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Amazing 911 insight by David Shayler, former MI5 agent

 
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Amazing 911 insight by David Shayler, former MI5 agent
I have attended a talk by David Shayler, the MI5 agent turned whistleblower when he discovered that the UK government had funded a known Islamic terrorist group in order as part of a deal for them killing Gadaffi. They did were going to kill him by planting a bomb under his car. They did... but they got the wrong car and 11 innocent people died.

This took place in the 1990s. They gave the main terrorist $40 000.

Well, he didn't understand WHY the UK and US government were funding this until he realised through inside information that infact it was regime change. Not to get rid of Gadaffi, but because the incoming group would be radicals and would therefore justify the US invading Libya and... you guessed it, taking control of their oil as well as having one of the most strategic pieces of land in the Middle East on which to build their bases.

The failure meant that Gadaffi survived and the invasion could not take place.

But that's not the most amazinf insight that Shayler has. Even more than this is how 911 was a failed operation. Failed? But it was perfect! The buildings came down!

Yes... but we didn't see the entire game. It's been staring us in the face all this time but it took a brilliant mind with inside information (access to the most classified of intelligence documents) to piece it together. Shayler really is that intelligent. Spend 5 minutes with him and you will see what I mean.

Well, the end game was this: Flight 93 was to land on the Whitehouse. You see, under US law at the time, if that happened, it would be martial law in the US and under those conditions, the entire 911 plot could have been completely tidied up, all the evidence buried. We would not be able to have the 911 truth movement today. Anyone claiming that it was an inside job would be so far out on the extremes of conspiracy theory that they would never be taken seriously and certainly must less of the material available today would have been available to the truth movement.

Now we KNOW that this was planned (martial law) because on the 10th Nov 2001 it had been put in the MSM! There were articles published to the American people about how martial law could be enacted in the event of the US government (Washington DC) being attacked directly. So the US population was actually PRIMED for that.

Not only that, but the antrax attacks DID attack the US government, only it was too late then to declare martial law so Plan B didn't bail them out either. And worse, the antrax was traced by the FBI to US laboratories where on a few select personnel had access to it so it was undeniably and inside job. Which is why the headlines claiming that the anthrax was Iraqi played enough to imprint the mantra in the population's minds, then the entire anthrax hoax was made to quietly and quickly disappear.

So what went wrong?

The shooting down of 93 was a renegade action by a true American hero officer and the pilot that did the deed. The order to shoot down WAS NOT GIVEN. I.e. The inaction was there to guarantee the Whitehouse would be hit. Instead of the lies in the movie "United 93", the real hero of 911 was indeed associated with flight 93 coming down but it was not some fictious all American man in the street blued eyed boys. The real hero remains unknown. Anonymous. Denied. The real hero was the officer that saw the no-shoot as a NORAD botch and did his job and had that aircraft shot down.

The entire planet owes that man its thanks. I wonder if he even lived through the day? They may well have shot him on sight.

Now, I haven't researched this but I am willing to bet good money that if you go back in the news archives, you will find that NONE of the important people were in the Whitehouse on 911. You may even find Bush opponents WERE in the Whitehouse that day!

Not only that, but as Shayler points out, Jeb Bush jumped the gun. He declared martial law too soon in Florida. There was no reason for that declaration and it's one of those key facts that the 911 truth movement has missed. It's key fact for prosecuting as conspiracy to the murders, Jeb Bush as well as the usual suspects in the Administration. It's the smoking gun against Jeb Bush being an insider.

But the "failure" in NORAD and the other points of control, i.e. the things that were meant to allow 93 to hit the Whitehouse were undone by a quick thinking officer who ordered the plane to be taken down. 93 was, to use Shayler's term, a key failure in the plot. A cockup that, to quote Shayler "they simply didn't expect or plan for this".

When you realise this truth, suddenly many of the loose ends click into place. Suddenly, so much makes sense. So many of the Bush "incompetancies" are shown to be not incompetance, but quickstepping out a contingency. The inept neoCon scrambling and bumbling of the invasion is suddenly very clearly a group of well rehearsed, well disciplined, well planned people wrongfooted by the most unexpected of cockups.

