Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 975 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 95,762
Pageviews Today: 231,697Threads Today: 115Posts Today: 2,289
05:11 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:25 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Go forth Soldier. Sit back and whine or make a fucking difference. Be legendY. O little one
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68606831
United States
03/23/2016 04:33 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Only the one who digs will know. all is there.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
I think the best thing anyone can do for a veteran today is simply listen to them if they have something to beef about with the va system. Because sometimes the worst feeling in the world is simply that of not being heard.

and for all so many veterans have given, and some gave all..

they deserve so much more than that. so much more than they are getting.

perhaps to even accompany a veteran as they attempt to navigate the system in it's complexity at times would help..
 Quoting: jesskeira Kadwalladeyr


No one 'deserves' a thing. I support the Soldiers proudly, but when a certain group or person says the 'deserve' something it creates a much less likable response.

In all reality, heads need to roll to make a change. Revolution type of thinking. Could the state of AMERICA be more fucked up than it is right now.? Probably, but is your cause worth your life, your family or your buddies life. I have my set of 'would die for' morals, Do you have anothether set? Because the first one didn't work out . Thanks for your service Soldier.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Only the one who digs will know. all is there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68606831


It's irrelevant in creating change for your cause. THEY DONT CARE
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68606831
United States
03/23/2016 04:37 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
and no not cruz.

they haven't brokered yet so no one knows who is a candidate.
Five Star Bandit
Just a Watcher on the Wall

User ID: 61668105
United States
03/23/2016 04:39 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
as if anymore was ever needed.

but yeah...

less than fifty..just the start and finish, but the meat of the story is at the link. No fury at this...just a pissed off resignation that the endless battle is truly against the bullshit red tape and utter indifference of bureaucracy.

The Department of Veterans Affairs is suspending the head of the Veterans Benefits Administration for allowing two lower-ranking officials to manipulate the agency's hiring system for their own gain.

Deputy VA Secretary Sloan Gibson says acting VBA chief Danny Pummill will be suspended without pay for 15 days for his role in a relocation scam that has roiled the agency for months.

Pummill failed to exercise proper oversight as Kimberly Graves and Diana Rubens forced lower-ranking managers to accept job transfers and then stepped into the vacant positions themselves, keeping their senior-level pay while reducing their responsibilities, Gibson said Tuesday.

Pummill is one of VA's five highest-ranking officials and leads VBA's employees across 56 regional offices nationwide that provide compensation and pension benefits, life insurance, home loans and other services to millions of veterans.



and..

Accountability at the VA "is almost non-existent," Miller said. "One thing is clear: this dysfunctional status quo will never change until we eliminate arcane civil service rules that put the job security of VA bureaucrats ahead of the veterans they are charged with serving."

[link to www.wtol.com]
 Quoting: jesskeira Kadwalladeyr


Years ago I worked as an outsider (bed fixer guy) and one of our clients was the VA. It was a running joke that you'd spend the entire day there because either "everyone" was in charge or "no one" was in charge. in other words either everyone spent their days contradicting the last person who asked you to do something or everyone spent their days avoiding being the last name to sign your work order.

Meanwhile the veteran lay there getting bed sores because nobody cared about 'that part'. They just needed to get the paperwork done.

Really pathetic.

Last Edited by Subway Prophets on 03/23/2016 04:40 PM
"Sir, are you classified as human?"

"Negative. I am a meat-popsicle."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:39 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
It doesn't matter any way. You get my point. I see your struggle. Jessica wants us to listen. We listen. But that accomplishes nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Terrebonne

User ID: 71701073
United States
03/23/2016 04:39 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
387,000 died waiting for care out of 800,000
22-30 suicide a day
100 accidental deaths a day ... my guess

Now please find out the VAMC mortality rates while you're at it. They are hidden even from the CDC. I researched it myself.
 Quoting: ExposingJane


There isn't anything the vets can do to rectify this problem. The government has made it nearly impossible to sue for malpractices damages. I've been in the system for a number of years and things went downhill after Obama was elected.

.
INFJ; We are the protectors; One Percent of the population.

We put a lot of energy into identifying the best system for getting things done, and constantly define and re-define the priorities.

We know things intuitively, without being able to pinpoint why, and without detailed knowledge of the subject at hand. We are usually right, and we usually know it.

