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Veteran beat up by cops after calling VA suicide hotline for help

 
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Makes perfect sense. If I were a cop and had to go to a known nut house, you better believe my tazer would be fully charged and a round in the chamber with the safety off.
 Quoting: BRIEF


The point was they had no fucking business there at all. Other vets are going to start meeting these scum when they're not at work, and they will cry like the bullies they are.

Just remember to wear gloves brothers.
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Then who is supposed to go make the baby take his medicine?
 Quoting: BRIEF


he didn't need "meds". He needed a SAFE SPACE.

he felt threatened..and then his fears were realized. some 'help'.
 Quoting: JessKira Kadwalladyr


and yet the hospital gave him Haldol and placed him in an induced coma to calm him down....yeah, it's all the cops fault for not having Haldol on em.....
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As a veteran and constantly going through the VA's BS. I feel for the brother....but what else could the cops do?
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As a veteran and constantly going through the VA's BS. I feel for the brother....but what else could the cops do?
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Im right with the fellow that said meet them at their houses....that goes for EVERYONE up the chain of command too.
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And you believe that part without question? Cops think a dog 2 blocks away taking a shit is "attacking" them. I'm surprised the article doesn't mention the part where they shoot the dog while it was sleeping.
 Quoting: Thor Fury


Well I'm not a cop hater, so yeah I believe it.
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


It's not believable. LOE make-up lies all the time on their reports. Unless someone video's the incident the truth will never come out. On any incident were the truth does come out the officer are never fired and get paid leave during a investigation. The system is broken.

rockon

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The system is......CRIMINAL, not just broken.
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Not only criminal but hitler level psychotic
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There is such a thing as good cops. They're just greatly outnumbered by the bad ones
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As long as there is one bad cop still in uniform, they're ALL bad. If they can't police themselves....

I've seen a few timid cops that could be mistaken for good, but they were always under supervision of a psychopath. Never mistake 'uninitiated' for good.
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Try to get your dog to attack a cop, that's going to happen.
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And you believe that part without question? Cops think a dog 2 blocks away taking a shit is "attacking" them. I'm surprised the article doesn't mention the part where they shoot the dog while it was sleeping.
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its a shame how us Veterans are treated.
I am a disabled veteran.
I served and did things I am NOT proud of. But I did them because I signed up for it.

The veteran needed real help. It's sad and pathetic what treatment we get. All of the VA hospitals are inept and uneducated and have no resources for anything.

I sit up every night seeing and reliving all the damaging things I did. I cope and manage every day and I power through it like I did when I was in combat.

All of this makes me to want purchase some property somewhere and start up a housing community for Veterans. I've been looking at property sites to where I could gather funds to purchase and build a site similar to a military base. But to house veterans. Where there is a medical facility, recreational facilities, adequate housing... round the clock doctors and nurses.. etc etc.

im currently putting together a plan
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70293387


Thank you for serving regardless, that won't be forgot.

USA
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After reading several of your posts I see you are either a paid shill or are really misinformed.
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Wow, and being analyzed by some dipshit on the internet means what to me?

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Pulled this put for you, ya commie red fuck.

yousuck
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You still don't understand that the communists are running this country. You went full retard...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71382059



No shit, but having less military is the dumbest thing I have heard.

Guess you jumped on the retard train too dipshit.
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


If no one joins, we have no military and a huge militia. You do the math, dumbo. Problem solved, and people like you can get sent back to whatever shit hole you're from. We don't need low IQ hacks like you entering discourse in this country.
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Lmao. I was born here, in this country jack. I'll be here forever.
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Re: Veteran beat up by cops after calling VA suicide hotline for help
Try to get your dog to attack a cop, that's going to happen.
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


Yes... Because we all know that police are a very very special class of citizen, who should be totally unrestrained from abusing people and violating their "constitutionally protected" rights.

We all know that electrocution and torture with hundreds of thousands of volts along with vicious baton blows and drug induced comas are all part of the warm and fuzzy NWO that our Founding Fathers envisioned for Americans.

Right?

Right!
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Re: Veteran beat up by cops after calling VA suicide hotline for help
its a shame how us Veterans are treated.
I am a disabled veteran.
I served and did things I am NOT proud of. But I did them because I signed up for it.

The veteran needed real help. It's sad and pathetic what treatment we get. All of the VA hospitals are inept and uneducated and have no resources for anything.

I sit up every night seeing and reliving all the damaging things I did. I cope and manage every day and I power through it like I did when I was in combat.

