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Why can't I prove the earth is round?

 
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I received the same response when I had a question about gravity. I didn't say that it didn't exist, I was looking for a clarification. People get so angry but it ties in with the flat earth theory. How can gravity be strong enough to hold the oceans in place yet allow a butterfly to flutter about? I am not an idiot for asking this question! I don't know if the earth is round or not. My question is how gravity fit's into either position. Op, ask your questions and continue your search for knowledge. Others may know all of the answers to your questions. Keep asking and keep wondering.
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its called density, everything has a different mass.

if you stood on top of sears tower disregarding air resistance and dropped a 10 lb bowling ball and 10 lb of feathers which would hit the ground first?
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Thanks, I get it. the greater the surface area the more air resistance to a drop. But I can't get over one thing. Gravity has the ability to HOLD billions of gallons of ocean in place but differences in mass can have an effect on this incredible force. Do you see why I'm struggling with it?
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You're a braindead flathead, yes we get it.
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One more time. I don't know if the earth is flat or round. I have questions. You're the lucky one that has everything figured out. I may be a fool for asking questions but you may be a fool for KNOWING everything.
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show me a fucking genuine photo of a globe not a photo of a painting or cgi. still waiting....
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Exactly .Same photo of cgi globe for 40yrs
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so what CGI has been around longer then computers that make CGI????

2001 was not CGI folks...sorry it just was not....

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also playing back video longer then 20 minutes was not easy...1 hour back in the 60's would be a huge achievement with the tech they had......

still waiting for any images of the edge.....just one.

why do i see the curve with my eyes up on top a high mountain....or in a plane....everyone sees this with there own eyes....no camera needed. so if it is seen with a naked eye how is it faked?

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This is from the bible and see, it supports the flat earth theory because a circle is only a flat plane and not the same as a sphere..
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You have to be higher to see it - 80,000 feet or so will work.
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Oh aye, no fisheye lens here at all.

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I agree. It shows both flat and curvature at the same time.
Now you see it now you don't.
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Its because the camera probably has some lens or software that flattens a horizon to parallel, and when the balloon busted the software couldn't process it.
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Oh aye, no fisheye lens here at all.

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I agree. It shows both flat and curvature at the same time.
Now you see it now you don't.
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Its because the camera probably has some lens or software that flattens a horizon to parallel, and when the balloon busted the software couldn't process it.
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Same thing here?

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If you lived in Sacramento, the Sierra Nevada mountains rise 14,000 feet to your east. If the the earth was flat then those mountains would rise high into the sky and on a clear day you could see them from Sacramento.

Whatever the atmospheric conditions, every morning, when the sun rises, it will not rise on the horizon on a flat earth. Because the earth is flat the sun would be eclipsed a few degrees above the horizon. Eclipsed by the 14000 ft mountains. You would see the sun high above the horizon suddenly emerging from behind the mountains.

On a round earth the mountains would be under the curve so the sun would always rise on the horizon in Sacramento.

Guess what? The sun always rises on the horizon.

This proves the earth is round.

NEXT?
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Because it isn't!!

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If you lived in Sacramento, the Sierra Nevada mountains rise 14,000 feet to your east. If the the earth was flat then those mountains would rise high into the sky and on a clear day you could see them from Sacramento.

Whatever the atmospheric conditions, every morning, when the sun rises, it will not rise on the horizon on a flat earth. Because the earth is flat the sun would be eclipsed a few degrees above the horizon. Eclipsed by the 14000 ft mountains. You would see the sun high above the horizon suddenly emerging from behind the mountains.

On a round earth the mountains would be under the curve so the sun would always rise on the horizon in Sacramento.

Guess what? The sun always rises on the horizon.

This proves the earth is round.

NEXT?
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Idiot, it's called the law of perspective
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If you lived in Sacramento, the Sierra Nevada mountains rise 14,000 feet to your east. If the the earth was flat then those mountains would rise high into the sky and on a clear day you could see them from Sacramento.

Whatever the atmospheric conditions, every morning, when the sun rises, it will not rise on the horizon on a flat earth. Because the earth is flat the sun would be eclipsed a few degrees above the horizon. Eclipsed by the 14000 ft mountains. You would see the sun high above the horizon suddenly emerging from behind the mountains.

On a round earth the mountains would be under the curve so the sun would always rise on the horizon in Sacramento.

