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The Garden of Eden Was More Than Just a Piece of Fruit....UPDATED AGAIN!!!

 
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Show us how translating it through Strongs changes the meaning from the King James, prove what you say rather than providing more of your opinions.

It's a simple thing that can prove what you say is true as

if it is not and you are not willing to provide evidence.

One might consider you a shill.


As you would another, in truth.
 Quoting: M1.618


Anything I post to "prove" what I say is true you will just say it's heresy like main stream "Christians" do.

I've given you the tools. It's much better if you make the discovery yourself. If I do the work for you there is no discovery.

I've shown a lot of evidence already.


'Woman' as used by God in Genesis 3

ish-shaw', naw-sheem'
The first form is the feminine of H376 or H582; the second form is an irregular plural; a woman (used in the same wide sense as H582).: - [adulter]ess, each, every, female, X many, + none, one, + together, wife, woman. Often unexpressed in English.

Are you going to keep saying that Eve was eating an apple?



'Beguiled'

naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce: - beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly.



'Touch'

naw-gah'
A primitive root; properly to touch, that is, lay the hand upon (for any purpose; euphemistically, to lie with a woman); by implication to reach (figuratively to arrive, acquire); violently, to strike (punish, defeat, destroy, etc.): - beat, (X be able to) bring (down), cast, come (nigh), draw near (nigh), get up, happen, join, near, plague, reach (up), smite, strike, touch.



'Eve'

khav-vaw'
Causative from H2331; lifegiver; Chavvah (or Eve), the first woman: - Eve.



So you will cling to main stream "Christianity" but at the same time you knock it saying that most Christians are lukewarm.

The Bible teaches us that nothing will be hidden and all will be revealed to those who have eyes to see. A lifting of the veil at the time of the end.

Apocalypse: apocalypse (Ancient Greek:meaning "uncovering"), translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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That is the problem with a lot of so called christian types.

They cannot get their heads around the fact that truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

Here even after the OP has clearly stated his case after a simple truth being pointed out the so called christians throw a hissy fit.

If they have trouble with a simple verse of scripture explaining what actually went down way back then to cause the fall of man imagine the problems they have with the Book of Enoch.

This really is a correct concept, most people cannot handle the truth.
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Thank you brother. Or if it's sister I thank you as well.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Not everyone has spoiled DNA. If it were so no one will survive. Every tree my father didn't plant will be rutted up and burned. He didn't plant the seed of Cain. The devil did. God started over once before that we know of. Noah was saved because he was pure in his generations ie.. race.
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The flesh profits nothing. Jesus instructed us to go make disciples of all nations.
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:jesuscool:
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Eyes to see ears to hear...great info ty for the thread OP. Dayum the devils are getting bolder all the time. Seems humans are getting blinder? Gosh I hope not. She ate of that tree and became totally seduced. Every molecule of her mind body and spirit. Death started. She shared it with Adam he ate of it too. And now we have commercials showing this and you can buy perfume to wear containing this sin?
Please, we must be near the end.lflash
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For the sake of argument, couldn't it be safe to agree that there are good people and evil people and the evil people will be destroyed at the time of the harvest...

which is now.....

according to many signs in the earth and skies....

and maybe even the mayan calendar + 1260 days or so???

hf
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So what exactly would constitute a grievous enough sin to get tossed out of Eden and the presence of God?

Eating an apple?
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The evil that runs this place know more about the truth than we do. They hide the truth from us by flaunting it in our faces.

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The laugh at us and mock us while they steal our wallets.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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the garden of eden was on another planet
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You are helping them demonize the Holy Spirit...sigh
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Can you explain a bit more? I'm absolutely flabbergasted by that ad. I can't believe they would do it myself.
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Sheldon adelson , baruch Goldstein , jon pollard - adelson , tony weiner - dalsimer , tony embriano , BILL GERTZ , Israel Grunwald , avigdor Lieberman , lewis Brenner, perry ian cohen and the ROGER AILES Zionist fifth column of AIPAC - KKK.
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That's a lot of stuff to research. Wish I knew where your heart is.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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same guy update


The Garden OF Eden AGAIN!!

