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The Garden of Eden Was More Than Just a Piece of Fruit....UPDATED AGAIN!!!

 
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That is how she crushed his head(penis)
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you all talk about the "blind" people

HAHAHA now thats a hoot



the whole world is blind
if you believe any religion
you are blind


when ADAM and EVE came here
they did NOT want to eat the food from the earth
because they KNEW it would BIND them to this planet


and it did
after about 30 days they ate after resisting as long as they could

then their insides changed as they ate

they became mortal

now what does this tell you?
we are told we "inherit" everlasting life
and are given lifes water and the fruit of life

it is literally food and water from their planet

if you believe in a giant invisible wizard god
then YOU are the one who is BLIND


1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

1 Timothy 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.

2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
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You say that those with religion are blind yet you bring us your religion.
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beings from another planet is not religion
the bible is not religion
nibiru is not religion
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That is how she crushed his head(penis)
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laugh
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Can you explain what Adam had to do with the "fruit"? She gave the "fruit" to Adam and he took it. So...does than mean that he also "lay" with the "fruit"?

I'm not trying to be rude...just trying to figure how it might have happened.
Thanks!
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There's really no getting around it. OP is correct, the first act of infidelity did occur in the garden of Eden between Satan and Eve. This is why the Lord said to Satan:

"...I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed."[Gen.3:15]

"Your seed" represents children born from adultery and fornication. And "her Seed" represents the Lord Jesus Christ, as well as all children born within the marriage covenant. It's wicked and selfish to deliberately choose to have children outside the marriage covenant! This is how the World gets filled with devilish seed instead of godly seed. The Devil knows this that's why he hates the marriage covenant so much.

Satan did not father Cain! He did, however, defile Eve. As a result, he defiled the marriage covenant! And that's why Adam shouldn't have had sex with Eve, once she was defiled. Because he did, Adam's first born, Cain, was a profaned seed.

Sexual intercourse within the marriage covenant is represented in Scripture as eating good fruit, while fornication and adultery is represented by eating bad fruit.

"Like an apple tree among the trees of the woods, So is my beloved among the sons. I sat down in his shade with great delight, And his fruit was sweet to my taste." [Songs of Sol.2:3]

Once Eve had been defiled by Satan, Adam also defiled himself by having sex with Eve. For as the first Man, Adam was the Priest of the Human race. And it's strictly forbidden for a priest to have sexual intercourse with a woman who has been defiled!

"And the Lord said to Moses, “Speak to the priests...They shall not take a wife who is a harlot or a defiled woman...he shall take a wife in her virginity. A widow or a divorced woman or a defiled woman or a harlot—these he shall not marry; but he shall take a virgin of his own people as wife. Nor shall he profane his posterity among his people, for I the Lord sanctify him.’” [Lev.21:1,7,13-15]

Adam didn't take Eve in her virginity, as a consequence, he profaned his posterity through Cain. And what so tragic is that up until this very day, hundreds of millions of men, all claiming to be Christians, are still profaning their posterity through adultery. May God have mercy on their souls!
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Thank you for your comment. It's truly appreciated. I may not agree with every word you wrote but that's not what matters. What I think is not important.

What's important is that the sheep open their eyes to the Word and their ears to our Lord and Savior's voice and follow his voice.

My intent was not to confuse but to draw interest to God. So those who agree or disagree might open up their Bibles and read. The truth has been hidden from us by the evil ones.

Adultery and lying go hand in hand.
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
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The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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This guy is such a windbag. I love his stuff but holy crap he likes to hear himself talk. Great info. Very relevant. 2 minutes of info spread out over 10 minutes of talking. He needs to be a little less self absorbed if he wants his stuff to be taken seriously by the masses.
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All Christians may not believe that Eve was first impregnated by the serpent, or as he appeared to Eve - the most beautiful Angel ever created- but you must understand that Templars, Freemasons, all sorts of Babylon mystery school adherents and brotherhoods, believe this.
Freemasons call themselves sons of Cain.
It's all about the sons of Cain and the sons of Adam and which side you choose to graft yourself to.
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Well put!