All of this makes me to want purchase some property somewhere and start up a housing community for Veterans. I've been looking at property sites to where I could gather funds to purchase and build a site similar to a military base. But to house veterans. Where there is a medical facility, recreational facilities, adequate housing... round the clock doctors and nurses.. etc etc.

im currently putting together a plan
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70293387


Thank you for serving regardless, that won't be forgot.

USA
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


After reading several of your posts I see you are either a paid shill or are really misinformed.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61183626


Youre a fucking idiot....a dude is laying it all out in a forum and thats your comeback? Youre a punk fucking idiot...

The problem with Meds and the VA is the VA could give a fuck less...theyre there for paychecks and bonuses. They put me on a gram of zoloft for 6 years. The reason they did was about as stupid as you...but I knew I needed something before I seriously hurt someone....so zoloft it was....well they cold turkeyed me 4 times during the 6 years.

Youre a fucking scumbag.
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Re: Veteran beat up by cops after calling VA suicide hotline for help
There is such a thing as good cops. They're just greatly outnumbered by the bad ones
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71686949


As long as there is one bad cop still in uniform, they're ALL bad. If they can't police themselves....

I've seen a few timid cops that could be mistaken for good, but they were always under supervision of a psychopath. Never mistake 'uninitiated' for good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53556577


Correct...

Those who are paid to back up evil, are just as guilty as those who are outright evil.

All that is necessary for evil to flourish, is for "good" men to do nothing.

So-called "good" cops lie in court to back up their buddies. They assist evil cops in the commissions of evil deeds.

If there ARE any "good" cops left, then they are truly a highly endangered species.
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Re: Veteran beat up by cops after calling VA suicide hotline for help
maybe just being put on hold or disconnected period would have been a 'better' option? It is one that takes place far too often. I know I would NEVER call a VA hotline number. ever.

Sitting on the floor of her suburban Chicago living room, Hughes attempted to slash her wrist but didn’t draw blood, and says she passed out from anxiety. Her 12-year-old discovered her there on the floor with the knife beside her.

Hughes decided that night to turn to the national Veterans Crisis Line, a 24-hour, seven-day-a week service that promises an immediate, open line to professional help. But when Hughes phoned, she said, her call went straight to hold. After several minutes, she became frustrated and hung up.

“I would never call the hotline again,” said Hughes. She said she needed to quickly get to someone that night who could give her help and reassurance.

“That’s what I wanted,” she said. “Someone to make me feel that I mattered.” After reaching out to a local veterans group, someone arrived at her home that night.

Several complaints about the crisis line prompted the Coalition of Veterans Organizations to describe it as “seriously deficient” in a letter to the Department of Veterans Affairs last year.

Veterans calling for help got voicemail or no answer, according to the letter. It said others were told only to contact a local VA facility for help. The letter prompted the Inspector General for the VA to begin an inspection of the program, which is ongoing.


[link to www.wcpo.com]

I have been waiting to see someone for mental health in my area via the VA choice plan for two years now, by the way.

and NO I am not sucidal.

I have ptsd.
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I worked hard to educate people about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq before we went in. I was called unpatriotic because I didn't support those wars, or the neo-cons behind them. And now another generation of the best this country has to offer is hanging on by a thread...

The only good that can come from this now is to discourage every person you know, young and old, from serving in the armed forces until we are restored to a Constitutional Republic, until the profound corruption is rooted out of the Supreme Court, Congress, and the Executive Branch. Until that time, NO ONE join the armed forces. You will be poisoned, used to commit atrocities, make the world's richest men richer and more powerful, and to make the poorest even poorer and more powerless, with an even greater hatred for America and Americans.

It is the only solution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71382059


Tell me how paying taxes is any different. Telling people not to join the military and calling yourself patriotic is like these dumbass white kids that listen to rap. You're a walking cliche loser.
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


The military leadership in the United States serves the enemy of the United States, so when you join and serve honorably in the military, you are aiding the enemy of the United States.

It is really simple, but people have been inundated with programming since the cradle to not see the enemy, and not only not see, but to serve the enemy.

Our military will work tirelessly with other governments and militaries around the world to end American sovereignty. And people like you, will support them, whether knowingly or unknowingly. You have worked to destroy this country. Your deeds will not easily be forgotten, unless you pull your head out and figure out what is going on in this world, and then work to defeat the enemy.
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Pulled this put for you, ya commie red fuck.

yousuck
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


Your brainwashing was quite efficient. The poster you are insulting is the real patriot, not you.

You refuse to recognize that your enemies are now inside the walls and are corroding you from the inside. That will not end well for you.
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Re: Veteran beat up by cops after calling VA suicide hotline for help
its a shame how us Veterans are treated.
I am a disabled veteran.
I served and did things I am NOT proud of. But I did them because I signed up for it.