[link to www.personalitypage.com]

.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Pathetic, DC is Pathetic. They decided this with of sound mind with their pork in hand
Ms. Superduper

User ID: 70651884
United States
03/23/2016 04:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
I don't know why anyone in this day would join the military to fight for the Bankers. At one time, it was different, I think, of course.

In my opinion, we need all of the help we can get right here in the U.S.A. Since, you know, we have all of the "migrants". Love that word. What a crock.
Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world.

Whatever feels good to your soul, do that.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
387,000 died waiting for care out of 800,000
22-30 suicide a day
100 accidental deaths a day ... my guess

Now please find out the VAMC mortality rates while you're at it. They are hidden even from the CDC. I researched it myself.
 Quoting: ExposingJane


There isn't anything the vets can do to rectify this problem. The government has made it nearly impossible to sue for malpractices damages. I've been in the system for a number of years and things went downhill after Obama was elected.

.
 Quoting: Terrebonne


Just the way they dreamed it up.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:43 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
I don't know why anyone in this day would join the military to fight for the Bankers. At one time, it was different, I think, of course.

In my opinion, we need all of the help we can get right here in the U.S.A. Since, you know, we have all of the "migrants". Love that word. What a crock.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


They will draft if need be. And they will. You are correct the guise of fight for freedom is over
jesskeira Kadwalladeyr  (OP)

User ID: 70558820
United States
03/23/2016 04:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
It doesn't matter any way. You get my point. I see your struggle. Jessica wants us to listen. We listen. But that accomplishes nothing. Absolutely nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68540314


oh bullshit.

if one veteran feels listened to, maybe that one veteran will be less prone to want to go and jump of a bridge today.

I think that's fuckig worth it for that reason alone.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
387,000 died waiting for care out of 800,000
22-30 suicide a day
100 accidental deaths a day ... my guess

Now please find out the VAMC mortality rates while you're at it. They are hidden even from the CDC. I researched it myself.
 Quoting: ExposingJane


There isn't anything the vets can do to rectify this problem. The government has made it nearly impossible to sue for malpractices damages. I've been in the system for a number of years and things went downhill after Obama was elected.

.
 Quoting: Terrebonne


If their was ever something Real to fight for it is this and future generations of Soldiers. Take that for whatever you think it means
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:47 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
It doesn't matter any way. You get my point. I see your struggle. Jessica wants us to listen. We listen. But that accomplishes nothing. Absolutely nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68540314


oh bullshit.

if one veteran feels listened to, maybe that one veteran will be less prone to want to go and jump of a bridge today.

I think that's fuckig worth it for that reason alone.
 Quoting: jesskeira Kadwalladeyr


You missed my point, I listen, to everyone. With empathy. I was speaking along the lines of creating real change in the bigger issue
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 70906791
United States
03/23/2016 04:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Fifteen days without pay? Big deal! They all should be fired. End of playtime for all of them. They are not trustworthy individuals and their pictures and deeds should be posted throughout the web.
 Quoting: Bluebird1 66433951


All government agencies are like this.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 70467970
United States
03/23/2016 04:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Why do so many people need the VA should be the question, let's sends 1000's more to fight other peoples 1300 year old religious wars and get there limbs blown off and brains rattled in various way's for what they call freedom in the USA...they are sent into the desert and muslim cities for our freedom here while our government lets the same people were fighting into this county by the 100's of 1000's..

AND besides all that there are the regular every day reason everyone flocks to the doctor, Im 52 and can count on my 2 hands all the time i've been to the doctor in my life and 3 of them were since i was 25.

AND there are all the sue happy people, suing for this suing for that and the corruption in fees, charges and insurance scams...It Goes On ANd On ANd On..

Build more hospitals and have vets go to regular hospitals just like all of us and the government needs to pay there goddam bills for giving life and limb for them...


I am sure all politicians have a fast track way to all the best health care, that needs to end to and they need to life like the rest of us People.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Jess, you create a tingling in my senses when I read about you. What is your deal. My gut tells
Terrebonne

User ID: 71701073
United States
03/23/2016 04:53 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
They will draft if need be. And they will. You are correct the guise of fight for freedom is over
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68540314


They will never reinstate the draft, 3/4 of the young people are not physical fit or on some prescribe drug. Which is disqualifying for military service.

.
INFJ; We are the protectors; One Percent of the population.

We put a lot of energy into identifying the best system for getting things done, and constantly define and re-define the priorities.

We know things intuitively, without being able to pinpoint why, and without detailed knowledge of the subject at hand. We are usually right, and we usually know it.

