~NO CHRISTMAS TREES AT SEATTLE AIRPORT THANKS TO RABBI's DEMANDS !!

Children do you know what was that Whooshing sound ?


Correct ! That was the sound of Blue Dolphin's post flying right over 167395's blocked head !

yup !

why can't we all just get along ?!

What are you people going to do when ALL of the pagan holidays can NO longer be celebrated?

Thats right, that time is coming.

Everyone will be keeping the festivals of Lev. 23 & Hanukkah!!

Think about it - 8 days of presents verses 1 day?

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Hey here is a wierd kinda question...
Can it be determined what really originated the use of
the pine tree in celebrating the birth of Christ?

and/or

Could there be a connection between the pine tree and the pineal gland?

Seems so much has got purposefully mixed up lost and over time.

Just made me wonder as heaven is within
The pine shaped pineal gland being
our pscho/physiological connection to Christ.

And as being attacked on so many different levels
outrightly, symbolically and subliminally..

Who knows...

Don't matter..
They can't kill the Spirit of Christmas
No matter how hard they try..

Blue Dolphin, thanks for this thread. MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and everyone here.

Have you guys checked out The 2006 War on Christmas Competition at VDARE.com? Sometimes I can't read it, it is so depressing and makes me angry. I will have to read more about this Seattle airport situation. I do not understand how one man or one very small minority group of people can ruin things for everyone else this way. Why are people so afraid of "offending" someone? Why do they cave in to these PC demands? What pussies! And it is going to backfire, big time, because instead of offending one rabbi or a couple of his syagogue, they are going to offend the majority of the population of the US.

The best response would be to send the people involved an avalanche of very nice and sincere Christmas cards. I wonder if anyone is orchestrating a campaign to do so?

Here's the blog post on this from vdare's War Against Christmas page:



This year there has been a deluge of newspaper articles, letters to the editor, and blog postings all asserting that there is no War against Christmas. This seems to the party line. However, the word did not get out to the Seattle/Tacoma area:

All of the Christmas trees inside the terminal at Sea-Tac have been removed in response to a complaint by a rabbi.

A local rabbi wanted to install an 8-foot menorah and have a public lighting ceremony. He threatened to sue if the menorah wasn’t put up, and gave a two-day deadline to remove the trees.

Xmas trees removed from Sea-Tac by Kim Holcomb King 5 News Saturday September 9 2006

The real issue here is not the successful imposition of its preferences by a religious minority, but the enthusiastic cowardice by the authorities

Sea-Tac public affairs manager Terri-Ann Betancourt said the trees that adorn the Sea-Tac upper and lower levels may not properly represent all cultures…we don’t want to litigate with this individual, we want to reach some kind of solution,” Betancourt said. “But that is going to take some thoughtful discussion and we would like to have time to have that thoughtful discussion”

Until then, no Christmas decor at Sea-Tac. The same decorations have been put up for at least 10 years, she said.

How much litigation was likely in the two weeks before Christmas? Indeed, why not let the man have his Menorah? (Assuming he really wanted it.)

Some of my most precious memories as a small child are images of Christmas scenes in public places, briefly glimpsed and remembered forever. Now the season’s flow of children through the Seattle Airport will not have that chance there, as they would normally have done.

It would be easy to blame the domineering selfishness of the complainant. The true culprit is the conniving pusillanimity of the Airport management.

Complain to Mark Reis, the Airport’s Managing Director, or to the Commissioners of the Port of Seattle, to which it belongs – they are elected.

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using the word kill in the same sentence as spirit of christmas seems somehow ..... quite fitting.

AMALIA:
Thank you for that link. The pictures are wonderful! And they testify to what many of us have been trying to get across to the BOMB IRAN group.

I will include that link in my Christmas card this year.

Bless you.

Does it fit you?

I got no problem calling these people complete assholes.

Question:
Was there a "Lighting Ceremony" for the Christmas decorations at SEA-TAC? I couldn't find any reference to one in the article.

If there was no ceremony, then the Rabbi was completely out of line for requesting one for his Menorah.

I see no problem with SEA-TAC offering the Rabbi an appropriate space to display his Menorah, but it appears that the Rabbi wanted 'special' considerations that were above and beyond what was already done for the Christmas decorations.

i fail to see your point.

what i do see is that more people have been killed in the name of religion, or in the name of god, than for any other reason. it's sort of the ultimate excuse to kill. to say that there's a god in the sky who's telling me that you're an infidel and i should kill you is certainly the strongest argument that could be made. without that kind of supernatural rationale, the world would be much safer.

and under the first amendment, he _has_ that right, or don't you believe in the rights of others??

