less food = higher state of consciousness

"there is a number out there, a real number... the number of heart beats you get. Most people get the same amount give or take, but the length of their life depends on how fast they beat those heart beats away. faster heart rate, shorter life, slower heart rate, longer life" One of the biggest concert promoters of the 80's and 90's, Dave Williams of Cellar Door, told me the same thing.

This thread turning into a vegan/anti-meat thread in 3..2..1..

Guess I'm on a runaway train

i get what you mean about people that die of starvation. but when all is said and done, beleifs define your reality, thats why people in poor countries die of hunger, because they beleive they will. it was only after reading this forum post, did the whole thing make sense to me

[link to forum.breatharian.info]

Vegetarian and vegan diets are not healthy nor is anything above moderate fasting. The flesh is to be managed, not ignored.

Have you ever been diagnosed with a mental illness?

There is absolutely something to this. Eat light breakfast and lunch and you find you are much more productive through the day. Eat a heavy lunch, and take a nap.

Too much food is hard on the bod.

no because i dont talk to people i know about this sort of stuff

starship troopers

Figuring things out for yourself is the only freedom anyone really has. Use that freedom. Make your own choice, Rico.


matrix revolutions

I know, Morpheus.
I can see you're filled with doubt,
clouded by uncertainty.
After everything that has happened,
how can you expect me to believe you?
I don't.
I expect just what I've always expected:
For you to make up your own damn mind.


peaceful warrior

everyone tells you what to do and whats good for you, they dont want you to find your own answers, they want you to beleive theirs.




I try to read all books on a subject.

You know, try to get all the facts...

...and then decide for myself

the man from earth

i recommend this one, because it has this whole theme imo. maybe im well off with this but the guy in this has discovered a lot of higher knowledge through buddhism and other stuff. and it seems like he knew how to live right so that he no longer aged like everyone else

I don't eat every day anymore, hardly any hot meals, just small healthy snacks. Was just under 11 stone, but back up to 12 stone now. I feel more spiritual, tho' not happier.. as such.. as an occasional hug would lift my spirits up.

nutritional starvation have many cute effects on your brain.....at some point your children become juicy treats.

I see it as a man has two glasses…. a "physical" glass, and a "spiritual" glass. They are inversely related, meaning that when the "physical" glass is full, by default the "spiritual" glass is empty, and vice versa…. thus FASTING helps you to get to a place where you can sense the spiritual in a heightened state. It is biblical, and applies to many religions. Today people do nothing but indulge their flesh… so the western man wouldn't know anything about it… always feeding the flesh…. God says to seek Him and stop living for your carnal desires… food, sex, lust, etc…. Try it out!! and thanks for reminding me too.

I bet those Venezuelans have got to be nearly transcendent by now.

theres no point trying to ridicule here, you wont be able to influence anyone with intelligence

i want a revolution of consciosness, and you are all going to help me

I can see some truth in this.I myself only usually eat once a day with maybe a snack.I eat dinner mainly.No breakfast and no lunch mostly.Breakfast of any kind upsets my stomach.I noticed at an early age that when I eat 3 meals I feel sluggish and wore out.
More than that tho Even when I only eat once a day i sometimes feel that way.Im a Taurus and Im constantly thinking about stuff.I used to worry about everything.I've learned that when i did that I never had any energy no matter what I ate.I would wake up tired.Gor the past few years Ive changed how I react to things Ive always been a mellow easy going type It take a whole lot to get me fired up.But if I do get to that lvl its bad news.So I try to think ahead and about things before I act.This caused alot of over thinking and worry.It would cause low energy and bad headaches.Now that I dont worry as much I have tons of energy and hardly any headaches.

