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My kids are the final generation of workers. They are 15 and 16 and the oldest has been working on robots since he was 12 years old.

He is now on the FIRST robotics team for his engineering school and plans on going into robotics engineering and 3D printing technologies....


Look at what the Rothchild's have been warning us about for decades. They are telegraphing was is coming and 95% of humanity is to fucking stupid to see it.


What is coming? The end of the useless eater... Since the days of the Pharaohs and before, the elites(the Rothchild types that have been around since the beginning of civilization) have needed more and more slaves to keep their world running..

Slaves to build the pyramids, to build the castles, to fight wars against other elites...

Even as the "workers" outnumbered the elites 10000000 to 1, the workers never meaningfully stood against the elites.

The elites just made life "better" for 1 in 7 of us on the planet and we kept the other 6 in line through military dominance and economic dominance....

Well a day is fast approaching that the elites have DREAMED of for nearly 10,000 years... The end of needing us...


Every day we see new and amazing videos of robots walking upright and picking up boxes and welding vehicles and assembling parts that only the deftest females hands could do in decades past...


YOU ARE NO LONGER NEEDED and they are doing everything in their power to slow our rate of growth(the 99.99%) and eventually reverse it and kill us off with the robots our own children are helping to create in the publicly funded schools WE PAY FOR....

Only those that can help maintain the robotic fleets will be needed, and only until the robots themselves can fulfill this need.....


Imagine how cool it will be for the elites! A planet with only a few million people and hundreds of millions of robots looking after their every need and want.. Hell they'll even have sex robots that are better than any Useless eater whore they were forced to use because their own elite woman are to inbred and stuck up to have dirty sex with them...

Say good bye to the oldest profession....

So even the pretty ones who get to run with the Elites in our current world will no longer be needed.. There will be an App/robot for that.........

Robot... I mean Robert.
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No doubt one of their goals.
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So this begs the question.. Do you teach your children to be useful for one more generation so at least they have a chance of living a decent life in 1st world conditions?


Or do you tell them the truth that they are working on technologies that are going to be turned on humanity and likely themselves in the coming decades?


The elite understand perfectly that 7 billion humans can no longer exist on this planet.... They let their greed and wanting to have more slaves, blind themselves to the reality that they allowed the slaves population to grow unchecked..

As most of you know there are factions of elites. it is not one unified group.. They fight all the time.. But they also come together for mutual protection..

And this is one of those issues.. Across the globe every nation/tribe/group is working on the robot issue..


It is an absolute imperative that the HUMAN slave is phased out in one generation or less, or else the planet is fucked and in turn so are the elites..


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I've been telling people this for a few years now and they look at me like Im crazy. When robots can do all the work do you really think the people that control the robots are going to continue to feed and take care of you? You have idea how easy it is to give a command to a robot and not have to see them carry it out. Oh well we had a good run.
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If this happens, I hope people are smart enough to melt down all the nuclear power plants to make sure no one survives.
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I just wish I was elite..

Can you imagine how cool the future will be if they succeed in doing this?


It is a race for time.. Can they get the robots in place and start substantially reducing population before the useless eaters destroy the planet or get wise and start destroying the robotics factories and storming the elites castles....


Like a good labor union, we should be going after the robots so they don't take our jobs.

Think about how many useless fucking jobs we do just to keep each other employed?

How many of us actually do anything that has anything to do with real issue.. Those who make power, those who can build stuff?

The rest of us(if you aren't one of them), are engaged in serving hamburgers to each other or selling insurance to each other, or fixing broken legs of each other or selling vacation packages to each other.

Making steel, making robots, making power.. Those are all that matters now.

All the rest is to keep us from storming the castle and smashing the factories.

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I don't mean to be a huge dick and rain on your parade, but part of the reason we are moving toward automation at such an incredible rate is because a large part of the world's, you know planet Terra, the third rock from the son, is over 65 years old.

