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Relativity User ID: 69703057 United States 04/11/2016 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its a shame how us Veterans are treated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70293387 I am a disabled veteran. I served and did things I am NOT proud of. But I did them because I signed up for it. The veteran needed real help. It's sad and pathetic what treatment we get. All of the VA hospitals are inept and uneducated and have no resources for anything. I sit up every night seeing and reliving all the damaging things I did. I cope and manage every day and I power through it like I did when I was in combat. All of this makes me to want purchase some property somewhere and start up a housing community for Veterans. I've been looking at property sites to where I could gather funds to purchase and build a site similar to a military base. But to house veterans. Where there is a medical facility, recreational facilities, adequate housing... round the clock doctors and nurses.. etc etc. im currently putting together a plan Thank you for serving regardless, that won't be forgot. USA Damn I wish I was a millionaire. These are the kinds of things that would make a real difference in the world. Best of luck to you. And thank you for protecting me and my family. Bravo....I am a disabled vet, got hurt in the line of duty....Whenever I feel like I am having a shitty day. I thing of another vet that got his/her limb blown off. Kinda puts things into perspective. Gov fucks vets...End of story. If you see one in your neighborhood. Don't thank them for their service. Fucking do something that would help them... Pay it forward. Just sayin. “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
darkwolf007 User ID: 69195067 United States 04/11/2016 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's just it in a nutshell. There are no resources except law enforcement. THAT IS IT. Quoting: JessKira Kadwalladyr It used to be there were places to have veterans go like nursing homes, and not just for old people. But to rest or to convalesce from 'shell shock'. today we just harm them and kill them. or abandon them. there ARE no resources. if there ever were. drugging and tasing and beating.. he's lucky he's not a woman, or would have run the risk of being raped too. . You don't need to have a vagina anymore to run a strong or stronger threat to be raped, Jess. You just need to have a vagina and/or an anus. Long as you got a hole such as a mouth you can be raped with. This is another very much valid reason why you should NEVER EVER join our Armed Forces. Obama as well as his predecessors mistreats our Service men and women endlessly. They drive our Service men and women to suicide very often. That's the actual reason why there is this looming threat of the next major Draft. Most of our Military haven't been even slightly harmed by Terrorism itself. Most of them don't even see any real action. They're drugged up to the point they're pretty much the Doom games' Gunner Zombies at all times. No wonder why our Military is killing each other and themselves at panic inducing rates. They aren't right in the head. Almost all of our Military personnel aren't fit to hold a fricken gun anymore, let alone be entrusted to continually invade other countries at our various corporations' whims. It took my Army veteran sister more than five years to quit drinking alcohol while and after she was Honorably Discharged from the Army. She's not allowed to tell anyone what she learned in Army Intelligence. Just know that even one bit of that classified information will get her and anyone hears the classified information killed. Before she left the Army... or really got kicked out because she's 100% disabled by the Army, she told us in the form of an offhand comment to watch out for the mosquitoes. Something very bad is coming. Maybe two or three months later all of the MSM sites and stations began to wildly report on massive surges in West Nile Virus infections all over the DFW area alongside most other major cities all across the U.S. So yeah... I deeply believe our Service men and women are subjected to and told things that seriously destroy them mind, body, and soul. Things that destroy who they used to be and now they're being reformed into hideous monsters mind, body, and soul by our Government and other Corporations as per their insane mandate(s). Luckily, my sister managed to do her best and quit the sauce. Especially since the alcohol seriously messed with her many meds. Our veterans are treated fucking worse(!!) than when they're in active duty. Why? My best guess is they're simply failed experiments and should be eliminated in the most inhumane and horrifying of possible ways. For me, I truly do feel sorry for these mistreated veterans. They went to hell across the world. They fought for what they believed was right which was helping to bring democracy to dictatorships and other non-democracy countries we've invaded thus far. They've done everything they could to help us out, but in the end... in the end they're endlessly tortured by a System that's simply designed to torture a Military veteran in ways that can never be accurately described in any language. Personally, this story simply enrages me quite alot. We should be respecting and thanking our Military service men and women for being able and actually doing so to help protect the U.S. from external threats. Wish we could use them to eliminate our internal threats as that'd be just grand by now. It's very much heartbreaking to know that our veterans are treated so poorly. It's very much heartbreaking to know that they're all so deeply broken inside that the in-place System would rather drug them to literal death than actually help them to heal mind, body, and soul. The drugs help to further alienate and far, far worse to our veterans and in turn us to them. Is the U.S. still the greatest country in the world? If you judge purely by how we treat our Military veterans... sadly the U.S. is a monstrous country and that's just putting that lightly. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