The veteran needed real help. It's sad and pathetic what treatment we get. All of the VA hospitals are inept and uneducated and have no resources for anything.

I sit up every night seeing and reliving all the damaging things I did. I cope and manage every day and I power through it like I did when I was in combat.

All of this makes me to want purchase some property somewhere and start up a housing community for Veterans. I've been looking at property sites to where I could gather funds to purchase and build a site similar to a military base. But to house veterans. Where there is a medical facility, recreational facilities, adequate housing... round the clock doctors and nurses.. etc etc.

im currently putting together a plan
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70293387


Thank you for serving regardless, that won't be forgot.

USA
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


After reading several of your posts I see you are either a paid shill or are really misinformed.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61183626


Youre a fucking idiot....a dude is laying it all out in a forum and thats your comeback? Youre a punk fucking idiot...

The problem with Meds and the VA is the VA could give a fuck less...theyre there for paychecks and bonuses. They put me on a gram of zoloft for 6 years. The reason they did was about as stupid as you...but I knew I needed something before I seriously hurt someone....so zoloft it was....well they cold turkeyed me 4 times during the 6 years.

Youre a fucking scumbag.
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Im hoping he was talking to me.
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its a shame how us Veterans are treated.
I am a disabled veteran.
I served and did things I am NOT proud of. But I did them because I signed up for it.

The veteran needed real help. It's sad and pathetic what treatment we get. All of the VA hospitals are inept and uneducated and have no resources for anything.

I sit up every night seeing and reliving all the damaging things I did. I cope and manage every day and I power through it like I did when I was in combat.

All of this makes me to want purchase some property somewhere and start up a housing community for Veterans. I've been looking at property sites to where I could gather funds to purchase and build a site similar to a military base. But to house veterans. Where there is a medical facility, recreational facilities, adequate housing... round the clock doctors and nurses.. etc etc.

im currently putting together a plan
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70293387


Thank you for serving regardless, that won't be forgot.

USA
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


After reading several of your posts I see you are either a paid shill or are really misinformed.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61183626


Youre a fucking idiot....a dude is laying it all out in a forum and thats your comeback? Youre a punk fucking idiot...

The problem with Meds and the VA is the VA could give a fuck less...theyre there for paychecks and bonuses. They put me on a gram of zoloft for 6 years. The reason they did was about as stupid as you...but I knew I needed something before I seriously hurt someone....so zoloft it was....well they cold turkeyed me 4 times during the 6 years.

Youre a fucking scumbag.
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Privacy is supposed to be legally guarded...they have not even considered this unless youre the patient and trying to get your own information.
I have a perfect example to the misdealings of the VA on another forum...
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Tell me how paying taxes is any different. Telling people not to join the military and calling yourself patriotic is like these dumbass white kids that listen to rap. You're a walking cliche loser.
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


The military leadership in the United States serves the enemy of the United States, so when you join and serve honorably in the military, you are aiding the enemy of the United States.

It is really simple, but people have been inundated with programming since the cradle to not see the enemy, and not only not see, but to serve the enemy.

Our military will work tirelessly with other governments and militaries around the world to end American sovereignty. And people like you, will support them, whether knowingly or unknowingly. You have worked to destroy this country. Your deeds will not easily be forgotten, unless you pull your head out and figure out what is going on in this world, and then work to defeat the enemy.
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Pulled this put for you, ya commie red fuck.

yousuck
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


Your brainwashing was quite efficient. The poster you are insulting is the real patriot, not you.

You refuse to recognize that your enemies are now inside the walls and are corroding you from the inside. That will not end well for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70233449


No I refuse to be unsupportive to my brothers who are currently in the military, I refuse to be unsupportive to my parents who were military.
But yeah you jackoffs who don't like the military are the heroes of our country. Lol
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It's not about the cop, it's about the VA who called the cops on him for being sick and needing help. The police aren't trained to deal with that situation and should never have been called to begin with.
 Quoting: NoGods/NoMasters


Since when do they need to be trained to have some compassion and self control? The answer is they are simply enforcer goons. Psychopathic scum. They go from zero to full retard in 2.5 seconds. The majority of police in our society cannot be trusted in any way. All potential murderers. Fuck em all.
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The military leadership in the United States serves the enemy of the United States, so when you join and serve honorably in the military, you are aiding the enemy of the United States.

It is really simple, but people have been inundated with programming since the cradle to not see the enemy, and not only not see, but to serve the enemy.