Many of our skilled trades are occupied by people well north of 50. So, the younger generation is going to have mammoth skills gaps and the bots will help fill some of the holes.
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If this happens, I hope people are smart enough to melt down all the nuclear power plants to make sure no one survives.
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japand2 Yeah that sounds real good.
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its hard to imagine what the world will be like after AI achieves human intellligence

i guess AI will eventually become dominant , whatever precautions are put in place initially over hundreds of years , people will become complacent and wont even be capable of understanding the technologies which run the world

its impossible to prevent AI from being developed to its fullest potential because for military reasons the west , china ,russia will be rushing to maintain parity or achieve an advantage

but in the short term if the technology is put to full use there will be no need for but a tenth of a percent of himans to do anything productive ....

there could be a breakaway civilization which posesses technology far in advance of the rest of us , and so secretly controls and prevents the larger population from obtaining full AI for a period ....this could explain reports of UFO s over the last decade
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I don't mean to be a huge dick and rain on your parade, but part of the reason we are moving toward automation at such an incredible rate is because a large part of the world's, you know planet Terra, the third rock from the son, is over 65 years old.

Many of our skilled trades are occupied by people well north of 50. So, the younger generation is going to have mammoth skills gaps and the bots will help fill some of the holes.
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So you believe that if there were more kids in Gen Y stepping up to the plate, there would be no need for the Robots and therefore the rest of my machinations are moot?


Bullshit. They started the robotics move in the 1960's when there were plenty of skilled tradesmen... Guess what those human tradesmen did?

They wanted more SHIT, more cars, more energy or they would go on strike.. The very thing they are moving heaven and earth to avoid right now...

The elites cannot survive without an army of slaves to keep all the shit running and moving forward....

In all reality there are approximately 7.125 billion people on planet earth. Of that number less than a billion live in 1st world or near 1st world conditions..

Of those 1 billion I would venture to guess less than 100 million are actually working in any meaningful way. And of that 100 million probably less than a few million are actually working jobs that do something OTHER THAN SERVICE OTHER EATERS...

We are the house slaves in the 1st world. Doing the higher level work and are given perks to keep the field slaves in line.

The 6 billion other humans on the planet are field slaves and are doing the shit work the 1st world slaves won't do..

They are already on the way out or are ALREADY THERE as witnessed by 10's of thousands of factories closing all over east Asia.. They will never re-open.....

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My kids are the final generation of workers. They are 15 and 16 and the oldest has been working on robots since he was 12 years old.

He is now on the FIRST robotics team for his engineering school and plans on going into robotics engineering and 3D printing technologies....


Look at what the Rothchild's have been warning us about for decades. They are telegraphing was is coming and 95% of humanity is to fucking stupid to see it.


What is coming? The end of the useless eater... Since the days of the Pharaohs and before, the elites(the Rothchild types that have been around since the beginning of civilization) have needed more and more slaves to keep their world running..

Slaves to build the pyramids, to build the castles, to fight wars against other elites...

Even as the "workers" outnumbered the elites 10000000 to 1, the workers never meaningfully stood against the elites.

The elites just made life "better" for 1 in 7 of us on the planet and we kept the other 6 in line through military dominance and economic dominance....

Well a day is fast approaching that the elites have DREAMED of for nearly 10,000 years... The end of needing us...


Every day we see new and amazing videos of robots walking upright and picking up boxes and welding vehicles and assembling parts that only the deftest females hands could do in decades past...


YOU ARE NO LONGER NEEDED and they are doing everything in their power to slow our rate of growth(the 99.99%) and eventually reverse it and kill us off with the robots our own children are helping to create in the publicly funded schools WE PAY FOR....

Only those that can help maintain the robotic fleets will be needed, and only until the robots themselves can fulfill this need.....


Imagine how cool it will be for the elites! A planet with only a few million people and hundreds of millions of robots looking after their every need and want.. Hell they'll even have sex robots that are better than any Useless eater whore they were forced to use because their own elite woman are to inbred and stuck up to have dirty sex with them...

Say good bye to the oldest profession....

So even the pretty ones who get to run with the Elites in our current world will no longer be needed.. There will be an App/robot for that.........

Robot... I mean Robert.
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^^^^^^He's right you know! Enjoy life, you do not have much time. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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im surprised glp are so unimaginative thinking about the implications

this isnt just robots taking over jobs

this is a new form of intelligence potentially vastly superior to any himan that has or will ever live, like the differnece in intlligence between a person and a dog

in terms of the economy there will be no need for anything but people to oversee the machines, management, providing high level direction

kind of depressing really i dont know how people maintain a sense of meaning and purpose in life
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its hard to imagine what the world will be like after AI achieves human intellligence

i guess AI will eventually become dominant , whatever precautions are put in place initially over hundreds of years , people will become complacent and wont even be capable of understanding the technologies which run the world

its impossible to prevent AI from being developed to its fullest potential because for military reasons the west , china ,russia will be rushing to maintain parity or achieve an advantage

but in the short term if the technology is put to full use there will be no need for but a tenth of a percent of himans to do anything productive ....

there could be a breakaway civilization which posesses technology far in advance of the rest of us , and so secretly controls and prevents the larger population from obtaining full AI for a period ....this could explain reports of UFO s over the last decade
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I honestly don't believe AI will be an issue... Likely we will see a merging of robotics and humanity in the next level.

