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The Garden of Eden Was More Than Just a Piece of Fruit....UPDATED AGAIN!!!

 
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This is a quotation from the attached web-site...

"Mystery Babylon"

The references to the KJV are theirs...

""
Lets take a look at this verse:

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain...

- Gen. 4:1 (KJV)

To many this is proof positive that Adam had sex with his wife; and wasthe father of Cain. An open-and-shut case... or is it? The word knew, if we examine the original Hebrew, here, does have the meaning of "to have sex with" (which makes it easy to assume that they copulated). However, this word could also mean something totally different!

The word knew actually comes from two Hebrew words: yada and eth.

The word yada not only means to "have carnal sex with," but also "to recognize," "discern," or "acknowledge."[2] The word eth is untranslatable in English, but it generally relates to "a sign," "a distinguishing mark," or an "omen."

From these other meanings, we can reconstruct the English translation of the verse, as it sets, into something such as the following:

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve...
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)

Also, if we look at the Hebrew word for the translated word conceived, here, we see it could also mean "to already be with child." Put them all together... and we gather a whole new possible meaning for this verse:

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve; that she was with child, and realized she was about to give birth to Cain...
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)

Yes, studying the Hebrew, we see this verse could easily take on a whole new meaning! See how easily verses could be mistranslated when the people translating them might assume they should say something a certain way?

Could it really mean that Adam understood what had happened to Eve, here; and that Cain was about to be born?

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve.
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)
""
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3004224


Thanks for posting this. The word 'knew' is pretty much what started me to believe that what Jonathan was teaching here could very well be correct despite my not wanting it to be true.

Could the word 'knew' not mean 'knew' in the biblical sense but instead meant exactly what it really means?

My conclusion was....yep. Because when you add all the pieces together it forms a picture I never saw before. And that picture blew me away. It was so crazy, so absurd and so insane I had to take it seriously. Because much of the Bible is so crazy insane in a way that it makes so much sense. People who read the Bible will know what I mean by this. It's hard to put it into words. So forgive me if this statement offends anyone.

It shows that someone had a sense of humor too.

Who knew that knew really meant knew? To perceive or understand as fact or truth; apprehend clearly and with certainty.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Come now.

I would not have KNOWN what coveting (evil) was except for the law said do not covet.
But sin, taking opportunity if the commandment, PRODUCED IN ME all sorts of coveting
Sin - DECEIVED ME
Before the law came, sin was dead
But when it came, sin sprang to life

I'm afraid that JUST AS EVE WAS THOROUGHLY DECEIVED SO TOO YOUR MINDS MAY BE LED AWAY FROM THE TRUTH AND SIMPLICITY OF CHRIST

KNOWING EVIL - TO HAVE PRODUCED IN YOU ALL SORTS OF EVIL

TO EXPERIENCE IT,

Know.

so next time the papist teaches that thrpugh our "experiences" and "encounters" we can know God, hear that old serpent hissing

GOD IS GOOD ALONE, Alone good
How beit that serpent still hisses that you can be as God "knowing evil" and people still believe it is beyond me.
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This would be the devils fantasy BUT Heavenly Father protected us from this happening. Its true Satan took a third of the host of heaven and they will never get to come down here to Earth and obtain a body thus they are dammed.


Sex with Satan never happened!



Genesis 3:15

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.




Enmity was the the protection for this very thing!



Interesting evil commercial!


burnit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72275485


Through Eve's seed we have Christ who injured the serpents plan. Because of the fall we all needed a Savior or we have to personally pay the price for sin, meaning we get a free ticket or we pay for sin ourselves in the next realm.

The Savior bleed from every pore so we just don't know how painful the purifying process really is. Take up the Saviors offer for repentance then be new. Be full of good works being lead by the Holy Ghost which also purifies us and our lives here!
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This too is garbage beloved. complete garbage except the part of being full of good works. It is NOT how it works. Which fall are you part of beloved? Are you saying your are one of the fallen Lucifer folks? for this is a prison ward for fallen ones of all types. His bleeding from every pore is what people due in extreme fear. It is not about purifying anything. Eve didn't get much seed onto this world by the way. Christ is not from Eve's seed.. I don't understand that comment.

