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Trump sued for sex crimes via Epstein -- HERE ARE THE FACTS (UPDATED).

 
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CSM

I think you may be onto something here.

Trump's history with Epstein starts coming out, so put out a fake story, debunk and dismiss it as obvious slander and dirty politics and then any time someone mentions Trump and Epstein's connection they'll assume it's just in reference to this possibly fake story and easily brush it off as being a proven fake story.
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Look at it this way:

If this were Hillary, or Cruz, they'd have their ducks lined up better. A lawyer on board. A real address, a real phone number. At least something to give it more legs, more meat, even if it were false.

They wouldn't stage a smear like this knowing it would get discredited so quickly.

Or maybe they would. But I don't think they would. Because this thing stinks.

In the Daily Mail article they mention photos being sold for "$25,000", another tid bit that discredits the lawsuit.

Just trying to figure out what's going on here.
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come on you idiot..

this is hillary 101
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Why would Hillary want to drum up something which also implicated her own husband in the past?
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Hillary Clinton's hatchet man David Brock recently told wealthy democrats that he was going to burn Trump tower to the ground . He was going to bring out people to call trump a racist ,sexist etc .He is the same CREEP that recorded the 47% audio .David Brock is know for attacks like this .
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You know why the elite have these eyes wide shut escort parties?

Black mail

They lure the wealthy and powerful to these sex orgies or escort "dates" for the sole purpose of having dirt to later use as leverage and black mail the wealthy elite.

At first you think this is just some great perk of being part of the billionaire boys club, until the people who put on those parties want to black mail and use you.


The 2nd season of True Detectives had exactly this story line... mobsters who have sex party / orgies for wealthy powerful men so they can black mail them at a later date.


I bet someone has been sitting on this story waiting for the right time to go after trump.

But it proves that trump is by no means an outsider and that he is beholden to the same PTB that Hillary and all politicians and puppet presidents are.


And trump has a long history of liking young women, FFS he even said if Ivanka wasn't his daughter he'd most likely be "dating" her

I'd wager everything I own, Trump has had a grand ol time at some of Epstein's "gatherings".... cocaine and young "escorts" for all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51544645


Very, very possible. Very possible.

But Trump should get credit for cooperating with lawyer of the girl who Prince Andrew raped. That lawyer says he thinks Trump had no involvement.

Of course, that's not proof he didn't, but it favors his side of things.

Then again, Trump is smart. He may know there is no evidence. He knew cooperating would keep him out of the spotlight.

We're speculating at this point, on all this. Not enough evidence yet.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man



I think Epstein's deposition testimony of pleading the 5th is pretty damning.

It might be epstein not wanting to incriminate himself, but he would not be incriminating himself if he answered NO to that question.

Have you ever socialized with trump around underage girls? "NO"... no incrimination.

So the fact the he refuses to answer that question is pretty damning. A simple NO and the story is over. But he didn't say NO. He dodged answering the question.

The fact the trump not only knows epstein but has eaten at his home, flown on his private jet, and has multiple phone numbers in his black book tells us all that Trump is one of the wealthy insider elite just like all the other good ol boys.
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come on you idiot..

this is hillary 101
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Why would Hillary want to drum up something which also implicated her own husband in the past?
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Hillary Clinton's hatchet man David Brock recently told wealthy democrats that he was going to burn Trump tower to the ground . He was going to bring out people to call trump a racist ,sexist etc .He is the same CREEP that recorded the 47% audio .David Brock is know for attacks like this .
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Hillary Clinton's hatchet man David Brock recently told wealthy democrats that he was going to burn Trump tower to the ground . He was going to bring out people to call trump a racist ,sexist etc .He is the same CREEP that recorded the 47% audio .David Brock is know for attacks like this .
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So you guys are saying that the Clinton people found some girl who never knew Epstein, or perhaps did.. how would they know ;)? and got her to file a lawsuit against someone who may become the most powerful man in the world. Right. Sure they did.
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what evidence could their possibly be?
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Just witnesses. Witnesses that were later killed, intimidated or are being watched.

