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It's Not About a Piece of Fruit! It's About The Twins!

 
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I suspect this is WHY we must be born again...


Something happened in the garden we do not quit understand.

Those 2 seeds still at war, but now I don't see how it could be physical, the seed that was evil physically died in the flood.

Now it must be a spiritual condition from Noahs sons or daughter in laws.
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Why would God forbid Adam to eat a piece of fruit? lmfao It wasn't an "apple". But how else would the author of those times describe the shape of the head of a penis? Take it step further, doesn't a limp penis look like a snake, moreso if it's not circumcised? Doesn't the hair surrounding the penis look like a bush? lol

I think Adam was told his penis was the tree of life and it was forbidden for it to be eaten. Now, when God created Eve, it was after Adam was given the commandment. She knew nothing about the commandment.

I don't think a snake had a conversation with Eve. I think she saw Adam's penis, (considering they were both nude). Maybe, she started playing with it, he became aroused and she started eating his apple. I'm guessing he ejaculated in her mouth, and then she convinced him to do the same to her.

That would explain how she believed she conceived twins. Think about Adam and Eve without an education, and lots of things make more sense.

No matter what the revelation you receive about the Garden of Eden or Adam and Eve is, none of it is important. What IS important is the fact that ADAM was DISOBEDIENT. God told Adam to take dominion over EVERY LIVING THING; but, he let his wife Eve dominate him, instead.

Adam could have put Eve in her place, at that very moment, and that would have been that. But, he listened to her voice, over God's commandment and that led to one brother killing another.
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in 1900 William Branham preached on this, he called it serpent seed....I believe him.
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The Babylonian Targum is like the Talmud.

OP is spreading Satanic Zionist lies.


Revelation 22

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.




Repent
 Quoting: M1.618


I'm a Zionist now?

Where do you think the Bible came from? The Targumim is older than the KJV by well over a thousand years. Do you think that scriptures that came after it just materialized out of the ether?

The Targumim was there before modern bibles. It was used while the Israelites were in captivity by the Babylonians. It wasn't only the Tribe of Judah in captivity. All the Tribes of Israel were in captivity. It just so happened that after their captivity the other tribes were never heard from again.
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Targumim: Exodus 1.1

AND these are the names of the sons of Israel who went into Mizraim with Jakob, each with the men of his house entered in: Reuben, Shimeon, Levi, and Jehudah; Issakar, Zebulon, and Benjamin; Dan and Naphtali; Gad and Asher. And the number of all the souls coming from the thigh of Jakob, seventy souls, with Joseph and his sons, who were in Mizraim.


KJV: Exodus 1:1

Exodus 1King James Version (KJV)

1 Now these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt; every man and his household came with Jacob.

2 Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah,

3 Issachar, Zebulun, and Benjamin,

4 Dan, and Naphtali, Gad, and Asher.

5 And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph was in Egypt already.
_________________

Do you see that they recount the same? That's because they are the same. Only the Targumim is much older.

People need to understand that the Jews are not Israel. That's like saying Utah is the United States of America.
I hope you understand this point because it's really important if you want to see the big picture.

The Jews want you to believe that nonsense that they are Israel. They are simply two tribes of 12. Judah, Benjamin and part of Levi. Did you know that the Jews were once at war with Israel? That's right. So how can the Jews be Israel if they were at war with all the other tribes of a united Israel? Do your own research and discover the truth.

Here's who created the modern nation/state of today's so called "Israel":

rothsstjer

We all sin so you should repent too. I really don't appreciate this uneducated post of yours. It would be nice if you would kindly remove it.

Thanks.

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Very interesting, kind of the book of Genesis "The Porno Version"....

BUT the serpent was not a snake, he looked just like adam, excedpt a little more on the animal side. This is why some refer to him as the missing link.

After Satan took advantage of the serpents desire (lust) to be like adam and eve, instead a just a worker in the field, he suggested the evil that was accomplished by satan in his body, this resulted in cain, the son of the evil one.

