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The Garden of Eden Was More Than Just a Piece of Fruit....UPDATED AGAIN!!!

 
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I read the verse again.

This is Heavenly Father's protection.

Genesis 3:15

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.





hf
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Her Seed (Christ) will bruise the serpent’s head


hf
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if I was a god, I would say no more bruising or curses are ever needed anymore, everyone is forgiven, and let's let bygones be bygones. That's why I know Yahweh is bad. He doesn't forgive but wants us to. He has this law and these stories and these traditions, and too many have suffered and died over them. Enough. Why can't people think for themselves about what is kind and true and right? Why do they need to be slaves to a judgemental demanding alien that masquerades as a deity?
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You think with the worldly thoughts of the flesh. You ignore your reality for a few physical comforts.

The spirit wrestles with the flesh. That's our dilemma. Choosing the worldly was of the flesh, which dies, over the godly ways of the spirit.

The world is upside down.
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I nominate this for the most retarded post on glp today. I would also like to add that the garden of eden is fictional, just like your whole storybook.
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So let me see if I have this right...

Eve had sex with the serpent and got pregnant with Cain...then had sex with Adam and got pregnant with Abel. (Two babies born in separate sacs in pregnancy).

Cain's bloodline is the serpents bloodline, which then would become the royal bloodline and the 'kings and queens' or rulers (presidents as well) of the earth.

Since Cain killed Abel (the bloodline of Adam), Eve became pregnant again with Seth in order that a pure bloodline of God would continue through the generations as well as Cain's bloodline.

So, to me, that means there are two bloodlines that have been running in all of us...we just don't know which one we are.

It would make sense then, that because there are many with Cain's bloodline, our Father, in order to save as many as possible, sent His Son, who died and gave HIS blood so that as many that called on His name would be saved.

I know in the Bible it says that our Father doesn't want anyone to go to Hell and so provided a way that all people have to do is call on His name.

That's why there will be so many people saved 'in the last days'....

As a parent, I know I would do whatever it takes to save my child in any situation...and that 'unconditional' love comes from our Father...

Jmho....

hf
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Winner, winner! Chicken Dinner!

Finally

Thank you.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


More like:

Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire!!!

Study it out and quit promoting demented teachings.

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i love his videos
he's got an eagle eye
good watchman
 Quoting: Salt


No Eve did not have sex with the serpent,

that is not biblical or makes any sense

(that she did is what the serpent wishes you to believe)

The video is bs and that dude is no watchman just a drama queen who should read the word and pray for understanding so he does not continue to sow confusion.
 Quoting: M1.618


It's the only thing that makes any sense at all. It's 100% biblical.

Time to wake up to this reality.

Prove the drama queen wrong. Let's see you scriptural rebuttal.
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The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Genesis 4

1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.


^ right there plain as day.


Rather than delight in truth people seek delusion.
 Quoting: M1.618


LOL!

Read the thread and quit being so lazy.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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From the Pentateuchal Targumim. Which is older than our King James by far....

And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the Angel of the Lord. And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, even Habel. - Genesis 4:1

Cain and Abel were fraternal twins.

Cain from the seed of the angel and Able from the seed of Adam.

They grew together in Eve's womb. Thus our circumstance today.

If you look around I think Cain's DNA is winning.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


And what made Adam and Eve sin to begin with? They had none of this serpent DNA. You have to dredge up obscure Apocrypha that contradicts the received text in order to make your case.

If we listen to you, then soon we will be throwing out the entire Scripture.

You are a servant of the devil.

Just admit what you are.

Are you OTO? Freemason? Angry trans? Wiccan?

what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71278124


Eve was beguiled (seduced)

She "touched" (which means to lay with) the "fruit".

Your stumbling at the Logos and name calling reveals that you are more likely to be a Freemason Luciferian than me.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Can you explain what Adam had to do with the "fruit"? She gave the "fruit" to Adam and he took it. So...does than mean that he also "lay" with the "fruit"?

I'm not trying to be rude...just trying to figure how it might have happened.
Thanks!
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From the Pentateuchal Targumim. Which is older than our King James by far....

And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the Angel of the Lord. And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, even Habel. - Genesis 4:1

Cain and Abel were fraternal twins.

Cain from the seed of the angel and Able from the seed of Adam.

They grew together in Eve's womb. Thus our circumstance today.

If you look around I think Cain's DNA is winning.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™




^ You mean the Babylonian Targum a "translation" of parts of the word such as the Talmud is.