Flight 93 is where 911 went wrong for them. And one of the reasons that the propaganda around that plane was in overdrive. United 93 the film, the stories of the heros, the only "black box that survived"... all these were disctractions. Very clever distractions. You see, by keeping the "was is shot down" debate going as an initial catch point for the sheep backed up by the "how come the mobile phones worked?" as the catch point for those not fooled by the first catch point, no-one got thinking about the actual flight itself and the key role it played. No-one has been thinking about the possibility that it was a monumental cockup that the plotters simply hadn't accounted for. No-one has been thinking "what if it had reached its target, what would have happened?". And that's clever human manipulation for you. That's really clever brains thinking at high speed to bail out of a catastrophe.

But 93 went badly wrong for the plotters. Because it gave that little window of opportunity for the truth movement to see the faults in the story, see the holes in the evidence and start to question the official line. Martial law was meant to ensure that no questions could be asked, no evidence could survive and no-one would have the time to ask because of what was meant to immediately follow. The sequence of events would have been so swift that we would be focussed now on the fallout of the WMD use that was almost certainly in the plan. 911 would be a minor footnote that no-one would be interested in by now.

Had 93 reached "mission complete". Had martial law been declared, complete control over the media, release of information and the cleanup (getting rid of the evidence) would have happened and bingo! The entire 911 plot would have played out and the world right now would have been a completely different place. Iran, Syria, Iraq, North Korea, Afghanistan probably would have had nuclear weapons used against them to simply "solve the problem". With the US government "wiped out", no-one would have either held the Bush crowd accoutable nor have the ability to even if they tried.

Which explains another anomally about the plot: How the neoCons so totally screwed up the invasions without an exit strategy. The visible evidence being the mess that Iraq is in with the US having its butt kicked.

See, they never needed an exit strategy because they were never going to invade the way that they were forced to. That was NOT the plan. The plan was to use the overwhelming force of American super weapons in quick, lethal blows that the world would have had to stand by and accept because the US government itself would have been directly attacked, possibly with key opponents to the WH wiped out as part of the deal. Who would stop the US? Indeed, who would even BLAME the US?

Their original plan was perfect. It was a good plan. I was a perfect plan.

There was no need to plant a passport. There was no need to explain 911. If you don't explain then there are no holes in the story because there simply is no story. Your cover is perfect. No 911 commission, no NIST scrambling to prove the impossible, no questions about WTC7. Nothing to attack the neoCon agenda with because no accountability given because under martial law, the US government would be unassailable.

And that also explains those massive FEMA detention camps that GLP was so hyped up about many years ago. We were all mystified as to why they were being built. Now it's clear! Even under martial law there would have been those who didn't agree with the neoCons. Those detention camps would have been filled with these dissidents.

Sit back and think of all the odd behaviour that has puzzled us about the BushCo. How they seem to have wrongfooted themselves all the time. And think about how things would have been different in 93 had hit its target. It all makes perfect sense.

Behind the scenes there must have been frantic redrawing of plans. Years and years of careful, step by step detail was trashed when that missile hit 93. And because of that, errors were made. And because of THAT, we have the truth movement and the very real chance to expose this hoax and nail the guilty party.

Which could be why Bush bought into Paraguay.

Also, look at where Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, Bremer and all the other PNAC players were on the day. Look at their actions. In the light of what was EXPECTED to happen, it all makes sense. Perfect, perfect sense.

This is a startling revelation by Shayler and an absolute lynchpin in understanding 911 and what has followed. It explains so much, ties up so many loose ends and just fits the picture so well, even down to the reactions of the people involved, that it really is the only credible missing piece.

And more still, it's clear that the recycling deal must have been planned months before for the steel shipments from the 911 demolition. All that executed perfectly. But rather than it being a secret kept "for security reasons" away from any public knowledge for decades to come, maybe even centuries, it's now in the open. And one more item to point at the guilty parties with.

For me personally, it's the effectiveness of the psyops of 93 that gets me. How the diversion has worked so extremely well, How the realisation of how 911 was actually a massive cockup simply hasn't featured anywhere up until now.

That makes me shake my head in admiration for the brains that pulled it together. Real professionals. Nasty, evil, but so very clever.
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Re: Amazing 911 insight by David Shayler, former MI5 agent
They could have done a better job with the Pentagon. Quite a few problems problems with that story as well.

