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without love we are nothing (OP) User ID: 36025155  Portugal04/07/2016 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: without love we are nothing you wrote "What's in it for him, same thing that was in it for Perot, fame, ego building, and then eventually big money and the President of the United State's ear... I don't know that this is a fact, but if Trump runs a race he cannot win, it will be pretty obvious to me…" thought u was referring to him running for GOP candidate not independent as we was on the subject of wether he was a plant just so clinton could win I said if he runs independent, because it is a race he cannot win, I'll be convinced he's just another Clinton plant... why does that convince u? I dont buy it Because it's exactly the same M.O. as Ross Perot. Consider this, Trump is loaning his campaign a lot of money, why would he continue to waste money on a campaign he can't possibly win, unless there's something at the end... he is winning and is the leading candidate , thats why he is doing it , plain and simple, I dont buy it If he went independent its because they have left him no choice, Trump is trying to win , plain and simple, your not helping trumps cause with his line of thinking without love we are nothing |
| Saddletramp User ID: 68373023  United States04/07/2016 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Saddletramp I said if he runs independent, because it is a race he cannot win, I'll be convinced he's just another Clinton plant... why does that convince u? I dont buy it Because it's exactly the same M.O. as Ross Perot. Consider this, Trump is loaning his campaign a lot of money, why would he continue to waste money on a campaign he can't possibly win, unless there's something at the end... he is winning and is the leading candidate , thats why he is doing it , plain and simple, I dont buy it If he went independent its because they have left him no choice, Trump is trying to win , plain and simple, your not helping trumps cause with his line of thinking I don't support Trump... My point is, regarding the Independent thing, he wouldn't be able to get on several ballots if he waits until the Convention and get's shot down there, one of those State's is Texas. He couldn't win at that point... So if he decides to run, despite the fact he's loaning his own campaign money, and can't win, then he has "Other Motivations", and has likely had "Other Motivations" the entire time... Last Edited by Saddletramp on 04/07/2016 09:24 PM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| without love we are nothing (OP) User ID: 36025155 Portugal04/07/2016 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because it's exactly the same M.O. as Ross Perot. Consider this, Trump is loaning his campaign a lot of money, why would he continue to waste money on a campaign he can't possibly win, unless there's something at the end... he is winning and is the leading candidate , thats why he is doing it , plain and simple, I dont buy it If he went independent its because they have left him no choice, Trump is trying to win , plain and simple, your not helping trumps cause with his line of thinking I don't support Trump... My point is, regarding the Independent thing, he wouldn't be able to get on several ballots if he waits until the Convention and get's shot down there, one of those State's is Texas. He couldn't win at that point... So if he decides to run, despite the fact he's loaning his own campaign money, and can't win, then he has "Other Motivations", and has likely had "Other Motivations" the entire time... I still dont buy it , I see a man who is trying to win , regardless of what he does if they steal it from him, who do u support? without love we are nothing |
| Saddletramp User ID: 68373023 United States04/07/2016 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Saddletramp Because it's exactly the same M.O. as Ross Perot. Consider this, Trump is loaning his campaign a lot of money, why would he continue to waste money on a campaign he can't possibly win, unless there's something at the end... he is winning and is the leading candidate , thats why he is doing it , plain and simple, I dont buy it If he went independent its because they have left him no choice, Trump is trying to win , plain and simple, your not helping trumps cause with his line of thinking I don't support Trump... My point is, regarding the Independent thing, he wouldn't be able to get on several ballots if he waits until the Convention and get's shot down there, one of those State's is Texas. He couldn't win at that point... So if he decides to run, despite the fact he's loaning his own campaign money, and can't win, then he has "Other Motivations", and has likely had "Other Motivations" the entire time... I still dont buy it , I see a man who is trying to win , regardless of what he does if they steal it from him, who do u support? I voted Cruz in the Texas Primary, For President it depends on who is running right now... You say he's trying to win, maybe. But if he's not on the ballot in several State's it's a no brainer that he loses the Presidential Race as an Independent...so what would he be trying to accomplish with that? Last Edited by Saddletramp on 04/07/2016 09:33 PM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| JeffersunTzu User ID: 69465840 United States04/07/2016 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Trump runs 3rd party, Bernie would run as 3rd party and you'd have a 4 way Ryan/Bernie/Hillary/Trump race. Trump would win if he took Cruz as VP. "The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots." "He who knows when he can fight and when he can not, will be victorious." "Part of being a winner is knowing when enough is enough. Sometimes you have to give up the fight and walk away, and move on to something that's more productive." "Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war." |
