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Trump sued for sex crimes via Epstein -- HERE ARE THE FACTS (UPDATED).

 
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THIS IS NOT A PRO or ANTI-TRUMP THREAD. This is "finding the truth" thread.

I did some research and here are the facts on the story:


The claims against Trump in this new lawsuit are salacious and lurid, and you can read about them here -- really nasty stuff:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

FACTS (make your own conclusions):

1) Katie Johnson filed the lawsuit pro se, meaning she is representing herself. No attorney is listed in the court documents.

The phone number she lists in the filing is disconnected. It was previously listed as a cell phone number for a California dentist, who could not be reached.

Her listed address is a house in Twentynine Palms, California, that has been foreclosed and is vacant, neighbors told Radar Online.

2) Radar Online reports a source told them that another person named in the lawsuit "has never heard" of Katie Johnson, despite the fact this other person is a key witness.

3) "Katie Johnson" does not appear in Epstein's 197 page "black book", where all of the names of his other underage escorts had appeared.

4) Trump voluntarily participated in a 2010 lawsuit filed by the girl raped by Prince Andrew at Jeffery Epstein's pedo island. Her lawyer said it was "clear" Trump had no involvement with Epstein's crimes and was very helpful in providing information on Epstein.

5) Trump did know Epstein personally for many years, as he was a member of his Mar a Lago Club.

6) Trump banned Epstein from the club when Palm Beach Police caught Epstein messing around with young girls.

7) Trump has already publicly discussed Bill Clinton's PROVEN connection to Epstein's pedo island, suggesting Trump isn't afraid of the story or trying to hide from it.

8) In a sworn deposition, Epstein's house manager said Trump had been to Epstein's house before, but would eat dinner with him in the kitchen and not with "everyone else" (an odd statement, but should be added here).

9) Epstein, in a sworn deposition, was asked about Trump as follows:

Q: Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?

A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir."


(Note that this could simply mean Epstein did not want to implicate himself.)

10) Trump's phone number, his brother's number, his daughter's number and his first wife's number appear in Epstein's 197 page "black book" full of contact information, along with countless other people.

11) Trump once commented that it appeared Epstein liked "young girls", and seemed to joke about it.

12) VERY IMPORTANT info about the Pro-Trump site RadarOnline and its history, creation, former owners and current owners::

In 2004, Mortimer B. Zuckerman, the owner of The Daily News, and Jeffrey Epstein, a Wall Street financier, yesterday agreed to finance Radar, a celebrity and pop culture magazine that published two test issues last year.

Two executives involved in the negotiations said the backers, who were part of an unsuccessful bid for New York magazine last year, are committed to spending up to $25 million to back Radar and Maer Roshan, its editor in chief and founder.

HOWEVER... Maer Roshan is no longer in charge of Radar or Radar Online, not since 2011, I believe.

"Despite its seeming success, the print magazine was suddenly shuttered in 2008, after its primary backer, billionaire Ron Burkle, who owned a substantial interest in Star and National Enquirer publisher American Media, withdrew.

RadarOnline.com's founding staff was fired and replaced by reporters from the Enquirer and Star. RadarOnline.com was relaunched in March 2009 with a rebranding, focusing on celebrity items about gossip, fashion and pop culture. All of the articles previously published by RadarOnline.com were erased from the site."

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Radar Online is now owned by American Media, CEO is David Pecker, close Trump friend. Same guy who put out Cruz sex scandal in National Enquirer.


Looks like Epstein's ownership of Radar from 2004 faded away a long time ago. The old players who started it are gone, no longer involved.

So that connection might not be what we thought it was.

Radar Online is extremely PRO-TRUMP.

Some sources:

[link to radaronline.com]

[link to radaronline.com]

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Heres a secret. People who don't like trump don't believe a word dailymail says.Noticed his supporters seem to pay it atrention though.
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How do you explain the photo of Trump with Epstein's girlfriend (well known for pimping underage prostitutes)?
[link to i.dailymail.co.uk]
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Heres a secret. People who don't like trump don't believe a word dailymail says.Noticed his supporters seem to pay it atrention though.
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There's a lot of very believable news that comes off that website that just doesn't see the light of day in American media.
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"Defendant, Donald J.Trump, was clearly heard referring to Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein as a 'Jew Bastard' as he yelled at Defendant Epstein, that clearly, he, Defendant Trump, should be the lucky one to 'pop the cherry' of Plaintiff Johnson, according to the suit."