My point to the above is its way more mental than it is physical...

everyone is different and everyone needs different things. because your best friend is a vegan does not mean it would work for you. because your neighbor can drink soda and beer and doesnt look bloated and fat doesnt mean you can follow that route.

through a lot of self-testing i can attest that i found a formula that works really well for me.

funny that today is the end of week one health rebooting for me and i see a couple posts on fasting. i watched the video on the other post about a higher mental clarity from fasting. my personal experience has found this but i only had ideas why; now i can look into medical research a little farther.

what happens with me? well, i drop all food for about two days. i crash pretty hard. i do take in vitamins and minerals, amino acids and fatty acids, but only through supplements. plus, when i do this, it is incremental as i head to day three.

when i get to day three, i find that i can retain information or study something INTENSELY.

day 4: i start adding caloric needs back. maybe three hundred calories for the day. day 5: increase. day 6: increase.

my goal is always the same, increase natural whole foods until i get to my desired fat:carbs:protein amounts. the ratio is also balanced so that i have certain things during certain parts of the day.

so i am a week into my reboot and i can say that a 1g protein per kg of body mass works well with me. as of being 2.5 hrs into my day, i have 50% protein done. most carbs in the form of (sugar) are done and the added sugar is at 15g, well below the ~30g/day recommended. also, i have 35% of my potassium in. considering that the recommended daily amount of potassium is 4800mg... well i like that.

their is a personal science to diet and lifestyle. some people are lucky and just have it. others seem to struggle. i had to learn and experiment. it took a lot of dark days to get to where i am at. but i can say one thing, what i do works, and it shows.

alot of people live very happy lives without ever having to learn what a protein is also

Because Africa is the pinnacle of civilization.

Taking your head out of your butt and looking around and not taking in opinions and studies from the Internet and it's easy to tell you're wrong.

Gluttony ftw.

Unless you're born with a birth defect mutating your genes, we're designed to eat whatever we want whenever we want and the body will assimilate only what it needs and discards the rest.

My body maintains a perfect body weight regardless of diet.

Some people that would do the same as me would have diabetes and be morbidly obese by the time I finish this post.

Best example is looking at nature that aren't exposed to gene mutating human concoctions.

You'll never see a fat bird is what I'm saying. Do birds write a lengthy paper about personal consumption based on scientific knowledge? No. They eat what they want when they want.

Unfortunately the majority of society has shifty genes and no diet or any consideration will help them.

It is. And it is.

... like i said ... everyone is different and has different needs. pretty simple starting statement. here is another, if you are happy and what you are doing works for you, great, but it does not mean that it will work for me.

take one thing: the sun, vitamin d and related health issues. people in the north have a higher deficiency, hence more supplemental or dietary requirement for that.

ever heard of prenatal vitamins? do your birds use those?

science is science and it is why we dont die from an accident at age 25-30 and seem to be living longer and longer.

have a great day.

its about just the right amount of stuff at the right time. intermittent fasting

another way to view it is do you stop and fuel up at the gas station twice before getting home on a single commute?

Jesus fasted in the woods for 40 days so what do you think

i like this comment. it is one of the points i tried to make. but i would say that you may not stop and get gas twice, but you may stop and vacumn, or check the air pressure, or change a tire, or clean the windshield...

I agree with the OP on this thread. For along time I used to schedule my meals. I would eat 2500-3000 calories between the hours of 12 pm to 8pm and then fast until the next 12pm next day. Pretty much a 8 hour window to eat and then 16 hrs of fasting. Felt great doing this.

I would also every couple weeks schedule a 24 hr fast. During these fast I would workout. My workouts during this period were amazing every time. I felt stronger,faster and overall had much more energy.

I suggest everyone, especially those who struggle to lose weight, to take a serious look into Intermittent fasting. It changed my life for the better.

junk food is a lot like smoking. ask any smoker who has quit after 3 or 4 months, if they like smoking when they try again, you hate it and so does the body / mind. its not the same anymore. its exactly the same with junk food and anyione thats fasted for a week or more

Less food = reduced rate of metabolism = lower state of consciousness (zombie syndrome/torpor)