Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox.

And what if they're not? We must not know everything out there we just found planet "nine" for cripes sake...

Time will tell, and UFO disclosure must happen as well, more leaks to come on this front...

Yes I'm a "Zetadrone" but still have the right to be myself as we all are...

Dont hate the player hate the game... We've all been lied to and mislead by the establishment...

Peace

No we haven't. We think it might be out there, but we haven't found it yet precisely because it ISN'T a "second sun" hanging out near the real sun. Such a thing would be OBVIOUS to astronomers everywhere.

Hi Astro

Always a pleasure...

Peace

How does one convince oneself that the earth is stopped in its orbit (for years now) and that the seasons are merely "simulated" by wobbling the earth around about its axis in a manner that would be completely unlike the normal annual motion of the sky?

Because nobody laughs at their own jokes, isn't even a human thing.

/sarcasm



Rinse, repeat!



Because there can be only ONE "hobby psychologist" on the house, and that's Hydra saying that "nobody laughs at their own jokes".



Back in the good ol' days, every astronomer around the world knew the Earth was the center of the universe and everybody else orbited around it.





Now we know that government shills aren't submitted to grammar tests before getting hired.





How do you know they are apart from each other by "some 100k km"???

Hey mr "astronomer", during an eclipse the Moon looks the SAME diameter of the Sun as seen from Earth. How do you know the 2nd object pointed by Cox is not smaller and closer to Earth than the Sun, or bigger and farther than the Sun??????

Hydra ---> but, but, but...



I'm pretty sure they are busier than you government-paid clowns 24/7 on the internet, with a lot of free time to steal oxygen and roll on the floor laughing.



More like stating the obvious!



Rinse, repeat, rinse more, repeat again.



Mr astronomer, can't you count to 10???

The 10th fact got you all bent out of shape, didn't???

Does it matter that I believe this way? Or if I answered all of your questions it won't matter cuz you'll just still think the way you do. Its a hopeless endeavor with you for I still won't say the right things to convince you otherwise...

We are what we are. I'm me, and you a debunker of my beliefs... But we need each other just the same...

Peace

Too much ging is bad for you...Or at least it makes you sound stupid...

I'm simply asking how you can believe that, given that it flies in the face of such easily examined observational evidence. Really I'm just genuinely curious how one convinces oneself of such a thing.

If you presented evidence that the sky was moving in that manner, I would follow that evidence. But so far all I see is evidence that the sky is following its expected motion due to earth's rotation as well as its orbit around the sun.

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So the Earth wobbles right?


Global warming is changing the way the Earth wobbles on its polar axis, a new Nasa study has found.
[link to www.theguardian.com]

Yes, the earth experiences precession, nutation, chandler wobble, etc. None of that is large enough to affect the visual appearance of the sky over a human lifetime, nor is it the reason we experience our annual seasons, nor does it have anything to do with the scale of motion that Lieder claims is simulating our seasons. We're not talking about cycles that take place over thousands of years, or milliarcseconds of annual motion, we're talking about having to 'simulate the seasons' by wobbling the earth around by effectively precessing all 23.5 degrees of tilt through an entire circuit every single year.

HD 162826: Astronomers Discover Second Sun
[link to www.sci-news.com]
Astronomers from the United States, Russia and Australia have discovered the first true solar sibling – HD 162826.
star born in the same star cluster as our Sun, is located in the constellation Hercules, about 110 light-years away from Earth. It has a mass about 1.15 times that of the Sun.

The star is not visible to the unaided eye but can be seen with low-power binoculars, not far from Vega.

This is a part of the obfuscation. It's people employed by NASA making those claims. It's called a "straw man"

Earth's wobble changed radically:
[link to www.technologyreview.com (secure)]

Really ? You think the above reply was a meltdown?

Take more than you and your retarded teenage lovechild's comments to make me meltdown bitch.

You mad, bro?

Conspiracy nuts always moan about the powers that control the world, silencing the truth 24/7, but then immediately insist on censoring discussions that contain opposing view points.

The hypocrisy is deafening.

IDW, I love you. How big, precisely, was this "radical" change?

And how do you explain permanently mounted telescopes still aligning with and tracking the heavens as predicted, including telescopes about a century or more old? How did they *magically* adapt to such a wobble, if it is so "radical?"

You should read the article before responding. Just some advice.

If by "radically" you mean on a level so small it takes a lot of very expensive and precise equipment to measure it, then yes.

If you mean "detectable by the naked eye in the positions of stars", then no...

Hydra got all his shill heads ass-handed in a silver plate big time with this one.

He won't be coming back on this thread anytime soon.

Highlights and funniest moments:

Has nothing to do with this subject. You're quote mining without paying attention to the context. The star in question there is light years away, but was probably born out of the same nebula as our sun. I did a webcast about that star two years ago. It's not "Nibiru" or anything in our solar system.
Thread: Astronomy Webcast! *Stacked images on page 4!
Here's my image of it, it's the bright blue star in the center:
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]

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Look, this is a conspiracy site, so way out there thinking is expected. And yeah, there are probably tons of conspiracies dealing with stuff HERE ON EARTH. But with all the telescopes available, amateur and professional astronomers looking waaaaaaaaay out into space, there's no way to cover up something like this stupid-ass theory. It's really the worst of them all. There isn't some sort of hologram up there, they can't block out every inch of the sky, just stop it already.

Is Hydra ok????

:epcilol:

You didn't even try to respond to my post. Must have been right on the mark then, thanks.

Yeah, as much as I like to read ZT, simply for the vast amount of data, I mean what agency pays for the compilation of all that stuff?, the fact that the earth is halted in it's orbit despite the simulated tilting, would mean that the constellations during the yearly orbit would all be off

Impatient much?

There are things out there that make more fun than letting Nibbies look like fools.

Though .... letting Nibbies look like fools is some fun, too.

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Hi Romania, some time ago one of your countryman tried to make an April fool of me.
Didn't work, guess why <- Me - Romania ->


See #1



See #1



That's called: progress in science



Oh, the grammar thing - no arguments left?



Yes, you are right.
The second sun is way out of focus - that indicates that the second sun is about 100 meters above earth.





Busy observing the "Second Sun"?




Uuuh, the shill gambit again




See #7



Yes, I can. Pure Nibbie style: Announcing "10 pesky facts pissing off GLP shills" and providing only 9

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This Nibirutard got a reply from Slooh saying it was a joke, but of course the Nibirutard then goes on to claim its just a cover up lmfao...

Link: [link to youtu.be]

Nibirutards Gonna Tard

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