Thank you for this post.

Even if you do not believe and think it is fables or that the Bible itself is one big fable....THEY BELIEVE IT!

They hide their works thinking no one will see them.

Usually they hide their works in plain site.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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most of this thread is really really awful just like every other Adam and Eve thread here.

You want the truth you go the Urantia Book. And I would suggest that all you ignorant of God religitards here which is most of you go to the last paper in the Urantia Book and read it also. You post this dumb stupid shit because you have bought the story that the bible is God's word and incorrupt. It is not God's word its a collection of the stories of man.

Most of you have never even read your bible. you reuse the stuff your churches put out over and over and they are not correct.

God is not a person on a broomstick but this what you make him to be.

That God is spirit and IN EVERYTHING means he doesn't ride a broomstick It means God the Trinity is the entire creating energetic mindal process that is in all of the creation.

The Eternal Son is more or less overly simply stated. the BODY of the Father. It is not Jesus

YOU ARE DANGEROUS PEOPLE because you accept SLOP and do not walk AS God on this world.

God the father is on this and other worlds only thru Human Beings and the angelic realms. PERIOD. Your MINDS if you are normal minded and moral are indwelled by a FRAGMENT of the MIND OF TEH FATHER.... and you point the sky when you worship.

God the Father only manifests on this world thru Humans..

And 3rd person Trinity manifests within ALL LIFE ON THIS WORLD and has been on this world since it was seeded with life 550 million years ago.
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That is the problem with a lot of so called christian types.

They cannot get their heads around the fact that truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

Here even after the OP has clearly stated his case after a simple truth being pointed out the so called christians throw a hissy fit.

If they have trouble with a simple verse of scripture explaining what actually went down way back then to cause the fall of man imagine the problems they have with the Book of Enoch.

This really is a correct concept, most people cannot handle the truth.
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Thank you brother. Or if it's sister I thank you as well.
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Great thread Sobriquet! I've learned a lot from reading your threads and your responses in other threads! You have much wisdom!

Thank you

hf

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the garden of eden was on nibiru or oone of its orbital bodies

they had a sun that never set
and food that they only had to eat infrequently

the food there is from their planetary orbit
and had properties of the planet therein
larger orbit= longer lifespan = much higher nutritional value


they were created in the image of their creators

they (we) are half them

so if they came HERE and ate food that made them mortal


what happens if WE eat food from THAT location?

the bible says we get "everlasting life" and "water of life" as well as the "fruit of life"


food and water from their planet
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All Christians may not believe that Eve was first impregnated by the serpent, or as he appeared to Eve - the most beautiful Angel ever created- but you must understand that Templars, Freemasons, all sorts of Babylon mystery school adherents and brotherhoods, believe this.
Freemasons call themselves sons of Cain.
It's all about the sons of Cain and the sons of Adam and which side you choose to graft yourself to.
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I don't believe the garden of eden was here on earth, it was in the spiritual realm, paradise.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

It was both. The physical mimics the spiritual. What we build, do, say, think & read are personal variation copies of the one truth. One of the then 'controllers' offered these beings an earth paradise in an attempt to keep them from the truth, to keep control.

However, the spiritual desire cannot be controlled & blocked by others... if you don't allow it, if you see through it. She, through her inner yearnings of truth; sought, and ate, the fruit of truth regardless. It denied them their 'fake' wannabe heaven, yet led them to the path of the Ultimate Truth.

The 'food for thought' was both literal and metaphorical... simultaneously... as is everything.
 Quoting: Pavana


The metaphor of Cain (cane) and Abel (able). The "brothers" as 2 parts of 1 Self.

Ego/Hate versus Logic/Love
Lies versus Truth
Density versus Subtlety
Evil versus Righteous

"Do not be like Cain (of the ego), who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother’s were righteous."

