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# U were never actually taught math...

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05/02/2016 08:05 AM
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I am a former nuclear machinist mate in the united states navy.

As part of our training, before learning nuclear physics, we had to take some basic math classes. Algebra and the like. To make sure we were up to snuff.

I found these to be very hard. 'Math' never made any sense to me.

But once we got to nuclear physics, chemistry, electrical and mechanical engineering however, I excelled. I could visualize what was physically happening and all of the sudden all of the formulas and 'math' made SENSE. I had visual SENSATIONS to go along with the numerals and operators.

I pondered this for many years. Why was I so good at USING math, but not just doing 'mathematics?'

I figured it out years later.

You see, there is no such thing as pure 'mathematics'.

We are being lied to and taught wrong in school.

Here is the truth...

The original guys how invented mathematics were actually using MACHINES they built to figure things out. They knew the human mind is CRAP at doing complex stuff, so they built machines.

One of them was a basic 'number line'.

Another one, is an abacus.

They then wrote down their step by step manipulations of these machines to figure these things out in a language they invented, called 'mathematics'.

So when you are adding and subtracting and multiplying and dividing... you are actually supposed to be visualizing these machines. The first one, being a 'numberline'.

You are doing 'OPERATIONS' on these machines.

Each kind of math you learn, is based on a different machine.

Number line. Contractor (trigonometry). Then there is balancing scales (algebra).

Now, if you had been taught these machines as you went along, you would have been able to visualize what the Hell you were writing down and why you were writing it down. Math would have made 'sense'.

But they don't want us to understand math. Or logic. Or reason. So they teach us in a screwed up fashion.

Look at these kids in japan. Using the actual MACHINE.

Thing is, over time you can learn to create a mental model of these 'machines' in your mind, and then guess what? You can do amazing mental calculations.

But it doesn't end there. Look up 'memory palaces'. This is the simple technique people use to remember almost ANYTHING. And it works for EVERYBODY.

There are other 'mental machines' and 'mental models' that you can learn as well. That make everything make sense. That make everything Easy.

You are not taught these things, because they want to keep your mind confused. And weak.

Good luck everyone. We need it.
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05/02/2016 08:09 AM
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Aye!
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05/02/2016 08:11 AM
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I would just like to add something.

Did you ever wonder why our spelling is crap? I mean, how complicated would it be to simply have one letter for every sound? Then we could spell anything phonetically.

And our measuring system. We are one of the last countries left that doesn't use the metric system. Ever wonder why?

How about our calendar? Did you know that those names actually once MEANT something? Octagon = eight sided shape. October was once the eight month. Get it? october, november, december... octagon, nonagon, decagon... but then they screwed it all up.

There are also mental models that used to be taught to understand chemistry and astronomy. Look up the astrolabe for example. It was one of these ancient 'computers' that everyone knew how to use.

rhetoric, reason, logic, astronomy... not only were you not taught it, but you were taught in a way that screwed up your mind. Sorry. It happened to me too.
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05/02/2016 08:12 AM
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Cool, it's hard for an old dog like me to learn new tricks tho
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05/02/2016 08:21 AM
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whats so hard about real analysis, fractal geometry, graph theory, combinatorics, abstract algebra and complex analysis
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05/02/2016 08:28 AM
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05/02/2016 08:45 AM
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i always felt math is man made
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05/02/2016 08:58 AM
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breks my heart i could get top grades in any subject but was never good at math even though i loved it so much!
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05/02/2016 08:58 AM
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Thank you for posting this, very helpful and empirically true
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05/02/2016 08:59 AM
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wait, Sherlock Holmes technique? does it matter i' related to Basil Rathbone
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05/02/2016 09:07 AM
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I am a former nuclear machinist mate in the united states navy.

As part of our training, before learning nuclear physics, we had to take some basic math classes. Algebra and the like. To make sure we were up to snuff.

I found these to be very hard. 'Math' never made any sense to me.

But once we got to nuclear physics, chemistry, electrical and mechanical engineering however, I excelled. I could visualize what was physically happening and all of the sudden all of the formulas and 'math' made SENSE. I had visual SENSATIONS to go along with the numerals and operators.

I pondered this for many years. Why was I so good at USING math, but not just doing 'mathematics?'

I figured it out years later.

You see, there is no such thing as pure 'mathematics'.

We are being lied to and taught wrong in school.

Here is the truth...

The original guys how invented mathematics were actually using MACHINES they built to figure things out. They knew the human mind is CRAP at doing complex stuff, so they built machines.

One of them was a basic 'number line'.

Another one, is an abacus.

They then wrote down their step by step manipulations of these machines to figure these things out in a language they invented, called 'mathematics'.

So when you are adding and subtracting and multiplying and dividing... you are actually supposed to be visualizing these machines. The first one, being a 'numberline'.

You are doing 'OPERATIONS' on these machines.

Each kind of math you learn, is based on a different machine.

Number line. Contractor (trigonometry). Then there is balancing scales (algebra).

Now, if you had been taught these machines as you went along, you would have been able to visualize what the Hell you were writing down and why you were writing it down. Math would have made 'sense'.

But they don't want us to understand math. Or logic. Or reason. So they teach us in a screwed up fashion.

Look at these kids in japan. Using the actual MACHINE.