The lawsuit -- the details of it -- if you take them out face-value are highly plausible, I will say that. I mean the details outlined in the Daily Mail article.

Here are the possibilities in my mind right now:

1) A disinfo smoke-screen, with a little truth thrown in, put out by Trump & Epstein, to get a head of any real story that might later come out.

2) A complete b.s. lawsuit, no merit, "Katie Johnson" may not even be real, cooked up either by a Trump enemy or another campaign.

3) A real story, from a real girl, afraid for her life, trying to get her story out -- but doesn't have any money or help to get it out.
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Hillary Clinton's hatchet man David Brock recently told wealthy democrats that he was going to burn Trump tower to the ground . He was going to bring out people to call trump a racist ,sexist etc .He is the same CREEP that recorded the 47% audio .David Brock is know for attacks like this .
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So you guys are saying that the Clinton people found some girl who never knew Epstein, or perhaps did.. how would they know ;)? and got her to file a lawsuit against someone who may become the most powerful man in the world. Right. Sure they did.
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she probably never met epstein in her life.
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CSM

I think you may be onto something here.

Trump's history with Epstein starts coming out, so put out a fake story, debunk and dismiss it as obvious slander and dirty politics and then any time someone mentions Trump and Epstein's connection they'll assume it's just in reference to this possibly fake story and easily brush it off as being a proven fake story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51544645


Look at it this way:

If this were Hillary, or Cruz, they'd have their ducks lined up better. A lawyer on board. A real address, a real phone number. At least something to give it more legs, more meat, even if it were false.

They wouldn't stage a smear like this knowing it would get discredited so quickly.

Or maybe they would. But I don't think they would. Because this thing stinks.

In the Daily Mail article they mention photos being sold for "$25,000", another tid bit that discredits the lawsuit.

Just trying to figure out what's going on here.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


If it's the girl who is selling photos for 25k, that makes sense.

She was a teenage escort. She most likely needs money and sees a chance to cash in at the same time expose the truth. I don't think that discredits anyone, it just shows how desperate people are for money, to survive... I am guessing Epstein didn't give her a 401k plan as a sex slave

Celebrities sell photos of their babies to People or US magazine, that doesn't discredit them as actually having given birth to a child, just proves they see a chance to exploit and cash in on something they know people will pay money for.
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what evidence could their possibly be?
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Just witnesses. Witnesses that were later killed, intimidated or are being watched.

The lawsuit -- the details of it -- if you take them out face-value are highly plausible, I will say that. I mean the details outlined in the Daily Mail article.

Here are the possibilities in my mind right now:

1) A disinfo smoke-screen, with a little truth thrown in, put out by Trump & Epstein, to get a head of any real story that might later come out.

2) A complete b.s. lawsuit, no merit, "Katie Johnson" may not even be real, cooked up either by a Trump enemy or another campaign.

3) A real story, from a real girl, afraid for her life, trying to get her story out -- but doesn't have any money or help to get it out.
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I'm watching CNN live right now

if this story had any merit

It would be headlining
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what evidence could their possibly be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71715476


Just witnesses. Witnesses that were later killed, intimidated or are being watched.

The lawsuit -- the details of it -- if you take them out face-value are highly plausible, I will say that. I mean the details outlined in the Daily Mail article.

Here are the possibilities in my mind right now:

1) A disinfo smoke-screen, with a little truth thrown in, put out by Trump & Epstein, to get a head of any real story that might later come out.

2) A complete b.s. lawsuit, no merit, "Katie Johnson" may not even be real, cooked up either by a Trump enemy or another campaign.

3) A real story, from a real girl, afraid for her life, trying to get her story out -- but doesn't have any money or help to get it out.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


I'm watching CNN live right now

if this story had any merit

It would be headlining
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You know why the elite have these eyes wide shut escort parties?