[link to www.personalitypage.com]

.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
I live in the New Orleans area. The largest VA Hospital in Amerivca was just completed. Does that mean incompetence will go away? No
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:56 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Terrebone , I was there yesterday. Parish.

The draft is always alive and ready. Where do you get this never will draft idea
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 04:59 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Americas youth? Give them one of those reprogramming vaccinations (of the many) and watch his muscles grow , his agility increase and his drive flourish... I have pics of friend in Iraq and they are all 3 times the size they were before and are now.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 05:01 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
His entire Platoon looked like employees at GMC. Why is that?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 05:02 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Americas youth? Give them one of those reprogramming vaccinations (of the many) and watch his muscles grow , his agility increase and his drive flourish... I have pics of friend in Iraq and they are all 3 times the size they were before and are now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68540314


Of my friends, those guys with the sudden muscles are deal with ptsd more than any others.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 05:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Get back to me about the sudden muscle syndrome I asked about
Terrebonne

User ID: 71701073
United States
03/23/2016 05:07 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
I live in the New Orleans area. The largest VA Hospital in Amerivca was just completed. Does that mean incompetence will go away? No. The draft is always alive and ready. Where do you get this never will draft idea?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68540314


Do your own research, the information is out there.

Up to 75 Percent of US Youth Ineligible for Military Service

[link to usgovinfo.about.com]

Pentagon: 7 in 10 Youths Would Fail to Qualify for Military Service

[link to time.com]

.

Last Edited by Terrebonne on 03/23/2016 05:09 PM
INFJ; We are the protectors; One Percent of the population.

We put a lot of energy into identifying the best system for getting things done, and constantly define and re-define the priorities.

We know things intuitively, without being able to pinpoint why, and without detailed knowledge of the subject at hand. We are usually right, and we usually know it.

[link to www.personalitypage.com]

.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 05:11 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
I live in the New Orleans area. The largest VA Hospital in Amerivca was just completed. Does that mean incompetence will go away? No. The draft is always alive and ready. Where do you get this never will draft idea?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68540314


Do your own research, the information is out there.

Up to 75 Percent of US Youth Ineligible for Military Service

[link to usgovinfo.about.com]

Pentagon: 7 in 10 Youths Would Fail to Qualify for Military Service

[link to time.com]

.
 Quoting: Terrebonne


Compare that to actual enrollment statistics,... You have nothing.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 71864367
United States
03/23/2016 05:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Many people are on the fence about supporting vets.
While many of the vets are well meaning citizens and deserve all the help they can get the military doesn't care to filter the bad vets from the good vets.
Without filtering them as heros or despicable people and separating the cream from the curd too many people are beginning to just not care about the group as a whole.

This all began shortly after Vietnam.
The problem? I'll explain.

You see when anyone during their military service commits a sex offense against another soldier or even a foreign child or person the military handles it internally, secretly keeping the facts from American civilians.

While people froth at the mouth over a civilian Sex offender or Pedo they will never find out which vets are good wholesome people and which vets are offenders.

The vet that just got a free new house, the vet that lives right next door to you or maybe even under your roof might be a sex offender and you will never know about it until it is too late.

Too many people are awake now to the facts and until the "good vets" also join in to out the offenders records and demand them to become public (like listed on your local pedophile/offender web sites to mother's can protect their children... Too many people now look down on all vets as a whole.

Everyone should write their congressman and demand the bed vets be filtered out and posted as offenders so the good vets can be helped and praised as they deserve.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 05:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
Your telling me that 25% of youth is ready for the Military? Of those percentages how many see combat. How many actually make it through BT of those enrolled. . Those percentages are a fucking disgrace being from the Military. All they did was give us the OTHER percentages... The civilian %. Bryansk for those ummm facts buddy. Keep buying into what the Military tells you
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 68540314
United States
03/23/2016 05:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Proof the VA does not give a fuck about vets
I live in the New Orleans area. The largest VA Hospital in Amerivca was just completed. Does that mean incompetence will go away? No. The draft is always alive and ready. Where do you get this never will draft idea?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68540314


Do your own research, the information is out there.

Up to 75 Percent of US Youth Ineligible for Military Service

[link to usgovinfo.about.com]

Pentagon: 7 in 10 Youths Would Fail to Qualify for Military Service

[link to time.com]

.
 Quoting: Terrebonne


Do you know what time it is? When does a 'clause' or LAW have the advantage of not being overturned. Wtf are you reading.





GLP