Thing is, over time you can learn to create a mental model of these 'machines' in your mind, and then guess what? You can do amazing mental calculations.

But it doesn't end there. Look up 'memory palaces'. This is the simple technique people use to remember almost ANYTHING. And it works for EVERYBODY.

There are other 'mental machines' and 'mental models' that you can learn as well. That make everything make sense. That make everything Easy.

You are not taught these things, because they want to keep your mind confused. And weak.

Good luck everyone. We need it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5764474

Agree 100%

I have also pondered on this idea many times. Thank you OP.
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Cool !!!

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05/02/2016 09:13 AM
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felt my mind expanding just watching the vid lol gonna try this out
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05/02/2016 09:22 AM
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05/02/2016 09:47 AM
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Most people need little more than basic arithmetic, addition, subtraction. Times tables are of little use on a day to day basis.

Most people have no clue how to calculate simple percentages or in most cases what they indicate.

Complex calculations are best left to those who understand what the formula is designed to achieve.

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05/02/2016 10:00 AM

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I liked algebra and trigonometry because you could ascertain a finite answer for x, y, or z...

When I got to calculus, differential equations, and then random variables and stochastic equations; nothing was finite anymore. It was all an approximation. Then trying to derive your results was like trying to find the right path to take.

I had an argument with an instructor one time. I had taken the wrong path and ended up with an answer that was off by a few micro amps. The instructor marked it totally wrong. I then said, "wouldn't this not work in the circuit, since everything is an approximation anyways". These instructor's don't teach reality in school. Its all fantasy and how much money the college can get from you...
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05/02/2016 10:04 AM
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awarenes with 1+1 and blh 9/blhblh\= staartdeling and breuken start to suck

Im happy with it, very happy but translator imagery on a for ever joyride... Nah sometimes
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I liked algebra and trigonometry because you could ascertain a finite answer for x, y, or z...

When I got to calculus, differential equations, and then random variables and stochastic equations; nothing was finite anymore. It was all an approximation. Then trying to derive your results was like trying to find the right path to take.

I had an argument with an instructor one time. I had taken the wrong path and ended up with an answer that was off by a few micro amps. The instructor marked it totally wrong. I then said, "wouldn't this not work in the circuit, since everything is an approximation anyways". These instructor's don't teach reality in school. Its all fantasy and how much money the college can get from you...
Quoting: DuckNCover

Post of the year.

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Formula ketchup also is stupid all ways
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I am a former nuclear machinist mate in the united states navy.

As part of our training, before learning nuclear physics, we had to take some basic math classes. Algebra and the like. To make sure we were up to snuff.

I found these to be very hard. 'Math' never made any sense to me.

But once we got to nuclear physics, chemistry, electrical and mechanical engineering however, I excelled. I could visualize what was physically happening and all of the sudden all of the formulas and 'math' made SENSE. I had visual SENSATIONS to go along with the numerals and operators.

I pondered this for many years. Why was I so good at USING math, but not just doing 'mathematics?'

I figured it out years later.

You see, there is no such thing as pure 'mathematics'.

We are being lied to and taught wrong in school.

Here is the truth...

The original guys how invented mathematics were actually using MACHINES they built to figure things out. They knew the human mind is CRAP at doing complex stuff, so they built machines.

One of them was a basic 'number line'.

Another one, is an abacus.

They then wrote down their step by step manipulations of these machines to figure these things out in a language they invented, called 'mathematics'.

So when you are adding and subtracting and multiplying and dividing... you are actually supposed to be visualizing these machines. The first one, being a 'numberline'.

You are doing 'OPERATIONS' on these machines.

Each kind of math you learn, is based on a different machine.

Number line. Contractor (trigonometry). Then there is balancing scales (algebra).

Now, if you had been taught these machines as you went along, you would have been able to visualize what the Hell you were writing down and why you were writing it down. Math would have made 'sense'.

But they don't want us to understand math. Or logic. Or reason. So they teach us in a screwed up fashion.

Look at these kids in japan. Using the actual MACHINE.

Thing is, over time you can learn to create a mental model of these 'machines' in your mind, and then guess what? You can do amazing mental calculations.

But it doesn't end there. Look up 'memory palaces'. This is the simple technique people use to remember almost ANYTHING. And it works for EVERYBODY.

There are other 'mental machines' and 'mental models' that you can learn as well. That make everything make sense. That make everything Easy.

You are not taught these things, because they want to keep your mind confused. And weak.

Good luck everyone. We need it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5764474

If it didn't originate from sacred geometry it is NOT true math!

2 cents or The "real" truth. Up to you what you believe

Last Edited by abalienari_non_possunt® on 05/02/2016 10:05 AM
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05/02/2016 10:08 AM
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Applied math - the basics of engineering, science, economics, etc. and all things useful.

Too bad it's not taught throughout schooling; but the reason for that is probably because most teachers themselves know little of applied math (they don't know the fields of application) and have no real work experience with it.

Smart school administrators would probably look for retired engineers, scientists, etc., to teach math.
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05/02/2016 10:11 AM
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Quik and then the understandable language translation but somethin
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Boost with area doze of, and that was racist, ohzo
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must be May
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Or gert with memorial day incl calendar ". &#128513;
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hahaha lol saved
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Oh geometric shapes are not scary afterwards but with distorting static... But that is made in a very symetric shaped way bleh blehbleh
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