This is similar to what Jesus spoke to the religous leaders in his day. He told them they were of that evil one,and they replied "we were not born of fornication"



Why would God forbid Adam to eat a piece of fruit? lmfao It wasn't an "apple". But how else would the author of those times describe the shape of the head of a penis? Take it step further, doesn't a limp penis look like a snake, moreso if it's not circumcised? Doesn't the hair surrounding the penis look like a bush? lol

I think Adam was told his penis was the tree of life and it was forbidden for it to be eaten. Now, when God created Eve, it was after Adam was given the commandment. She knew nothing about the commandment.

I don't think a snake had a conversation with Eve. I think she saw Adam's penis, (considering they were both nude). Maybe, she started playing with it, he became aroused and she started eating his apple. I'm guessing he ejaculated in her mouth, and then she convinced him to do the same to her.

That would explain how she believed she conceived twins. Think about Adam and Eve without an education, and lots of things make more sense.

No matter what the revelation you receive about the Garden of Eden or Adam and Eve is, none of it is important. What IS important is the fact that ADAM was DISOBEDIENT. God told Adam to take dominion over EVERY LIVING THING; but, he let his wife Eve dominate him, instead.

Adam could have put Eve in her place, at that very moment, and that would have been that. But, he listened to her voice, over God's commandment and that led to one brother killing another.
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Don't you worry about those whom cannot see or hear O.P. hugs
All they can do is throw insults and show what their hearts hold inside.
I have enjoyed your threads very much. Thank you Beloved.

These are advanced truth's that only those with The Holy Spirit and whom are searching and studying can see and hear. Those whom are truly seeking truth. Those whom have been given new hearts and understanding. I had been shown all these symbols before and now I understand why and what I was being shown. The Holy Spirit confirms truth in me.

BTW- Candace has snuck into your thread as that snake always does.
Delete her nonsense and throw her out of your thread Sobriquet.
I'm SO tired of her strong delusions and the evil spirit she brings with her.
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Thanks for the support. It's truly appreciated.

hugs

No one takes Candace seriously. She helps in ways she can only guess at.
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Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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William Branham said the same thing years ago. There could be truth in it. The flood would have negated this though.
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The flood did not negate it. I don't know about Branham's version but I know that some versions of this are racist. The seed of the serpent has infected all people by now so it isn't in just one race. We all sin. So this teaching cannot be racist if we're all infected.

Noah was pure but the rest of the family were probably infected and at the least their wives were infected. The state of humanity had become so bad that God destroyed it.

Kinda like it is today.

Also there were giants before and after the flood. But I'm not sure if they count because they were said to be not human.

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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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God is not the author of confusion.

God is not the father of lies.

It was about disobedience.

Very simple, plain and clear.

But your father, the devil, wants to lead the world away from the truth.

You want to tickle the itching ears with a titillating tale.

But you are an occult liar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8097045


Interesting how you think you are a Christian but you attack your Christian brothers.

No, do your research and you will come to an understanding much closer to Jonathans's than your current world view given to you by the leaders of this world.

Jonathan's view explains the Old Testiment, your's does not and your view is a reason used by non believers to think God is evil because they see God kill so many in the Old Testament. Do you understand why God killed so many in the Old Testiment? If not, please, do more research and quit judging brothers in the faith.
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Thanks for this comment. They may not accept this belief but we are on the same team. This belief really doesn't affect anything really except it explains our state in a way nobody else could or would. They don't like it so they attack without any real cause to do so.
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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The carnal mind vs the spirit mind
Bear fruit for death vs bear fruit for God

Yet why is it you keep parading out flesh understanding of thousands of 'rabbis' who can understand nothing of the spirit ?
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The spirit mind has been set free and bears the first fruits of the repair of the breach from the fall.

john 8:36

A slave is not a permanent member of the family, but a son belongs to it forever.

So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
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Most people have not been taught that the flesh is ruled by Satan. Sunday school never mentions this stuff and if it were taught from the pulpits of most "churches" they would soon be out of business because folks would realize that the Kingdom of God is within and that each of us is a small stone in the temple. Jesus being the foundation stone.

There's no money in the truth.
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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The Babylonian Targum is like the Talmud.

OP is spreading Satanic Zionist lies.


Revelation 22

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.




Repent
 Quoting: M1.618


I'm a Zionist now?

Where do you think the Bible came from? The Targumim is older than the KJV by well over a thousand years. Do you think that scriptures that came after it just materialized out of the ether?