It's no secret Trump has a lot of "jew bastard" buddies:
[link to thezog.info]
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It's another typical Hillary Clinton hatchet job

that bitch needs a prison cell bad.
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How do you explain the photo of Trump with Epstein's girlfriend (well known for pimping underage prostitutes)?
[link to i.dailymail.co.uk]
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I have no idea. Could be a social function?

Epstein probably had a social persona, and a private one.

Let's say you have a neighbor. He invites you to dinner parties. He seems nice. Later, you find out he's a pedo. Does that make you one, too?

Need more evidence, and as I outlined in my original post above, the lawsuit itself looks bogus. "Katie Johnson" may not even exist.
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I did some research and here are the facts on the story:

The claims against Trump in this new lawsuit are salacious and lurid, and you can read about them here -- really nasty stuff:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

FACTS:

1) Katie Johnson filed the lawsuit pro se, meaning she is representing herself. No attorney is listed in the court documents. The phone number she lists in the filing is disconnected. It was previously listed as a cell phone number for a California dentist, who could not be reached.

Her listed address is a house in Twentynine Palms, California, that has been foreclosed and is vacant, neighbors told Radar Online.

2) Another person named in the lawsuit says she has never heard of her.

3) "Katie Johnson" does not appear in Epstein's 197 page "black book", where all of the names of his underage escorts had appeared.

4) Trump voluntarily participated in a 2010 lawsuit by the girl raped by Prince Andrew at Jeffery Epstein's pedo island. Her lawyer said it was "clear" Trump had no involvement with Epstein's crimes.

5) Trump did know Epstien, as he was a member of his Mar a Lago Club.

6) Trump banned him from the club when Palm Beach Police caught Epstein messing around with young girls.

7) Trump has already publicly discussed Bill Clinton's PROVEN connection to Epstein's pedo island, suggesting Trump isn't afraid of the story or trying to hide from it.

Some sources:

[link to radaronline.com]

[link to radaronline.com]
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Excellent dd. So does he use this against clintons? I find it hard hillary didn't know epstein if bill didpigchef
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FACT:

Trump knew Eipstein and his girlfriend.

FACT:
Epstein is a slimy jew who, with his girlfriend, are proven pimps and heavily implicated in shopping underrage children for pedophiles. And many high ups have been implicated.

FACT:
Of those implicated, we see both Clinton and Trump.

FACT:
Clintons and Trumps are "very good friends" according to younger Trump.

FACT:
Both Clinton and Trump are running for POTUS.
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I did some research and here are the facts on the story:

The claims against Trump in this new lawsuit are salacious and lurid, and you can read about them here -- really nasty stuff:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

FACTS:

1) Katie Johnson filed the lawsuit pro se, meaning she is representing herself. No attorney is listed in the court documents. The phone number she lists in the filing is disconnected. It was previously listed as a cell phone number for a California dentist, who could not be reached.

Her listed address is a house in Twentynine Palms, California, that has been foreclosed and is vacant, neighbors told Radar Online.

2) Another person named in the lawsuit says she has never heard of her.

3) "Katie Johnson" does not appear in Epstein's 197 page "black book", where all of the names of his underage escorts had appeared.

4) Trump voluntarily participated in a 2010 lawsuit by the girl raped by Prince Andrew at Jeffery Epstein's pedo island. Her lawyer said it was "clear" Trump had no involvement with Epstein's crimes.

5) Trump did know Epstien, as he was a member of his Mar a Lago Club.

6) Trump banned him from the club when Palm Beach Police caught Epstein messing around with young girls.

7) Trump has already publicly discussed Bill Clinton's PROVEN connection to Epstein's pedo island, suggesting Trump isn't afraid of the story or trying to hide from it.

Some sources:

[link to radaronline.com]

[link to radaronline.com]
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No lawyer would sign on to a fraud case like this filed same day trump steps into cali mind you
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FACT:

Trump knew Eipstein and his girlfriend.