The divine fragment of the Father is what leads you.. not the holy ghost which is a term that needs to be totally removed from use.. its not a ghost.

In actuality most of the lucifer rebellion folks that desire have repented already and the others have been annihilated.

Repentence does not mean I AM SORRY I WON'T FUCK UP AGAIN. It means to start over anew. It means the being reborn of the spirit You ones have been terribly denied the truth.

You are under the correcting time of Christ.. which is the catch up time and the time of overcoming this world and healing it.



the Holy Spirit. 3rd person trinity is the total of the evolving MIND of Nebadon. It is the MOther god so to speak and it does inform life. and has been on this world since life was seeded on it... 550 million years ago.
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All your stuff sounds absolutely fascinating. I mean truly riveting. If I were 9 years old again I might even listen intently to what you have to say.

Thankfully I'm not 9.

So I will ask you politely to refrain from posting here again. It seems to rile up good people and distracts them from finding the truth.

I really don't want to ban anyone. But you would be my very first ban of all time.

So you need to ask yourself one question.

DO I FEEL LUCKY?



I think all I have to do is put you on my personal ban list. Not sure if that's reversible or not. But I guess we can find out.

What say you?
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
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The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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This is a quotation from the attached web-site...

"Mystery Babylon"

The references to the KJV are theirs...

""
Lets take a look at this verse:

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain...

- Gen. 4:1 (KJV)

To many this is proof positive that Adam had sex with his wife; and wasthe father of Cain. An open-and-shut case... or is it? The word knew, if we examine the original Hebrew, here, does have the meaning of "to have sex with" (which makes it easy to assume that they copulated). However, this word could also mean something totally different!

The word knew actually comes from two Hebrew words: yada and eth.

The word yada not only means to "have carnal sex with," but also "to recognize," "discern," or "acknowledge."[2] The word eth is untranslatable in English, but it generally relates to "a sign," "a distinguishing mark," or an "omen."

From these other meanings, we can reconstruct the English translation of the verse, as it sets, into something such as the following:

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve...
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)

Also, if we look at the Hebrew word for the translated word conceived, here, we see it could also mean "to already be with child." Put them all together... and we gather a whole new possible meaning for this verse:

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve; that she was with child, and realized she was about to give birth to Cain...
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)

Yes, studying the Hebrew, we see this verse could easily take on a whole new meaning! See how easily verses could be mistranslated when the people translating them might assume they should say something a certain way?

Could it really mean that Adam understood what had happened to Eve, here; and that Cain was about to be born?

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve.
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)
""
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3004224


Thanks for posting this. The word 'knew' is pretty much what started me to believe that what Jonathan was teaching here could very well be correct despite my not wanting it to be true.

Could the word 'knew' not mean 'knew' in the biblical sense but instead meant exactly what it really means?

My conclusion was....yep. Because when you add all the pieces together it forms a picture I never saw before. And that picture blew me away. It was so crazy, so absurd and so insane I had to take it seriously. Because much of the Bible is so crazy insane in a way that it makes so much sense. People who read the Bible will know what I mean by this. It's hard to put it into words. So forgive me if this statement offends anyone.

It shows that someone had a sense of humor too.

Who knew that knew really meant knew? To perceive or understand as fact or truth; apprehend clearly and with certainty.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Come now.