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Thanks!



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Last Edited by Sobriquet™ on 05/27/2016 01:53 PM
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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That guy is so dumb.
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By dumb do you mean correct?
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No. He means that Jonathan is an A1 Dumb Fucker. The Fruitcake has way to much time on his hands.

Zooming in on skin and cobblestones? He lost it a Long time ago.

yourere
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Many people will not be able to "see".

Jesus came here so the blind will see and those that say they can see will be made blind.

Enjoy your darkness while you can. Time is short.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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the garden of eden was on another planet
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Adam and Eve both said there was a sun that never set
when they came here...they saw our sun rise for the first time

they got scared and thought God was coming back to kill them


an angel showed up and said "THIS sun is NOT God"




i can show you a link

it is in the lost Books of the Bible
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Show us how translating it through Strongs changes the meaning from the King James, prove what you say rather than providing more of your opinions.

It's a simple thing that can prove what you say is true as

if it is not and you are not willing to provide evidence.

One might consider you a shill.


As you would another, in truth.
 Quoting: M1.618


Anything I post to "prove" what I say is true you will just say it's heresy like main stream "Christians" do.

I've given you the tools. It's much better if you make the discovery yourself. If I do the work for you there is no discovery.

I've shown a lot of evidence already.


'Woman' as used by God in Genesis 3

ish-shaw', naw-sheem'
The first form is the feminine of H376 or H582; the second form is an irregular plural; a woman (used in the same wide sense as H582).: - [adulter]ess, each, every, female, X many, + none, one, + together, wife, woman. Often unexpressed in English.

Are you going to keep saying that Eve was eating an apple?



'Beguiled'

naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce: - beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly.



'Touch'

naw-gah'
A primitive root; properly to touch, that is, lay the hand upon (for any purpose; euphemistically, to lie with a woman); by implication to reach (figuratively to arrive, acquire); violently, to strike (punish, defeat, destroy, etc.): - beat, (X be able to) bring (down), cast, come (nigh), draw near (nigh), get up, happen, join, near, plague, reach (up), smite, strike, touch.



'Eve'

khav-vaw'
Causative from H2331; lifegiver; Chavvah (or Eve), the first woman: - Eve.



So you will cling to main stream "Christianity" but at the same time you knock it saying that most Christians are lukewarm.

The Bible teaches us that nothing will be hidden and all will be revealed to those who have eyes to see. A lifting of the veil at the time of the end.

Apocalypse: apocalypse (Ancient Greek:meaning "uncovering"), translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™





All you did was translate words, in a way that supports your bias,

completely disregarding Gen 4 where it clearly states that Adam "knew"

Eve and she had gotten a man from the serpent?
No,
from the Lord.

Did eve "know" the serpent? No she was "beguiled"



You are very confused.

I am not Christian as I do not share a common belief in some part.


I did not say "most Christians are luke warm",

I did not say it was an apple.

If I did show us where,


prove it


or again your failure is obvious.

And rather than seek truth you continue down your path of obvious delusion.



Concerning Apocalypse

2 Thessalonians 2

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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Eyes to see ears to hear...great info ty for the thread OP. Dayum the devils are getting bolder all the time. Seems humans are getting blinder? Gosh I hope not. She ate of that tree and became totally seduced. Every molecule of her mind body and spirit. Death started. She shared it with Adam he ate of it too. And now we have commercials showing this and you can buy perfume to wear containing this sin?
Please, we must be near the end.lflash
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God has blessed you with the ability to see.

All glory to God!
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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The Garden OF Eden AGAIN!!

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Thanks!



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Original 'Coco' commercial...



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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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For the sake of argument, couldn't it be safe to agree that there are good people and evil people and the evil people will be destroyed at the time of the harvest...

which is now.....

according to many signs in the earth and skies....

and maybe even the mayan calendar + 1260 days or so???

hf
 Quoting: Daddysgirl


Correct.

