Trump sued for sex crimes via Epstein -- HERE ARE THE FACTS (UPDATED).

She's more his trophy than a daughter.

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In the info you links said he knew him through the Mara Largo (sp.) club.

Just because someone poses in a picture with you doesn't make you a cohort.

That was from a photoshoot though,mcas the like a candid picture "caught" him... It was staged and posed by a photographer.

for anyone who didn't read the U.K. account, Trump beat up some 12 year old kids after he wasn't satisfied with the blow jobs they gave him. If this is a hit job, they're hitting below the waist, more ways than one.

If he weren't selected by the CFR he wouldn't be a candidate. The whole election scam is part of the "breadcrumbs and games" like in ancient Roman empire. Kind of absurd theater to keep the cattle busy so that they don't watch for the really important things and ask the right questions.

It's the same game like in many other countries.

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But keep on dreaming about your influence with your "vote", great conspiracy theorist.

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What does "dd" mean?

What do Freemasons build? Walls!

'Signs and symbols rules the world, not rules and laws' - Confucius

Supper's almost ready.

Epstien was s member of Trump's Mar a Lago Club.

"Brad [Edwards] called me to let me know that you had reached out to him," Garten said. "I looked back at my records and saw that Mr. Trump was subpoenaed."

In 2000, both Trump and Epstein reportedly attended a small party hosted by media magnate Conrad Black, who in 2007 was convicted and served time in prison for fraud and obstruction of justice (the fraud charges were overturned on appeal). Black is currently an enthusiastic supporter of Trump's presidential bid.

Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother, testified in 2009 that Trump flew on Jeffrey's private jet at least once. Meanwhile, message pads [see below] from Epstein's Palm Beach mansion that were seized by investigators and obtained by VICE News indicate that Trump called Epstein twice in November of 2004.

Yep. And true or not, Trump does seem to be close to the Jews and that can't be good.

“The only [candidate] that’s going to give real support to Israel is me,” said the 69-year-old Trump. “The rest of them are all talk, no action. They’re politicians. I’ve been loyal to Israel from the day I was born. My father, Fred Trump, was loyal to Israel before me. The only one that’s going to give Israel the kind of support it needs is Donald Trump.”

[link to www.jns.org]

What's not good is he considers really shitty people 'great.' How can he be friends with this guy 'socially' and not know that he was up to no good...after 15 years?! Why would he give a pedo perv fourteen of his phone numbers?

Just searched for the New Yorker article, sorry, he called Epstein a 'terrific' guy, not a great one.

It's a fine line between a buffoonish, harmless freespirit... and a massive creep. I like to think Trump falls in the first category.

I looked for the pic of the shoes. I'm very interested in looking at them. Could somebody be a little more specific in helping me see it.

People have known pedos for 15 years that they naively THOUGHT were great people, a good example is Jerry Sandusky. Evvverybody loved him.

The phone numbers? Who knows. Could have been provided over many years, by different people. Epstein's notebook was 197 pages long, he kept copious records.

If he committed a sex crime, he would be in jail.

Why is he being sued?

True, but Trump also said "he's into the younger ones." If that wasn't part of the same interview and quote, it may not be quite so gross.

If you're ugly and stupid but very rich , then you have ' personality ', if you say for your infant baby it remains to be seen what kind of boobs she will have, if you're rich then it is 'freespirited'. Yep, this is the world we live.

You are known by the company you keep. Birds of a feather flock together. Do a search: Donald Trump Freemason. Good luck. :) My gut feeling won again. And now this thead!
TRUST NO MAN.

Sigh...Gezz.

But, you kinda have to say it. Not supporting Israel gets you either killed, tossed out of office or turned into a pariah. There are SO many examples -- think Rep. James Traficant, Cinthia McKinney, Mel Gibson, etc.

I know.

THIS IS NOT A PRO or ANTI-TRUMP THREAD. This is "finding the truth" thread.

I did some research and here are the facts on the story:

The claims against Trump in this new lawsuit are salacious and lurid, and you can read about them here -- really nasty stuff:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

FACTS (make your own conclusions):

1) Katie Johnson filed the lawsuit pro se, meaning she is representing herself. No attorney is listed in the court documents.

The phone number she lists in the filing is disconnected. It was previously listed as a cell phone number for a California dentist, who could not be reached.

Her listed address is a house in Twentynine Palms, California, that has been foreclosed and is vacant, neighbors told Radar Online.

2) Radar Online reports a source told them that another person named in the lawsuit "has never heard" of Katie Johnson, despite the fact this other person is a key witness.