I would not have KNOWN what coveting (evil) was except for the law said do not covet.
But sin, taking opportunity if the commandment, PRODUCED IN ME all sorts of coveting
Sin - DECEIVED ME
Before the law came, sin was dead
But when it came, sin sprang to life

I'm afraid that JUST AS EVE WAS THOROUGHLY DECEIVED SO TOO YOUR MINDS MAY BE LED AWAY FROM THE TRUTH AND SIMPLICITY OF CHRIST

KNOWING EVIL - TO HAVE PRODUCED IN YOU ALL SORTS OF EVIL

TO EXPERIENCE IT,

Know.

so next time the papist teaches that thrpugh our "experiences" and "encounters" we can know God, hear that old serpent hissing

GOD IS GOOD ALONE, Alone good
How beit that serpent still hisses that you can be as God "knowing evil" and people still believe it is beyond me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72283281


Your blindness becomes you.

Research the word 'covet' and maybe you'll learn something.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced a bill that would criminalize anti-transgender speech, with violators receiving up to two years in prison. In 2013, the Canadian Supreme Court upheld the conviction of a Christian street preacher who was distributing leaflets denouncing homosexual acts. The court held that the man had used “vilifying and derogatory representations to create a tone of hatred” against gay people, the Legal Examiner reported at the time. The court determined that the pastor’s behavior constituted ”hate propaganda” and that his religious beliefs did not excuse him from violating the law.

Less than 50% from link:

[link to www.theblaze.com]
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Adam and EVE cam from a place where the sun never set
and they thought they SUN was GOD



now what does that tell you?


it was NOT earth
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did it have glorious pink skies and calm oceans of cerulean blue and azure? Did they sand surf on the desert ?
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The Sands of Time:)
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Let's sell some cars!



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


So we know it's not about selling cars or perfume at all. It's just THEM doing what they always do.

Shove it in our faces and laugh.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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The metaphor of Cain (cane) and Abel (able). The "brothers" as 2 parts of 1 Self.

Ego/Hate versus Logic/Love
Lies versus Truth
Density versus Subtlety
Evil versus Righteous

"Do not be like Cain (of the ego), who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother’s were righteous."

The ego destroyed, over powered, The Truth. God made Cain grow a horn (ONE horn) on his head. His slaying is 7 fold 'vengeance' (must travel all physical paths of lessons - starting back at 1 again). 2 horns is NOT Satan, devil, evil. There's a horn that toots ego and a horn that blows truth. She, the Serpent, is the deliverer of The Truth. The She of the 2 part he/she is not the whore or anti-christ.

The 7 spiral 'paths' to Truth:

[link to imgur.com]

The 'Illuminati' think they know, guard & hoard The Truth; however, their interpretation & understanding is ego/fear based. THE Truth of Maat is protected by the veil of Isis, the guardian. The Truth, hidden in myth & symbols, is only blocked by FEAR.

goodevil
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Thank you for your input to this thread. We are told in the bible that Jesus is the only way. I must take him at his word. My choice.


hf
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Absolutely your choice! I personally choose to recognize the Father AND the Mother. Like spiral fingerprints & puzzle pieces, everyone has their own story and version of The Whole Truth. I won't deny you yours. We're all led back to the same ONE.

peace
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The words you use are precisely the same I have used. I have read a couple of your posts and we think in the same vernacular. Namaste'
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Namaste! Ones who label others as blind or ignorant are deeming themselves as All knowing, not knowing they are judging illusory, fractal parts of their Self. To each his, and her, own.

peace
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Sands of Time- 8/5/15

The sands of time are sinking, the dawn of heaven breaks;
The summer morn I’ve sighed for—the fair, sweet morn awakes.

Dark, dark hath been the midnight, but day-spring is at hand,
And glory, glory dwelleth in Immanuel’s land.

O Christ, He is the fountain, the deep, sweet well of love!

The streams on earth I’ve tasted more deep I’ll drink above:

There to an ocean fulness His mercy doth expand,
And glory, glory dwelleth in Immanuel’s land.

O I am my Beloved’s, and my Beloved’s mine!
He brings a poor vile sinner into His “house of wine.”
I stand upon His merit—I know no other stand,
Not e’en where glory dwelleth in Immanuel’s land.