| Saddletramp User ID: 68373023 United States04/07/2016 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Trump runs 3rd party, Bernie would run as 3rd party and you'd have a 4 way Ryan/Bernie/Hillary/Trump race. Quoting: JeffersunTzu Trump would win if he took Cruz as VP. If Trump or Bernie are going to Run Independent they better decide before the Party Conventions, otherwise it will be too late to get them on several State Ballots... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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| Saddletramp User ID: 68373023 United States04/07/2016 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes he can Trump vs Cruz vs Hillary vs Bernie I bet he still gets the most votes. And if the establishment is cheating, that will open the door for forced intervention by the US military. Not if he and Bernie wait for the Party Conventions...they won't be able to get on several State ballots... IF Trump and Bernie both got out now to run Independent, and it was a four-way race, everyone on all the ballots of all the States...maybe Trump has a chance. Last Edited by Saddletramp on 04/07/2016 09:47 PM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States04/07/2016 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Trump runs 3rd party, Bernie would run as 3rd party and you'd have a 4 way Ryan/Bernie/Hillary/Trump race. Quoting: JeffersunTzu Trump would win if he took Cruz as VP. If Trump or Bernie are going to Run Independent they better decide before the Party Conventions, otherwise it will be too late to get them on several State Ballots... Trump has ZERO plans to run as an Independent. This thread is stupid propaganda trying to plant seeds.  |
| Saddletramp User ID: 68373023 United States04/07/2016 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Trump runs 3rd party, Bernie would run as 3rd party and you'd have a 4 way Ryan/Bernie/Hillary/Trump race. Quoting: JeffersunTzu Trump would win if he took Cruz as VP. If Trump or Bernie are going to Run Independent they better decide before the Party Conventions, otherwise it will be too late to get them on several State Ballots... Trump has ZERO plans to run as an Independent. This thread is stupid propaganda trying to plant seeds. Oh bullshit, it's always been Trump's implied threat to the GOPe that he would run Independent and fuck everything up if they didn't treat him fair... Last Edited by Saddletramp on 04/07/2016 09:49 PM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| without love we are nothing (OP) User ID: 36025155 Portugal04/07/2016 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: without love we are nothing he is winning and is the leading candidate , thats why he is doing it , plain and simple, I dont buy it If he went independent its because they have left him no choice, Trump is trying to win , plain and simple, your not helping trumps cause with his line of thinking I don't support Trump... My point is, regarding the Independent thing, he wouldn't be able to get on several ballots if he waits until the Convention and get's shot down there, one of those State's is Texas. He couldn't win at that point... So if he decides to run, despite the fact he's loaning his own campaign money, and can't win, then he has "Other Motivations", and has likely had "Other Motivations" the entire time... I still dont buy it , I see a man who is trying to win , regardless of what he does if they steal it from him, who do u support? I voted Cruz in the Texas Primary, For President it depends on who is running right now... You say he's trying to win, maybe. But if he's not on the ballot in several State's it's a no brainer that he loses the Presidential Race as an Independent...so what would he be trying to accomplish with that? Cant believe u voted for Cruz he is such sleaze bag, typical politician , cant stand him without love we are nothing |
| Saddletramp User ID: 68373023 United States04/07/2016 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Saddletramp I don't support Trump... My point is, regarding the Independent thing, he wouldn't be able to get on several ballots if he waits until the Convention and get's shot down there, one of those State's is Texas. He couldn't win at that point... So if he decides to run, despite the fact he's loaning his own campaign money, and can't win, then he has "Other Motivations", and has likely had "Other Motivations" the entire time... I still dont buy it , I see a man who is trying to win , regardless of what he does if they steal it from him, who do u support? I voted Cruz in the Texas Primary, For President it depends on who is running right now... You say he's trying to win, maybe. But if he's not on the ballot in several State's it's a no brainer that he loses the Presidential Race as an Independent...so what would he be trying to accomplish with that? Cant believe u voted for Cruz he is such sleaze bag, typical politician , cant stand him Well you don't want me to get started on Donald... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| without love we are nothing (OP) User ID: 36025155 Portugal04/07/2016 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Trump runs 3rd party, Bernie would run as 3rd party and you'd have a 4 way Ryan/Bernie/Hillary/Trump race. Quoting: JeffersunTzu Trump would win if he took Cruz as VP. If Trump or Bernie are going to Run Independent they better decide before the Party Conventions, otherwise it will be too late to get them on several State Ballots... Trump has ZERO plans to run as an Independent. This thread is stupid propaganda trying to plant seeds. listen cookie monster, this thread isn't propaganda ,It was an innocent question, I love Trump,whats he supposed to do if they push him out? thats all Im asking without love we are nothing |
| without love we are nothing (OP) User ID: 36025155 Portugal04/07/2016 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: without love we are nothing I still dont buy it , I see a man who is trying to win , regardless of what he does if they steal it from him, who do u support? I voted Cruz in the Texas Primary, For President it depends on who is running right now... You say he's trying to win, maybe. But if he's not on the ballot in several State's it's a no brainer that he loses the Presidential Race as an Independent...so what would he be trying to accomplish with that? Cant believe u voted for Cruz he is such sleaze bag, typical politician , cant stand him Well you don't want me to get started on Donald... At least he is real, that for me is his appeal without love we are nothing |
