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Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca

 
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I knew he committed suicide but didnt know it had to do with OTO. I also know Bowie was always influenced, but what happened to his brother?
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Graham Bond was into the Magick thing too? And it killed him?
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He commited suicide, like Bowie's older brother


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Yet millions of people practice magick ans don't end up like that. Another scare tactic:

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First you need to learn how to spell it: M-A-G-I-C.

No K unless you are D&D role playing, or in a fantasy novel.

Now on to lesson 2.
Careful! They are listening!
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Why would you follow a god who created the devil? If he knows all that will happen, he knows how to not make an angel that will rebel.
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You have a pre ordained free will,
Lol, he didn’t create the anti christ , the created did, not the Creator.
There can’t be a neg until a positive is stated.
That’s what kills me ‘bout you guys.
Creations a locomotion ..and you stand on the tracks...
Maple leaf my ass..St Andrews Cross.
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First you need to learn how to spell it: M-A-G-I-C.

No K unless you are D&D role playing, or in a fantasy novel.

Now on to lesson 2.
 Quoting: Tim Foil Hat


chuckle
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"Last of the Magic
Last of the sun
Last of the holy
Four, Three, Two, One"


No more need for rituals
No more need for spells
No more need for magic
No more need for orders
Where we're going all you need is your mind
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My advice would be to learn to live in the world, develop you talents, work hard with a goal, and forget about BS like "magic"...
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Thelema or Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn or Wicca. I've heard horror stories and the major religions warn against it. I'm still interested in using it to improve my life. I want to make contact with angels and God. Do you have any advice or should I stick with prayer?
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You have to be really really careful about that stuff. It's real and it can mess you up.

Jesus is the only way.
"Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
(...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty)

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Chaos Magic is where it's at. Belief is a powerful tool.

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My advice would be to learn to live in the world, develop you talents, work hard with a goal, and forget about BS like "magic"...
 Quoting: Rodulf


Great advice...
It ain’t for everyone
Level of engagement....
The things you do when there’s nothing else to do.
Chop water carry wood.
Some are carpenters.
Maple leaf my ass..St Andrews Cross.
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
In The War That Is To Come, you will need to use magick. Or at least one of your loved ones or one of your allies, at least one, the more the better, must be able to use magick:

Thread: The Human vs. Vampire War Begins Today (10-17-18)

People here can say this, that, or the other thing. None of it changes the fact that the Undead can and will use magick. Their allies, Humans and Dark Fae among them, will be using magick as well.

Nothing people may say in response to my post here will change that.

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Yet millions of people practice magick ans don't end up like that. Another scare tactic:

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 Quoting: HeraldofDawn777



Meditation can trigger schizophrenia, this side effect is real.

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>Clinicians believed that meditation could trigger a psychotic episode by creating a mental state in which the person was no longer connected to reality and would let his or her mind take over. This belief was not entirely unfounded. In fact, unguided meditation practices can be harmful for people with a diagnosis of a psychotic disorder and have indeed been documented as worsening the psychotic symptoms of some individuals.4

The dangers are real and anyone who goes into the Mystic should be fully informed.
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Yet millions of people practice magick ans don't end up like that. Another scare tactic:

[link to www.politicususa.com (secure)]
 Quoting: HeraldofDawn777



Meditation can trigger schizophrenia, this side effect is real.

[link to www.heretohelp.bc.ca]

>Clinicians believed that meditation could trigger a psychotic episode by creating a mental state in which the person was no longer connected to reality and would let his or her mind take over. This belief was not entirely unfounded. In fact, unguided meditation practices can be harmful for people with a diagnosis of a psychotic disorder and have indeed been documented as worsening the psychotic symptoms of some individuals.4

The dangers are real and anyone who goes into the Mystic should be fully informed.
 Quoting: Asmodée


Yes, thank you for pointing that out. Mindfulness can do that. Mindfulness is in fact dangerous.

But I am not speaking of Mindfulness. Mindfulness is one thing. What I'm speaking of is something different entirely.

Mindfulness is not magick. In fact, magick involves visualization and emotions. Magick is not related to Mindfulness in any way.
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BE WARNED:
You CANNOT UNLEARN Magick.
“Meaningless! Meaningless!”
says the Teacher.
“Utterly meaningless!
Everything is meaningless.”
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Mindfulness is about being empty. In contrast to magick, which involves being filled. Filled with energy. Filled with emotions. Filled with life. In fact, love makes magick stronger. Love for friends and family. Love for an intimate lover. Notice that's in sharp contrast to the Detachment and Void of Mindfulness.

Thus, Mindfulness is not related to Magick whatsoever. Magick is about relationships and being filled. Mindfulness is about Detachment and the Void.

In fact, the Mastermind behind the Vampires is behind the current Mindfulness craze. For people who practice Mindfulness are detached from loved ones, and that pleases him, the Mastermind behind the Vampires. And since they, people who are practicing Mindfulness, are emptying themselves out, it makes it much more difficult for them to practice magick. Making them easier prey for the Undead.

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Mindfulness is not magick. In fact, magick involves visualization and emotions. Magick is not related to Mindfulness in any way.
 Quoting: HeraldofDawn777


You can't astral project without meditation practice.
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'bout time to hoist that ole black flag...
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Everything we do is considered magic. Our thoughts work with energies and manifest those thoughts if they're in unison with the universe OR if you use energies to bind and control sometimes they manifest, often in ways you really have no control over. There is always a price to pay when doing magic for control. YOU and you alone are responsible for paying that debt. The universe knows who to send the bill to and for how much.

You either practice to work in unison with energies in an equal exchange or you practice to control them. One is organic and the other is a crime and creates chaos.

Times are coming where those who work to control and bind spirits, energies and other people to do their bidding will have their "wands" taken from them. Those who work in unison with nature, not trying to control or gain power through control, will be just fine.

If you've done work to bind or control you simply "repent" by releasing any spirits or energies you may have bound and stop incorporating that into your practice. When you bind something you are bound to what you bound. You release those bindings you placed on yourself also.

At this time it's key to protect yourself and never reveal your methods. As we all know those who practice black magic aren't going to stop until they are stopped by something they have no control over.

Free will allows you to do what thou wilt...but what you do unto others will be done unto you eventually. Infringing on someone else's will doesn't ever end well for the caster. Release yourself or don't.
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Re: Is it worth it to learn Magick? Thelema or Golden Dawn or Wicca
I did a spinning clockwise motion and chanted Yahweh's name to invoke him. I don't know if it qualifies as magick.
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sorry, new to this so I don't know if I got this right - your are on to something with the circle but it seems to be a common thing with magic stuff, however, the name of the diety called a God - not sure if one can actually ascribe a name to such immense creation and some religious societies like the Masons I think say that the name of a God is a secret privilege B.S., anyways the story of the Moses when he was said to go up to a mountain and Moses said who shall I said sent me and the deity called a God in that story said tell them that I am that I am sent you - the term Yahweh and Jehovahyoda was man-made names is the point I am driving at.
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I hear its popular in New Zealand. Maybe you should move there.
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Only way to learn magic is cast away your religious belifes unless you are a freemasion/skull and bones that is.