FACT:
Epstein is a slimy jew who, with his girlfriend, are proven pimps and heavily implicated in shopping underrage children for pedophiles. And many high ups have been implicated.

FACT:
Of those implicated, we see both Clinton and Trump.

FACT:
Clintons and Trumps are "very good friends" according to younger Trump.

FACT:
Both Clinton and Trump are running for POTUS.
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it's a bullshit stunt by shillary
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How do you explain the photo of Trump with Epstein's girlfriend (well known for pimping underage prostitutes)?
[link to i.dailymail.co.uk]
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I have no idea. Could be a social function?

Epstein probably had a social persona, and a private one.

Let's say you have a neighbor. He invites you to dinner parties. He seems nice. Later, you find out he's a pedo. Does that make you one, too?

Need more evidence, and as I outlined in my original post above, the lawsuit itself looks bogus. "Katie Johnson" may not even exist.
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Pretty damning imo.
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do you know how many gorgeous women trump is surrounded by..


lol.... Like he needs hookers.

When you have money, you don't chase pussy

It chases you.


I would know!
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FACT:

Trump knew Eipstein and his girlfriend.

FACT:
Epstein is a slimy jew who, with his girlfriend, are proven pimps and heavily implicated in shopping underrage children for pedophiles. And many high ups have been implicated.

FACT:
Of those implicated, we see both Clinton and Trump.

FACT:
Clintons and Trumps are "very good friends" according to younger Trump.

FACT:
Both Clinton and Trump are running for POTUS.
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it's a bullshit stunt by shillary
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yeah but there's a photo of Trump associating with Epstein and his pedopimp girlfriend. And Clintons and Trumps are "very good friends". And BillyBoy is implicated in using the pedopimp for sex.
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do you know how many gorgeous women trump is surrounded by..


lol.... Like he needs hookers.

When you have money, you don't chase pussy

It chases you.


I would know!
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Pedo sex? That's what this is about. He's surrounding himself with 13 year olds to have sex with? Or does he go to a well known slimy jew who specializes in it?
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sorry nobody will belive the fake story or the fake lawsuit
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do you know how many gorgeous women trump is surrounded by..


lol.... Like he needs hookers.

When you have money, you don't chase pussy

It chases you.


I would know!
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Pedo sex? That's what this is about. He's surrounding himself with 13 year olds to have sex with? Or does he go to a well known slimy jew who specializes in it?
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Pedo? She is 28 years old
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do you know how many gorgeous women trump is surrounded by..


lol.... Like he needs hookers.

When you have money, you don't chase pussy

It chases you.


I would know!
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Pedo sex? That's what this is about. He's surrounding himself with 13 year olds to have sex with? Or does he go to a well known slimy jew who specializes in it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45400589


Pedo? She is 28 years old
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oh I see. shilling are we? She was 13 at the time.
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do you know how many gorgeous women trump is surrounded by..


lol.... Like he needs hookers.

When you have money, you don't chase pussy

It chases you.


I would know!
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Pedo sex? That's what this is about. He's surrounding himself with 13 year olds to have sex with? Or does he go to a well known slimy jew who specializes in it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45400589


Pedo? She is 28 years old
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oh I see. shilling are we? She was 13 at the time.
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LOL, says who, Hillary?
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sorry nobody will belive the fake story or the fake lawsuit
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I'm leaning towards believing it, and I'm sure many others are as well. There's a photo which puts Trump in this guy's company. There's an actual lawsuit which includes a 2nd witness who was known to work for Epstein.
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Pedo sex? That's what this is about. He's surrounding himself with 13 year olds to have sex with? Or does he go to a well known slimy jew who specializes in it?
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Pedo? She is 28 years old
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oh I see. shilling are we? She was 13 at the time.
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LOL, says who, Hillary?
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Look into Epstein and see who says.
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here is the real story

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It's another typical Hillary Clinton hatchet job

that bitch needs a prison cell bad.
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putin-thiss

So sick of HER shit. I really am.

THIS IS SUCH B.S.
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It's another typical Hillary Clinton hatchet job

that bitch needs a prison cell bad.
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putin-thiss

So sick of HER shit. I really am.