We are already there. Artificial limbs and hearts and joints. Just a matter of time before other parts of the body can be replicated..

Nano technology and 3d Printing technology will be needed in this future world without massive manufacturing capabilities..

Why would we need massive factories(assuming my world view is correct)? What the elites need are a way to make things without having to have an army of human slaves to make it for them...

Push a button and print whatever doohicky they need.. Nanobots to go into their bodies and fix whatever is wrong with them. No need for specialized doctors...

AI will be the fusion of humans and robots. But I don't see this in any of the currently living elites.. Maybe their children will be the final generation that is BORN in the traditional way....

They may just get to live forever as they keep upgrading their technology.

Robert
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kind of interseting a single new AI tech has been used in many areas now

deep learning neursl networks

was used in AI that beat worlds best GO player

go is less combinatolric than chess, it involves a lot more conceptual understanding of the board position so in this way a champion GO software represents a step beyond what had been acheived when deep blue beat kasparov

so were making real plrogress towards true AI , its possible scaled up greatly deep learning neural nets could be the basis of true AI within a decade

in fact i wouldnt be surprised if classified AI existed that is already close to human , maybe beyond .... the govt must have vast super computing systems dedicated to trying to achieve this
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Check this out, China wanting to replace millions of workers with bots [link to www.technologyreview.com (secure)]
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recebtly read news about IBM having developed an approach for accelerating the training of deep neural nets by a factor of 30,000

something like using natural randomness in embedded in the hardware to test lots of combinations of the "weights" very quickly ... the weights correspond basically in our brain to the connections and response patteerns of our neurons which adapt as we laern
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My kids are the final generation of workers. They are 15 and 16 and the oldest has been working on robots since he was 12 years old.

He is now on the FIRST robotics team for his engineering school and plans on going into robotics engineering and 3D printing technologies....


Look at what the Rothchild's have been warning us about for decades. They are telegraphing was is coming and 95% of humanity is to fucking stupid to see it.


What is coming? The end of the useless eater... Since the days of the Pharaohs and before, the elites(the Rothchild types that have been around since the beginning of civilization) have needed more and more slaves to keep their world running..

Slaves to build the pyramids, to build the castles, to fight wars against other elites...

Even as the "workers" outnumbered the elites 10000000 to 1, the workers never meaningfully stood against the elites.

The elites just made life "better" for 1 in 7 of us on the planet and we kept the other 6 in line through military dominance and economic dominance....

Well a day is fast approaching that the elites have DREAMED of for nearly 10,000 years... The end of needing us...


Every day we see new and amazing videos of robots walking upright and picking up boxes and welding vehicles and assembling parts that only the deftest females hands could do in decades past...


YOU ARE NO LONGER NEEDED and they are doing everything in their power to slow our rate of growth(the 99.99%) and eventually reverse it and kill us off with the robots our own children are helping to create in the publicly funded schools WE PAY FOR....

Only those that can help maintain the robotic fleets will be needed, and only until the robots themselves can fulfill this need.....


Imagine how cool it will be for the elites! A planet with only a few million people and hundreds of millions of robots looking after their every need and want.. Hell they'll even have sex robots that are better than any Useless eater whore they were forced to use because their own elite woman are to inbred and stuck up to have dirty sex with them...

Say good bye to the oldest profession....

So even the pretty ones who get to run with the Elites in our current world will no longer be needed.. There will be an App/robot for that.........