The ego destroyed, over powered, The Truth. God made Cain grow a horn (ONE horn) on his head. His slaying is 7 fold 'vengeance' (must travel all physical paths of lessons - starting back at 1 again). 2 horns is NOT Satan, devil, evil. There's a horn that toots ego and a horn that blows truth. She, the Serpent, is the deliverer of The Truth. The She of the 2 part he/she is not the whore or anti-christ.

The 7 spiral 'paths' to Truth:

[link to imgur.com]

The 'Illuminati' think they know, guard & hoard The Truth; however, their interpretation & understanding is ego/fear based. THE Truth of Maat is protected by the veil of Isis, the guardian. The Truth, hidden in myth & symbols, is only blocked by FEAR.

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God the Father only manifests on this world thru Humans..
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I was making a tent, a homemade one for two.

Tent /house
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The tent and white stone of Truth.
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For the sake of argument, couldn't it be safe to agree that there are good people and evil people and the evil people will be destroyed at the time of the harvest...

which is now.....

according to many signs in the earth and skies....

and maybe even the mayan calendar + 1260 days or so???

hf
 Quoting: Daddysgirl


Correct.

But still people refuse to open their eyes. They are too enamored with the flesh and worldly things. They are still trapped in their skin. They refuse to see the truth.

Hence this thread.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


You know, I just hope that somehow those people that used to be bad, have or WILL change before the harvest happens. I don't want to see anything bad happen to anyone...

everyone deserves a second chance....

jmho....

hf
 Quoting: Daddysgirl


How many chances do they deserve?

If their sin was against creation this is one matter,

but their rebellion is against the Most High..,


so out of the time they were already given
how much more is required,

or perhaps a tribulation is all the chance left to give,

& even this chance is given in mercy.

But only in context to the alternative,

hf
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However many chances God wishes. It's his call. We will all stand before him. It's not up to us to wonder how many chances someone gets at eternity.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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"Know thy flesh"
cerberus
flesh
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NOT metaphors


LITERAL meanings misunderstood due to lack of vocabulary


they wrote of things they had no words to describe
"orbit"= circuit
"planet"=God
"spaceship"=chariot

etc etc etc

can a caveman write a paper on molecular biology?

if he was forced to...what would it read like?
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The tent and white stone of Truth.
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[link to biblehub.com]
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Can you explain what Adam had to do with the "fruit"? She gave the "fruit" to Adam and he took it. So...does than mean that he also "lay" with the "fruit"?

I'm not trying to be rude...just trying to figure how it might have happened.
Thanks!
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There's really no getting around it. OP is correct, the first act of infidelity did occur in the garden of Eden between Satan and Eve. This is why the Lord said to Satan:

"...I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed."[Gen.3:15]

"Your seed" represents children born from adultery and fornication. And "her Seed" represents the Lord Jesus Christ, as well as all children born within the marriage covenant. It's wicked and selfish to deliberately choose to have children outside the marriage covenant! This is how the World gets filled with devilish seed instead of godly seed. The Devil knows this that's why he hates the marriage covenant so much.

Satan did not father Cain! He did, however, defile Eve. As a result, he defiled the marriage covenant! And that's why Adam shouldn't have had sex with Eve, once she was defiled. Because he did, Adam's first born, Cain, was a profaned seed.

Sexual intercourse within the marriage covenant is represented in Scripture as eating good fruit, while fornication and adultery is represented by eating bad fruit.

"Like an apple tree among the trees of the woods, So is my beloved among the sons. I sat down in his shade with great delight, And his fruit was sweet to my taste." [Songs of Sol.2:3]

Once Eve had been defiled by Satan, Adam also defiled himself by having sex with Eve. For as the first Man, Adam was the Priest of the Human race. And it's strictly forbidden for a priest to have sexual intercourse with a woman who has been defiled!

