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What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?

 
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What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
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the evidence is the same. How one interprets it is governed by their heart. If I want to be my own god then I will interpret it thusly.
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
the evidence is the same. How one interprets it is governed by their heart. If I want to be my own god then I will interpret it thusly.
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How can both be?
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
The number of people who have or will change their minds on the subject is impossible to estimate. There's little doubt that evolution has taken place, but does that mean the earth wasn't created. Some have beliefs that encompass both possibilities. What if the universe had no beginning?

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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
Makes no difference because both will inevitably return to the truth of their eternal nature.
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
You can believe in both. They're not mutually exclusive.

I believe God created the Earth, then stepped back and let it evolve on its own.
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
Romains 14:11

It is written : " as surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tounge will acknowledge God.

Jesus love you all even those who peirced him

Repent

Be thankful for the blood of Jesus Christ

Believe in God by walking with Christ the Lord

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I am the way , and the truth , and the life. No one come to the father except through me.


Everyone was created for a purpose recive the Holy Spirit recive your salvation !!

Promise you YOU don't not want judgment to come and hear Jesus tell you he never knew you and be denied eternal life in heaven

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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
Prey prey prey God bless
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There is so much irony here.
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
Mathew 12:30

"Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever
Does not gather me scatters me"



No in between no on the fence no both you either aligned with God or the "world" alignment with the world "Saran" does not give you eternal life in heaven

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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
You can believe in both. They're not mutually exclusive.

I believe God created the Earth, then stepped back and let it evolve on its own.
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Got any sensible ideas on how he did that?
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
You can believe in both. They're not mutually exclusive.

I believe God created the Earth, then stepped back and let it evolve on its own.
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Got any sensible ideas on how he did that?
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I never really broke it down. I don't believe it was a "7 days" type thing, just that he built the universe over time. Why would specifics be important?
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
OP? you do realise that all life on Earth was brought forth by the Earth? or do you?
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
You can believe in both. They're not mutually exclusive.

I believe God created the Earth, then stepped back and let it evolve on its own.
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Got any sensible ideas on how he did that?
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I never really broke it down. I don't believe it was a "7 days" type thing, just that he built the universe over time. Why would specifics be important?
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Because you canít develop a rock solid stable divine consciousness, free from sorrow and the need to give others sorrow, if your understanding is built on some airy-fairy idea that somehow I came into existence, but I really havenít a clue as to how that happened.

And you will not be able to speak with any authority when approached by somebody seeking spiritual help.
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
You can believe in both. They're not mutually exclusive.

I believe God created the Earth, then stepped back and let it evolve on its own.
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Got any sensible ideas on how he did that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30883165


I never really broke it down. I don't believe it was a "7 days" type thing, just that he built the universe over time. Why would specifics be important?
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Because you canít develop a rock solid stable divine consciousness, free from sorrow and the need to give others sorrow, if your understanding is built on some airy-fairy idea that somehow I came into existence, but I really havenít a clue as to how that happened.

And you will not be able to speak with any authority when approached by somebody seeking spiritual help.
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Alrighty then.

Way to belittle me.
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
OP? you do realise that all life on Earth was brought forth by the Earth? or do you?
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Quoting myself here, but... God said let the Earth bring forth all types of living things. The command came from the word of God(that is Jesus according to John) All things were created through him and for him, nothing that has been created has been created through any other means be it in Heaven or on Earth. Col 1:16/17
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
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Got any sensible ideas on how he did that?
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I never really broke it down. I don't believe it was a "7 days" type thing, just that he built the universe over time. Why would specifics be important?
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Because you canít develop a rock solid stable divine consciousness, free from sorrow and the need to give others sorrow, if your understanding is built on some airy-fairy idea that somehow I came into existence, but I really havenít a clue as to how that happened.

And you will not be able to speak with any authority when approached by somebody seeking spiritual help.
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Alrighty then.

Way to belittle me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62624910


That feeling that you have been attacked, which you havenít, is the enemy. Recognise that you yourself created that feeling and rise above it. Donít believe everything you mind tells you. That feeling is deceiving you and holding you back. You are better than that.
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
Pete 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends; with the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.


The word is the truth with all the answers and life read the word open your eyes

Repent prey love believe

Praise the Lord almighty in name Jesus Christ
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
OP? you do realise that all life on Earth was brought forth by the Earth? or do you?
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Okay....so where did the earth come from?
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
You can believe in both. They're not mutually exclusive.

I believe God created the Earth, then stepped back and let it evolve on its own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62624910


Why would God do that?

Genesis tells us God made each species "according to it's kind" and when he did that he found it "very good"


And what is "evolution" anyway...some force he "put in action" after creating the earth......as if to see what might happen?
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
This is the same as asking "will more people come to believe in Santa Claus that don't, or those that don't believe in Santa Claus will?".

Those that grow up and face reality stop believing in invisible super beings and the books of mythology they are described in.
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
I was an evolution believing science teacher once upon a time.

But then I looked at the evidence.

Now I am a Creationist
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
I was an evolution believing science teacher once upon a time.

But then I looked at the evidence.

Now I am a Creationist
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So what evidence changed your mind?
(The posted video at beginning of thread shows what changed that stanch Evolutionist's mind)

Any thoughts?

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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
You can believe in both. They're not mutually exclusive.

I believe God created the Earth, then stepped back and let it evolve on its own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62624910


Got any sensible ideas on how he did that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30883165


I never really broke it down. I don't believe it was a "7 days" type thing, just that he built the universe over time. Why would specifics be important?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62624910


Each creative day could have been many thousand years long
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
I like the fact that religious people quote their bible etc as proof of creationism, and say that evolution is a lie blah blah blah. But if science proved the Turin shroud was real they'd be jumping up and down and pointing too the scientific truth blah blah blah. Can't have it both ways religious people.
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
the evidence is the same. How one interprets it is governed by their heart. If I want to be my own god then I will interpret it thusly.
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How's that working out for ya?
"But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. 6 For from these arise those men who slyly work their way into households and lead as their captives weak women loaded down with sins, led by various desires, 7 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth." 2Ti3

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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
I like the fact that religious people quote their bible etc as proof of creationism, and say that evolution is a lie blah blah blah. But if science proved the Turin shroud was real they'd be jumping up and down and pointing too the scientific truth blah blah blah. Can't have it both ways religious people.
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The difference between the religious and the 'evolutionists' is, the religious proclaim their own selves saved, on their own terms. The 'evolutionists' admit that won't work, both are doomed to total meaningless futility.
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
the evidence is the same. How one interprets it is governed by their heart. If I want to be my own god then I will interpret it thusly.
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Right, it's hard to erase knowledge from the mind without admitting to deliberate self deception, it's much easier to gain knowledge to avoid being deceived/exploited.
"for one to know wisdom and discipline, to discern the sayings of understanding, 3 to receive the discipline that gives insight, righteousness and judgment and uprightness, 4 to give to the inexperienced ones shrewdness, to a young man knowledge and thinking ability.' Pr1
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Re: What is more likely,.that a person who believes in creation becomes an evolutionist or that an evolutionist comes to believe in creation?
You can believe in both. They're not mutually exclusive.

I believe God created the Earth, then stepped back and let it evolve on its own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62624910


With no additional DNA ever being added to any microbial? Did intelligence just form by chance from mud?





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