The Targumim was there before modern bibles. It was used while the Israelites were in captivity by the Babylonians. It wasn't only the Tribe of Judah in captivity. All the Tribes of Israel were in captivity. It just so happened that after their captivity the other tribes were never heard from again.
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Targumim: Exodus 1.1

AND these are the names of the sons of Israel who went into Mizraim with Jakob, each with the men of his house entered in: Reuben, Shimeon, Levi, and Jehudah; Issakar, Zebulon, and Benjamin; Dan and Naphtali; Gad and Asher. And the number of all the souls coming from the thigh of Jakob, seventy souls, with Joseph and his sons, who were in Mizraim.


KJV: Exodus 1:1

Exodus 1King James Version (KJV)

1 Now these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt; every man and his household came with Jacob.

2 Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah,

3 Issachar, Zebulun, and Benjamin,

4 Dan, and Naphtali, Gad, and Asher.

5 And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph was in Egypt already.
_________________

Do you see that they recount the same? That's because they are the same. Only the Targumim is much older.

People need to understand that the Jews are not Israel. That's like saying Utah is the United States of America.
I hope you understand this point because it's really important if you want to see the big picture.

The Jews want you to believe that nonsense that they are Israel. They are simply two tribes of 12. Judah, Benjamin and part of Levi. Did you know that the Jews were once at war with Israel? That's right. So how can the Jews be Israel if they were at war with all the other tribes of a united Israel? Do your own research and discover the truth.

Here's who created the modern nation/state of today's so called "Israel":

rothsstjer

We all sin so you should repent too. I really don't appreciate this uneducated post of yours. It would be nice if you would kindly remove it.

Thanks.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


The Torah.

The Babylonian Targum is not the Torah,
therefore not the Old Testament of the bible.

You & Kleck need to study.

And yes your understanding and insinuation that Adam / Eve
had sex with the serpent is satanic and you are held accountable
for your delusion.

So I will not remove my comment as it is the truth.
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God is not the author of confusion.

God is not the father of lies.

It was about disobedience.

Very simple, plain and clear.

But your father, the devil, wants to lead the world away from the truth.

You want to tickle the itching ears with a titillating tale.

But you are an occult liar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8097045


Interesting how you think you are a Christian but you attack your Christian brothers.

No, do your research and you will come to an understanding much closer to Jonathans's than your current world view given to you by the leaders of this world.

Jonathan's view explains the Old Testiment, your's does not and your view is a reason used by non believers to think God is evil because they see God kill so many in the Old Testament. Do you understand why God killed so many in the Old Testiment? If not, please, do more research and quit judging brothers in the faith.
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You lack understanding and discernment.

If the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil as the liars present,
did Adam have sex with the serpent as well?



What part about the fruit of the knowledge of good & evil that was consumed do you fail to understand?
 Quoting: M1.618


Adam "partook". However God only called out the woman as an adulteress. So you tell us exactly what you think the "fruit" was.

Are you saying that Adam was beyond having sex with an angel?

You and most "Christians" believe that it was a fruit. A real live plant fruit from a real live plant tree.

Is Jesus a real live plant tree with real live plant fruit like an apple or an orange? No. Yet Jesus is the Tree of Life.

Explain that please.
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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I explained previously.

It was the fruit of the tree of the "knowledge of good & evil"

so when they ate their eyes were opened and they

knew evil. Or cause and effect. Like the angels.

This world is the product of this knowledge and why humans manipulate as they understand cause and effect.

Interestingly after they ate man feared Eloihim for the first time etc.

The serpent like angels understood evil and seduced Eve who seduced Adam in breaking the order they were created in by giving them an understanding outside of their realm.
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God showed me the rotten fruit is anal sex.
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It's a possibility. With the state of our world today, a homo and a transgender in the White House it would not be too much to consider. It's just not something I care to think too much about. lol
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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I know not what you mean of plants and trees,

beyond the analogies used in the bible to explain human nature.

And Adam would have refused the serpent but not eve,

that is why the serpent chose eve, a part of Adam.

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I explained previously.

It was the fruit of the tree of the "knowledge of good & evil"

so when they ate their eyes were opened and they

knew evil. Or cause and effect. Like the angels.

This world is the product of this knowledge and why humans manipulate as they understand cause and effect.