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darkwolf007 User ID: 69195067 United States 04/11/2016 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Granted the cops took it too far but he was clearly being aggressive to begin with, click bait much? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69871757 Quite possibly the veteran was simply wanting to be left alone initially but his family just wouldn't leave him alone or something. We may never know the full details of transpired to cause this deplorable cop act of violence on the veteran, AC. How would you react if you simply wanted to be left alone, the cops come to investigate? Chances are you'd firmly tell them to leave you be and close the door on them. The cops would do the very same to you, AC. So get your head out of your ass, please. You deserve to breathe fresh air too... Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
Terrebonne User ID: 71963706 United States 04/11/2016 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If no one joins, we have no military and a huge militia. You do the math, dumbo. Problem solved, and people like you can get sent back to whatever shit hole you're from. We don't need low IQ hacks like you entering discourse in this country. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71382059 If no one joins, then government will reinstate the draft and Shanghaied you into service. . INFJ; We are the protectors. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71996467 United States 04/11/2016 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know most of you don't to believe this, but in general cops HATE veteans, they literally detest them. There's a reason. SO many Cops tried to join the military but couldn't pass the test to get in or failed the physical or mental screening. Think about that. So they actively seek to make life hell for Veterans and Active Military at any opportunity. THEY along with the Courts are in many cases DIRECTLY responsible for most of the suicides, not only among veterans but i general because they take troubled people and remove any chance of hope for them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72009748 United States 04/11/2016 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not to mention that in some areas of the country already, certain addresses are even 'tagged' as being more 'prone to violence' and will rate a higher level of 'response'. Quoting: JessKira Kadwalladyr and if you don't think that 'crazy with ptsd' get put on those lists..well I've got a nice bridge to sell you. Makes perfect sense. If I were a cop and had to go to a known nut house, you better believe my tazer would be fully charged and a round in the chamber with the safety off. The point was they had no fucking business there at all. Other vets are going to start meeting these scum when they're not at work, and they will cry like the bullies they are. Just remember to wear gloves brothers. Then who is supposed to go make the baby take his medicine? Fuck you. No empathy for veterans whatsoever. Go suck a large one. |
Relativity User ID: 69703057 United States 04/11/2016 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know most of you don't to believe this, but in general cops HATE veteans, they literally detest them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71996467 There's a reason. SO many Cops tried to join the military but couldn't pass the test to get in or failed the physical or mental screening. Think about that. So they actively seek to make life hell for Veterans and Active Military at any opportunity. THEY along with the Courts are in many cases DIRECTLY responsible for most of the suicides, not only among veterans but i general because they take troubled people and remove any chance of hope for them. Sorry pal, have to disagree. Most cops come from the military, that's a fact!! many have mental issues of their own. unresolved. “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
darkwolf007 User ID: 69195067 United States 04/11/2016 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If no one joins, we have no military and a huge militia. You do the math, dumbo. Problem solved, and people like you can get sent back to whatever shit hole you're from. We don't need low IQ hacks like you entering discourse in this country. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71382059 If no one joins, then government will reinstate the draft and Shanghaied you into service. . Take a note or page from the Draft dodgers from the past then I suppose. I'm against the Draft regardless anyways. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
darkwolf007 User ID: 69195067 United States 04/11/2016 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know most of you don't to believe this, but in general cops HATE veteans, they literally detest them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71996467 There's a reason. SO many Cops tried to join the military but couldn't pass the test to get in or failed the physical or mental screening. Think about that. So they actively seek to make life hell for Veterans and Active Military at any opportunity. THEY along with the Courts are in many cases DIRECTLY responsible for most of the suicides, not only among veterans but i general because they take troubled people and remove any chance of hope for them. Sorry pal, have to disagree. Most cops come from the military, that's a fact!! many have mental issues of their own. unresolved. With the cop "world" so deeply influenced by steroids, other drugs, and how paranoid they're trained to be these days it's not hard to see how so many modern cops so easily snap at the drop of a hat. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