3) "Katie Johnson" does not appear in Epstein's 197 page "black book", where all of the names of his other underage escorts had appeared.

4) Trump voluntarily participated in a 2010 lawsuit filed by the girl raped by Prince Andrew at Jeffery Epstein's pedo island. Her lawyer said it was "clear" Trump had no involvement with Epstein's crimes and was very helpful in providing information on Epstein.

5) Trump did know Epstein personally for many years, as he was a member of his Mar a Lago Club.

6) Trump banned Epstein from the club when Palm Beach Police caught Epstein messing around with young girls.

7) Trump has already publicly discussed Bill Clinton's PROVEN connection to Epstein's pedo island, suggesting Trump isn't afraid of the story or trying to hide from it.

8) In a sworn deposition, Epstein's house manager said Trump had been to Epstein's house before, but would eat dinner with him in the kitchen and not with "everyone else" (an odd statement, but should be added here).

9) Epstein, in a sworn deposition, was asked about Trump as follows:

Q: Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?

A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir."

(Note that this could simply mean Epstein did not want to implicate himself.)

10) Trump's phone number, his brother's number, his daughter's number and his first wife's number appear in Epstein's 197 page "black book" full of contact information, along with countless other people.

11) Trump once commented that it appeared Epstein liked "young girls", and seemed to joke about it.

12) VERY IMPORTANT info about the Pro-Trump site RadarOnline and its history, creation, former owners and current owners::

In 2004, Mortimer B. Zuckerman, the owner of The Daily News, and Jeffrey Epstein, a Wall Street financier, yesterday agreed to finance Radar, a celebrity and pop culture magazine that published two test issues last year.

Two executives involved in the negotiations said the backers, who were part of an unsuccessful bid for New York magazine last year, are committed to spending up to $25 million to back Radar and Maer Roshan, its editor in chief and founder.

HOWEVER... Maer Roshan is no longer in charge of Radar or Radar Online, not since 2011, I believe.

"Despite its seeming success, the print magazine was suddenly shuttered in 2008, after its primary backer, billionaire Ron Burkle, who owned a substantial interest in Star and National Enquirer publisher American Media, withdrew.

RadarOnline.com's founding staff was fired and replaced by reporters from the Enquirer and Star. RadarOnline.com was relaunched in March 2009 with a rebranding, focusing on celebrity items about gossip, fashion and pop culture. All of the articles previously published by RadarOnline.com were erased from the site."

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Radar Online is now owned by American Media, CEO is David Pecker, close Trump friend. Same guy who put out Cruz sex scandal in National Enquirer.

Looks like Epstein's ownership of Radar from 2004 faded away a long time ago. The old players who started it are gone, no longer involved.

So that connection might not be what we thought it was.

Radar Online is extremely PRO-TRUMP.

Some sources:

[link to radaronline.com]

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Please read below-IT WAS NOT TRUMP RATHER THE BUSH /CLINTON CRIME FAMILIES.
Trump may have socialized or did business in those circles but it was Bill Clinton and then Jeb Bush who got them all off (see below)
[link to talk.baltimoresun.com]

This was Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew's mess!
Jeb Bush got EVERYONE OFF, girls never got justice

Katie Johnson sounds like a phantom. Not a real person. Could be a fake filing as there is no lawyer involved.

I see more motive in trying to drag Trump through the mud with a fake plaintiff than with a real victim coming forth and representing herself in this suit.

Occam Razor, people. Which is the real forces at work? An anonymous attorney helping a real Katie Johnson file a suit or a bunch of anonymous attorneys as paid conspirators filing on behalf of a non existent Katie Johnson for this suit?

If this suit cannot produce a real person to appear this thing is a fraud, and still its questionable if it did.

The Jew connections are worrisome. They are EXTENSIVE.

Trump's not a Jew, but someone said he "wishes" he was (I'll have to find a quote). The closest relation he has I think is his paternal great-grandmother had a Jewish last name.

He's like a shabbas goy if that's true. Sad.

Maybe he's just fucking clueless.

There needs to be a real person who was a real victim.

Pinned.

Now ^^^^^^^ I don't believe a freaking word of it. Waaaaaaayyyyyyy to rehearsed. Berated them? Lol how predictable. Ffs

She waived her right to anonymity as an alleged victim, lodged her claim in the Central District Court of California on Tuesday.


She said in the legal papers: “Katie Johnson was warned on more than one occasion by both defendants, Donald J Trump and Jeffrey E Epstein, that were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse she had suffered as a sex slave for defendant Trump and defendant Epstein, that plaintiff Johnson and her family would be in mortal dange
[link to www.dailyrecord.co.uk]