| without love we are nothing (OP) User ID: 36025155 Portugal04/07/2016 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Saddletramp I voted Cruz in the Texas Primary, For President it depends on who is running right now... You say he's trying to win, maybe. But if he's not on the ballot in several State's it's a no brainer that he loses the Presidential Race as an Independent...so what would he be trying to accomplish with that? Cant believe u voted for Cruz he is such sleaze bag, typical politician , cant stand him Well you don't want me to get started on Donald... At least he is real, that for me is his appeal and self funded in nobodys pocket without love we are nothing |
| Saddletramp User ID: 68373023 United States04/07/2016 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: without love we are nothing Cant believe u voted for Cruz he is such sleaze bag, typical politician , cant stand him Well you don't want me to get started on Donald... At least he is real, that for me is his appeal and self funded in nobodys pocket Look into his History with Trump Towers in New York, the project that almost took him to Personal Bankruptcy, and did take his company to Bankruptcy, take a look at who bailed him out, then tell me he's in "Nobody's Pocket"... And also, the "Self Funding" thing is a gentle euphemism at best... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| without love we are nothing (OP) User ID: 36025155 Portugal04/07/2016 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and self funded in nobodys pocket Look into his History with Trump Towers in New York, the project that almost took him to Personal Bankruptcy, and did take his company to Bankruptcy, take a look at who bailed him out, then tell me he's in "Nobody's Pocket"... And also, the "Self Funding" thing is a gentle euphemism at best... wow u cant really believe what your spouting? its basically impossible to have a business without dealing with some kind of bank, but that aside , thats his business, he is as near as possible to get someone "clean" the cleanest politician u will come across without love we are nothing |
| Saddletramp User ID: 68373023 United States04/07/2016 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look into his History with Trump Towers in New York, the project that almost took him to Personal Bankruptcy, and did take his company to Bankruptcy, take a look at who bailed him out, then tell me he's in "Nobody's Pocket"... And also, the "Self Funding" thing is a gentle euphemism at best... wow u cant really believe what your spouting? its basically impossible to have a business without dealing with some kind of bank, but that aside , thats his business, he is as near as possible to get someone "clean" the cleanest politician u will come across It wasn't a bank [link to americanfreepress.net] Last Edited by Saddletramp on 04/07/2016 10:19 PM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States04/07/2016 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Trump runs 3rd party, Bernie would run as 3rd party and you'd have a 4 way Ryan/Bernie/Hillary/Trump race. Quoting: JeffersunTzu Trump would win if he took Cruz as VP. If Trump or Bernie are going to Run Independent they better decide before the Party Conventions, otherwise it will be too late to get them on several State Ballots... Trump has ZERO plans to run as an Independent. This thread is stupid propaganda trying to plant seeds. listen cookie monster, this thread isn't propaganda ,It was an innocent question, I love Trump,whats he supposed to do if they push him out? thats all Im asking They CANNOT push Trump out and force him to run as an Independent. ...ESPECIALLY at this stage of the Primary process. You dig?  |
| without love we are nothing (OP) User ID: 36025155 Portugal04/07/2016 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look into his History with Trump Towers in New York, the project that almost took him to Personal Bankruptcy, and did take his company to Bankruptcy, take a look at who bailed him out, then tell me he's in "Nobody's Pocket"... And also, the "Self Funding" thing is a gentle euphemism at best... wow u cant really believe what your spouting? its basically impossible to have a business without dealing with some kind of bank, but that aside , thats his business, he is as near as possible to get someone "clean" the cleanest politician u will come across It wasn't a bank potato/potatoe I said some sort of bank, its dishonest of u to suggest he is in someone else's pocket because of his business dealings years and years ago, the rest are all Charlatans all pigs in the trough without love we are nothing |
| without love we are nothing (OP) User ID: 36025155 Portugal04/07/2016 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Saddletramp If Trump or Bernie are going to Run Independent they better decide before the Party Conventions, otherwise it will be too late to get them on several State Ballots... Trump has ZERO plans to run as an Independent. This thread is stupid propaganda trying to plant seeds. listen cookie monster, this thread isn't propaganda ,It was an innocent question, I love Trump,whats he supposed to do if they push him out? thats all Im asking They CANNOT push Trump out and force him to run as an Independent. ...ESPECIALLY at this stage of the Primary process. You dig? they can if he doesn't reach the magic total the 1200 and something figure and even then they can still change it (although unlikely ) the establishment are scared to have him in power without love we are nothing |
| Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States04/07/2016 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater Trump has ZERO plans to run as an Independent. This thread is stupid propaganda trying to plant seeds. listen cookie monster, this thread isn't propaganda ,It was an innocent question, I love Trump,whats he supposed to do if they push him out? thats all Im asking They CANNOT push Trump out and force him to run as an Independent. ...ESPECIALLY at this stage of the Primary process. You dig? they can if he doesn't reach the magic total the 1200 and something figure and even then they can still change it (although unlikely ) the establishment are scared to have him in power Stop listening to the MSM. They CANNOT push Trump out. He will NOT run as an Independent. Also....he needs between 50%-60% of the remaining delegates. VERY attainable. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 04/07/2016 10:26 PM |
| without love we are nothing (OP) User ID: 36025155 Portugal04/07/2016 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: without love we are nothing listen cookie monster, this thread isn't propaganda ,It was an innocent question, I love Trump,whats he supposed to do if they push him out? thats all Im asking They CANNOT push Trump out and force him to run as an Independent. ...ESPECIALLY at this stage of the Primary process. You dig? they can if he doesn't reach the magic total the 1200 and something figure and even then they can still change it (although unlikely ) the establishment are scared to have him in power Stop listening to the MSM. They CANNOT push Trump out. He will NOT run as an Independent. Also....he needs between 50%-60% of the remaining delegates. VERY attainable. Unfortunately its the rules, if they dont reach that magic number, i hope he does cookie monster I really do!!! without love we are nothing |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70959032 United States04/07/2016 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets face it, the establishment won't allow him to win at contested convention. Quoting: without love we are nothing So Can he? Will he? Maybe, this election is totally different than any other ever seen. Voters are pissed, so the old ways of people voting R or D is gone. Now lets say, bernie goes 3rd party, trump goes 3rd party, well now you have an equal playing field. Hillary, bernie, trump and whoever they brong in. So yes possible. |
| Saddletramp User ID: 68373023 United States04/07/2016 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Saddletramp Look into his History with Trump Towers in New York, the project that almost took him to Personal Bankruptcy, and did take his company to Bankruptcy, take a look at who bailed him out, then tell me he's in "Nobody's Pocket"... And also, the "Self Funding" thing is a gentle euphemism at best... wow u cant really believe what your spouting? its basically impossible to have a business without dealing with some kind of bank, but that aside , thats his business, he is as near as possible to get someone "clean" the cleanest politician u will come across It wasn't a bank potato/potatoe I said some sort of bank, its dishonest of u to suggest he is in someone else's pocket because of his business dealings years and years ago, the rest are all Charlatans all pigs in the trough Read it... [link to americanfreepress.net] "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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| without love we are nothing (OP) User ID: 36025155 Portugal04/07/2016 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: without love we are nothing wow u cant really believe what your spouting? its basically impossible to have a business without dealing with some kind of bank, but that aside , thats his business, he is as near as possible to get someone "clean" the cleanest politician u will come across It wasn't a bank potato/potatoe I said some sort of bank, its dishonest of u to suggest he is in someone else's pocket because of his business dealings years and years ago, the rest are all Charlatans all pigs in the trough Read it... [link to americanfreepress.net] Sorry cant be bothered, I cant take anyone seriously who votes for Cruz without love we are nothing |
| Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States04/07/2016 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater They CANNOT push Trump out and force him to run as an Independent. ...ESPECIALLY at this stage of the Primary process. You dig? they can if he doesn't reach the magic total the 1200 and something figure and even then they can still change it (although unlikely ) the establishment are scared to have him in power Stop listening to the MSM. They CANNOT push Trump out. He will NOT run as an Independent. Also....he needs between 50%-60% of the remaining delegates. VERY attainable. Unfortunately its the rules, if they dont reach that magic number, i hope he does cookie monster I really do!!! There are no rules that state anything like that. You are regurgitating MSM spin. I thought people on GLP were savvy to reality and not lost in the MSM fog anymore.  Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 04/07/2016 10:34 PM |
| without love we are nothing (OP) User ID: 36025155 Portugal04/07/2016 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: without love we are nothing they can if he doesn't reach the magic total the 1200 and something figure and even then they can still change it (although unlikely ) the establishment are scared to have him in power Stop listening to the MSM. They CANNOT push Trump out. He will NOT run as an Independent. Also....he needs between 50%-60% of the remaining delegates. VERY attainable. Unfortunately its the rules, if they dont reach that magic number, i hope he does cookie monster I really do!!! There are no rules that state anything like that. You are regurgitating MSM spin. I thought people on GLP were savvy to reality and not lost in the MSM fog anymore. Im a Brit by the way, previously Ive had no interest in American politics before Trump. So your telling me that if he doesn't reach the magic number that he is 100% the GOP nominee just because he has more votes????? without love we are nothing |