Balls_Deep User ID: 59526323 United States 04/11/2016 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn shame.... That is why Veterans need each other, because no one else gives two shits about them after they are done serving. I learned the lessons the hard way. Hopefully, this Veteran gets a good payday in conjunction with this beatdown, but truth be told, he will probably not get a dime, and will ultimately just end up with a criminal record as a result. I gave this country 15 years of my life, and although never beaten down physically, I can relate to his attempt at getting help. The military leaves us damaged, and sometimes unable to conform to a society who has never endured what some of us have endured. Last Edited by Zombie Jesus 2018 on 04/11/2016 03:44 PM The uncommon measure of a man is what he is willing to give up to elevate the next man. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43802579 United States 04/11/2016 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you believe that part without question? Cops think a dog 2 blocks away taking a shit is "attacking" them. I'm surprised the article doesn't mention the part where they shoot the dog while it was sleeping. Well I'm not a cop hater, so yeah I believe it. Well fuck you may the cops harass you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71987111 Italy 04/11/2016 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you believe that part without question? Cops think a dog 2 blocks away taking a shit is "attacking" them. I'm surprised the article doesn't mention the part where they shoot the dog while it was sleeping. Well I'm not a cop hater, so yeah I believe it. Wow,its intelligent to question things. Totally the opposite to insult people for doing do. How old are you? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71995251 Poland 04/11/2016 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not to mention that in some areas of the country already, certain addresses are even 'tagged' as being more 'prone to violence' and will rate a higher level of 'response'. Quoting: JessKira Kadwalladyr and if you don't think that 'crazy with ptsd' get put on those lists..well I've got a nice bridge to sell you. Makes perfect sense. If I were a cop and had to go to a known nut house, you better believe my tazer would be fully charged and a round in the chamber with the safety off. The point was they had no fucking business there at all. Other vets are going to start meeting these scum when they're not at work, and they will cry like the bullies they are. Just remember to wear gloves brothers. If one form you go full Dorner on them I could believe in it |
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Citizenperth User ID: 66515138 Australia 04/11/2016 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if that's the way they treat people who sign up with their lives to defend your homeland and way of life when they return with battle scars? it's time to stop signing up.... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71996467 United States 04/11/2016 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know most of you don't to believe this, but in general cops HATE veteans, they literally detest them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71996467 There's a reason. SO many Cops tried to join the military but couldn't pass the test to get in or failed the physical or mental screening. Think about that. So they actively seek to make life hell for Veterans and Active Military at any opportunity. THEY along with the Courts are in many cases DIRECTLY responsible for most of the suicides, not only among veterans but i general because they take troubled people and remove any chance of hope for them. Sorry pal, have to disagree. Most cops come from the military, that's a fact!! many have mental issues of their own. unresolved. No, that's a Lie. Not fact at all. Some do Most, absolutely NOT. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52195379 Netherlands 04/11/2016 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not to mention that in some areas of the country already, certain addresses are even 'tagged' as being more 'prone to violence' and will rate a higher level of 'response'. Quoting: JessKira Kadwalladyr and if you don't think that 'crazy with ptsd' get put on those lists..well I've got a nice bridge to sell you. Makes perfect sense. If I were a cop and had to go to a known nut house, you better believe my tazer would be fully charged and a round in the chamber with the safety off. The best way to think of cops is to imagine they're demons. They derive their joy from human misery. If you think explaining to a cop why you're sad is going to win you any sympathy or understanding, you might as well be showing a perv your tits. Your suffering to a cop is the equivalent of a hand job. They use human tears as sexual lubricant. The more miserable or vulnerable you are, the bigger their erection. Know that every word you say to them will be twisted in to something unintended, every cry for help ignored and any attempt at reasoning completely futile. I only realized this recently to my detriment while watching my world be twisted into a elizabethan melodrama that had nothing to do with reality so two cops could compound my misery for their own sexual gratification and monetary gain. You know how sociopaths like to hurt animals as children? Like that chick who crushes kittens with her heels or somebody who puts puppies in a sack and throws them in the river to get off? That's the police in a nutshell. The absolute worst thing you can do in any situation is a call a cop. You'd be better off being mugged, beaten, raped, stabbed or even killed than deal with the nightmare the police will rain down on your situation. You might as well be screaming 'help me Satan!' when you dial 911. Calling a cop is like being on fire and then pouring gas on yourself. Sure, being the victim of a crime sucks but at least its free and when its over, its over. Once the police are involved in your life, its forever...plus attorney fees. You are entirely correct. I am disabled. For more than 10 years I've been seriously harassed/stalked because of that. It's hate crime. I called the police in. In short, most of them were total cunts over years. Most of them will do anything - lie, cheat, intimidate, falsify evidence etc - to make you out (you as the victim) to be at fault somehow. In a similar case in my district, the police actually encouraged the offenders there to murder another disabled man, they flat out deliberately encouraged murderous, out of control offenders to kill a disabled, innocent man. (It was so blatantly bad that they couldn't cover that episode up and 2 LEOs are now in jail for what they did). Couldn't believe it. Just couldn't believe the profound perversion and the cruelty. To call it a 'nightmare' is