Guess what? The sun always rises on the horizon.

This proves the earth is round.

NEXT?
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Idiot, it's called the law of perspective
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Specifically known as "Vanishing point". Objects on/at the horizon shrink to the same level as the horizon, thus they vanish. [link to www.math.utah.edu]
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If you lived in Sacramento, the Sierra Nevada mountains rise 14,000 feet to your east. If the the earth was flat then those mountains would rise high into the sky and on a clear day you could see them from Sacramento.

Whatever the atmospheric conditions, every morning, when the sun rises, it will not rise on the horizon on a flat earth. Because the earth is flat the sun would be eclipsed a few degrees above the horizon. Eclipsed by the 14000 ft mountains. You would see the sun high above the horizon suddenly emerging from behind the mountains.

On a round earth the mountains would be under the curve so the sun would always rise on the horizon in Sacramento.

Guess what? The sun always rises on the horizon.

This proves the earth is round.

NEXT?
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The horizon is always at your eye level.
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If you lived in Sacramento, the Sierra Nevada mountains rise 14,000 feet to your east. If the the earth was flat then those mountains would rise high into the sky and on a clear day you could see them from Sacramento.

Whatever the atmospheric conditions, every morning, when the sun rises, it will not rise on the horizon on a flat earth. Because the earth is flat the sun would be eclipsed a few degrees above the horizon. Eclipsed by the 14000 ft mountains. You would see the sun high above the horizon suddenly emerging from behind the mountains.

On a round earth the mountains would be under the curve so the sun would always rise on the horizon in Sacramento.

Guess what? The sun always rises on the horizon.

This proves the earth is round.

NEXT?
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Idiot, it's called the law of perspective
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Specifically known as "Vanishing point". Objects on/at the horizon shrink to the same level as the horizon, thus they vanish. [link to www.math.utah.edu]
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Your link to the "Vanishing point" also shows that objects get smaller when they approach the "Vanishing point" until the vanish in a little point.

Do you observe the sun getting smaller at sun sets until it vanishes in a little dot?

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Where's the EDGE.

Burden of proof on the Flat Tards. Just show the Edge (not the U2 guitarist).

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If you lived in Sacramento, the Sierra Nevada mountains rise 14,000 feet to your east. If the the earth was flat then those mountains would rise high into the sky and on a clear day you could see them from Sacramento.

Whatever the atmospheric conditions, every morning, when the sun rises, it will not rise on the horizon on a flat earth. Because the earth is flat the sun would be eclipsed a few degrees above the horizon. Eclipsed by the 14000 ft mountains. You would see the sun high above the horizon suddenly emerging from behind the mountains.

On a round earth the mountains would be under the curve so the sun would always rise on the horizon in Sacramento.

Guess what? The sun always rises on the horizon.

This proves the earth is round.

NEXT?
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Idiot, it's called the law of perspective
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64144361

Specifically known as "Vanishing point". Objects on/at the horizon shrink to the same level as the horizon, thus they vanish. [link to www.math.utah.edu]
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Your link to the "Vanishing point" also shows that objects get smaller when they approach the "Vanishing point" until the vanish in a little point.

Do you observe the sun getting smaller at sun sets until it vanishes in a little dot?

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Good point.. I'm not an FE'er, but I enjoy the thought exercise so I'm speculating here...

If the earth is flat, and there exist a theoretical dome, perhaps the dome is magnifying it rather precisely as the sun travels above it.
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Where's the EDGE.

Burden of proof on the Flat Tards. Just show the Edge (not the US guitarist).
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Why must there be an edge? Perhaps it's in infinite plane. There's an international treaty that prevents civilians from accessing the waters around Antarctica. Regular people/explorers are turned back by military force. FE'ers don't know if there's an edge..
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Where's the EDGE.

Burden of proof on the Flat Tards. Just show the Edge (not the U2 guitarist).
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Snip:

"The earth is in the form of a disk with the North Pole in the center and Antarctica as a wall around the edge. This is the generally accepted model among members of the society. In this model, circumnavigation is performed by moving in a great circle around the North Pole.