Interestingly after they ate man feared Eloihim for the first time etc.

The serpent like angels understood evil and seduced Eve who seduced Adam in breaking the order they were created in by giving them an understanding outside of their realm.
 Quoting: M1.618


The problem is that you ignore the evidence that shows that these two trees are not plants. You also ignored my earlier post. So that means you like to ignore things.
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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I explained previously.

It was the fruit of the tree of the "knowledge of good & evil"

so when they ate their eyes were opened and they

knew evil. Or cause and effect. Like the angels.

This world is the product of this knowledge and why humans manipulate as they understand cause and effect.

Interestingly after they ate man feared Eloihim for the first time etc.

The serpent like angels understood evil and seduced Eve who seduced Adam in breaking the order they were created in by giving them an understanding outside of their realm.
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The problem is that you ignore the evidence that shows that these two trees are not plants. You also ignored my earlier post. So that means you like to ignore things.
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What earlier post?

the trees are not literal this is obvious unless one is daft.
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Now when we see a snake devour its own tail. What can we conclude?

Self-Consumption? Death?

Narcissism? Self-Annihilation?

EDIT: Ouroboros.

"The Ouroboros is an ancient symbol depicting a serpent or dragon eating its own tail. The name originates from within Greek language; (oura) meaning "tail" and (boros) meaning "eating", thus "he who eats the tail"."

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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Satan uses us for food until we are born again.
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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The Babylonian Targum is like the Talmud.

OP is spreading Satanic Zionist lies.


Revelation 22

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.




Repent
 Quoting: M1.618


I'm a Zionist now?

Where do you think the Bible came from? The Targumim is older than the KJV by well over a thousand years. Do you think that scriptures that came after it just materialized out of the ether?

The Targumim was there before modern bibles. It was used while the Israelites were in captivity by the Babylonians. It wasn't only the Tribe of Judah in captivity. All the Tribes of Israel were in captivity. It just so happened that after their captivity the other tribes were never heard from again.
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Targumim: Exodus 1.1

AND these are the names of the sons of Israel who went into Mizraim with Jakob, each with the men of his house entered in: Reuben, Shimeon, Levi, and Jehudah; Issakar, Zebulon, and Benjamin; Dan and Naphtali; Gad and Asher. And the number of all the souls coming from the thigh of Jakob, seventy souls, with Joseph and his sons, who were in Mizraim.


KJV: Exodus 1:1

Exodus 1King James Version (KJV)

1 Now these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt; every man and his household came with Jacob.

2 Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah,

3 Issachar, Zebulun, and Benjamin,

4 Dan, and Naphtali, Gad, and Asher.

5 And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph was in Egypt already.
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Do you see that they recount the same? That's because they are the same. Only the Targumim is much older.

People need to understand that the Jews are not Israel. That's like saying Utah is the United States of America.
I hope you understand this point because it's really important if you want to see the big picture.

The Jews want you to believe that nonsense that they are Israel. They are simply two tribes of 12. Judah, Benjamin and part of Levi. Did you know that the Jews were once at war with Israel? That's right. So how can the Jews be Israel if they were at war with all the other tribes of a united Israel? Do your own research and discover the truth.

Here's who created the modern nation/state of today's so called "Israel":

rothsstjer

We all sin so you should repent too. I really don't appreciate this uneducated post of yours. It would be nice if you would kindly remove it.

Thanks.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


I explained previously.

It was the fruit of the tree of the "knowledge of good & evil"

so when they ate their eyes were opened and they

knew evil. Or cause and effect. Like the angels.

This world is the product of this knowledge and why humans manipulate as they understand cause and effect.

Interestingly after they ate man feared Eloihim for the first time etc.

The serpent like angels understood evil and seduced Eve who seduced Adam in breaking the order they were created in by giving them an understanding outside of their realm.
 Quoting: M1.618


The problem is that you ignore the evidence that shows that these two trees are not plants. You also ignored my earlier post. So that means you like to ignore things.
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What earlier post?

the trees are not literal this is obvious unless one is daft.
 Quoting: M1.618


The one where you call me a Zionist. The one where I show you that Israel is not the Jews. The one where I post the map of Jerusalem showing who runs "Israel".