Black mail

They lure the wealthy and powerful to these sex orgies or escort "dates" for the sole purpose of having dirt to later use as leverage and black mail the wealthy elite.

At first you think this is just some great perk of being part of the billionaire boys club, until the people who put on those parties want to black mail and use you.


The 2nd season of True Detectives had exactly this story line... mobsters who have sex party / orgies for wealthy powerful men so they can black mail them at a later date.


I bet someone has been sitting on this story waiting for the right time to go after trump.

But it proves that trump is by no means an outsider and that he is beholden to the same PTB that Hillary and all politicians and puppet presidents are.


And trump has a long history of liking young women, FFS he even said if Ivanka wasn't his daughter he'd most likely be "dating" her

I'd wager everything I own, Trump has had a grand ol time at some of Epstein's "gatherings".... cocaine and young "escorts" for all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51544645


Very, very possible. Very possible.

But Trump should get credit for cooperating with lawyer of the girl who Prince Andrew raped. That lawyer says he thinks Trump had no involvement.

Of course, that's not proof he didn't, but it favors his side of things.

Then again, Trump is smart. He may know there is no evidence. He knew cooperating would keep him out of the spotlight.

We're speculating at this point, on all this. Not enough evidence yet.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man



I think Epstein's deposition testimony of pleading the 5th is pretty damning.

It might be epstein not wanting to incriminate himself, but he would not be incriminating himself if he answered NO to that question.

Have you ever socialized with trump around underage girls? "NO"... no incrimination.

So the fact the he refuses to answer that question is pretty damning. A simple NO and the story is over. But he didn't say NO. He dodged answering the question.

The fact the trump not only knows epstein but has eaten at his home, flown on his private jet, and has multiple phone numbers in his black book tells us all that Trump is one of the wealthy insider elite just like all the other good ol boys.
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He can't perjure himself, though. If he says "NO" and he's lying, it's perjury.

If he says "YES" and Trump denies it, again, he's putting himself in a bind if Trump is subpoenaed (which he almost was, until he cooperated in the lawsuit).

So on that point I can see using the 5th.

My point is that is very open to interpretation why he used it and we'd maybe need a legal person to explain it better.
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what evidence could their possibly be?
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Just witnesses. Witnesses that were later killed, intimidated or are being watched.

The lawsuit -- the details of it -- if you take them out face-value are highly plausible, I will say that. I mean the details outlined in the Daily Mail article.

Here are the possibilities in my mind right now:

1) A disinfo smoke-screen, with a little truth thrown in, put out by Trump & Epstein, to get a head of any real story that might later come out.

2) A complete b.s. lawsuit, no merit, "Katie Johnson" may not even be real, cooked up either by a Trump enemy or another campaign.

3) A real story, from a real girl, afraid for her life, trying to get her story out -- but doesn't have any money or help to get it out.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


Boy you're really stretching with #1. A little biased are we and willing to doubly twist nonsense into possibilities?

#2 & #3 could be correct. Face value usually wins. If we're going to believe the first stuff that emerged about Epstein (including Bill Clinton's involvement), then we should probably assume Trump's involvement given his proven association. What proof? I would imagine there are photographs, but if they're all in it together (and the girl is an outsider) than #3 could be real. And it eliminates Clinton or Epstein trying to take down Trump.
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Hillary Clinton's hatchet man David Brock recently told wealthy democrats that he was going to burn Trump tower to the ground . He was going to bring out people to call trump a racist ,sexist etc .He is the same CREEP that recorded the 47% audio .David Brock is know for attacks like this .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70601302


So you guys are saying that the Clinton people found some girl who never knew Epstein, or perhaps did.. how would they know ;)? and got her to file a lawsuit against someone who may become the most powerful man in the world. Right. Sure they did.
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she probably never met epstein in her life.
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She would have to know details to convince any bar certified laywer to file a lawsuit.
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what evidence could their possibly be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71715476


Just witnesses. Witnesses that were later killed, intimidated or are being watched.

