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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71674014 United States 03/29/2016 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter If you go to Real Clear politics it shows a new Wisconsin poll done by Optimus . Trump 31 Kasich 29 Cruz 27 Also shows that the undecided are breaking for Kasich & Trump . I agree though that these polls are not factoring in the democrat & independent . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1467596 United States 03/29/2016 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... I'm in WISCONSIN ... I've had FOUR pollsters already call our land line asking how old, m/f, how I classify myself, who would I vote for in various scenarios ... . ... EACH TIME I ALWAYS indicate TRUMP!!!! ... . ... but seems that is not the answer they are looking for! ... . |
trumpsupporter (OP) User ID: 69711385 United States 03/29/2016 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter If you go to Real Clear politics it shows a new Wisconsin poll done by Optimus . Trump 31 Kasich 29 Cruz 27 Also shows that the undecided are breaking for Kasich & Trump . I agree though that these polls are not factoring in the democrat & independent . Thanks for the info! |
trumpsupporter (OP) User ID: 69711385 United States 03/29/2016 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1467596 ... I'm in WISCONSIN ... I've had FOUR pollsters already call our land line asking how old, m/f, how I classify myself, who would I vote for in various scenarios ... . ... EACH TIME I ALWAYS indicate TRUMP!!!! ... . ... but seems that is not the answer they are looking for! ... . Ah, thank you for the ground zero report!!!! |
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U.P. Farmer User ID: 41843712 United States 03/29/2016 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter I hope you're right. We need this one! Eat your Cheese Curds, my friends! (Just right across the Wisconsin border in the beautiful U.P. of Michigan). I'd complain more, but I'm too busy being blessed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71674014 United States 03/29/2016 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter If you go to Real Clear politics it shows a new Wisconsin poll done by Optimus . Trump 31 Kasich 29 Cruz 27 Also shows that the undecided are breaking for Kasich & Trump . I agree though that these polls are not factoring in the democrat & independent . Thanks for the info! You're welcome |
trumpsupporter (OP) User ID: 69711385 United States 03/29/2016 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter I hope you're right. We need this one! Eat your Cheese Curds, my friends! (Just right across the Wisconsin border in the beautiful U.P. of Michigan). Thanks for the comment. Well, your thoughts remind me of how well Trump did in Michigan. Seems like he should do just as well in Wisconsin. I don't see how Cruz could do well in such a state. Baffles me. |
davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 03/29/2016 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter Are you talking about the Emerson Poll and the one from The Washington Free Beacon? Both polls have very small samples and what that usually means is they poll enough to get the result they want. The mere fact that Limbaugh is having cruz-asms over these polls should tell you something. The Washington Free Beacon's managing editor is Bill Kristol's son-in-law and something tells me he will come up with whatever results his father-in-law tells him is desirable... :3-25 BC: |
trumpsupporter (OP) User ID: 69711385 United States 03/29/2016 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter Are you talking about the Emerson Poll and the one from The Washington Free Beacon? Both polls have very small samples and what that usually means is they poll enough to get the result they want. The mere fact that Limbaugh is having cruz-asms over these polls should tell you something. The Washington Free Beacon's managing editor is Bill Kristol's son-in-law and something tells me he will come up with whatever results his father-in-law tells him is desirable... :3-25 BC: Thanks Davvi. So this means they are driving a false narrative. That's what I thought. Cruz appeals to hard right religious folks which doesn't exactly describe the Wisconsin electorate. Were those the same polls Fox News was hyping? |
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davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 03/29/2016 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter Are you talking about the Emerson Poll and the one from The Washington Free Beacon? Both polls have very small samples and what that usually means is they poll enough to get the result they want. The mere fact that Limbaugh is having cruz-asms over these polls should tell you something. The Washington Free Beacon's managing editor is Bill Kristol's son-in-law and something tells me he will come up with whatever results his father-in-law tells him is desirable... :3-25 BC: Thanks Davvi. So this means they are driving a false narrative. That's what I thought. Cruz appeals to hard right religious folks which doesn't exactly describe the Wisconsin electorate. Were those the same polls Fox News was hyping? I have to think back to South Carolina (I think it was), where the media touted specifically the WSJ/NBC poll which also showed Cruz in the lead and then a lot of other media jumping on board with really obscured polls to claim the same. FOX news also ignored their own poll to promote the WSJ poll. Limbaugh talked about it 3 hours a day everyday for several days before the primary and of course Trump won. I think they do this to inject some interest in their reporting. How boring would it be to report Trump Wins over and over again? I mean I would love it, but how many others would tune out? |