Our military will work tirelessly with other governments and militaries around the world to end American sovereignty. And people like you, will support them, whether knowingly or unknowingly. You have worked to destroy this country. Your deeds will not easily be forgotten, unless you pull your head out and figure out what is going on in this world, and then work to defeat the enemy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71382059


Pulled this put for you, ya commie red fuck.

yousuck
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


Your brainwashing was quite efficient. The poster you are insulting is the real patriot, not you.

You refuse to recognize that your enemies are now inside the walls and are corroding you from the inside. That will not end well for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70233449


No I refuse to be unsupportive to my brothers who are currently in the military, I refuse to be unsupportive to my parents who were military.
But yeah you jackoffs who don't like the military are the heroes of our country. Lol
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You just didn't understand and you interpreted his words in the most vulgar and easy way. Read again and try to really understand what he means. He is right. The USA has been taken from the inside. If you really care, deal with it appropriately. The USA you knew is not there anymore.
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Re: Veteran beat up by cops after calling VA suicide hotline for help
We have veterans that pay out of their pockets to take other veterans to a place called hines in Chicago. Because the service in Michigan is so bad.
The fact that other veterans have to pay for it is horrendous in itself.

See....Hines was really berated and put under a microscope when they came out with statistics about the medical professional vs the admin for the hospital.
Its been several years ago. It seems to me their were like 480 medical professionals...doctors, nurses, patient care. and like 5500 employees.
Speculations had it that the excess admin employees were there mainly to make sure everyone got their bonuses.
Anyway, theyve tightened the place up.
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Pulled this put for you, ya commie red fuck.

yousuck
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


Your brainwashing was quite efficient. The poster you are insulting is the real patriot, not you.

You refuse to recognize that your enemies are now inside the walls and are corroding you from the inside. That will not end well for you.
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No I refuse to be unsupportive to my brothers who are currently in the military, I refuse to be unsupportive to my parents who were military.
But yeah you jackoffs who don't like the military are the heroes of our country. Lol
 Quoting: Dr. Rorschach Watchmen


You just didn't understand and you interpreted his words in the most vulgar and easy way. Read again and try to really understand what he means. He is right. The USA has been taken from the inside. If you really care, deal with it appropriately. The USA you knew is not there anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70233449


I understand that this country is corrupt.

Do you understand that in the military you cant just put in your two weeks because you don't like what your POTUS said? You think people should throw their lives away and what, ultimately leave the armed forces? Doesn't work that way in real life. Only in you and your dreamboats glp fantasy. Dont quit your day job.
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Wrong. Very gentle people can be traumatised into having very bad thoughts about the things in the hardware store.

It is not the fault of cops who have no training that thwy are so afraid of a veterans they have to take him down hard, but you know some of them enjoyed it a little too much.

The sad thing is that its easier to think of ways to blow them up in their cars than to get them adequately trained.

Its a shame we have to live in this militarised police state.
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Re: Veteran beat up by cops after calling VA suicide hotline for help
not to mention that in some areas of the country already, certain addresses are even 'tagged' as being more 'prone to violence' and will rate a higher level of 'response'.

and if you don't think that 'crazy with ptsd' get put on those lists..well I've got a nice bridge to sell you.
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Makes perfect sense. If I were a cop and had to go to a known nut house, you better believe my tazer would be fully charged and a round in the chamber with the safety off.
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Cops are there to make sure you do not harm yourself or others, They are not trained very well to handle mental health issues.

So Vets, If your freaking out. Call 911 and ask for an AMBULANCE. They can sedate you and get you to a on call physiatrist at a hospital. Cops will just hand cuff you and take you to the hospital (if your lucky and you are not going full retard.)
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That should teach him about asking the government for help. If the government could help the world wouldnt look like this.
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What did those idiots expect? There is no v.a. team to come and get mentally unstable patients. ..
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EXACTLY. WHY THE FUCK NOT? WHERE ARE THE NICE MEN IN THE WHITE COATS WITH THE NONLETHAL AND LEAST HARMFUL SOLUTIONS?
he
where is the ambulance instead of the tasers?

fuck the padded room..where is the room with a listening ear that won't do further harm by false labels and massively overmedicating?

It's needed AND IT'S NOT THERE.
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Exactly. And I'm willing to bet there are other veterans who would gladly volunteer their time and experience for those who need it. But we need proper fully-staffed medical facilities staffed with compassionate and educated staff.
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What did those idiots expect? There is no v.a. team to come and get mentally unstable patients. ..
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EXACTLY. WHY THE FUCK NOT? WHERE ARE THE NICE MEN IN THE WHITE COATS WITH THE NONLETHAL AND LEAST HARMFUL SOLUTIONS?
he
where is the ambulance instead of the tasers?

fuck the padded room..where is the room with a listening ear that won't do further harm by false labels and massively overmedicating?