It is you that lacks understanding.
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The Torah.

The Babylonian Targum is not the Torah,
therefore not the Old Testament of the bible.

You & Kleck need to study.

And yes your understanding and insinuation that Adam / Eve
had sex with the serpent is satanic and you are held accountable
for your delusion.

So I will not remove my comment as it is the truth.



^ this was my reply.

Are/ were you unable to see it above?

You have some obvious issues.


A little learning is a dangerous thing.
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Jonathan Kleck is a false teacher:

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watch out Sobriquet.
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catwtftroll

Wow.

So the Archangel Michael himself anointed this guy, who is also apparently the spirit of a
fallen angel. Well that's... nice. I'm getting a bit weary of all this reptilian, occulty
stuff being mixed with Christianity.

(Though I also disagree with dockidd's assertion that the KJV is the only real version of
the Bible. What about, you know, the originals?)
 Quoting: d o o m h o r n


The story Jonathan tells may sound far fetched and unbelievable. It's a crazy sounding story. However, I've seen his testimony, he's not crazy and his story rings true. He gave up a lot do do this work. He had a boatload of money, a sunglasses company and his girlfriend was from the DuPont family. He had the money, the house, the cars, the drugs, the parties, the girls, etc... Then that all changed.

We all have the spirit of a fallen angel until we're saved.

Michael looked like a regular person in that alley where Jonathan got saved. It's best not to jump to conclusions until you know the whole story.
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We will all find out we had it wrong! Catholic or Protestant. But we must come together.
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Christians are stones in Jesus's Church. "Little rocks".
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Wow dude we are finally getting to the truth.

Scroll down on YouTube under that video to the comments section and read every word written by "crackerwv" he left two long very very revelant comments getting to the bottom of everything.
 Quoting: Who is Blue Fairy

The comment from YouTube:

Let's take it even a step further with the Satan being earthy governments. Short version. Jesus was born of the VIRGIN MARY or the VIRGIN or MARYTIME (Maritime) Law or the law of the sea. She was free of that law and Jesus was born free of it also or from God or the very idea of free will and the respect thereof. We all know government has zero respect for free will and uses force to impose on the people. Jesus walked on the water or the LAW OF THE SEA because he was above such manmade law since HE respected the free will of others and told others to Render unto SEA-CZAR what is SEACZAR's or the master of earthly authority and commerce or the exchange of goods to be FREE of such imposition. Then look in Washington how cute they think they are in showing their mockery of God by putting a giant penis statue in Washington D(i)C(k) right between the legs of VIRGIN-ia and MARY-land. A complete mockery of the freedom of those free of MARYTIME Law or the PIRATES CODE and those of the SKULL AND BONES society represented on their black flag. It's all around us right in our face.


Yep. That's it in a nutshell.

Mockery at every turn. And we are taught in our schools to respect that very same thing.

Wouldn't you know it....Federal School Districts!
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Mary was no virgin, Jesus had kids, genetically Related closest to Palestinians.
In the genesis they removed and changed massive amounts of information, exp: a woman named lilith that was Adams first woman but in the fable she was deceitful and chose to be the queen of the underworld. I don't buy into any religion but I do believe in historical facts.
With an already corrupt method of translations, there was only a handful of church deligates, that were chosen to pick and pull parts of the transcriptions to form what you call the bible today. Again not bashing your religion but facts are facts. We may never know what the true story's of the bible were.
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Facts are facts, so I'll quote a fable...
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we are virgins in the sense we follow no false gods on this earth, and have no idols in the face of the God Father of Truth, ever.
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Related closest to Palestinians?

really?

odd because this morning I found a silver chain with a Palestinian charm in the shape of it's country.

deja VU
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what is of particular interest to me is how this seems to be manifesting in modern days as described by science:

Junk dna as they call it, dna they cannot find a use for... what good is it? how did it get there?

Dna from foods, environment and medicines entering our systems, changing our dna

Dna tagging by law enforcement to identify people ... or maybe something else [link to www.selectadna.co.uk (secure)]

Our dna can be altered by events and emotions, as they send shocking and disturbing events our way daily...to alter our dna?

dna databases to identify people

all these are at least potentially if not actually evil, directed by whose hand?

it looks like they have been messing with our dna since the beginning.

trying to move humans toward the evil, to more easily corrupt them?

just my thoughts on it.... it is right here, right now
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100% truth. Science admits our DNA is very strange.