The lawsuit -- the details of it -- if you take them out face-value are highly plausible, I will say that. I mean the details outlined in the Daily Mail article.

Here are the possibilities in my mind right now:

1) A disinfo smoke-screen, with a little truth thrown in, put out by Trump & Epstein, to get a head of any real story that might later come out.

2) A complete b.s. lawsuit, no merit, "Katie Johnson" may not even be real, cooked up either by a Trump enemy or another campaign.

3) A real story, from a real girl, afraid for her life, trying to get her story out -- but doesn't have any money or help to get it out.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


The real issue here though is, regardless if trump is a pedophile, he knows Epstein. Said he thinks Epstein is "terrific".

Once again, this proves Trump is no outsider. He's in league with the same evil wealthy elite pricks ruining the world and keeping all of us down. Same with Clinton.

The past presidential elections have been obviously rigged, this one takes the cake though.
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CSM

I think you may be onto something here.

Trump's history with Epstein starts coming out, so put out a fake story, debunk and dismiss it as obvious slander and dirty politics and then any time someone mentions Trump and Epstein's connection they'll assume it's just in reference to this possibly fake story and easily brush it off as being a proven fake story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51544645


Look at it this way:

If this were Hillary, or Cruz, they'd have their ducks lined up better. A lawyer on board. A real address, a real phone number. At least something to give it more legs, more meat, even if it were false.

They wouldn't stage a smear like this knowing it would get discredited so quickly.

Or maybe they would. But I don't think they would. Because this thing stinks.

In the Daily Mail article they mention photos being sold for "$25,000", another tid bit that discredits the lawsuit.

Just trying to figure out what's going on here.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


If it's the girl who is selling photos for 25k, that makes sense.

She was a teenage escort. She most likely needs money and sees a chance to cash in at the same time expose the truth. I don't think that discredits anyone, it just shows how desperate people are for money, to survive... I am guessing Epstein didn't give her a 401k plan as a sex slave

Celebrities sell photos of their babies to People or US magazine, that doesn't discredit them as actually having given birth to a child, just proves they see a chance to exploit and cash in on something they know people will pay money for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51544645


I agree the $25k has no bearing on the truth of it, it's just bad PR.

Now we have to determine why the bad PR is there. Because the girl is dumb, naive or desperate... or because it's a fake story... or because it's a disinfo story based on possible real events.
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what evidence could their possibly be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71715476


Just witnesses. Witnesses that were later killed, intimidated or are being watched.

The lawsuit -- the details of it -- if you take them out face-value are highly plausible, I will say that. I mean the details outlined in the Daily Mail article.

Here are the possibilities in my mind right now:

1) A disinfo smoke-screen, with a little truth thrown in, put out by Trump & Epstein, to get a head of any real story that might later come out.

2) A complete b.s. lawsuit, no merit, "Katie Johnson" may not even be real, cooked up either by a Trump enemy or another campaign.

3) A real story, from a real girl, afraid for her life, trying to get her story out -- but doesn't have any money or help to get it out.
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I'm watching CNN live right now

if this story had any merit

It would be headlining
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No. What that implies is that the tribe (think Epstein and his rich friends like Clinton & Trump) doesn't want it out there for a reason.
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what evidence could their possibly be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71715476


Just witnesses. Witnesses that were later killed, intimidated or are being watched.

The lawsuit -- the details of it -- if you take them out face-value are highly plausible, I will say that. I mean the details outlined in the Daily Mail article.

Here are the possibilities in my mind right now:

1) A disinfo smoke-screen, with a little truth thrown in, put out by Trump & Epstein, to get a head of any real story that might later come out.

2) A complete b.s. lawsuit, no merit, "Katie Johnson" may not even be real, cooked up either by a Trump enemy or another campaign.