The Bride eyes not her garment but her dear Bridegroom’s face;
I will not gaze at glory but on my King of grace,

Not at the crown He giveth but on His pierced hand:
The Lamb is all the glory of Immanuel’s land.

Scottish poet and writer Anne Ross Cousin compiled many of Rutherford’s thoughts and penned this great hymn.
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Thank you for your input to this thread. We are told in the bible that Jesus is the only way. I must take him at his word. My choice.


hf
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Absolutely your choice! I personally choose to recognize the Father AND the Mother. Like spiral fingerprints & puzzle pieces, everyone has their own story and version of The Whole Truth. I won't deny you yours. We're all led back to the same ONE.

peace
 Quoting: Pavana


The words you use are precisely the same I have used. I have read a couple of your posts and we think in the same vernacular. Namaste'
 Quoting: Cena 72055655


Namaste! Ones who label others as blind or ignorant are deeming themselves as All knowing, not knowing they are judging illusory, fractal parts of their Self. To each his, and her, own.

peace
 Quoting: Pavana


Sometimes I wish that were true. But there can be only one truth. Something is either true or it is false.

Jesus is the person you speak of. The one who said some people were blind.

And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also? Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth. - John 9:39-41
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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The wedding garment is being naked and unashamed as in the beginning.
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I guess the porn stars are all set and ready to go to the wedding banquet then.
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Actually I already gave you green,
and will leave your thread as you wish.

hf
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Your attacks are one after the other. You have a strange way of showing friendliness.

If you have trouble with my thread I suggest you take it up with the maker of the video. I've given you what proof I can with the time constraints I'm working with. It's more than enough proof for me. I will not stay bound to the false teachings taught in most church buildings. If they taught the truth they would be out of business long ago. There's not a lot of money in the truth.

Ask anyone in the main stream churches about this teaching and every one of them will call it heresy. Every one of them.

That just reinforces my belief.

hf
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I apologize if there is a zeal,
but the word of truth is oft misrepresented and
as I mentioned previously, what the video exposes is true but the conclusions are false that Adam/ Eve had sex with the serpent,
producing offspring.
This is a part of the ZioSataMasonic ideology that is the reason the "church" as the world is in this present state.
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Actually I already gave you green,
and will leave your thread as you wish.

hf
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Your attacks are one after the other. You have a strange way of showing friendliness.

If you have trouble with my thread I suggest you take it up with the maker of the video. I've given you what proof I can with the time constraints I'm working with. It's more than enough proof for me. I will not stay bound to the false teachings taught in most church buildings. If they taught the truth they would be out of business long ago. There's not a lot of money in the truth.

Ask anyone in the main stream churches about this teaching and every one of them will call it heresy. Every one of them.

That just reinforces my belief.

hf
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I apologize if there is a zeal,
but the word of truth is oft misrepresented and
as I mentioned previously, what the video exposes is true but the conclusions are false that Adam/ Eve had sex with the serpent,
producing offspring.
This is a part of the ZioSataMasonic ideology that is the reason the "church" as the world is in this present state.
 Quoting: M1.618


Since the video was released in Nov 2014 it's just as likely that the makers of the video were reading glp and the woman who was a proponent of this gnostic view.
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The wedding garment is being naked and unashamed as in the beginning.
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I guess the porn stars are all set and ready to go to the wedding banquet then.
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naked of the garment of the fallen world and dead to the flesh, reborn to the Spirit.

I never even once watched porn my whole life.
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God gives you a white robe.
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Actually I already gave you green,
and will leave your thread as you wish.

hf
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Your attacks are one after the other. You have a strange way of showing friendliness.

If you have trouble with my thread I suggest you take it up with the maker of the video. I've given you what proof I can with the time constraints I'm working with. It's more than enough proof for me. I will not stay bound to the false teachings taught in most church buildings. If they taught the truth they would be out of business long ago. There's not a lot of money in the truth.

Ask anyone in the main stream churches about this teaching and every one of them will call it heresy. Every one of them.