Honestly OP???

Is this something you are unaware not doing the research or just misleading others.

Please defend your position?

Older than king James ? Who cares? If something is bs it's bs.


Beware the leaven.
wmMmw
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So let me see if I have this right...

Eve had sex with the serpent and got pregnant with Cain...then had sex with Adam and got pregnant with Abel. (Two babies born in separate sacs in pregnancy).

Cain's bloodline is the serpents bloodline, which then would become the royal bloodline and the 'kings and queens' or rulers (presidents as well) of the earth.

Since Cain killed Abel (the bloodline of Adam), Eve became pregnant again with Seth in order that a pure bloodline of God would continue through the generations as well as Cain's bloodline.

So, to me, that means there are two bloodlines that have been running in all of us...we just don't know which one we are.

It would make sense then, that because there are many with Cain's bloodline, our Father, in order to save as many as possible, sent His Son, who died and gave HIS blood so that as many that called on His name would be saved.

I know in the Bible it says that our Father doesn't want anyone to go to Hell and so provided a way that all people have to do is call on His name.

That's why there will be so many people saved 'in the last days'....

As a parent, I know I would do whatever it takes to save my child in any situation...and that 'unconditional' love comes from our Father...

Jmho....

hf
 Quoting: Daddysgirl


Winner, winner! Chicken Dinner!

Finally

Thank you.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


More like:

Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire!!!

Study it out and quit promoting demented teachings.

[link to stevenmcollins.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15863909


Racial hatred? You call it "serpent seed doctrine" You label it as racist heresy when it has nothing to do with race. The "serpent seed doctrine" is not what is being shown here. This is not 1869. That doctrine is heresy but this teaching is not the same as you are claiming.

How can it have anything to do with race if everyone is infected with Satan's genetic makeup?

You people really love to mucky up the water.

I'm dealing with ignorance at every level.
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Genesis 4

1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.


^ right there plain as day.


Rather than delight in truth people seek delusion.
 Quoting: M1.618


LOL!

Read the thread and quit being so lazy.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


I did and am not lazy,

but have little time to invest into wilingful stupidity and am only here as this is causing much confusion.


lol
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From the Pentateuchal Targumim. Which is older than our King James by far....

And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the Angel of the Lord. And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, even Habel. - Genesis 4:1

Cain and Abel were fraternal twins.

Cain from the seed of the angel and Able from the seed of Adam.

They grew together in Eve's womb. Thus our circumstance today.

If you look around I think Cain's DNA is winning.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™




^ You mean the Babylonian Targum a "translation" of parts of the word such as the Talmud is.


Honestly OP???

Is this something you are unaware not doing the research or just misleading others.

Please defend your position?

Older than king James ? Who cares? If something is bs it's bs.


Beware the leaven.
 Quoting: M1.618


It's in the KVJ as well but you'll need to get out your Strong's Concordance to reveal it.

Surprised you don't already know this.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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It is said that Lilith was Adam's first wife. Where did she come from?
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From the Pentateuchal Targumim. Which is older than our King James by far....

And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the Angel of the Lord. And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, even Habel. - Genesis 4:1

Cain and Abel were fraternal twins.

Cain from the seed of the angel and Able from the seed of Adam.

They grew together in Eve's womb. Thus our circumstance today.

If you look around I think Cain's DNA is winning.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™




^ You mean the Babylonian Targum a "translation" of parts of the word such as the Talmud is.


Honestly OP???

Is this something you are unaware not doing the research or just misleading others.

Please defend your position?

Older than king James ? Who cares? If something is bs it's bs.


Beware the leaven.
 Quoting: M1.618


It's in the KVJ as well but you'll need to get out your Strong's Concordance to reveal it.

Surprised you don't already know this.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


It is not but even so I will revisit.

Tell me why you beleive it to be so beyond personal opinion supported by questionable sources.
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It is said that Lilith was Adam's first wife. Where did she come from?
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She didn't.......cause she didn't exist. It's a myth.
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i love his videos
he's got an eagle eye
good watchman
 Quoting: Salt


No Eve did not have sex with the serpent,

that is not biblical or makes any sense

(that she did is what the serpent wishes you to believe)

The video is bs and that dude is no watchman just a drama queen who should read the word and pray for understanding so he does not continue to sow confusion.
 Quoting: M1.618


Yep.

Some people need to read their bibles:

Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
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From the Pentateuchal Targumim. Which is older than our King James by far....