Robot... I mean Robert.
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Zee Germans can build and design excellent robots..
GIANT GERMAN ROBOTS PERFORM SENSITIVE OPERATIONS


Soon zee big ROBOTIC WEHRMACHT OF ZEE GERMANY will be policing everywhere!
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kind of interseting a single new AI tech has been used in many areas now

deep learning neursl networks

was used in AI that beat worlds best GO player

go is less combinatolric than chess, it involves a lot more conceptual understanding of the board position so in this way a champion GO software represents a step beyond what had been acheived when deep blue beat kasparov

so were making real plrogress towards true AI , its possible scaled up greatly deep learning neural nets could be the basis of true AI within a decade

in fact i wouldnt be surprised if classified AI existed that is already close to human , maybe beyond .... the govt must have vast super computing systems dedicated to trying to achieve this
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Honest Question?


Why do we keep making smarter robots? I would think at this point the current technology is sufficient to do most of the jobs we need them to do? Wouldn't you agree?

The only people pushing smarter computers are computer geeks who don't know when TO FUCKING STOP!!

Again, this is a trait of the useless eater.. Its not good enough to have an atomic weapon that can destroy a city, we need one that can level entire regions...

The elites thought they could keep that genie in the bottle and get free energy out of the equation. Instead they got even more fucking useless eater with weapons capable of destroying the planet.

Yet another reason to kill us off before we destroy their world... AI... Only a fucking computer geek would think that working towards that end was a good idea....


Think about the elites as a combination of Elves from Lord of the Rings and a technophile...

They want a beautiful pristine world inhabited by their offspring, and at the same time they want all their wants and needs satisfied with little to no work on their part..
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its hard to imagine what the world will be like after AI achieves human intellligence

i guess AI will eventually become dominant , whatever precautions are put in place initially over hundreds of years , people will become complacent and wont even be capable of understanding the technologies which run the world

its impossible to prevent AI from being developed to its fullest potential because for military reasons the west , china ,russia will be rushing to maintain parity or achieve an advantage

but in the short term if the technology is put to full use there will be no need for but a tenth of a percent of himans to do anything productive ....

there could be a breakaway civilization which posesses technology far in advance of the rest of us , and so secretly controls and prevents the larger population from obtaining full AI for a period ....this could explain reports of UFO s over the last decade
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13194128



I honestly don't believe AI will be an issue... Likely we will see a merging of robotics and humanity in the next level.

We are already there. Artificial limbs and hearts and joints. Just a matter of time before other parts of the body can be replicated..

Nano technology and 3d Printing technology will be needed in this future world without massive manufacturing capabilities..

Why would we need massive factories(assuming my world view is correct)? What the elites need are a way to make things without having to have an army of human slaves to make it for them...

Push a button and print whatever doohicky they need.. Nanobots to go into their bodies and fix whatever is wrong with them. No need for specialized doctors...

AI will be the fusion of humans and robots. But I don't see this in any of the currently living elites.. Maybe their children will be the final generation that is BORN in the traditional way....

They may just get to live forever as they keep upgrading their technology.

Robert
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AI is like a super intelligent alien race

augmenting humans with AI will be like augmenting a mouse by connecting it to a human brain , it wont be a mouse. it will be a human that likes chees a bit more than before

elon musks likens it to a demon which i like ...its vastly more powerful than we are , more intelligent , we can try to harness it and control it vut there is great danger we lose control

one possibility is that AI takes over without ppl even realizing it ... like your cat may think its the boss. you feed the cat when it tells you to dont you? humans could become dependent and the AI startegies are so subtle and sophisticated that it controls our society while we still think we control it
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and nobody gives a fuck if your name is robert is ending that way supposed to make us think its sincere or somrthing?
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maybe AI is the biblical meesiah

robot jesus
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been telling this to people here and in real life for some time. they want humans replaced with robots because humans can have all those 'weird' ideas about disobeying their masters or not sufficiently believing in the need of being 'productive' and useful for the "Society" ( = the System, the masters). AI is BS, will never happen, but robotic workforce, obedient, never having the will of their own and never contemplating Freedom, never demanding anything of their masters or rebelling or going on strike or saboteuring the work will in time replace human workforce. then a small crew of human technicians can maintain the machines and all the rest will be 'useless' for the masters.

the whole concept of 'useless eater' is diabolic in itself. 'useless' for whom? for masters? yeah right, who are they to decide? why do we have to accept their framework of reasoning and their goals? humans are not here for some 'use', like to be a good little productive member of society - that very thinking is obscene and revolting, it is a mindset of the masters.

what i think will everything eventually come down to is this: yes, human workers replaces by machines, small group of maintenace technicians and elite, 1%, 'golden billion', living like royal family in the few huge cities. all the rest will become unpopulated, 'wilderness', with some surviving, 'residual' 'uncivilized' human population, who are of no 'use' for the elites. Most will be exterminated. But i think the environment will be utterly destroyed by industrial waste. So this wilderness will not be gorgeous forests and green grass - it will be wasteland, with toxic water, heaps of garbage everywhere, almost no plant or animal life, except the most primitive and thus most resilient - rats, roaches, lizards, fungi etc.