I find it very odd that the human species is the only species ill equipped for this planet. We cannot survive winters without heavy clothing or shelter with heat. Our skin burns easily from the sun. Very odd.
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"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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The Torah.

The Babylonian Targum is not the Torah,
therefore not the Old Testament of the bible.

You & Kleck need to study.

And yes your understanding and insinuation that Adam / Eve
had sex with the serpent is satanic and you are held accountable
for your delusion.

So I will not remove my comment as it is the truth.



^ this was my reply.

Are/ were you unable to see it above?

You have some obvious issues.


A little learning is a dangerous thing.
 Quoting: M1.618


You are a very rude person. You still won't answer my reply where I prove that the Jews fought Israel. So that leaves me to believe that you are not who you seem to be. I don't believe you are even a Christian and I question your motives.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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The Torah.

The Babylonian Targum is not the Torah,
therefore not the Old Testament of the bible.

You & Kleck need to study.

And yes your understanding and insinuation that Adam / Eve
had sex with the serpent is satanic and you are held accountable
for your delusion.

So I will not remove my comment as it is the truth.



^ this was my reply.

Are/ were you unable to see it above?

You have some obvious issues.


A little learning is a dangerous thing.
 Quoting: M1.618


You need to do more research. The Targumim is simply the Aramaic translation of the Books of Genesis through Deuteronomy.

It's the language Jesus spoke. He also spoke Hebrew and Greek.

Please stop with the rudeness. It's really not necessary.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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The Torah.

The Babylonian Targum is not the Torah,
therefore not the Old Testament of the bible.

You & Kleck need to study.

And yes your understanding and insinuation that Adam / Eve
had sex with the serpent is satanic and you are held accountable
for your delusion.

So I will not remove my comment as it is the truth.



^ this was my reply.

Are/ were you unable to see it above?

You have some obvious issues.


A little learning is a dangerous thing.
 Quoting: M1.618


You are a very rude person. You still won't answer my reply where I prove that the Jews fought Israel. So that leaves me to believe that you are not who you seem to be. I don't believe you are even a Christian and I question your motives.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Please I am of the lineage that has fought the synagogue of satan long
before you were born and understand who the true sons of Jacob are.

I told you before I am not Christian.

I have no motives but that the truth is not made perverse and the Lords will is done.


You do not recall me telling you I am not Christian?

You do not recall accusing me of things I did not say yesterday in your other thread about the same subject?

You did not see my response on this one?


Why
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Twins?

One was from adam (able)(child of GOD), the other was of adam (cain) (child of satan).
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The Torah.

The Babylonian Targum is not the Torah,
therefore not the Old Testament of the bible.

You & Kleck need to study.

And yes your understanding and insinuation that Adam / Eve
had sex with the serpent is satanic and you are held accountable
for your delusion.

So I will not remove my comment as it is the truth.



^ this was my reply.

Are/ were you unable to see it above?

You have some obvious issues.


A little learning is a dangerous thing.
 Quoting: M1.618


You need to do more research. The Targumim is simply the Aramaic translation of the Books of Genesis through Deuteronomy.

It's the language Jesus spoke. He also spoke Hebrew and Greek.

Please stop with the rudeness. It's really not necessary.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


It is "explanation" and "expansion" not translation as you and Kleck are saying. So it is not a simple translation Aramaic translation.

Therefore the added expansion to the Torah is bunk insinuating something false as does the Talmud and Zionist/ Satanic.



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The targumim (singular: "targum", Hebrew: תרגום‎‎) were spoken paraphrases, explanations and expansions of the Jewish scriptures (also called the Tanakh) that a Rabbi would give in the common language of the listeners, which was then often Aramaic. That had become necessary near the end of the 1st century BCE, as the common language was in transition and Hebrew was used for little more than schooling and worship.[1] Eventually, it became necessary to give explanations and paraphrases in the common language after the Hebrew scripture was read. The noun Targum is derived from early semitic quadriliteral root 'trgm', and the Akkadian term 'targummanu' refers to "translator, interpreter".[2] It occurs in the Hebrew Bible in Ezra 4:18 "The document which you sent us has been read in translation (Aramaic 'mepares') before me".[2] Besides denoting the translations of the Bible, the term Targum also denote the oral rendering of Bible lections in synagogue,[2] while the translator of the Bible was simply called as hammeturgem (he who translates). Other than the meaning "translate" the verb Tirgem also means "to explain".[2] The word Targum refers to "translation" and argumentation or "explanation".[2]
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The Torah.