But still people refuse to open their eyes. They are too enamored with the flesh and worldly things. They are still trapped in their skin. They refuse to see the truth.

Hence this thread.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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For the sake of argument, couldn't it be safe to agree that there are good people and evil people and the evil people will be destroyed at the time of the harvest...

which is now.....

according to many signs in the earth and skies....

and maybe even the mayan calendar + 1260 days or so???

hf
 Quoting: Daddysgirl


Correct.

But still people refuse to open their eyes. They are too enamored with the flesh and worldly things. They are still trapped in their skin. They refuse to see the truth.

Hence this thread.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


You know, I just hope that somehow those people that used to be bad, have or WILL change before the harvest happens. I don't want to see anything bad happen to anyone...

everyone deserves a second chance....

jmho....

hf
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Re: The Garden of Eden Was More Than Just a Piece of Fruit....UPDATED AGAIN!!!
you all talk about the "blind" people

HAHAHA now thats a hoot



the whole world is blind
if you believe any religion
you are blind


when ADAM and EVE came here
they did NOT want to eat the food from the earth
because they KNEW it would BIND them to this planet


and it did
after about 30 days they ate after resisting as long as they could

then their insides changed as they ate

they became mortal

now what does this tell you?
we are told we "inherit" everlasting life
and are given lifes water and the fruit of life

it is literally food and water from their planet

if you believe in a giant invisible wizard god
then YOU are the one who is BLIND


1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

1 Timothy 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.

2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
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The Garden of Eden was about Lucifers children, his descendants, living in war against Adams sons.
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Can you explain what Adam had to do with the "fruit"? She gave the "fruit" to Adam and he took it. So...does than mean that he also "lay" with the "fruit"?

I'm not trying to be rude...just trying to figure how it might have happened.
Thanks!
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There's really no getting around it. OP is correct, the first act of infidelity did occur in the garden of Eden between Satan and Eve. This is why the Lord said to Satan:

"...I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed."[Gen.3:15]

"Your seed" represents children born from adultery and fornication. And "her Seed" represents the Lord Jesus Christ, as well as all children born within the marriage covenant. It's wicked and selfish to deliberately choose to have children outside the marriage covenant! This is how the World gets filled with devilish seed instead of godly seed. The Devil knows this that's why he hates the marriage covenant so much.

Satan did not father Cain! He did, however, defile Eve. As a result, he defiled the marriage covenant! And that's why Adam shouldn't have had sex with Eve, once she was defiled. Because he did, Adam's first born, Cain, was a profaned seed.

Sexual intercourse within the marriage covenant is represented in Scripture as eating good fruit, while fornication and adultery is represented by eating bad fruit.

"Like an apple tree among the trees of the woods, So is my beloved among the sons. I sat down in his shade with great delight, And his fruit was sweet to my taste." [Songs of Sol.2:3]

Once Eve had been defiled by Satan, Adam also defiled himself by having sex with Eve. For as the first Man, Adam was the Priest of the Human race. And it's strictly forbidden for a priest to have sexual intercourse with a woman who has been defiled!

"And the Lord said to Moses, “Speak to the priests...They shall not take a wife who is a harlot or a defiled woman...he shall take a wife in her virginity. A widow or a divorced woman or a defiled woman or a harlot—these he shall not marry; but he shall take a virgin of his own people as wife. Nor shall he profane his posterity among his people, for I the Lord sanctify him.’” [Lev.21:1,7,13-15]

Adam didn't take Eve in her virginity, as a consequence, he profaned his posterity through Cain. And what so tragic is that up until this very day, hundreds of millions of men, all claiming to be Christians, are still profaning their posterity through adultery. May God have mercy on their souls!
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Is this another video by that guy with the voice which makes his videos unwatchable?
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This is a must see video. It's not long and very watchable.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


I puked half way thru and turned it off.
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All Christians may not believe that Eve was first impregnated by the serpent, or as he appeared to Eve - the most beautiful Angel ever created- but you must understand that Templars, Freemasons, all sorts of Babylon mystery school adherents and brotherhoods, believe this.
Freemasons call themselves sons of Cain.
It's all about the sons of Cain and the sons of Adam and which side you choose to graft yourself to.
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Can you explain what Adam had to do with the "fruit"? She gave the "fruit" to Adam and he took it. So...does than mean that he also "lay" with the "fruit"?