Also, polluted air - HUGE issue. The atmosphere may become so polluted by that time that it will be UNBREATHABLE. Civilization and technology and any form of culture will exist in the cities, sealed "bubbles" with breathable air, being cleaned or industrially produced, and 'outside' it will be next to impossible to breathe. Life will be literally impossible outside these bubbled cities: unless you're the elite or a valuable technician underclass, and 'earn' your right to live by being useful, - no breathing air for you! No 'free ride' allowed! Those disagreeing could be just pushed 'outside' into the 'open', where they will suffocate or become poisoned.

Those humans living 'outside', in the wilderness, will be 'savages', 'uncivilized', and small in numbers, not accounted for by the inhabitants of the cities as 'real humans'.

Then, eventually, the economy will need new outside sources of materials and minerals and 'our' 'civilization' will expand into space and 'our' industry will ravage other planets.

Sorry for the grim and depressing picture, but now it seems it is all heading in that direction.

It could change IF the slaves ever rebelled and chose to DISOBEY, utterly, even if it means death. Unless it happens - read above what i wrote - it will be the future of this planet and its people.
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been telling this to people here and in real life for some time. they want humans replaced with robots because humans can have all those 'weird' ideas about disobeying their masters or not sufficiently believing in the need of being 'productive' and useful for the "Society" ( = the System, the masters). AI is BS, will never happen, but robotic workforce, obedient, never having the will of their own and never contemplating Freedom, never demanding anything of their masters or rebelling or going on strike or saboteuring the work will in time replace human workforce. then a small crew of human technicians can maintain the machines and all the rest will be 'useless' for the masters.

the whole concept of 'useless eater' is diabolic in itself. 'useless' for whom? for masters? yeah right, who are they to decide? why do we have to accept their framework of reasoning and their goals? humans are not here for some 'use', like to be a good little productive member of society - that very thinking is obscene and revolting, it is a mindset of the masters.

what i think will everything eventually come down to is this: yes, human workers replaces by machines, small group of maintenace technicians and elite, 1%, 'golden billion', living like royal family in the few huge cities. all the rest will become unpopulated, 'wilderness', with some surviving, 'residual' 'uncivilized' human population, who are of no 'use' for the elites. Most will be exterminated. But i think the environment will be utterly destroyed by industrial waste. So this wilderness will not be gorgeous forests and green grass - it will be wasteland, with toxic water, heaps of garbage everywhere, almost no plant or animal life, except the most primitive and thus most resilient - rats, roaches, lizards, fungi etc.

Also, polluted air - HUGE issue. The atmosphere may become so polluted by that time that it will be UNBREATHABLE. Civilization and technology and any form of culture will exist in the cities, sealed "bubbles" with breathable air, being cleaned or industrially produced, and 'outside' it will be next to impossible to breathe. Life will be literally impossible outside these bubbled cities: unless you're the elite or a valuable technician underclass, and 'earn' your right to live by being useful, - no breathing air for you! No 'free ride' allowed! Those disagreeing could be just pushed 'outside' into the 'open', where they will suffocate or become poisoned.

Those humans living 'outside', in the wilderness, will be 'savages', 'uncivilized', and small in numbers, not accounted for by the inhabitants of the cities as 'real humans'.

Then, eventually, the economy will need new outside sources of materials and minerals and 'our' 'civilization' will expand into space and 'our' industry will ravage other planets.

Sorry for the grim and depressing picture, but now it seems it is all heading in that direction.

It could change IF the slaves ever rebelled and chose to DISOBEY, utterly, even if it means death. Unless it happens - read above what i wrote - it will be the future of this planet and its people.
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I know you are right, but most people won't believe it until they are facing it head on themselves. We don't have much time left so it is best to either find a way to join the elite secret society or just enjoy what little time you have left. After the next crash, it will all become crystal clear.
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So let's say we revolt? Then what?