People Enjoy Christmas for the right reasons. I have noticed even Wallmart ain't busy. Everyone on Ebay is telling me they ain't buy or selling. We are changing can't you see. Material things are not a priority anymore, LOVE IS.......Remember all them little Love Is..... dolls in the 80's go paint one no matter how it turns out and give it to someone you love, and that gift of love is the Greatest most wonderful gift that any one could give or any one can have.

Only Love can change an enemy to a friend.
Only love heals the most deepest of wounds
Only love gives hope to those who have none.
Only Love will conquer
Love cannot be destroyed.Only people can.

So not only did the Rabbi request his own Minorah display complete with lighting cerimony...he demanded the Christmas trees be removed? Sounds more like a turf war. What greater venue to conquer for a spiritual "changing of the gaurd" than an airport during the holidays? Maybe a mall, but the point is that this is not going to be an isolate incodent. This Rabbi has set a precedent and others will follow next year for sure.

Now, as for the pineal gland analogy...you are definitely on to something there! I read and commented on several of the pineal gland thread, and it has become increasingly clear over the past few days of research that the grandest subversion of man has been purpetrated by suppressing the significance of our pineal and it's connection to All That Is. I urge GLPers to read the latest archived pineal threads (Shamanism & the Pineal, Christianity & the Pineal, Flouridation & the Pineal).

Back to the Christmas Tree Seize of '06...regardless of what your stance is on the symbols of Christianity vs the symbols of Paganism, the Rabbi has in one fell swoop replaced them with his own symbols. He didn't share the stage, he stole it. That to me is the issue at hand. Why the sudden need for the spotlight?





Merry Christmas!!!!

BlueDolphin, I understand your concern,

Back in 91-92 when I was still going in school, we were strictly forbidden to sing our national anthem at the school graduation, because the teachers were concerned that our muslim students would feel uncomfortable. Thing is I don`t think that the muslim students would have minded at all.

Either way, those who choosed to sing our national anthem anyway were not allowed to attend at the actuall graduation ceremony later that day in church. I thought to myself, "well it will pass, it`s just a phase, stupid teachers" etc

Last summer, when the kids graduated, they had moved the graduation ceremony out from the church to the gym hall, so the muslim students would not get offended.
So no national anthem and no church, I think it is so screwed up.

Most kids where I live never see the inside of a church and now they definetly wont. For what??

Soooo you think it's fair to remove a symbol that the majority embraces?

I SUPPOSE JESUS HAD A CHIRSTMAS TREE IN THE STABLE WHEN HE BORN? CHRISTMAS TREES HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTANITY NOR JESUS YOU INTELLECTUAL DWARF! GET OVER IT!

RELIGION SUCKS!

ALL OF EM - CHRISTIAN OR CATHOLIC OR PROTESTANT OR BAPTIST OR LUTHERAN OR METHODIST OR JEWISH OR ISLAM OR HINDU OR...

FUCK EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES IN A STUPID GOD!

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You sound educated. Where did you study?

Can we ban Jews from TV then?

OP, grow up & take your meds.

Try actually reading the Gospels and living what Jesus preached or

Hey! I have an idea!
Let's put back all the Christmas Trees...
And...BAN Rabbis!

P.s. OP, you aren't my brother in law, are you? Wife's name Mary? ;-)

Would there be anything left on TV???

The funny thing is that our current Christmas celebrations, music, etc. were made into a massive consumer event by the very people that protested the Christmas trees at the airport. Who stands to benefit the most by keeping us all buying, buying, buying at Christmas time?

Christmas used to be a quiet, more religious celebration until the major department stores and advertisers got into the act and turned it into a feeding frenzy of conspicuous consumerism.

:c - speake:

It is a real sad state of affairs
to see people get so mixed up
they hate what is good and love what is evil.

What the real reason for decorating/adorning a pine tree How it came to be a significant part of celebrating Christ Mass...
I am sure most of us will never really know.
But.. They are beautiful and we need as much of that as we can get.

In my meanderings thinking on the pine/pineal connection

I found some interesting stuff about ancient pine trees, that is the resin of fossilized prehistoric pine trees.

It is noted the resins exert a positive influence on the endocrine system, our spleen and heart.
Also these resins are noted to be healing, soothing, harmonizing and electrically alive with solidified golden light.

Stabilizes kundalini awakening.
Activates altruistic nature.
Spiritualizes the intellect.
Chakras: navel, solar plexus, crown.

Also said..
This resin or amber gemstone once it's made into goblet will not only detect, but burn away any poison it contains.

When burned, it still gives off a pine scent
(50 million years later!)

Oh, Christmas Tree! You sure have some amazing properties.