I'm not trying to be rude...just trying to figure how it might have happened.
Thanks!
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There's really no getting around it. OP is correct, the first act of infidelity did occur in the garden of Eden between Satan and Eve. This is why the Lord said to Satan:

"...I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed."[Gen.3:15]

"Your seed" represents children born from adultery and fornication. And "her Seed" represents the Lord Jesus Christ, as well as all children born within the marriage covenant. It's wicked and selfish to deliberately choose to have children outside the marriage covenant! This is how the World gets filled with devilish seed instead of godly seed. The Devil knows this that's why he hates the marriage covenant so much.

Satan did not father Cain! He did, however, defile Eve. As a result, he defiled the marriage covenant! And that's why Adam shouldn't have had sex with Eve, once she was defiled. Because he did, Adam's first born, Cain, was a profaned seed.

Sexual intercourse within the marriage covenant is represented in Scripture as eating good fruit, while fornication and adultery is represented by eating bad fruit.

"Like an apple tree among the trees of the woods, So is my beloved among the sons. I sat down in his shade with great delight, And his fruit was sweet to my taste." [Songs of Sol.2:3]

Once Eve had been defiled by Satan, Adam also defiled himself by having sex with Eve. For as the first Man, Adam was the Priest of the Human race. And it's strictly forbidden for a priest to have sexual intercourse with a woman who has been defiled!

"And the Lord said to Moses, “Speak to the priests...They shall not take a wife who is a harlot or a defiled woman...he shall take a wife in her virginity. A widow or a divorced woman or a defiled woman or a harlot—these he shall not marry; but he shall take a virgin of his own people as wife. Nor shall he profane his posterity among his people, for I the Lord sanctify him.’” [Lev.21:1,7,13-15]

Adam didn't take Eve in her virginity, as a consequence, he profaned his posterity through Cain. And what so tragic is that up until this very day, hundreds of millions of men, all claiming to be Christians, are still profaning their posterity through adultery. May God have mercy on their souls!
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


DUMB beloved. Satan the angel has NO PENIS to defile eve. Neither Eve or Adam were the first man and woman on earth. The earth was fully populated then... and Adam and eve came 38000 years ago.

REally a garbage post and one reason while Christianity is the most dangerous religion on earth.

I am god knowing by the way and Jesus is my best friend and he is returned but this above is beyond GROSS and not how it was.

When will you people figure out angels are not sexually reproducing beings? They are not of the animal evolution.

If you read the story in your own bible around adam and eve IT MENTIONS OTHER PEOPLE. Did you ones even try to read that book. Its full of error but your insisting on being MIND CONTROLLED by your churches causes you to not see the error.

There are d3 adam and eve type stories. One is around the anunnaki upgrade of mankind in that region and one is about Adam and EVE 38000 years ago and another is around the reseeding of earth of humans from other worlds after that trip thru the photon belt

The version needing to be read and understand is the one in the Urantia Book.

Eve did not have sex with Satan in any of the 3 versions. Also there is a version I forgot about in which a craft crashed in western russia 14,000 years ago and there were 3 survivors a MAN and Two woman who migrated to a warmer area. now israel more or less and they did not procreate with the beasts of that area and procrated amongst themselves for a long time and did found a new race of people there
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Show us how translating it through Strongs changes the meaning from the King James, prove what you say rather than providing more of your opinions.

It's a simple thing that can prove what you say is true as

if it is not and you are not willing to provide evidence.

One might consider you a shill.


As you would another, in truth.
 Quoting: M1.618


Anything I post to "prove" what I say is true you will just say it's heresy like main stream "Christians" do.