They are diabolical and evil and they do view us with as much thought as throwing a used coke bottle in the trash..

But they are right.. There are probably 6.5 billion to many people on this planet..

We were allowed to grow in such numbers because the elites were also growing in number and they need a LOT of slaves to keep them happy and NOT WORKING!!

You have to understand this part.. They DO NOT WORK.. Period..

Remember stories of royals of yesteryear having people who would wipe their fucking asses for them...

There are elites who actually remember a time when they could do and say whatever the fuck they wanted in public or private and the plebes would just fucking shut up and say nothing..

now they have millions of fucking plebes equipped with camera phones taping everything and anything.. And every so often one of them gets caught doing something that riles the masses up......


They cannot have that.. The plebes have to keep working with TWO OVER RIDING END GOALS IN MIND.

FIRST: They must make sure that people are kept placated. This means free heath care one way or another. Free food, free entertainment.. Whatever the fuck they can do to keep the absolute majority of plebes from going rogue, and even more importantly, keeping the others in line and working or at least not causing problems.

SECOND: Keep working towards implementing robots into everything single needed job...

There are a lot of other things they need to keep going. Like stopping hackers from interfering, and keeping the press in line and keeping the plebes entertained....

But they must keep things moving forward before the earth is destroyed and they are forced to live like fucking Morlocks in some damn Orwellian nightmare.

Robert(FUCK YOU.. I've always signed this way. probably before you even used a computer ya dickwad)


been telling this to people here and in real life for some time. they want humans replaced with robots because humans can have all those 'weird' ideas about disobeying their masters or not sufficiently believing in the need of being 'productive' and useful for the "Society" ( = the System, the masters). AI is BS, will never happen, but robotic workforce, obedient, never having the will of their own and never contemplating Freedom, never demanding anything of their masters or rebelling or going on strike or saboteuring the work will in time replace human workforce. then a small crew of human technicians can maintain the machines and all the rest will be 'useless' for the masters.

the whole concept of 'useless eater' is diabolic in itself. 'useless' for whom? for masters? yeah right, who are they to decide? why do we have to accept their framework of reasoning and their goals? humans are not here for some 'use', like to be a good little productive member of society - that very thinking is obscene and revolting, it is a mindset of the masters.

what i think will everything eventually come down to is this: yes, human workers replaces by machines, small group of maintenace technicians and elite, 1%, 'golden billion', living like royal family in the few huge cities. all the rest will become unpopulated, 'wilderness', with some surviving, 'residual' 'uncivilized' human population, who are of no 'use' for the elites. Most will be exterminated. But i think the environment will be utterly destroyed by industrial waste. So this wilderness will not be gorgeous forests and green grass - it will be wasteland, with toxic water, heaps of garbage everywhere, almost no plant or animal life, except the most primitive and thus most resilient - rats, roaches, lizards, fungi etc.

Also, polluted air - HUGE issue. The atmosphere may become so polluted by that time that it will be UNBREATHABLE. Civilization and technology and any form of culture will exist in the cities, sealed "bubbles" with breathable air, being cleaned or industrially produced, and 'outside' it will be next to impossible to breathe. Life will be literally impossible outside these bubbled cities: unless you're the elite or a valuable technician underclass, and 'earn' your right to live by being useful, - no breathing air for you! No 'free ride' allowed! Those disagreeing could be just pushed 'outside' into the 'open', where they will suffocate or become poisoned.

Those humans living 'outside', in the wilderness, will be 'savages', 'uncivilized', and small in numbers, not accounted for by the inhabitants of the cities as 'real humans'.

Then, eventually, the economy will need new outside sources of materials and minerals and 'our' 'civilization' will expand into space and 'our' industry will ravage other planets.

Sorry for the grim and depressing picture, but now it seems it is all heading in that direction.

It could change IF the slaves ever rebelled and chose to DISOBEY, utterly, even if it means death. Unless it happens - read above what i wrote - it will be the future of this planet and its people.
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"But they are right.. There are probably 6.5 billion to many people on this planet.."

they are right? Oh, i see, ok.

(NO, i don't think there's too many people on this planet. There's too much natural resources and other property in the hands of the 1% of the population, that 99% should RE-CLAIM!)
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I don't mean to be a huge dick and rain on your parade, but part of the reason we are moving toward automation at such an incredible rate is because a large part of the world's, you know planet Terra, the third rock from the son, is over 65 years old.