That just reinforces my belief.

hf
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


I apologize if there is a zeal,
but the word of truth is oft misrepresented and
as I mentioned previously, what the video exposes is true but the conclusions are false that Adam/ Eve had sex with the serpent,
producing offspring.
This is a part of the ZioSataMasonic ideology that is the reason the "church" as the world is in this present state.
 Quoting: M1.618


I respectfully disagree with your conclusions. The world we live in was not how it is supposed to be. Not even close. We're not supposed to even be here. I doubt, very highly, that God meant for us to drive around in cars to go to corporate headquarters and chase dollars so we could go on cruises.

The Vatican is the royal abode of the serpent. There's no doubt about that. All of Christendom has been deceived by the Vatican. They might as well name their telescope L.U.C.I.F.E.R.

Oh wait...that's right...they already did.

Mother Goddess worship is the problem. Their is no gender in heaven.

The Vatican knows the truth and they hide it right in front of us.

The devil's in the details.

[link to lonelypilgrim.com]
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Actually I already gave you green,
and will leave your thread as you wish.

hf
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Your attacks are one after the other. You have a strange way of showing friendliness.

If you have trouble with my thread I suggest you take it up with the maker of the video. I've given you what proof I can with the time constraints I'm working with. It's more than enough proof for me. I will not stay bound to the false teachings taught in most church buildings. If they taught the truth they would be out of business long ago. There's not a lot of money in the truth.

Ask anyone in the main stream churches about this teaching and every one of them will call it heresy. Every one of them.

That just reinforces my belief.

hf
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


I apologize if there is a zeal,
but the word of truth is oft misrepresented and
as I mentioned previously, what the video exposes is true but the conclusions are false that Adam/ Eve had sex with the serpent,
producing offspring.
This is a part of the ZioSataMasonic ideology that is the reason the "church" as the world is in this present state.
 Quoting: M1.618


Also the "serpent" wasn't truly a serpent. It was...it was...



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Government...
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Ment: MIND
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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This too is garbage beloved. complete garbage except the part of being full of good works. It is NOT how it works. Which fall are you part of beloved? Are you saying your are one of the fallen Lucifer folks? for this is a prison ward for fallen ones of all types. His bleeding from every pore is what people due in extreme fear. It is not about purifying anything. Eve didn't get much seed onto this world by the way. Christ is not from Eve's seed.. I don't understand that comment.

the Holy Spirit. 3rd person trinity is the total of the evolving MIND of Nebadon. It is the MOther god so to speak and it does inform life. and has been on this world since life was seeded on it... 550 million years ago.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21295584


of course you don't understand any of it, you work for satan pushing craprantia book lies and filth.
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Baloney,

The dark energy of your daily stalking of those on their spiritual path will come back to you in abundance.

You remnants of dark forces who DAILY interfere with Light Workers will be taken from the earth and sent to a planet that has been prepared for them to continue 3rd dimensional environment when Mother Gaia undergoes her ascension.

Its not too late to change, but it appears you like being dark and evil - free will abounds

Bye Bye Baloney
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anyone who thinks kleck is a true believer, better get to examining themselves real quick, because they are following a deceiver

I did not know much about him, did some research and

anyone who can't see he is a deceiver has probably already been given over to strong delusions

the emblem on his youtube site is pharoah Akhenaten

he claims he was a bene ha elohiym, and Michael led him to salvation by saying a prayer

making him a prophet, because it is better to be led to the LORD by Michael than being saved by just anybody (sarcasm)

The one he mocks YESHUA

the One who will tell him, I never knew you

bene ha elohiym, fallen angels, he has Akhenaten as his emblem

You all will fall for anything

BECAUSE you are not grounded in the Truth, living in the futility of your own imaginations

Your Righteousness is an Everlasting Righteousness and Thy Torah is the Truth

His people perish for lack of knowledge, because the reject TRUTH

most of you are already in strong strong delusion

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Re: The Garden of Eden Was More Than Just a Piece of Fruit....UPDATED AGAIN!!!
anyone who thinks kleck is a true believer, better get to examining themselves real quick, because they are following a deceiver

