Hippies WHY LIBERALS ARE FASCISTS? | |
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LikeThis User ID: 166337 United States 12/13/2006 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or would seem odd if it were the case. The article does not show any evidence of this. And the parallel with Mussolini is ironic. Was he a young hippie too? Global Warming is probably going to have the effect of a World War on our world. So having Rush Limbaugh mislead people against the scientific community has had the effect of helping us lose a war. It is a very special case. And even so, I do not support criminializing dissent about it. I can almost see why they want to do it, though. Limbaugh and his friends were just lying anyway. |
Thanatos User ID: 159000 United States 12/13/2006 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny...I was under the impression that the conservatives were the ones who signed the Patriot Act, attacked Iraq for reasons that are beyond the comprehension of my puny brain, continue to refuse to ratify the Kyoto protocol and stop global warming, cordon protesters off into free speech zones, blend church and state, manipulate the media, grab suspects without a warrant and torture them until they talk and generally make fascist a-holes of themselves... My brain must be so small for me to have ever thought that, especially when Clinton did far, far worse things like get blowjobs from his secretary and smoke pot. Rarrgh! |
Thanatos User ID: 159000 United States 12/13/2006 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And as for your argument, why yes, us liberals are totally fascist about equality for the whole country. You see, there was once this document that said "all men are created equal..." Have you heard of it? Why we're so fascist we want to educate everybody about tolerance and alternate points of view so everybody will shut the fuck up about how their way is the only way. The nerve of those liberals! In fact, if you had asked Adolf Hitler, I bet you wouldn't have gotten a speech on tolerance for others. I bet you would have been told that the Nazis had the best of all possible ways, and there was no room for argument...wait! Would that make him...not a liberal? Hmmm....no! Its just liberal mind control! There is nothing wrong with my belief that conservatism is best! All people should think like me! Seriously, your position is indefensible. The Muslim extremists do this too. They think their values system is so superior that it justifies flying a few planes into buildings in order to scare us all into conforming to their ideas. You ARE allowed to continue to think that your way is best. It would be rather hypocritical of me to say that one must think like me after I just finished bashing you. However, if you put yourself out there you should be prepared to be exposed to modes of thought that are not your own and to have your views critically examined as you just criticized mine in the original post. Rarrgh! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7518 United States 12/13/2006 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't get lost in Liberal and Conservative Debates, The Big Picture is we are all getting played into polarizing are own special viewpoints into attacking each other over Bush did this and Clinton did that. while...we are losing are rights and quality of life not due to Republicans or Democrats but those forces behind the media's daily propaganda TV/News reports. Global Elite World Control Mother Fuckers... involved in groups such as the Bilderbergers, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission members and the secret societies that contain Republicans and Democrats. We piss off and fight each other because we have been played off against each because of our disposition to adopt belief systems sponsored by this secret society global groups to entrap us in conflict and fragmentation of society. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 150898 United States 12/13/2006 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nonsense. The original fascists were explicitly and even violently anti-liberal; it was an important part of their creed. See: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Important background is here: [link to www.spiritone.com] What Fascism Is & Isn't No other word causes so much misunderstanding, confusion, and heated debate in politics than fascism. The term has been applied to many individuals such as McCarthy, Hoover, and others. It is frequently used to describe government policies and government themselves, often incorrectly. What then is fascism exactly? Webster's Dictionary defines it as: "A government system marked by a centralized dictatorship, stringent socioeconomic controls and belligerent nationalism." But the author takes exception with that definition. At best, the definition is vague and abstract. Nor does the definition seem capable of taking into all forms of fascism. There is a resurgent, widespread attempt by the far right to label fascism as a form of socialism. Fredrick von Hayek was the first to attempt labeling the Nazis as socialists in his book The Road to Serfdom published in 1944.70 The hard right quickly adopted it, as it allowed the hard right to escape the charges that they had much in common with the Nazis.2 Such endeavors are not only silly, but dishonest as well and represent an attempt by the far right to distance themselves for their earlier support of Hitler. Hayek's book is based on two erroneous assumptions from the very beginning. He first assumes that fascism and communism are one and the same, as they are both totalitarian systems. This makes about as much sense as calling a maple tree a pine tree because both are trees. His second erroneous assumption lays in his belief that only socialism or liberalism leads to totalitarian systems. In fact, all political systems can lead to totalitarian systems and all political systems are inherently unstable, as is any system created by man. From there, Hayek takes severe liberties with history. For instance, he goes on to claim that by deliberate policy the United States by allowed the growth of cartels and syndicates after 1878.71 Indeed this date and time period is significant, but not for a move towards socialism or liberalism. Rather, it's the opposite a move towards fascism and corporate rule. Even a reader with a rudimentary knowledge of American history would recognize this time frame as the beginning of the robber baron era and laissez faire economics, precisely the type of economic policy Hayek holds in utmost esteem. Hayek offers little proof to support his conclusions; in fact the book is devoid of any proof or even examples to support his findings. The book degenerates into an argument based upon unsubstantiated assertion. He argues against the nation state and proposes a supernational authority or world federation made up of the financial elite. In essence, Hayek proposes a world made up of sovereign corporations accountable to no one. Not only did Hayek take severe liberties with American history, he ignored the very nature of fascism in Germany and Italy. [... SNIP.... get the rest at the URL...] |
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