"And the Lord said to Moses, “Speak to the priests...They shall not take a wife who is a harlot or a defiled woman...he shall take a wife in her virginity. A widow or a divorced woman or a defiled woman or a harlot—these he shall not marry; but he shall take a virgin of his own people as wife. Nor shall he profane his posterity among his people, for I the Lord sanctify him.’” [Lev.21:1,7,13-15]

Adam didn't take Eve in her virginity, as a consequence, he profaned his posterity through Cain. And what so tragic is that up until this very day, hundreds of millions of men, all claiming to be Christians, are still profaning their posterity through adultery. May God have mercy on their souls!
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


DUMB beloved. Satan the angel has NO PENIS to defile eve. Neither Eve or Adam were the first man and woman on earth. The earth was fully populated then... and Adam and eve came 38000 years ago.

REally a garbage post and one reason while Christianity is the most dangerous religion on earth.

I am god knowing by the way and Jesus is my best friend and he is returned but this above is beyond GROSS and not how it was.

When will you people figure out angels are not sexually reproducing beings? They are not of the animal evolution.

If you read the story in your own bible around adam and eve IT MENTIONS OTHER PEOPLE. Did you ones even try to read that book. Its full of error but your insisting on being MIND CONTROLLED by your churches causes you to not see the error.

There are d3 adam and eve type stories. One is around the anunnaki upgrade of mankind in that region and one is about Adam and EVE 38000 years ago and another is around the reseeding of earth of humans from other worlds after that trip thru the photon belt

The version needing to be read and understand is the one in the Urantia Book.

Eve did not have sex with Satan in any of the 3 versions. Also there is a version I forgot about in which a craft crashed in western russia 14,000 years ago and there were 3 survivors a MAN and Two woman who migrated to a warmer area. now israel more or less and they did not procreate with the beasts of that area and procrated amongst themselves for a long time and did found a new race of people there
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I see candace has finally joined the party here....LOL!
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I knew that the Urantia book was of the evil one forty years before I was even saved. There was a definite 'knowing' as I walked past the book shelf. I'm so glad I never picked it up and just the few pages I've read on the internet from it confirmed this 'knowing'.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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the truth is NIBIRU

"angels" are inhabitants
its orbit brings it close to us that they can visit when it approaches


they left because their planet left
they will return when it gets close enough
it will bring destruction with it


they were here at one time
the bible says god walked the garden with adam and eve

then they left

they have been gone for some time
but the bible says they will one day return

this alone implies a cycle
and what in space works in cycles?


the bible is about the return of NIBIRU and the actions they will take to ensure mankinds survival
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Correct.

But still people refuse to open their eyes. They are too enamored with the flesh and worldly things. They are still trapped in their skin. They refuse to see the truth.

Hence this thread.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


You know, I just hope that somehow those people that used to be bad, have or WILL change before the harvest happens. I don't want to see anything bad happen to anyone...

everyone deserves a second chance....

jmho....

hf
 Quoting: Daddysgirl


How many chances do they deserve?

If their sin was against creation this is one matter,

but their rebellion is against the Most High..,


so out of the time they were already given
how much more is required,

or perhaps a tribulation is all the chance left to give,

& even this chance is given in mercy.

But only in context to the alternative,

hf
 Quoting: M1.618


However many chances God wishes. It's his call. We will all stand before him. It's not up to us to wonder how many chances someone gets at eternity.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


You try to convince yourself of this,
although it clearly is not in the word as nature.

It is clear that man has been given a time as
an appointed time of judgement.

It is clear that He finds fault even with the angels.

It is clear that the high priest wears a cord around his ankle before the mercy seat.

It is obvious that the Christ came a sword to separate those that are His from the tares.

So eternity is like this moment for those eternal
as this moment becomes the next,

who do you serve?' something you have imagined?
like you imagine things unreal
that you have added and subtracted to even my words.

If so why should you even be considered if you are as your words,
like a gong ringing without reason?
wmMmw
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I don't believe the garden of eden was here on earth, it was in the spiritual realm, paradise.
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The garden of Eden was indeed on earth 38000 years ago. actually a bit more. It lies sunk in the eastern Mediterranean.