The earth is surrounded on all sides by an ice wall that holds the oceans back. This ice wall is what explorers have named Antarctica. Beyond the ice wall is a topic of great interest to the Flat Earth Society. To our knowledge, no one has been very far past the ice wall and returned to tell of their journey. What we do know is that it encircles the earth and serves to hold in our oceans and helps protect us from whatever lies beyond."

I's starting to think that I am a Tard.
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Idiot, it's called the law of perspective
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Specifically known as "Vanishing point". Objects on/at the horizon shrink to the same level as the horizon, thus they vanish. [link to www.math.utah.edu]
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Your link to the "Vanishing point" also shows that objects get smaller when they approach the "Vanishing point" until the vanish in a little point.

Do you observe the sun getting smaller at sun sets until it vanishes in a little dot?
 Quoting: Hydra

Good point.. I'm not an FE'er, but I enjoy the thought exercise so I'm speculating here...

If the earth is flat, and there exist a theoretical dome, perhaps the dome is magnifying it rather precisely as the sun travels above it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571

Then the dome would magnify everything approaching the "Vanishing Point", e.g. a car.
Then the "Vanishing Point" would not be a "Vanishing Point" any more.

But may be it's magic. /sarcasm

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please stop perpetuating this flat earth nonsense

the theory originates from cave dwellars attempting to discredit the advances of western science

look at your argument

your essentially stated that all photos of earth are the creation of cgi, so you have already fallen into the trap
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Specifically known as "Vanishing point". Objects on/at the horizon shrink to the same level as the horizon, thus they vanish. [link to www.math.utah.edu]
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Your link to the "Vanishing point" also shows that objects get smaller when they approach the "Vanishing point" until the vanish in a little point.

Do you observe the sun getting smaller at sun sets until it vanishes in a little dot?
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Good point.. I'm not an FE'er, but I enjoy the thought exercise so I'm speculating here...

If the earth is flat, and there exist a theoretical dome, perhaps the dome is magnifying it rather precisely as the sun travels above it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571

Then the dome would magnify everything approaching the "Vanishing Point", e.g. a car.
Then the "Vanishing Point" would not be a "Vanishing Point" any more.

But may be it's magic. /sarcasm

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Not so. The car would exists INSIDE the dome. Cosmological luminaries exist OUTSIDE the dome. If you hold a magnifying glass behind your head, does the object you're looking at get magnified?

Since cosmological luminaries appear to be of equal size, if there were a dome, it could be conceivable that it is responsible for magnification as these luminaries recede to its vanishing point.

But as I said, I'm speculating within the theory.. It's a fun thought experiment.
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If the earth is flat, which side are we on and what's on the other side? And how thick is it...and what if anything exists on the edge?
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You were told the truth in the last thread you made about this, it's why it was deleted.
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Thanks, I get it. the greater the surface area the more air resistance to a drop. But I can't get over one thing. Gravity has the ability to HOLD billions of gallons of ocean in place but differences in mass can have an effect on this incredible force. Do you see why I'm struggling with it?
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" ... Gravity has the ability to HOLD billions of gallons of ocean in place ..."

What is do you mean "hold it in place", as if something is trying to pull it away? What do you think is trying to pull the ocean away?
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Thanks, I get it. the greater the surface area the more air resistance to a drop. But I can't get over one thing. Gravity has the ability to HOLD billions of gallons of ocean in place but differences in mass can have an effect on this incredible force. Do you see why I'm struggling with it?
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" ... Gravity has the ability to HOLD billions of gallons of ocean in place ..."

What is do you mean "hold it in place", as if something is trying to pull it away? What do you think is trying to pull the ocean away?
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Evaporation chuckle
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Your link to the "Vanishing point" also shows that objects get smaller when they approach the "Vanishing point" until the vanish in a little point.

Do you observe the sun getting smaller at sun sets until it vanishes in a little dot?
 Quoting: Hydra

Good point.. I'm not an FE'er, but I enjoy the thought exercise so I'm speculating here...

If the earth is flat, and there exist a theoretical dome, perhaps the dome is magnifying it rather precisely as the sun travels above it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571

Then the dome would magnify everything approaching the "Vanishing Point", e.g. a car.
Then the "Vanishing Point" would not be a "Vanishing Point" any more.

But may be it's magic. /sarcasm
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Not so. The car would exists INSIDE the dome. Cosmological luminaries exist OUTSIDE the dome. If you hold a magnifying glass behind your head, does the object you're looking at get magnified?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571

Is this the official Flattie guideline?


