two masses each pull on dimensionality which shortens there apparent distance to an observer. This also causes them to move closer absolutely through the sea of the dimensionality state

What interesting curves that could make on a graph against time like light weight and gental escape to heavy and over in minutes .

Could electro static work against this force we call gravity.

If so electricity and potential difference is what we should look at

Lets see where this goes whats a dimention .

Is it the difference between all dimples in space time flat or curved and is gravity a potential difference of the 2 strongest bodies local or to include others as they are close while orbitting the larger force

Just another dimension things move through...

It just happens to always move one way and one speed for us.

mass

Time is may be part of the equation but hold that back for a bit.

I have thought a bout time and the greate ages of the universe and griping things like red shift.

Looked at it and now with space based stuff they have a scale of 0 to 10
To confuse me but on the whole the cl9ser to the edge higher the number.

All i can come up with is the speed of light was faster in the past E=MC2

Energy is the constant not the C which could make masses lighter on a relative scale

Good call everything has nutrons


On my last post i sugest if light was faster in the early universe its far younger than we see as the yard stick to measure by is the C2 we see now and aply it universe wide with no corection factor and may litle understanding of at what points to apply and how great a number other than may be red shift plus C

TIME is the passage of events in a linear parade.
Were there no events, there would be no time.
Time can be measured, but not quantified or traveled within.
Prisoners of time, that's what we are.