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trumpsupporter (OP) User ID: 69711385 United States 03/29/2016 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter Are you talking about the Emerson Poll and the one from The Washington Free Beacon? Both polls have very small samples and what that usually means is they poll enough to get the result they want. The mere fact that Limbaugh is having cruz-asms over these polls should tell you something. The Washington Free Beacon's managing editor is Bill Kristol's son-in-law and something tells me he will come up with whatever results his father-in-law tells him is desirable... :3-25 BC: Thanks Davvi. So this means they are driving a false narrative. That's what I thought. Cruz appeals to hard right religious folks which doesn't exactly describe the Wisconsin electorate. Were those the same polls Fox News was hyping? I have to think back to South Carolina (I think it was), where the media touted specifically the WSJ/NBC poll which also showed Cruz in the lead and then a lot of other media jumping on board with really obscured polls to claim the same. FOX news also ignored their own poll to promote the WSJ poll. Limbaugh talked about it 3 hours a day everyday for several days before the primary and of course Trump won. I think they do this to inject some interest in their reporting. How boring would it be to report Trump Wins over and over again? I mean I would love it, but how many others would tune out? Ahhh, okay, that makes total sense. I guess I was just baffled because Trump had such huge leads in Florida, Illinois, and Arizona. I couldn't understand how all of a sudden Cruz was pulling ahead in a northern state like Wisconsin. Didn't add up. But yeah, I had forgotten about all the hype in the days leading up to SC that suggested Trump might do as well as some thought. And of course he did. The Wisconsin electorate seems primed to play to Trump's strengths so I'm expecting him to pull ahead by a comfortable margin come the April 5th primary. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71296279 United States 03/29/2016 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter Just like the polast that show hillary beating trump, and Cruz and Kasich doing better than trump, it is because they only poll registered Republicans, not independents, cross over Democrats, first time voters, etc... Trump has the most diverse voters which makes him the strongest candidiate, the one who will win the white house. This is why everyone is trying to stop him, if they went by these polls, then they wouldn't even worry about stopping trump. Trh nm please is the most powerful and they know it, you will not hear anyone on MSM, try and explain these polls because they want everyone to believe that trump would lose to hillary. But Theyou can't explain how trump has 2 million more voters than cruz, 4 million more than Kasim have but would lose to hillary while Kasich and Cruz would beat her, how's that? They get lost in their own lies |
trumpsupporter (OP) User ID: 69711385 United States 03/29/2016 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter Just like the polast that show hillary beating trump, and Cruz and Kasich doing better than trump, it is because they only poll registered Republicans, not independents, cross over Democrats, first time voters, etc... Trump has the most diverse voters which makes him the strongest candidiate, the one who will win the white house. This is why everyone is trying to stop him, if they went by these polls, then they wouldn't even worry about stopping trump. Trh nm please is the most powerful and they know it, you will not hear anyone on MSM, try and explain these polls because they want everyone to believe that trump would lose to hillary. But Theyou can't explain how trump has 2 million more voters than cruz, 4 million more than Kasim have but would lose to hillary while Kasich and Cruz would beat her, how's that? They get lost in their own lies Yes, very good points. Looking forward to a Trump victory next Tuesday night in Wisconsin. |
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davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 03/29/2016 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter Just like the polast that show hillary beating trump, and Cruz and Kasich doing better than trump, it is because they only poll registered Republicans, not independents, cross over Democrats, first time voters, etc... Trump has the most diverse voters which makes him the strongest candidiate, the one who will win the white house. This is why everyone is trying to stop him, if they went by these polls, then they wouldn't even worry about stopping trump. Trh nm please is the most powerful and they know it, you will not hear anyone on MSM, try and explain these polls because they want everyone to believe that trump would lose to hillary. But Theyou can't explain how trump has 2 million more voters than cruz, 4 million more than Kasim have but would lose to hillary while Kasich and Cruz would beat her, how's that? They get lost in their own lies I am glad that it is an open primary and not a caucus. Caucuses are die-hard republican insiders and Trump never does well in those. I juts know that if the repuke party pulls a fast one. I will write in Trump's name and ignore the rest of the ballot. Then I will wash my hands of politics for good as there wouldn't be any point in participating any longer. This whole primary season has been amazing at exposing the phonies and liars. Limbaugh, Levin, Shapiro, just to name a few are insiders and liars. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71517798 United States 03/29/2016 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nate Silver, the master poll aggregator, has consistently been giving the booger eater an 85% chance to win Wisconsin. Nate Silver? Based on one heavily weighted poll, Nate Silver is making a bold prediction? Right!! He's using TWELVE polls and now has it Cruz 70 Trump 22 These are winning chances, not polling numbers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71878388 United Kingdom 03/29/2016 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter Incontrovertible evidence right there. |
trumpsupporter (OP) User ID: 69711385 United States 03/29/2016 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't figure out how Cruz would be leading Trump in a few polls coming out of Wisconsin. Then I realized, these polls are probably only sampling Republicans or Republican leaning voters. But Trump will attract Indies and Democrat blue dog voters, especially in a rust belt state like Wisconsin. I'm betting these polls don't take those voters into account, thus giving wrong info on who is really ahead in the polls. Quoting: trumpsupporter Incontrovertible evidence right there. Well, I'm saying it's a theory and asked for thoughts. No need to be an ass. |