But as I said, I'm speculating within the theory.. It's a fun thought experiment.
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Some food for your fun thought experiment:
* How can you explain today's Mercury transit in a flat earth that showed the same path across the sun in the northern and southern hemisphere?
* How did Sun and Moon move in the flat earth to draw the path of the January 15, 2010 annular solar eclipse?

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Specifically known as "Vanishing point". Objects on/at the horizon shrink to the same level as the horizon, thus they vanish. [link to www.math.utah.edu]
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Your link to the "Vanishing point" also shows that objects get smaller when they approach the "Vanishing point" until the vanish in a little point.

Do you observe the sun getting smaller at sun sets until it vanishes in a little dot?
 Quoting: Hydra

Good point.. I'm not an FE'er, but I enjoy the thought exercise so I'm speculating here...

If the earth is flat, and there exist a theoretical dome, perhaps the dome is magnifying it rather precisely as the sun travels above it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571

Then the dome would magnify everything approaching the "Vanishing Point", e.g. a car.
Then the "Vanishing Point" would not be a "Vanishing Point" any more.

But may be it's magic. /sarcasm

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Why would a car be magnified? Do cars travel in space behind the dome? Jesus, troll. You're an idiot
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Good point.. I'm not an FE'er, but I enjoy the thought exercise so I'm speculating here...

If the earth is flat, and there exist a theoretical dome, perhaps the dome is magnifying it rather precisely as the sun travels above it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571

Then the dome would magnify everything approaching the "Vanishing Point", e.g. a car.
Then the "Vanishing Point" would not be a "Vanishing Point" any more.

But may be it's magic. /sarcasm
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Not so. The car would exists INSIDE the dome. Cosmological luminaries exist OUTSIDE the dome. If you hold a magnifying glass behind your head, does the object you're looking at get magnified?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571

Is this the official Flattie guideline?


But as I said, I'm speculating within the theory.. It's a fun thought experiment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571

Some food for your fun thought experiment:
* How can you explain today's Mercury transit in a flat earth that showed the same path across the sun in the northern and southern hemisphere?
* How did Sun and Moon move in the flat earth to draw the path of the January 15, 2010 annular solar eclipse?

:fease150110:

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Two Mercuries, of course. LOL.
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Good point.. I'm not an FE'er, but I enjoy the thought exercise so I'm speculating here...

If the earth is flat, and there exist a theoretical dome, perhaps the dome is magnifying it rather precisely as the sun travels above it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571

Then the dome would magnify everything approaching the "Vanishing Point", e.g. a car.
Then the "Vanishing Point" would not be a "Vanishing Point" any more.

But may be it's magic. /sarcasm
 Quoting: Hydra

Not so. The car would exists INSIDE the dome. Cosmological luminaries exist OUTSIDE the dome. If you hold a magnifying glass behind your head, does the object you're looking at get magnified?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571

Is this the official Flattie guideline?


But as I said, I'm speculating within the theory.. It's a fun thought experiment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27180571

Some food for your fun thought experiment:
* How can you explain today's Mercury transit in a flat earth that showed the same path across the sun in the northern and southern hemisphere?
* How did Sun and Moon move in the flat earth to draw the path of the January 15, 2010 annular solar eclipse?

:fease150110:

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 Quoting: Hydra


Every single picture of that transit are fake. That one was easy.

As far as eclipses, we don't know the construct. Also, the sun and moon have both been in the sky during lunar eclipses, that's impossible on a globe.
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Every single picture of that transit are fake. That one was easy.

As far as eclipses, we don't know the construct. Also, the sun and moon have both been in the sky during lunar eclipses, that's impossible on a globe.
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waitwhat
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Every single picture of that transit are fake. That one was easy.

As far as eclipses, we don't know the construct. Also, the sun and moon have both been in the sky during lunar eclipses, that's impossible on a globe.
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waitwhat
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"On Oct. 8, Interested skywatchers should attempt to see the total eclipse of the moon and the rising sun simultaneously. The little-used name for this effect is called a "selenelion," a phenomenon that celestial geometry says cannot happen. "

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I've never found a real picture of a satellite in orbit when there are supposedly thousands of them.
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BRO you can see the ISS which is a satellite with your naked eye not even any telescope or magnification is required.





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