THIS IS SUCH B.S.
ceegar
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So Hillary got her husband implicated in pedopimping with Epstein?
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sorry nobody will belive the fake story or the fake lawsuit
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I'm leaning towards believing it, and I'm sure many others are as well. There's a photo which puts Trump in this guy's company. There's an actual lawsuit which includes a 2nd witness who was known to work for Epstein.
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And that person has yet to come forward, and Radar Online says a "source" claims that person does not even know who Katie Johnson is.

Keep up!
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Here's a weird twist: RADAR online is financed by Jeffrey Epstein! Conflict of interest?

Radar Magazine Lines Up Financing
By DAVID CARROCT. 19, 2004

Mortimer B. Zuckerman, the owner of The Daily News, and Jeffrey Epstein, a Wall Street financier, yesterday agreed to finance Radar, a celebrity and pop culture magazine that published two test issues last year.

Two executives involved in the negotiations said the backers, who were part of an unsuccessful bid for New York magazine last year, are committed to spending up to $25 million to back Radar and Maer Roshan, its editor in chief and founder.
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Here's a weird twist: RADAR online is financed by Jeffrey Epstein! Conflict of interest?

Radar Magazine Lines Up Financing
By DAVID CARROCT. 19, 2004

Mortimer B. Zuckerman, the owner of The Daily News, and Jeffrey Epstein, a Wall Street financier, yesterday agreed to finance Radar, a celebrity and pop culture magazine that published two test issues last year.

Two executives involved in the negotiations said the backers, who were part of an unsuccessful bid for New York magazine last year, are committed to spending up to $25 million to back Radar and Maer Roshan, its editor in chief and founder.
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Interesting. Very interesting.
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sorry nobody will belive the fake story or the fake lawsuit
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I'm leaning towards believing it, and I'm sure many others are as well. There's a photo which puts Trump in this guy's company. There's an actual lawsuit which includes a 2nd witness who was known to work for Epstein.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45400589


And that person has yet to come forward, and Radar Online says a "source" claims that person does not even know who Katie Johnson is.

Keep up!
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A "source" LOL. So the site attempting to debunk this says their uncle says this Tiffany Doe doesn't know the plaintiff. Right. Sure thing.

From the original article:

It states: 'Tiffany Doe was physically present at each of the four occasions of sexual abuse by Defendant Trump upon the person of Plaintiff Johnson, as it was her job to witness all of the sexual escapades of Epstein's guests at these underage sex parties and later reveal all of the sordid details directly to Defendant Epstein.'

It added that Epstein had also demanded that she listen in to the encounters explaining that 'knowledge is king' in the financial world and that he wanted to 'accumulate inside business knowledge'.

The suit explains that despite 'terroristic' threats from Epstein to prevent her from publicly revealing the 'sex parties' Tiffany Doe refuses to be silent any longer.

TRY AGAIN LOL
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The fact that Trump was in Epstein's black book along side names such as David Rockefeller, Kissinger, the Koch Bros, Tony Blair, Bill Clinton etc etc proves trump is not at all an "outsider" the establishment "hates"

It proves Trump is part of the billionaire boys club and is at secret parties / meetings with people like Epstein who also knows the Rockefellers and the Koch Bros and the clintons

Proving presidential elections are rigged

Vote for Clinton = CFR
Vote for Trump = CFR

the CFR will win this fake election like they have all elections for the past century

but by all means keep believing Trump is an "outsider" and not controlled by the elite.
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Here's a weird twist: RADAR online is financed by Jeffrey Epstein! Conflict of interest?

Radar Magazine Lines Up Financing
By DAVID CARROCT. 19, 2004

Mortimer B. Zuckerman, the owner of The Daily News, and Jeffrey Epstein, a Wall Street financier, yesterday agreed to finance Radar, a celebrity and pop culture magazine that published two test issues last year.

Two executives involved in the negotiations said the backers, who were part of an unsuccessful bid for New York magazine last year, are committed to spending up to $25 million to back Radar and Maer Roshan, its editor in chief and founder.
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Interesting. Very interesting.
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That is more than interesting

that is bizarre..

Hillary black mail of epstein maybe?