I did not know much about him, did some research and

anyone who can't see he is a deceiver has probably already been given over to strong delusions

the emblem on his youtube site is pharoah Akhenaten

he claims he was a bene ha elohiym, and Michael led him to salvation by saying a prayer

making him a prophet, because it is better to be led to the LORD by Michael than being saved by just anybody (sarcasm)

The one he mocks YESHUA

Mainly the one who will tell him, I NEVER KNEW YOU

bene ha elohiym, fallen angels, he has Akhenaten as his emblem

You all will fall for anything

BECAUSE you are not grounded in the Truth, living in the futility of your own imaginations

Thy Torah is the Truth
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Ummmm.... No.

Your research is flawed and incomplete. Thanks for muddying up a good person with your slime.

Akhenaten was his first decode. Anyone with half a brian can find this out.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Actually I already gave you green,
and will leave your thread as you wish.

hf
 Quoting: M1.618


Your attacks are one after the other. You have a strange way of showing friendliness.

If you have trouble with my thread I suggest you take it up with the maker of the video. I've given you what proof I can with the time constraints I'm working with. It's more than enough proof for me. I will not stay bound to the false teachings taught in most church buildings. If they taught the truth they would be out of business long ago. There's not a lot of money in the truth.

Ask anyone in the main stream churches about this teaching and every one of them will call it heresy. Every one of them.

That just reinforces my belief.

hf
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


I apologize if there is a zeal,
but the word of truth is oft misrepresented and
as I mentioned previously, what the video exposes is true but the conclusions are false that Adam/ Eve had sex with the serpent,
producing offspring.
This is a part of the ZioSataMasonic ideology that is the reason the "church" as the world is in this present state.
 Quoting: M1.618


Also the "serpent" wasn't truly a serpent. It was...it was...



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


I like to call it the adversary and dragons in much human lore were called serpents.

Interesting how the "serpent" previous to the fall enjoyed a locamotion other than crawling on its belly & many peoples worshiped/ worship a winged serpent.
wmMmw
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Your attacks are one after the other. You have a strange way of showing friendliness.

If you have trouble with my thread I suggest you take it up with the maker of the video. I've given you what proof I can with the time constraints I'm working with. It's more than enough proof for me. I will not stay bound to the false teachings taught in most church buildings. If they taught the truth they would be out of business long ago. There's not a lot of money in the truth.

Ask anyone in the main stream churches about this teaching and every one of them will call it heresy. Every one of them.

That just reinforces my belief.

hf
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


I apologize if there is a zeal,
but the word of truth is oft misrepresented and
as I mentioned previously, what the video exposes is true but the conclusions are false that Adam/ Eve had sex with the serpent,
producing offspring.
This is a part of the ZioSataMasonic ideology that is the reason the "church" as the world is in this present state.
 Quoting: M1.618


Also the "serpent" wasn't truly a serpent. It was...it was...



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


I like to call it the adversary and dragons in much human lore were called serpents.

Interesting how the "serpent" previous to the fall enjoyed a locamotion other than crawling on its belly & many peoples worshiped/ worship a winged serpent.
 Quoting: M1.618


Reptilian. A beautiful, shining whisperer.

Yes interesting. Vesica Picses is the prison that they worship. The womb. Mother Goddess. ISIS. Columbia.

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Government...
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Ment: MIND
CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL

The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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This is a quotation from the attached web-site...

"Mystery Babylon"

The references to the KJV are theirs...

""
Lets take a look at this verse:

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain...

- Gen. 4:1 (KJV)

To many this is proof positive that Adam had sex with his wife; and wasthe father of Cain. An open-and-shut case... or is it? The word knew, if we examine the original Hebrew, here, does have the meaning of "to have sex with" (which makes it easy to assume that they copulated). However, this word could also mean something totally different!