Paradise is not the spirit realm name. It is the origin of everything in the whole creation and located in the center of it. Lisa you will read the Urantia book or you will remain part of the problem of the dangerous Christianity to this world. You people are MIND CONTROLLED and NOT AT ALL OF JESUS generally in this terrible religion underwritten by the Luciferians themselves.

This is Candace
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Anything I post to "prove" what I say is true you will just say it's heresy like main stream "Christians" do.

I've given you the tools. It's much better if you make the discovery yourself. If I do the work for you there is no discovery.

I've shown a lot of evidence already.


'Woman' as used by God in Genesis 3

ish-shaw', naw-sheem'
The first form is the feminine of H376 or H582; the second form is an irregular plural; a woman (used in the same wide sense as H582).: - [adulter]ess, each, every, female, X many, + none, one, + together, wife, woman. Often unexpressed in English.

Are you going to keep saying that Eve was eating an apple?



'Beguiled'

naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce: - beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly.



'Touch'

naw-gah'
A primitive root; properly to touch, that is, lay the hand upon (for any purpose; euphemistically, to lie with a woman); by implication to reach (figuratively to arrive, acquire); violently, to strike (punish, defeat, destroy, etc.): - beat, (X be able to) bring (down), cast, come (nigh), draw near (nigh), get up, happen, join, near, plague, reach (up), smite, strike, touch.



'Eve'

khav-vaw'
Causative from H2331; lifegiver; Chavvah (or Eve), the first woman: - Eve.



So you will cling to main stream "Christianity" but at the same time you knock it saying that most Christians are lukewarm.

The Bible teaches us that nothing will be hidden and all will be revealed to those who have eyes to see. A lifting of the veil at the time of the end.

Apocalypse: apocalypse (Ancient Greek:meaning "uncovering"), translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™





All you did was translate words, in a way that supports your bias,

completely disregarding Gen 4 where it clearly states that Adam "knew"

Eve and she had gotten a man from the serpent?
No,
from the Lord.

Did eve "know" the serpent? No she was "beguiled"



You are very confused.

I am not Christian as I do not share a common belief in some part.


I did not say "most Christians are luke warm",

I did not say it was an apple.

If I did show us where,


prove it


or again your failure is obvious.

And rather than seek truth you continue down your path of obvious delusion.



Concerning Apocalypse

2 Thessalonians 2

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 Quoting: M1.618


The proof is within. You seek proof. I show you. You choose to ignore it.

Not much more I can do for you. It's up to you now.

I can show you proof all day but your eyes will remain closed.

This world is run by Satan. It's his realm. My eyes were closed like yours. But now they are fully open. I know the truth because I searched deep within in prayer. The truth has truly set me free from this world.

Satan has infected everything and made us to want things we don't need. He's infected everything from the school system to the White House.

His evil is in the food we eat and the clothes we wear.
You refuse to open your eyes to a very simple truth. A truth that will not harm you in any way.

All you can do is claim my beliefs are of the devil when I am exposing the devil himself for what he is.

Like I said. Some are not meant to see.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


What like your myths about how

I stated that the fruit was an apple?

Or that Christians are lukewarm?


You are clearly a liar or mistaken,
if mistaken you don't care to even admit it.


Your words as ideas are as good as dung,
in the light of truth when tested, examined.

It is not the analysis of the video that is false but the conclusion.


So even if my eyes are closed this is but your opinion and considering the source based on the history you have presented,

I would regard this conclusion with much suspicion.
 Quoting: M1.618


What's you function here?

Let's hear your truth. You claim to know the truth. Let's see it.

Prove YOUR truth!

OK. I'm done with you. I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to open people's minds. Your mind is closed and will not open so like I said, I cannot help you. There are plenty of other threads for you to troll.