I've given you the tools. It's much better if you make the discovery yourself. If I do the work for you there is no discovery.

I've shown a lot of evidence already.


'Woman' as used by God in Genesis 3

ish-shaw', naw-sheem'
The first form is the feminine of H376 or H582; the second form is an irregular plural; a woman (used in the same wide sense as H582).: - [adulter]ess, each, every, female, X many, + none, one, + together, wife, woman. Often unexpressed in English.

Are you going to keep saying that Eve was eating an apple?



'Beguiled'

naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce: - beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly.



'Touch'

naw-gah'
A primitive root; properly to touch, that is, lay the hand upon (for any purpose; euphemistically, to lie with a woman); by implication to reach (figuratively to arrive, acquire); violently, to strike (punish, defeat, destroy, etc.): - beat, (X be able to) bring (down), cast, come (nigh), draw near (nigh), get up, happen, join, near, plague, reach (up), smite, strike, touch.



'Eve'

khav-vaw'
Causative from H2331; lifegiver; Chavvah (or Eve), the first woman: - Eve.



So you will cling to main stream "Christianity" but at the same time you knock it saying that most Christians are lukewarm.

The Bible teaches us that nothing will be hidden and all will be revealed to those who have eyes to see. A lifting of the veil at the time of the end.

Apocalypse: apocalypse (Ancient Greek:meaning "uncovering"), translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™





All you did was translate words, in a way that supports your bias,

completely disregarding Gen 4 where it clearly states that Adam "knew"

Eve and she had gotten a man from the serpent?
No,
from the Lord.

Did eve "know" the serpent? No she was "beguiled"



You are very confused.

I am not Christian as I do not share a common belief in some part.


I did not say "most Christians are luke warm",

I did not say it was an apple.

If I did show us where,


prove it


or again your failure is obvious.

And rather than seek truth you continue down your path of obvious delusion.



Concerning Apocalypse

2 Thessalonians 2

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 Quoting: M1.618


The proof is within. You seek proof. I show you. You choose to ignore it.

Not much more I can do for you. It's up to you now.

I can show you proof all day but your eyes will remain closed.

This world is run by Satan. It's his realm. My eyes were closed like yours. But now they are fully open. I know the truth because I searched deep within in prayer. The truth has truly set me free from this world.

Satan has infected everything and made us to want things we don't need. He's infected everything from the school system to the White House.

His evil is in the food we eat and the clothes we wear.
You refuse to open your eyes to a very simple truth. A truth that will not harm you in any way.

All you can do is claim my beliefs are of the devil when I am exposing the devil himself for what he is.

Like I said. Some are not meant to see.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
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The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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For the sake of argument, couldn't it be safe to agree that there are good people and evil people and the evil people will be destroyed at the time of the harvest...

which is now.....

according to many signs in the earth and skies....

and maybe even the mayan calendar + 1260 days or so???

hf
 Quoting: Daddysgirl


Correct.

But still people refuse to open their eyes. They are too enamored with the flesh and worldly things. They are still trapped in their skin. They refuse to see the truth.

Hence this thread.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


You know, I just hope that somehow those people that used to be bad, have or WILL change before the harvest happens. I don't want to see anything bad happen to anyone...

everyone deserves a second chance....

jmho....

hf
 Quoting: Daddysgirl


How many chances do they deserve?

If their sin was against creation this is one matter,

but their rebellion is against the Most High..,


so out of the time they were already given
how much more is required,

or perhaps a tribulation is all the chance left to give,

& even this chance is given in mercy.

But only in context to the alternative,

hf
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Can you explain what Adam had to do with the "fruit"? She gave the "fruit" to Adam and he took it. So...does than mean that he also "lay" with the "fruit"?