3) A real story, from a real girl, afraid for her life, trying to get her story out -- but doesn't have any money or help to get it out.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


The real issue here though is, regardless if trump is a pedophile, he knows Epstein. Said he thinks Epstein is "terrific".

Once again, this proves Trump is no outsider. He's in league with the same evil wealthy elite pricks ruining the world and keeping all of us down. Same with Clinton.

The past presidential elections have been obviously rigged, this one takes the cake though.
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Um Trump kicked him out of maro lago for being a perv
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You know why the elite have these eyes wide shut escort parties?

Black mail

They lure the wealthy and powerful to these sex orgies or escort "dates" for the sole purpose of having dirt to later use as leverage and black mail the wealthy elite.

At first you think this is just some great perk of being part of the billionaire boys club, until the people who put on those parties want to black mail and use you.


The 2nd season of True Detectives had exactly this story line... mobsters who have sex party / orgies for wealthy powerful men so they can black mail them at a later date.


I bet someone has been sitting on this story waiting for the right time to go after trump.

But it proves that trump is by no means an outsider and that he is beholden to the same PTB that Hillary and all politicians and puppet presidents are.


And trump has a long history of liking young women, FFS he even said if Ivanka wasn't his daughter he'd most likely be "dating" her

I'd wager everything I own, Trump has had a grand ol time at some of Epstein's "gatherings".... cocaine and young "escorts" for all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51544645


Very, very possible. Very possible.

But Trump should get credit for cooperating with lawyer of the girl who Prince Andrew raped. That lawyer says he thinks Trump had no involvement.

Of course, that's not proof he didn't, but it favors his side of things.

Then again, Trump is smart. He may know there is no evidence. He knew cooperating would keep him out of the spotlight.

We're speculating at this point, on all this. Not enough evidence yet.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man



I think Epstein's deposition testimony of pleading the 5th is pretty damning.

It might be epstein not wanting to incriminate himself, but he would not be incriminating himself if he answered NO to that question.

Have you ever socialized with trump around underage girls? "NO"... no incrimination.

So the fact the he refuses to answer that question is pretty damning. A simple NO and the story is over. But he didn't say NO. He dodged answering the question.

The fact the trump not only knows epstein but has eaten at his home, flown on his private jet, and has multiple phone numbers in his black book tells us all that Trump is one of the wealthy insider elite just like all the other good ol boys.
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He can't perjure himself, though. If he says "NO" and he's lying, it's perjury.

If he says "YES" and Trump denies it, again, he's putting himself in a bind if Trump is subpoenaed (which he almost was, until he cooperated in the lawsuit).

So on that point I can see using the 5th.

My point is that is very open to interpretation why he used it and we'd maybe need a legal person to explain it better.
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But if it was true, that he had not socialized with Trump and underage girls, him saying NO is not perjury, it's the truth.

So if he said NO and it's the truth, then that's that. We just know trump never socialized with Epstein and underage girls, that doesn't mean he didn't socialize with him and girls of legal age.

It's pretty simple question to answer, if he didn't socialize with trump and underage girls, he says NO.... but instead he pleads 3 amendments and dodges the question
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what evidence could their possibly be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71715476


Just witnesses. Witnesses that were later killed, intimidated or are being watched.

The lawsuit -- the details of it -- if you take them out face-value are highly plausible, I will say that. I mean the details outlined in the Daily Mail article.

Here are the possibilities in my mind right now:

1) A disinfo smoke-screen, with a little truth thrown in, put out by Trump & Epstein, to get a head of any real story that might later come out.

2) A complete b.s. lawsuit, no merit, "Katie Johnson" may not even be real, cooked up either by a Trump enemy or another campaign.

3) A real story, from a real girl, afraid for her life, trying to get her story out -- but doesn't have any money or help to get it out.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


The real issue here though is, regardless if trump is a pedophile, he knows Epstein. Said he thinks Epstein is "terrific".