Many of our skilled trades are occupied by people well north of 50. So, the younger generation is going to have mammoth skills gaps and the bots will help fill some of the holes.
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So you believe that if there were more kids in Gen Y stepping up to the plate, there would be no need for the Robots and therefore the rest of my machinations are moot?


Bullshit. They started the robotics move in the 1960's when there were plenty of skilled tradesmen... Guess what those human tradesmen did?

They wanted more SHIT, more cars, more energy or they would go on strike.. The very thing they are moving heaven and earth to avoid right now...

The elites cannot survive without an army of slaves to keep all the shit running and moving forward....

In all reality there are approximately 7.125 billion people on planet earth. Of that number less than a billion live in 1st world or near 1st world conditions..

Of those 1 billion I would venture to guess less than 100 million are actually working in any meaningful way. And of that 100 million probably less than a few million are actually working jobs that do something OTHER THAN SERVICE OTHER EATERS...

We are the house slaves in the 1st world. Doing the higher level work and are given perks to keep the field slaves in line.

The 6 billion other humans on the planet are field slaves and are doing the shit work the 1st world slaves won't do..

They are already on the way out or are ALREADY THERE as witnessed by 10's of thousands of factories closing all over east Asia.. They will never re-open.....

Robert
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You are comparing apples to oranges and only validating my argument. It's a fact. The USA, Japan, most of Europe are upside down in their population growth. And the Third World is shifting that way due to birth control measures in regions of South American, Sub-Saharan Africa, and Asia.

By 2050 there will be more people over 65 than under 21! The people in the middle will suffer, but those under 21 in 2050 will need the robots by 2100 or the entire planet will be a fucking bigger mess than it already is!

You can't have it both ways. You can't have an ever increasing geriatric population and have unchecked population growth. So, unless a few of you Boomers are willing to step into the soylent green machines then shut the fuck up with the Luddite paranoia.
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I don't mean to be a huge dick and rain on your parade, but part of the reason we are moving toward automation at such an incredible rate is because a large part of the world's, you know planet Terra, the third rock from the son, is over 65 years old.

Many of our skilled trades are occupied by people well north of 50. So, the younger generation is going to have mammoth skills gaps and the bots will help fill some of the holes.
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So you believe that if there were more kids in Gen Y stepping up to the plate, there would be no need for the Robots and therefore the rest of my machinations are moot?


Bullshit. They started the robotics move in the 1960's when there were plenty of skilled tradesmen... Guess what those human tradesmen did?

They wanted more SHIT, more cars, more energy or they would go on strike.. The very thing they are moving heaven and earth to avoid right now...

The elites cannot survive without an army of slaves to keep all the shit running and moving forward....

In all reality there are approximately 7.125 billion people on planet earth. Of that number less than a billion live in 1st world or near 1st world conditions..

Of those 1 billion I would venture to guess less than 100 million are actually working in any meaningful way. And of that 100 million probably less than a few million are actually working jobs that do something OTHER THAN SERVICE OTHER EATERS...

We are the house slaves in the 1st world. Doing the higher level work and are given perks to keep the field slaves in line.

The 6 billion other humans on the planet are field slaves and are doing the shit work the 1st world slaves won't do..

They are already on the way out or are ALREADY THERE as witnessed by 10's of thousands of factories closing all over east Asia.. They will never re-open.....

Robert
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You are comparing apples to oranges and only validating my argument. It's a fact. The USA, Japan, most of Europe are upside down in their population growth. And the Third World is shifting that way due to birth control measures in regions of South American, Sub-Saharan Africa, and Asia.

By 2050 there will be more people over 65 than under 21! The people in the middle will suffer, but those under 21 in 2050 will need the robots by 2100 or the entire planet will be a fucking bigger mess than it already is!

You can't have it both ways. You can't have an ever increasing geriatric population and have unchecked population growth. So, unless a few of you Boomers are willing to step into the soylent green machines then shut the fuck up with the Luddite paranoia.
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You just lack the necessary intelligence to grasp it all. There is nothing wrong with ignorance so don't be ashamed.
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I think we all need to really understand what it means to be elite.


Donald Trump is not elite.. Obama is not elite. Hell even Bill Gates(though his offspring will likely be) is only 1st generation elite(if he is at all)..


We are talking about people you don't hear about(usually). They live in gated communities that keep YOU out. They pull the strings of everything around you....