I'm not trying to be rude...just trying to figure how it might have happened.
Thanks!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70038592


There's really no getting around it. OP is correct, the first act of infidelity did occur in the garden of Eden between Satan and Eve. This is why the Lord said to Satan:

"...I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed."[Gen.3:15]

"Your seed" represents children born from adultery and fornication. And "her Seed" represents the Lord Jesus Christ, as well as all children born within the marriage covenant. It's wicked and selfish to deliberately choose to have children outside the marriage covenant! This is how the World gets filled with devilish seed instead of godly seed. The Devil knows this that's why he hates the marriage covenant so much.

Satan did not father Cain! He did, however, defile Eve. As a result, he defiled the marriage covenant! And that's why Adam shouldn't have had sex with Eve, once she was defiled. Because he did, Adam's first born, Cain, was a profaned seed.

Sexual intercourse within the marriage covenant is represented in Scripture as eating good fruit, while fornication and adultery is represented by eating bad fruit.

"Like an apple tree among the trees of the woods, So is my beloved among the sons. I sat down in his shade with great delight, And his fruit was sweet to my taste." [Songs of Sol.2:3]

Once Eve had been defiled by Satan, Adam also defiled himself by having sex with Eve. For as the first Man, Adam was the Priest of the Human race. And it's strictly forbidden for a priest to have sexual intercourse with a woman who has been defiled!

"And the Lord said to Moses, “Speak to the priests...They shall not take a wife who is a harlot or a defiled woman...he shall take a wife in her virginity. A widow or a divorced woman or a defiled woman or a harlot—these he shall not marry; but he shall take a virgin of his own people as wife. Nor shall he profane his posterity among his people, for I the Lord sanctify him.’” [Lev.21:1,7,13-15]

Adam didn't take Eve in her virginity, as a consequence, he profaned his posterity through Cain. And what so tragic is that up until this very day, hundreds of millions of men, all claiming to be Christians, are still profaning their posterity through adultery. May God have mercy on their souls!
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


DUMB beloved. Satan the angel has NO PENIS to defile eve. Neither Eve or Adam were the first man and woman on earth. The earth was fully populated then... and Adam and eve came 38000 years ago.

REally a garbage post and one reason while Christianity is the most dangerous religion on earth.

I am god knowing by the way and Jesus is my best friend and he is returned but this above is beyond GROSS and not how it was.

When will you people figure out angels are not sexually reproducing beings? They are not of the animal evolution.

If you read the story in your own bible around adam and eve IT MENTIONS OTHER PEOPLE. Did you ones even try to read that book. Its full of error but your insisting on being MIND CONTROLLED by your churches causes you to not see the error.

There are d3 adam and eve type stories. One is around the anunnaki upgrade of mankind in that region and one is about Adam and EVE 38000 years ago and another is around the reseeding of earth of humans from other worlds after that trip thru the photon belt

The version needing to be read and understand is the one in the Urantia Book.

Eve did not have sex with Satan in any of the 3 versions. Also there is a version I forgot about in which a craft crashed in western russia 14,000 years ago and there were 3 survivors a MAN and Two woman who migrated to a warmer area. now israel more or less and they did not procreate with the beasts of that area and procrated amongst themselves for a long time and did found a new race of people there
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21295584


I see candace has finally joined the party here....LOL!
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For the sake of argument, couldn't it be safe to agree that there are good people and evil people and the evil people will be destroyed at the time of the harvest...

which is now.....

according to many signs in the earth and skies....

and maybe even the mayan calendar + 1260 days or so???

hf
 Quoting: Daddysgirl


Correct.

But still people refuse to open their eyes. They are too enamored with the flesh and worldly things. They are still trapped in their skin. They refuse to see the truth.