Once again, this proves Trump is no outsider. He's in league with the same evil wealthy elite pricks ruining the world and keeping all of us down. Same with Clinton.

The past presidential elections have been obviously rigged, this one takes the cake though.

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It sure does. I didn't think they had it in them to play this much bullshit. But apparently they know what's at stake.
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I'm going by roger stone.

He warned us weeks ago they will try

to pull something big.

He was on the fat mans show.


He says the story is Total bullshit.

He is a fired employee by trump!

Has no reason to lie.
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what evidence could their possibly be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71715476


Just witnesses. Witnesses that were later killed, intimidated or are being watched.

The lawsuit -- the details of it -- if you take them out face-value are highly plausible, I will say that. I mean the details outlined in the Daily Mail article.

Here are the possibilities in my mind right now:

1) A disinfo smoke-screen, with a little truth thrown in, put out by Trump & Epstein, to get a head of any real story that might later come out.

2) A complete b.s. lawsuit, no merit, "Katie Johnson" may not even be real, cooked up either by a Trump enemy or another campaign.

3) A real story, from a real girl, afraid for her life, trying to get her story out -- but doesn't have any money or help to get it out.
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The real issue here though is, regardless if trump is a pedophile, he knows Epstein. Said he thinks Epstein is "terrific".

Once again, this proves Trump is no outsider. He's in league with the same evil wealthy elite pricks ruining the world and keeping all of us down. Same with Clinton.

The past presidential elections have been obviously rigged, this one takes the cake though.
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Um Trump kicked him out of maro lago for being a perv
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Were you there or did your uncle at radar tell you?
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what evidence could their possibly be?
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Just witnesses. Witnesses that were later killed, intimidated or are being watched.

The lawsuit -- the details of it -- if you take them out face-value are highly plausible, I will say that. I mean the details outlined in the Daily Mail article.

Here are the possibilities in my mind right now:

1) A disinfo smoke-screen, with a little truth thrown in, put out by Trump & Epstein, to get a head of any real story that might later come out.

2) A complete b.s. lawsuit, no merit, "Katie Johnson" may not even be real, cooked up either by a Trump enemy or another campaign.

3) A real story, from a real girl, afraid for her life, trying to get her story out -- but doesn't have any money or help to get it out.
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The real issue here though is, regardless if trump is a pedophile, he knows Epstein. Said he thinks Epstein is "terrific".

Once again, this proves Trump is no outsider. He's in league with the same evil wealthy elite pricks ruining the world and keeping all of us down. Same with Clinton.

The past presidential elections have been obviously rigged, this one takes the cake though.
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But we have to take a few things into consideration before we reach the conclusion Trump was part of Epstein's sex orgies:

1) Trump's a businessman, he calls everyone "great", a "friend" and "terrific". Believe me, as someone who runs a business, I know EXACTLY where Trump is coming from. How you handle yourself as the face of a big company means you are nice to everyone with money, power, potential customers, potential assholes in government who might stall your projects (now that he's running a campaign, and he's in his twilight years, he's more willing to let it all hang out).

2) Epstein had a social life and sure as hell didn't go around openly telling everyone he was using underage girls as sex slaves. He had a private life and a public one. It's possible Trump only knew the public one.

I will say this, though, I do think these associations are a problem and need to be looked at. Closely.

Epstein might be the Skeleton Key that unlocks everything, about everyone.
"Only a man suffering from a severe case of dignity atrophy would even entertain the thought of financing, housing, and raising some other man's orgasm."
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Knowing what I know thus far about this election, the tribe wants Trump and they're trying to fool the g0ym cattle that he's anti-establishment. I've already proven he is up to his ears with the tribe and owes them favors. His grandchildren will all be tribe. It's all a big sham, a theater for the fools so they don't go off after all the past 16 years of bullshit in this country.

ITS A BIG SHAM.