And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the Angel of the Lord. And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, even Habel. - Genesis 4:1

Cain and Abel were fraternal twins.

Cain from the seed of the angel and Able from the seed of Adam.

They grew together in Eve's womb. Thus our circumstance today.

If you look around I think Cain's DNA is winning.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


And what made Adam and Eve sin to begin with? They had none of this serpent DNA. You have to dredge up obscure Apocrypha that contradicts the received text in order to make your case.

If we listen to you, then soon we will be throwing out the entire Scripture.

You are a servant of the devil.

Just admit what you are.

Are you OTO? Freemason? Angry trans? Wiccan?

what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71278124


Eve was beguiled (seduced)

She "touched" (which means to lay with) the "fruit".

Your stumbling at the Logos and name calling reveals that you are more likely to be a Freemason Luciferian than me.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Can you explain what Adam had to do with the "fruit"? She gave the "fruit" to Adam and he took it. So...does than mean that he also "lay" with the "fruit"?

I'm not trying to be rude...just trying to figure how it might have happened.
Thanks!
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So you're asking me how Adam "partook" in the "fruit"?

Let me see...

I have defined the year of 2016 as "The Year of the Toilet".

This ridiculous controversy over who gets to use what toilet has been brought to the fore by our wondrous gay President and his tranny wife. After a hundred years of using separate facilities this has been pushed into our faces as being important and something we must discuss.

We are now told that it is right to allow males into female bathrooms and vice versa. It all depends on how they "feel" at the time. Right has become wrong and wrong has become right. Good is bad and bad is good.

I don't know how Adam sinned for sure. There's no mention of it like there is with Eve. But I can guess given how the end is like the beginning and make no mistake...we are at the end.

Two gay men in the White House brings us to the end.

GayRainbowHouse
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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i love his videos
he's got an eagle eye
good watchman
 Quoting: Salt


No Eve did not have sex with the serpent,

that is not biblical or makes any sense

(that she did is what the serpent wishes you to believe)

The video is bs and that dude is no watchman just a drama queen who should read the word and pray for understanding so he does not continue to sow confusion.
 Quoting: M1.618


Yep.

Some people need to read their bibles:

Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15863909


Some people need to get their concordances out and study what they're reading.

Yep.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Show us how translating it through Strongs changes the meaning from the King James, prove what you say rather than providing more of your opinions.

It's a simple thing that can prove what you say is true as

if it is not and you are not willing to provide evidence.

One might consider you a shill.


As you would another, in truth.
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That is the problem with a lot of so called christian types.

They cannot get their heads around the fact that truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

Here even after the OP has clearly stated his case after a simple truth being pointed out the so called christians throw a hissy fit.

If they have trouble with a simple verse of scripture explaining what actually went down way back then to cause the fall of man imagine the problems they have with the Book of Enoch.

This really is a correct concept, most people cannot handle the truth.
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It is said that Lilith was Adam's first wife. Where did she come from?
 Quoting: Loup Garou


She didn't.......cause she didn't exist. It's a myth.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


This is an interesting take too. I have often thought that Adam and Eve began on another plane of existence.

People don't want to believe that the Word is still all there but that Satan has "fiddled" with it over thousands of years so we must seek the truth on our own.

The Word is still there. But it takes some work to find it now.

The Lilith character seems to have been injected into the story somehow. They love to muddy the water with their injections into our reality.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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That is the problem with a lot of so called christian types.

They cannot get their heads around the fact that truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

Here even after the OP has clearly stated his case after a simple truth being pointed out the so called christians throw a hissy fit.

If they have trouble with a simple verse of scripture explaining what actually went down way back then to cause the fall of man imagine the problems they have with the Book of Enoch.

This really is a correct concept, most people cannot handle the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66797471


How so?

Provide some evidence or help OP answer my questions if you are more than but hot air.

and have you even read the book of Enoch and if so what translation, version?

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Not everyone has spoiled DNA. If it were so no one will survive. Every tree my father didn't plant will be rutted up and burned. He didn't plant the seed of Cain. The devil did. God started over once before that we know of. Noah was saved because he was pure in his generations ie.. race.
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The flesh profits nothing. Jesus instructed us to go make disciples of all nations.
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Penis crystal.
 Quoting: The Comedian :D


Crystal penis



Phallus symbol

Vesica Pisces

Obelisks

Serpent skin

Dragons at the cathedral

The Vatican is shaped like a pregnant snake.