like calling a nuclear bomb a firework. They, the police not the offender, drove me to a stress breakdown. I recovered by myself. Mainly because I accepted that my previous worldview (the one that most innocent people have : police are there to protect and serve, like doctors and nurses they will help you when you need help, the world is basically a good place and people are basically helpful/good etc) was completely inaccurate and that I needed to align my beliefs with the actual reality. The actual reality is that all the professions and most 'public services' are a massive confidence trick on ordinary people. The reality is that they do not care a shit about you. Doctors, nurses, police, ministers, churches, social services, politicians, lawyers, judges, so-called support for victims organizations - the whole stinking pile of them. They operate a self-referential, mutually supporting cycle of sadism and degradation towards ordinary people - and a form a comfortable untouchable clique for themselves. Basically they are taught by their seniors to look at good, innocent, decent or vulnerable regular people as nuisances at best and mostly as scum to be got rid of. Anyone tells you any different then you immediately know they're lying bastards that should be avoided like the plague. If ever I was in that situation again, I would never call the police. I'd be tempted to consider the offer I got from an army buddy who suggested sending in his squaddies to deal with the problem. That or I'd drive over a cliff. Because, face it. this has become a total cesspit sewer of a world. Who in their right mind wants to be here...? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52195379 Netherlands 04/11/2016 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There has to be more to the story. I know there are "some" bad people in Law Enforcement but I highly doubt they just attacked the guy without cause. Quoting: DungBeetle DungBeetle No, there probably isn't any more to the story. Going by lived experience. LEOs will lie, deceive, manipulate, falsify evidence, intimidate victims of crime for a pastime. |
Sledster User ID: 69522224 United States 04/11/2016 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 22 a day. Twenty two United States Veterans comit suicide every day. They have little hope, thanks to the VA. They have serious issues dealing with what they had to do and those they left behind. They put their asses on the line to defend the United States, and they are shunned, spit on and treated as criminals. Veterans of the last two decades had it bad, Vietnam Veterans had it worse. There must be, at some point, somewhere for these guys and gals to go for help, but the Police treat us all like scum, worse than murderers. Thank you Barack Hussein Obama for making our lives hell. We will not forget. I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already! Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick. |
JessKira Kadwalladyr (OP) User ID: 61499969 United States 04/11/2016 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ONE ON THE HOUR EVERY HOUR. I PRAY WITH ALL MY SOUL AND MIGHT AND HEART THAT WHEN A VETERAN IS SUICIDAL THEY AREN'T TOLD TO STOP WALLOWING IN SELF PITY BY SOME FUCKING COCKSUCKING ASSHOLE AND IT PUSHES THEM OVER THE EDGE. ALL veterans deserve better. all veterans deserve at least ONE REAL BUDDY who will stand there and be there for them no matter what. whether or not they ever get one. most don't and die because of it. |
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DungBeetle User ID: 71705218 United States 04/11/2016 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There has to be more to the story. I know there are "some" bad people in Law Enforcement but I highly doubt they just attacked the guy without cause. Quoting: DungBeetle DungBeetle No, there probably isn't any more to the story. Going by lived experience. LEOs will lie, deceive, manipulate, falsify evidence, intimidate victims of crime for a pastime. Here in the U.S. or the Netherlands? I have never had any bad encounters in the 10 or so times I have been pulled over or had called. DungBeetle Last Edited by DungBeetle on 04/11/2016 07:06 PM Striving to learn with an open mind. |
Fry The Brain User ID: 53909842 United States 04/11/2016 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its a shame how us Veterans are treated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70293387 I am a disabled veteran. I served and did things I am NOT proud of. But I did them because I signed up for it. The veteran needed real help. It's sad and pathetic what treatment we get. All of the VA hospitals are inept and uneducated and have no resources for anything. I sit up every night seeing and reliving all the damaging things I did. I cope and manage every day and I power through it like I did when I was in combat. All of this makes me to want purchase some property somewhere and start up a housing community for Veterans. I've been looking at property sites to where I could gather funds to purchase and build a site similar to a military base. But to house veterans. Where there is a medical facility, recreational facilities, adequate housing... round the clock doctors and nurses.. etc etc. im currently putting together a plan Thank you for serving regardless, that won't be forgot. USA After reading what was highlighted in red, above, I stopped for a moment to visually sense what it is like to experience what you have written. I've never been in combat, I've never served in the Military, I have suffered from extremely traumatic instances in my life, though probably not as severe as yours, nor some people on this forum. However, I think for a split moment in visualizing what it's like to wake up in the middle of the night being haunted by past memories, attacked on another level, I felt a little bit of that despair, just for a moment though. I can visualize, and imagine things & I feel for you brother. God Bless all of our Veterans. Every time I look at our flag, the color red always seems to grab my attention. It was the blood that was spilled for me, and others like me, as well as those that are not. Sacrifice, Not observable from a human perspective, but one can fathom. Live & Learn, Crash & Burn |