And this girl is likely for real. And the tribe, and their rich Clinton/Trump ruling puppets are going to cover it up.
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Um Trump kicked him out of maro lago for being a perv
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That's after Palm Beach Police caught Epstein up to no good.

This little bit of info favors Trump, but does not completely absolve him.

It could simply be such he said to Epstein, "Sorry buddy I gotta do this or it will look bad, see ya next week in New York."

Another thing that isn't fully conclusive.
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Yup even more proof Trump is a pawn of the elite -

Epstein is CFR and Trilateral

"He is an enthusiastic member of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations."

[link to nymag.com]

and this is what trump thinks of Epstein:

"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it Jeffrey enjoys his social life."


So Trump has known CFR / TC member epstein for 15 years and thinks he's "terrific"

Trump respects CFR head Richard Haass more then most people he knows and named 3 CFR members (Haass being one of them) he'd have in his cabinet

Trump is a CFR pawn just like Clinton
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Yup even more proof Trump is a pawn of the elite -

Epstein is CFR and Trilateral

"He is an enthusiastic member of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations."

[link to nymag.com]

and this is what trump thinks of Epstein:

"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it Jeffrey enjoys his social life."


So Trump has known CFR / TC member epstein for 15 years and thinks he's "terrific"

Trump respects CFR head Richard Haass more then most people he knows and named 3 CFR members (Haass being one of them) he'd have in his cabinet

Trump is a CFR pawn just like Clinton
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None of this rings any bell toward Trump but sure does for other who would gain from spreading it.. Shit that is.
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Knowing what I know thus far about this election, the tribe wants Trump and they're trying to fool the g0ym cattle that he's anti-establishment. I've already proven he is up to his ears with the tribe and owes them favors. His grandchildren will all be tribe. It's all a big sham, a theater for the fools so they don't go off after all the past 16 years of bullshit in this country.

ITS A BIG SHAM.


And this girl is likely for real. And the tribe, and their rich Clinton/Trump ruling puppets are going to cover it up.
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why would fox news work so hard at trying to destroy him?
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what evidence could their possibly be?
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Just witnesses. Witnesses that were later killed, intimidated or are being watched.

The lawsuit -- the details of it -- if you take them out face-value are highly plausible, I will say that. I mean the details outlined in the Daily Mail article.

Here are the possibilities in my mind right now:

1) A disinfo smoke-screen, with a little truth thrown in, put out by Trump & Epstein, to get a head of any real story that might later come out.

2) A complete b.s. lawsuit, no merit, "Katie Johnson" may not even be real, cooked up either by a Trump enemy or another campaign.

3) A real story, from a real girl, afraid for her life, trying to get her story out -- but doesn't have any money or help to get it out.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


The real issue here though is, regardless if trump is a pedophile, he knows Epstein. Said he thinks Epstein is "terrific".

Once again, this proves Trump is no outsider. He's in league with the same evil wealthy elite pricks ruining the world and keeping all of us down. Same with Clinton.

The past presidential elections have been obviously rigged, this one takes the cake though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51544645


But we have to take a few things into consideration before we reach the conclusion Trump was part of Epstein's sex orgies:

1) Trump's a businessman, he calls everyone "great", a "friend" and "terrific". Believe me, as someone who runs a business, I know EXACTLY where Trump is coming from. How you handle yourself as the face of a big company means you are nice to everyone with money, power, potential customers, potential assholes in government who might stall your projects (now that he's running a campaign, and he's in his twilight years, he's more willing to let it all hang out).

2) Epstein had a social life and sure as hell didn't go around openly telling everyone he was using underage girls as sex slaves. He had a private life and a public one. It's possible Trump only knew the public one.

I will say this, though, I do think these associations are a problem and need to be looked at. Closely.

Epstein might be the Skeleton Key that unlocks everything, about everyone.
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Oh I see. Trump needed to be in touch with Epstein and his pedopimp girlfriend because they know about creating skyscrapers and making ties. Everybody just knows everybody for absolutely no reason.

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