Now leave me your red karma like I know you will and get off my thread.
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Actually I already gave you green,
and will leave your thread as you wish.

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But if you wish will leave you with one thought to ponder.
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you all talk about the "blind" people

HAHAHA now thats a hoot



the whole world is blind
if you believe any religion
you are blind


when ADAM and EVE came here
they did NOT want to eat the food from the earth
because they KNEW it would BIND them to this planet


and it did
after about 30 days they ate after resisting as long as they could

then their insides changed as they ate

they became mortal

now what does this tell you?
we are told we "inherit" everlasting life
and are given lifes water and the fruit of life

it is literally food and water from their planet

if you believe in a giant invisible wizard god
then YOU are the one who is BLIND


1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

1 Timothy 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.

2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44085320


You say that those with religion are blind yet you bring us your religion.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™

beings from another planet is not religion
the bible is not religion
nibiru is not religion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44085320


Wrong.
Science is a religion. Food and water from their planet? Maybe but I doubt it. It's not biblical anyway. Jesus is the living water. He is the Tree of Life. He is our salvation and soon, very soon he will be coming to get us.

The bible teaches us that we are adopted by God the Father. Our other father has abandoned us and doesn't care about us. In fact he hates us and wishes we were dead along with our souls.
Government...
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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All you did was translate words, in a way that supports your bias,

completely disregarding Gen 4 where it clearly states that Adam "knew"

Eve and she had gotten a man from the serpent?
No,
from the Lord.

Did eve "know" the serpent? No she was "beguiled"



You are very confused.

I am not Christian as I do not share a common belief in some part.


I did not say "most Christians are luke warm",

I did not say it was an apple.

If I did show us where,


prove it


or again your failure is obvious.

And rather than seek truth you continue down your path of obvious delusion.



Concerning Apocalypse

2 Thessalonians 2

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 Quoting: M1.618


The proof is within. You seek proof. I show you. You choose to ignore it.

Not much more I can do for you. It's up to you now.

I can show you proof all day but your eyes will remain closed.

This world is run by Satan. It's his realm. My eyes were closed like yours. But now they are fully open. I know the truth because I searched deep within in prayer. The truth has truly set me free from this world.

Satan has infected everything and made us to want things we don't need. He's infected everything from the school system to the White House.

His evil is in the food we eat and the clothes we wear.
You refuse to open your eyes to a very simple truth. A truth that will not harm you in any way.

All you can do is claim my beliefs are of the devil when I am exposing the devil himself for what he is.

Like I said. Some are not meant to see.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


What like your myths about how

I stated that the fruit was an apple?

Or that Christians are lukewarm?


You are clearly a liar or mistaken,
if mistaken you don't care to even admit it.


Your words as ideas are as good as dung,
in the light of truth when tested, examined.

It is not the analysis of the video that is false but the conclusion.


So even if my eyes are closed this is but your opinion and considering the source based on the history you have presented,

I would regard this conclusion with much suspicion.
 Quoting: M1.618


What's you function here?

Let's hear your truth. You claim to know the truth. Let's see it.

Prove YOUR truth!

OK. I'm done with you. I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to open people's minds. Your mind is closed and will not open so like I said, I cannot help you. There are plenty of other threads for you to troll.

Now leave me your red karma like I know you will and get off my thread.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™



OP. and what I am telling you is FACT.... Lucifer was removed 2000 years ago and Satan several hundred years ago Lucifer faced the tribunals of the Ancients of Days of Orvonton just last century.. mid 1900's He chose uncreation . He is NO MORE Satan faced the tribunals also and chose return to light service.

You people including YOU DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH. IT IS NOT IN YOUR BIBLE. ONLY BITS OF IT ARE IN THE BIBLE.

Satan was a servant of Lucifer . The satanic forces are still doing well on this planet and one reason they are still doing well is that you in Christianity are corrupted and serving them.
Most of you do not know what God is. I do know if you do. didn't read enough. Satan is also a greek word meaning adversary of God. ADversary of God is also called anti christ and this world is stuff full of them and they are in all religions .