The word knew actually comes from two Hebrew words: yada and eth.

The word yada not only means to "have carnal sex with," but also "to recognize," "discern," or "acknowledge."[2] The word eth is untranslatable in English, but it generally relates to "a sign," "a distinguishing mark," or an "omen."

From these other meanings, we can reconstruct the English translation of the verse, as it sets, into something such as the following:

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve...
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)

Also, if we look at the Hebrew word for the translated word conceived, here, we see it could also mean "to already be with child." Put them all together... and we gather a whole new possible meaning for this verse:

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve; that she was with child, and realized she was about to give birth to Cain...
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)

Yes, studying the Hebrew, we see this verse could easily take on a whole new meaning! See how easily verses could be mistranslated when the people translating them might assume they should say something a certain way?

Could it really mean that Adam understood what had happened to Eve, here; and that Cain was about to be born?

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve.
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)
""
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3004224


Thanks for posting this. The word 'knew' is pretty much what started me to believe that what Jonathan was teaching here could very well be correct despite my not wanting it to be true.

Could the word 'knew' not mean 'knew' in the biblical sense but instead meant exactly what it really means?

My conclusion was....yep. Because when you add all the pieces together it forms a picture I never saw before. And that picture blew me away. It was so crazy, so absurd and so insane I had to take it seriously. Because much of the Bible is so crazy insane in a way that it makes so much sense. People who read the Bible will know what I mean by this. It's hard to put it into words. So forgive me if this statement offends anyone.

It shows that someone had a sense of humor too.

Who knew that knew really meant knew? To perceive or understand as fact or truth; apprehend clearly and with certainty.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Bear in mind that most of the time the translators and interpreters may have an agenda...

Satan certainly has one, and it allegedly manifests as an "Angel of Light".

If Satan has access to the mind of the interpreter it could certainly color the translation in favor of itself, and it probably has?
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They love them some Vesica Pisces...

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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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This is a quotation from the attached web-site...

"Mystery Babylon"

The references to the KJV are theirs...

""
Lets take a look at this verse:

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain...

- Gen. 4:1 (KJV)

To many this is proof positive that Adam had sex with his wife; and wasthe father of Cain. An open-and-shut case... or is it? The word knew, if we examine the original Hebrew, here, does have the meaning of "to have sex with" (which makes it easy to assume that they copulated). However, this word could also mean something totally different!

The word knew actually comes from two Hebrew words: yada and eth.

The word yada not only means to "have carnal sex with," but also "to recognize," "discern," or "acknowledge."[2] The word eth is untranslatable in English, but it generally relates to "a sign," "a distinguishing mark," or an "omen."

From these other meanings, we can reconstruct the English translation of the verse, as it sets, into something such as the following:

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve...
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)

Also, if we look at the Hebrew word for the translated word conceived, here, we see it could also mean "to already be with child." Put them all together... and we gather a whole new possible meaning for this verse:

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve; that she was with child, and realized she was about to give birth to Cain...
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)

Yes, studying the Hebrew, we see this verse could easily take on a whole new meaning! See how easily verses could be mistranslated when the people translating them might assume they should say something a certain way?

Could it really mean that Adam understood what had happened to Eve, here; and that Cain was about to be born?

And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve.
- Gen. 4:1 (in retranslation)
""
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3004224


Thanks for posting this. The word 'knew' is pretty much what started me to believe that what Jonathan was teaching here could very well be correct despite my not wanting it to be true.

Could the word 'knew' not mean 'knew' in the biblical sense but instead meant exactly what it really means?

My conclusion was....yep. Because when you add all the pieces together it forms a picture I never saw before. And that picture blew me away. It was so crazy, so absurd and so insane I had to take it seriously. Because much of the Bible is so crazy insane in a way that it makes so much sense. People who read the Bible will know what I mean by this. It's hard to put it into words. So forgive me if this statement offends anyone.