It's needed AND IT'S NOT THERE.
 Quoting: JessKira Kadwalladyr


Exactly. And I'm willing to bet there are other veterans who would gladly volunteer their time and experience for those who need it. But we need proper fully-staffed medical facilities staffed with compassionate and educated staff.
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Guess I need to say staff one more time, lol.
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Re: Veteran beat up by cops after calling VA suicide hotline for help
not to mention that in some areas of the country already, certain addresses are even 'tagged' as being more 'prone to violence' and will rate a higher level of 'response'.

and if you don't think that 'crazy with ptsd' get put on those lists..well I've got a nice bridge to sell you.
 Quoting: JessKira Kadwalladyr


Makes perfect sense. If I were a cop and had to go to a known nut house, you better believe my tazer would be fully charged and a round in the chamber with the safety off.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Cops are there to make sure you do not harm yourself or others, They are not trained very well to handle mental health issues.

So Vets, If your freaking out. Call 911 and ask for an AMBULANCE. They can sedate you and get you to a on call physiatrist at a hospital. Cops will just hand cuff you and take you to the hospital (if your lucky and you are not going full retard.)
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Why can't they sell sedative shots like they do the epipen for people with severe allergic reactions? That way when they crazy fucker goes full retard just jab him and take him to the hospital.
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Re: Veteran beat up by cops after calling VA suicide hotline for help
its a shame how us Veterans are treated.
I am a disabled veteran.
I served and did things I am NOT proud of. But I did them because I signed up for it.

The veteran needed real help. It's sad and pathetic what treatment we get. All of the VA hospitals are inept and uneducated and have no resources for anything.

I sit up every night seeing and reliving all the damaging things I did. I cope and manage every day and I power through it like I did when I was in combat.

All of this makes me to want purchase some property somewhere and start up a housing community for Veterans. I've been looking at property sites to where I could gather funds to purchase and build a site similar to a military base. But to house veterans. Where there is a medical facility, recreational facilities, adequate housing... round the clock doctors and nurses.. etc etc.

im currently putting together a plan
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Damn I wish I was a millionaire. These are the kinds of things that would make a real difference in the world. Best of luck to you. And thank you for protecting me and my family.
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What did those idiots expect? There is no v.a. team to come and get mentally unstable patients. ..
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EXACTLY. WHY THE FUCK NOT? WHERE ARE THE NICE MEN IN THE WHITE COATS WITH THE NONLETHAL AND LEAST HARMFUL SOLUTIONS?
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where is the ambulance instead of the tasers?

fuck the padded room..where is the room with a listening ear that won't do further harm by false labels and massively overmedicating?

It's needed AND IT'S NOT THERE.
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Exactly. And I'm willing to bet there are other veterans who would gladly volunteer their time and experience for those who need it. But we need proper fully-staffed medical facilities staffed with compassionate and educated staff.
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Hes righthf
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or make your peace some other way.”
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Re: Veteran beat up by cops after calling VA suicide hotline for help
not to mention that in some areas of the country already, certain addresses are even 'tagged' as being more 'prone to violence' and will rate a higher level of 'response'.

and if you don't think that 'crazy with ptsd' get put on those lists..well I've got a nice bridge to sell you.
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Makes perfect sense. If I were a cop and had to go to a known nut house, you better believe my tazer would be fully charged and a round in the chamber with the safety off.
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Cops are there to make sure you do not harm yourself or others, They are not trained very well to handle mental health issues.

So Vets, If your freaking out. Call 911 and ask for an AMBULANCE. They can sedate you and get you to a on call physiatrist at a hospital. Cops will just hand cuff you and take you to the hospital (if your lucky and you are not going full retard.)
 Quoting: Relativity


Why can't they sell sedative shots like they do the epipen for people with severe allergic reactions? That way when they crazy fucker goes full retard just jab him and take him to the hospital.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Tranq darts, I agree Brief. Just has to be a better way.
Cops are to trigger happy, and don't know how to handle and control their adrenalin. You will only find that in a seasoned cop. Trust me I know.
“In finding balance between lies and trust
there will never be a better source
than to speak your truth
or make your peace some other way.”
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Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.
-Gandalph

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Re: Veteran beat up by cops after calling VA suicide hotline for help
that's just it. I know I and MILLIONS of other veterans would volunteer our asses to be put on call lists for our phones so that if a veteran needs someone to talk to someone who cares is right there..


but then it would probably do away with the 'paid' system which is the only reason it hasn't been done yet.

the buddy system works best

if you have one, that is. without someone to help navigate the minfields of a stressed out response to daily existence even..

it's hell.





GLP