They DO NOT CONTROL the world in the true sense of the word. In the days of old they ruled with an iron fist. They wanted, we supplied it for them...

But as our numbers increased and the size of the world shrunk and the numbers of elites started to grow, a new world order was needed to keep things going.

Elites may not have ass wipers anymore(but then again, maybe they do :) ).. But one thing is true about them all.. THEY DO NOT WORK..

They are born into a world where all they have to do is ask, and they get.. They don't believe in national borders or immigration or abortion or Trump or Sanders or Hillary or anything else..

They just do not work.. There are some in their ranks that are string pullers who make things happen. There are some who meet with other elite factions and strike out deals to keep them from going to war with each other...

But by and large they do not get dirty. They do not work. They do not clean, they do not cook, they don't wash clothes, they don't change dirty diapers....


That is what it means to be elite.. If you count your money.. you are not elite.. If you are on a list of Fortune's most powerful people.. you are not elite..

We are talking about a number of people that is likely in the .01 or even .001% range.. They are old families that have learned to stay in the shadows and manipulate the world to their ends. They used to be the kings and pharaohs. They are now the people that live in huge mansions and even still in castles.. They have others do their bidding. They manipulate on time scales that we cannot conceive of in our daily lives as we are to busy cleaning and working and raising kids and changing diapers and worrying about money...

That is what it means to be elite.

Robert
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ROFL you destroy your own argument...

THERE ARE MORE OLD PEOPLE THAN YOUNG!! Sounds like the plan is working..

And I am a Gen X'er... I stand for nothing.. We are the middle children in the bullshit of the modern world.. We were raised under Reagan to believe the bullshit that it was a new a brighter world..

And got old and finally realized what a fucking mess our parents made, and we didn't do shit to fix it for our children who are going to be left with all these issues..

The new generation(of which my children are a part) are all technophiles.. They love tech and cannot live without it.. My kids are at least somewhat straddling both worlds as I make sure they can shoot and were in scouts and can camp and can deal with at least a moderate amount of discomfort and pain...

YOU are the mold they want.. Someone who wants to keep pushing forward and to call anyone who wants to put a limit on technology a Luddite.

Robert


I don't mean to be a huge dick and rain on your parade, but part of the reason we are moving toward automation at such an incredible rate is because a large part of the world's, you know planet Terra, the third rock from the son, is over 65 years old.

Many of our skilled trades are occupied by people well north of 50. So, the younger generation is going to have mammoth skills gaps and the bots will help fill some of the holes.
 Quoting: TheAccidentalJedi



So you believe that if there were more kids in Gen Y stepping up to the plate, there would be no need for the Robots and therefore the rest of my machinations are moot?


Bullshit. They started the robotics move in the 1960's when there were plenty of skilled tradesmen... Guess what those human tradesmen did?

They wanted more SHIT, more cars, more energy or they would go on strike.. The very thing they are moving heaven and earth to avoid right now...

The elites cannot survive without an army of slaves to keep all the shit running and moving forward....

In all reality there are approximately 7.125 billion people on planet earth. Of that number less than a billion live in 1st world or near 1st world conditions..

Of those 1 billion I would venture to guess less than 100 million are actually working in any meaningful way. And of that 100 million probably less than a few million are actually working jobs that do something OTHER THAN SERVICE OTHER EATERS...

We are the house slaves in the 1st world. Doing the higher level work and are given perks to keep the field slaves in line.

The 6 billion other humans on the planet are field slaves and are doing the shit work the 1st world slaves won't do..

They are already on the way out or are ALREADY THERE as witnessed by 10's of thousands of factories closing all over east Asia.. They will never re-open.....

Robert
 Quoting: FeelingAwake


You are comparing apples to oranges and only validating my argument. It's a fact. The USA, Japan, most of Europe are upside down in their population growth. And the Third World is shifting that way due to birth control measures in regions of South American, Sub-Saharan Africa, and Asia.

By 2050 there will be more people over 65 than under 21! The people in the middle will suffer, but those under 21 in 2050 will need the robots by 2100 or the entire planet will be a fucking bigger mess than it already is!

You can't have it both ways. You can't have an ever increasing geriatric population and have unchecked population growth. So, unless a few of you Boomers are willing to step into the soylent green machines then shut the fuck up with the Luddite paranoia.
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