It shows that someone had a sense of humor too.

Who knew that knew really meant knew? To perceive or understand as fact or truth; apprehend clearly and with certainty.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Bear in mind that most of the time the translators and interpreters may have an agenda...

Satan certainly has one, and it allegedly manifests as an "Angel of Light".

If Satan has access to the mind of the interpreter it could certainly color the translation in favor of itself, and it probably has?
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1565897


Always use prayerful discernment. Always.
Government...
Govern: CONTROL
Ment: MIND
CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL

The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Discern this!!

4 Four parallel verses

Done His Way

1) The Verse

2) Each Verse has a Numeric Total in the original language
this verse is the Total of the First

3) The duration portion has a total within the total, that is the third verse

The Alpha-Numeric symmetry UNDENIABLE

1260+1290 ~ 2550


1) Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away(, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Total 4486

2) The 4,486th vs. Num 25:14 Now the name of the Israelite that was slain, even that was slain with the Midianitish woman, was Zimri, the son of Salu, a prince of a chief house among the Simeonites.

3) 1290 days) thousand 111 two hundred 491 and ninety 826 days 100 = 1528th vs. Gen 50:21 Now therefore fear ye not: I will nourish you, and your little ones. And he comforted them, and spake kindly unto them.

1) Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. = 11428

2) The 11,428th vs. 2Ch 11:13 And the priests and the Levites that were in all Israel resorted to him out of all their coasts.

3) 1260 days) thousand 851 two hundred 516 sixty 514 days 354 = 2235th vs. Exo 25:39 Of a talent of pure gold shall he make it, with all these vessels.

1) Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. = 17897

2) The 17,897th vs. Isaiah 11:12 And He shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

3) time-s) time 251 and 31 times 801 and 31 half 658 time 601 = 2373rd vs. Exo 29:36 And thou shalt offer every day a bullock for a sin offering for atonement: and thou shalt cleanse the altar, when thou hast made an atonement for it, and thou shalt anoint it, to sanctify it.

1) Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. Total 8717

2) The 8,717th vs. 2Sa 24:24 And the king said unto Araunah, Nay; but I will surely buy it of thee at a price: neither will I offer burnt offerings unto YHWH my God of that which doth cost me nothing. So David bought the threshingfloor and the oxen for fifty shekels of silver.

3) 42 months) forty 1248 two 474 months 299 = 2021st vs. Exo 18:21 Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:

Search by verse number original totals by verse and word

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Reptilian. A beautiful, shining whisperer.

Yes interesting. Vesica Picses is the prison that they worship. The womb. Mother Goddess. ISIS. Columbia.

[link to oi68.tinypic.com]

[link to www.ancient.eu]

[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]

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The light bearer.
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Speaking of...

Versace's earlier commercial for their Bright Crystal perfume.




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Reptilian. A beautiful, shining whisperer.

Yes interesting. Vesica Picses is the prison that they worship. The womb. Mother Goddess. ISIS. Columbia.

[link to oi68.tinypic.com]

[link to www.ancient.eu]

[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]

[link to vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net]

The light bearer.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™



Speaking of...

Versace's earlier commercial for their Bright Crystal perfume.




chuckle
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Speaking of the light bearer...

chuckle
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Reptilian. A beautiful, shining whisperer.

Yes interesting. Vesica Picses is the prison that they worship. The womb. Mother Goddess. ISIS. Columbia.

[link to oi68.tinypic.com]

[link to www.ancient.eu]

[link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)]

[link to vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net]

The light bearer.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™



Speaking of...

Versace's earlier commercial for their Bright Crystal perfume.




chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34851405


Speaking of the light bearer...

chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34851405


And look at what happens to this gal's eyes after she puts it on:



They're really into spiritual possession.
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And look at what happens to this gal's eyes after she puts it on:



They're really into spiritual possession.
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And actually, her necklace suddenly looks like a serpent when she spritzes the perfume on her neck.

Versace is seriously creepy, creepy.





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