The commercial sucked.. it was dark and I turned it off because I get up each and every day appalled by the continuing darkness on this world.

I have seen you here and I might review a bit of you.. but SATAN the being is NOT ON THIS WORLD.

As I said there are still plenty of satanists who from the total of the DARK ENERGY that is against the CREATION.
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This guy is such a windbag. I love his stuff but holy crap he likes to hear himself talk. Great info. Very relevant. 2 minutes of info spread out over 10 minutes of talking. He needs to be a little less self absorbed if he wants his stuff to be taken seriously by the masses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1157811


He gave his life to Christ. It wasn't easy for him to do as he was quite wealthy and had everything he ever wanted including a girl from the DuPont family on his arm. He gave it up for Jesus. He's not perfect. Being saved doesn't make you perfect. It makes you saved. He repeats himself often but he wants to get his message through. I do the same thing sometimes. It's tough being imperfect.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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you all talk about the "blind" people

HAHAHA now thats a hoot



the whole world is blind
if you believe any religion
you are blind


when ADAM and EVE came here
they did NOT want to eat the food from the earth
because they KNEW it would BIND them to this planet


and it did
after about 30 days they ate after resisting as long as they could

then their insides changed as they ate

they became mortal

now what does this tell you?
we are told we "inherit" everlasting life
and are given lifes water and the fruit of life

it is literally food and water from their planet

if you believe in a giant invisible wizard god
then YOU are the one who is BLIND


1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

1 Timothy 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.

2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44085320


You say that those with religion are blind yet you bring us your religion.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™

beings from another planet is not religion
the bible is not religion
nibiru is not religion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44085320


Wrong.
Science is a religion. Food and water from their planet? Maybe but I doubt it. It's not biblical anyway. Jesus is the living water. He is the Tree of Life. He is our salvation and soon, very soon he will be coming to get us.

The bible teaches us that we are adopted by God the Father. Our other father has abandoned us and doesn't care about us. In fact he hates us and wishes we were dead along with our souls.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™

it IS biblical

Revelation 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

water of life for FREE to ANYONE who wants it

rev 22:17 And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.


book of adam

8 "O Eve! remember the glory that rested on us in the garden. O Eve! remember the trees that overshadowed us in the garden while we moved among them.

9 "O Eve! remember that while we were in the garden, we knew neither night nor day.

while they were in garden they had a sun that never set

4 He wept then, and smote upon his breast, and fell upon the earth on his face, and made his request, saying:--

5 "O Lord, plague me not, neither consume me, nor yet take away my life from the earth."

6 For he thought the sun was God.
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Adam and EVE cam from a place where the sun never set
and they thought they SUN was GOD



now what does that tell you?


it was NOT earth
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i love his videos
he's got an eagle eye
good watchman
 Quoting: Salt


No Eve did not have sex with the serpent,

that is not biblical or makes any sense

(that she did is what the serpent wishes you to believe)

The video is bs and that dude is no watchman just a drama queen who should read the word and pray for understanding so he does not continue to sow confusion.
 Quoting: M1.618


Yep.

Some people need to read their bibles:

Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15863909


Some people need to get their concordances out and study what they're reading.

Yep.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™



You get a concordance AND a Bible.

Adam, not Satan, knew his wife Eve. Adam is the father of Cain.

Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.


food,H3978
H3978
מאכל
ma'ăkâl
mah-ak-awl'
From H398; an eatable (including provender, flesh and fruit): - food, fruit, ([bake-]) meat (-s), victual.

Eve saw that THE TREE was good for FOOD and ATE OF THE TREE.

Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

What did she eat? Eve ATE OF THE TREE. As explained in Gen 3:6

Also, there is no such thing as cross species mating. Not in the Bible and not in nature. It is science fiction. Just like this thread and that video you linked.

Exegesis, Eisegesis, and the Father of Cain
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