Words have meanings.

Basilica from basilisk: Royal abode of the serpent.

Serpent: From the word Hiss. To whisper.

At St Peters Basilica you'll find two dragon statues there. You'll also see an Obelisk, the phallus of the dragon, carved out of stone.

The Basilica dome is symbolic of pregnancy.

You can't make this stuff up.
Government...
Govern: CONTROL
Ment: MIND
CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL

The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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So what exactly would constitute a grievous enough sin to get tossed out of Eden and the presence of God?

Eating an apple?
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Show us how translating it through Strongs changes the meaning from the King James, prove what you say rather than providing more of your opinions.

It's a simple thing that can prove what you say is true as

if it is not and you are not willing to provide evidence.

One might consider you a shill.


As you would another, in truth.
 Quoting: M1.618


I can't find it so please help me to as

1 it does not exist and you are speaking in ignorance.

2 it does but I am unable to find it.



So please OP as averyone else back up your words in truth,

are you not held accountable,

what about you Salt? Do you not identify yourself as a minister?
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You are helping them demonize the Holy Spirit...sigh
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Can you explain a bit more? I'm absolutely flabbergasted by that ad. I can't believe they would do it myself.
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I don't believe the garden of eden was here on earth, it was in the spiritual realm, paradise.
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It was both. The physical mimics the spiritual. What we build, do, say, think & read are personal variation copies of the one truth. One of the then 'controllers' offered these beings an earth paradise in an attempt to keep them from the truth, to keep control.

However, the spiritual desire cannot be controlled & blocked by others... if you don't allow it, if you see through it. She, through her inner yearnings of truth; sought, and ate, the fruit of truth regardless. It denied them their 'fake' wannabe heaven, yet led them to the path of the Ultimate Truth.

The 'food for thought' was both literal and metaphorical... simultaneously... as is everything.
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If we want to dig deeper than King James, then I would tend to look at the Books of Enoch, because they are the ones that spoke of the giants, angels breeding with humans, Neiphilim, etc instead of some Babylonian (read: lies on par with the Talmud and Kabbalah.)

And, the Books of Enoch, which does chronicle Adam and Eve (via the book 'Conflict of Adam and Eve With Sata) after the garden specifically states that Adam and Eve were made the same day (ie: no, Adam did not have a first wife):

And You took me, the bone, and make me a woman, bright like him, with heart, reason, and speech; and in flesh, like to his own; and You made me after the likeness of his looks, by Your mercy and power. 11 O Lord, I and he are one, and You, O God, are our Creator, You are He who made us both in one day.

Then, it says:
And the Lord said to Adam and Eve, "You transgressed of your own free will, until you came out of the garden in which I had placed you. 5 Of your own free will have you transgressed through your desire for divinity, greatness, and an exalted state, such as I have; so that I deprived you of the bright nature in which you then were, and I made you come out of the garden to this land, rough and full of trouble. 6 If only you had not transgressed My commandment and had kept My law, and had not eaten of the fruit of the tree which I told you not to come near! And there were fruit trees in the garden better than that one.

So, it is as it says in the King James version in many ways. I do not personally believe that Adam and Eve had sex with Satan, because Adam also ate the fruit, so then he would have to have sex with Satan if that was indeed the 'fruit.' And, if it were the same fruit, then the kind of sex Eve was having with Satan would not have created a baby!

Also, Cain was not a twin. It is said in Enoch that Adam and Eve had TWIN daughters, but not sons. It is also stated in Enoch that Cain wanted to marry one of the daughters that was promised to Abel. So, there are many layers to the Cain vs Abel thing, but Enoch kind of goes into all of that as well.

There is a Cain bloodline, and his bloodline was cursed, and hence 'the mark of Cain.' This could be your blood line that ended up mating with angels and creating Neiphilim and other creations that could be the 'Jews'/'Satanic' tribes of today.

Let's not twist scripture- Eve's sin was not SEX. Her sin was the same as Satan's: trying to be like God. That's why Satan wants to confuse you. The desire to be like God IS a sin, and they may not want you to believe it (hence spreading false doctrine) but it is what it is.
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same guy update


The Garden OF Eden AGAIN!!

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That guy is so dumb.
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By dumb do you mean correct?
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No. He means that Jonathan is an A1 Dumb Fucker. The Fruitcake has way to much time on his hands.

Zooming in on skin and cobblestones? He lost it a Long time ago.

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