Hence this thread.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


You know, I just hope that somehow those people that used to be bad, have or WILL change before the harvest happens. I don't want to see anything bad happen to anyone...

everyone deserves a second chance....

jmho....

hf
 Quoting: Daddysgirl


I know in my heart that he will give every last one of us every chance to enter his kingdom. We will know for sure soon enough.

hf
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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you all talk about the "blind" people

HAHAHA now thats a hoot



the whole world is blind
if you believe any religion
you are blind


when ADAM and EVE came here
they did NOT want to eat the food from the earth
because they KNEW it would BIND them to this planet


and it did
after about 30 days they ate after resisting as long as they could

then their insides changed as they ate

they became mortal

now what does this tell you?
we are told we "inherit" everlasting life
and are given lifes water and the fruit of life

it is literally food and water from their planet

if you believe in a giant invisible wizard god
then YOU are the one who is BLIND


1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

1 Timothy 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.

2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44085320


You say that those with religion are blind yet you bring us your religion.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Penis crystal.
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she overcame the penis worship.
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Penis crystal.
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she overcame the penis worship.
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Show us how translating it through Strongs changes the meaning from the King James, prove what you say rather than providing more of your opinions.

It's a simple thing that can prove what you say is true as

if it is not and you are not willing to provide evidence.

One might consider you a shill.


As you would another, in truth.
 Quoting: M1.618


Anything I post to "prove" what I say is true you will just say it's heresy like main stream "Christians" do.

I've given you the tools. It's much better if you make the discovery yourself. If I do the work for you there is no discovery.

I've shown a lot of evidence already.


'Woman' as used by God in Genesis 3

ish-shaw', naw-sheem'
The first form is the feminine of H376 or H582; the second form is an irregular plural; a woman (used in the same wide sense as H582).: - [adulter]ess, each, every, female, X many, + none, one, + together, wife, woman. Often unexpressed in English.

Are you going to keep saying that Eve was eating an apple?



'Beguiled'

naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce: - beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly.



'Touch'

naw-gah'
A primitive root; properly to touch, that is, lay the hand upon (for any purpose; euphemistically, to lie with a woman); by implication to reach (figuratively to arrive, acquire); violently, to strike (punish, defeat, destroy, etc.): - beat, (X be able to) bring (down), cast, come (nigh), draw near (nigh), get up, happen, join, near, plague, reach (up), smite, strike, touch.



'Eve'

khav-vaw'
Causative from H2331; lifegiver; Chavvah (or Eve), the first woman: - Eve.



So you will cling to main stream "Christianity" but at the same time you knock it saying that most Christians are lukewarm.

The Bible teaches us that nothing will be hidden and all will be revealed to those who have eyes to see. A lifting of the veil at the time of the end.

Apocalypse: apocalypse (Ancient Greek:meaning "uncovering"), translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™





All you did was translate words, in a way that supports your bias,

completely disregarding Gen 4 where it clearly states that Adam "knew"

Eve and she had gotten a man from the serpent?
No,
from the Lord.

Did eve "know" the serpent? No she was "beguiled"



You are very confused.

I am not Christian as I do not share a common belief in some part.


I did not say "most Christians are luke warm",

I did not say it was an apple.

If I did show us where,


prove it


or again your failure is obvious.

And rather than seek truth you continue down your path of obvious delusion.



Concerning Apocalypse

2 Thessalonians 2

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 Quoting: M1.618


The proof is within. You seek proof. I show you. You choose to ignore it.

Not much more I can do for you. It's up to you now.

I can show you proof all day but your eyes will remain closed.

This world is run by Satan. It's his realm. My eyes were closed like yours. But now they are fully open. I know the truth because I searched deep within in prayer. The truth has truly set me free from this world.

Satan has infected everything and made us to want things we don't need. He's infected everything from the school system to the White House.

His evil is in the food we eat and the clothes we wear.
You refuse to open your eyes to a very simple truth. A truth that will not harm you in any way.

All you can do is claim my beliefs are of the devil when I am exposing the devil himself for what he is.

Like I said. Some are not meant to see.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


What like your myths about how

I stated that the fruit was an apple?

Or that Christians are lukewarm?


You are clearly a liar or mistaken,
if mistaken you don't care to even admit it.


Your words as ideas are as good as dung,
in the light of truth when tested, examined.

It is not the analysis of the video that is false but the conclusion.


So even if my eyes are closed this is but your opinion and considering the source based on the history you have presented,

I would regard this conclusion with much suspicion.
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