The Babylonian Targum is not the Torah,
therefore not the Old Testament of the bible.

You & Kleck need to study.

And yes your understanding and insinuation that Adam / Eve
had sex with the serpent is satanic and you are held accountable
for your delusion.

So I will not remove my comment as it is the truth.



^ this was my reply.

Are/ were you unable to see it above?

You have some obvious issues.


A little learning is a dangerous thing.
 Quoting: M1.618


You are a very rude person. You still won't answer my reply where I prove that the Jews fought Israel. So that leaves me to believe that you are not who you seem to be. I don't believe you are even a Christian and I question your motives.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Please I am of the lineage that has fought the synagogue of satan long
before you were born and understand who the true sons of Jacob are.

I told you before I am not Christian.

I have no motives but that the truth is not made perverse and the Lords will is done.


You do not recall me telling you I am not Christian?

You do not recall accusing me of things I did not say yesterday in your other thread about the same subject?

You did not see my response on this one?


Why
 Quoting: M1.618


Answer my reply correctly.

I show you that the Jews are not Israel...no reply

I show you that the Rothschild cabal runs Israel...no reply

I show you that the Targumim is the translation of the language Jesus used...no reply.

You say you're not a Christian which means you don't believe that Christ is our savior. The King of kings.

Just what exactly are you besides one of the rudest persons on the internet?

You don't believe Jesus is the Messiah! Yet we are to believe your bs? You claim to be protecting the truth but Jesus is the truth...that you don't believe in.

lol

I won't remove your posts or ban you because I want everyone to see who you really are.

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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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The Torah.

The Babylonian Targum is not the Torah,
therefore not the Old Testament of the bible.

You & Kleck need to study.

And yes your understanding and insinuation that Adam / Eve
had sex with the serpent is satanic and you are held accountable
for your delusion.

So I will not remove my comment as it is the truth.



^ this was my reply.

Are/ were you unable to see it above?

You have some obvious issues.


A little learning is a dangerous thing.
 Quoting: M1.618


You need to do more research. The Targumim is simply the Aramaic translation of the Books of Genesis through Deuteronomy.

It's the language Jesus spoke. He also spoke Hebrew and Greek.

Please stop with the rudeness. It's really not necessary.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


It is "explanation" and "expansion" not translation as you and Kleck are saying. So it is not a simple translation Aramaic translation.

Therefore the added expansion to the Torah is bunk insinuating something false as does the Talmud and Zionist/ Satanic.



[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]


The targumim (singular: "targum", Hebrew: תרגום‎‎) were spoken paraphrases, explanations and expansions of the Jewish scriptures (also called the Tanakh) that a Rabbi would give in the common language of the listeners, which was then often Aramaic. That had become necessary near the end of the 1st century BCE, as the common language was in transition and Hebrew was used for little more than schooling and worship.[1] Eventually, it became necessary to give explanations and paraphrases in the common language after the Hebrew scripture was read. The noun Targum is derived from early semitic quadriliteral root 'trgm', and the Akkadian term 'targummanu' refers to "translator, interpreter".[2] It occurs in the Hebrew Bible in Ezra 4:18 "The document which you sent us has been read in translation (Aramaic 'mepares') before me".[2] Besides denoting the translations of the Bible, the term Targum also denote the oral rendering of Bible lections in synagogue,[2] while the translator of the Bible was simply called as hammeturgem (he who translates). Other than the meaning "translate" the verb Tirgem also means "to explain".[2] The word Targum refers to "translation" and argumentation or "explanation".[2]
 Quoting: M1.618


It's not an added expansion. It's the Aramaic translation.
It was read out loud for those who spoke Aramaic only.

Can't you read your own quote from wiki?

And you say I've got issues.

You're starting to look a bit silly now.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29





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