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Re: Amazing 911 insight by David Shayler, former MI5 agent
Todd Beamer and his band of heroes took down that plane IMHO.
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Re: Amazing 911 insight by David Shayler, former MI5 agent
They could have done a better job with the Pentagon. Quite a few problems problems with that story as well.

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Hmm... that's a very good point!
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Re: Amazing 911 insight by David Shayler, former MI5 agent
Libya was meant to be the first country, not Afghanistan, but the coup failed.
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Do you have a link? I'd like to read more about it.
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I live in Florida. Martial law wasn't declared in Florida.
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I live in Florida. Martial law wasn't declared in Florida.
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Looks like maybe it was, four days prior to 9-11;

[link to proliberty.com]

No doubt you'll handwave this away.
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Re: Amazing 911 insight by David Shayler, former MI5 agent
Bump because this is seriouse piece of shit that needs people to look at it!

They fucked up, some one became a forever unknown hero, and now, they are reaping the whirl wind of their failure, and young fighting people are dying because of their greedy bastard behaviour.

Time for some folks on the hill to dance the hemp fandango!
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Wow. Great find OP. Only one small question:

When mentioning that nobody important from the administartion was in the white house, and in fact, even some of the administartion's opponents were to be there; it makes me wonder why they might be there. Isn't the whole illuminati thing supposed to be composed of the elite, who presumably control BOTH the dems and the republicans? So, having democrats in the WH on 9/11 makes no sense. Wouldn't some of them have been in on it too?

Unless, by opponents of the administration, you meant like foreign heads of state or something.

bump
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THIS SHOULD BE PINNED!!!!!! bump
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I live in Florida. Martial law wasn't declared in Florida.


Looks like maybe it was, four days prior to 9-11;

[link to proliberty.com]

No doubt you'll handwave this away.
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OK, 9/7/06 he signed Executive Order 01-261. This was a carbon copy of a previous Executive Order already in effect basically they added a paragraph that included Florida Ports. I see nothing that unusual in doing that. The timing was just a coincidence. He did declare a state of emergency right after the second tower fell, hell I don't blame him a bit for doing that. But martial Law was not put into effect, we didn't have troops in the street.

Say what you want about Jeb Bush. As far as I'm concerned he was a good governor I was sorry to see him go. Florida has handled it's natural disasters very well under his Governance. He always got the needed personel in with efficiency and little fan-fare. Jeb Bush was a popular governor and I've never really heard my fellow Floridians take him to task over any issues.

Local law enforcement is courteous and efficient I've never really had them give me any problems and one time when I got into trouble (no insurance, expired tag, suspended license with knowledge) they cut me a lot of slack. He just wrote me the tickets and let me drive away. He had every right to take me to jail and confiscate the vehicle. If that is Martial Law it sure doesn't feel like it.
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Re: Amazing 911 insight by David Shayler, former MI5 agent
As far as the article the OP posted goes.

I don't see any hard evidence there. It's mostly conjecture and opinion.
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Re: Amazing 911 insight by David Shayler, former MI5 agent
"Jeb Bush jumped the gun. He declared martial law too soon in Florida."


he declared a state of emergency...one step from martial law...it doesn't matter as to how he has dealt with hurricanes or if you got off with a ticket...what matters is that he had signed this step in a one step from martial law...why?




"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Florida Governor Jeb Bush signed Executive Order 01-261 September 7, 2001, four days before the WTC tragedy of Sept. 11, which paves the way for a declaration of martial law in his state. The governor, in his EO, delegated to, ...the Adjutant General of the state of Florida all necessary authority....to order members of the Florida National Guard into Active Service.

Immediately after the second WTC tower fell, Governor Bush signed EO 01-262 to make Florida the first state to declare a state of emergency though his state did not experience any terrorist events that day. Governor Bush is reportedly the only governor in the U.S. outside of NY and D.C. to make a declaration of martial law in the wake of the WTC tragedy. Interestingly, Governor Bush's declaration came before authorities in New York or Washington, D.C. declared states of emergency." [link to proliberty.com]
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it's rather like asking why the president and family were on Cipro before there was the output of anthrax...

things to make you go...hmmmm.
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but actually...conjecture...i would think an MI5 agent would be able to say more than what one...could back then...as well as now...find readily on the net or at the library.
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WOW. I have never seen anyone use a criminal act to defend the official 9/11 government conspiracy theory Im bookmarking this fucker.
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