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It's Not About a Piece of Fruit! It's About The Twins!

 
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The Torah.

The Babylonian Targum is not the Torah,
therefore not the Old Testament of the bible.

You & Kleck need to study.

And yes your understanding and insinuation that Adam / Eve
had sex with the serpent is satanic and you are held accountable
for your delusion.

So I will not remove my comment as it is the truth.



^ this was my reply.

Are/ were you unable to see it above?

You have some obvious issues.


A little learning is a dangerous thing.
 Quoting: M1.618


You are a very rude person. You still won't answer my reply where I prove that the Jews fought Israel. So that leaves me to believe that you are not who you seem to be. I don't believe you are even a Christian and I question your motives.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Please I am of the lineage that has fought the synagogue of satan long
before you were born and understand who the true sons of Jacob are.

I told you before I am not Christian.

I have no motives but that the truth is not made perverse and the Lords will is done.


You do not recall me telling you I am not Christian?

You do not recall accusing me of things I did not say yesterday in your other thread about the same subject?

You did not see my response on this one?


Why
 Quoting: M1.618


Answer my reply correctly.

I show you that the Jews are not Israel...no reply

I show you that the Rothschild cabal runs Israel...no reply

I show you that the Targumim is the translation of the language Jesus used...no reply.

You claim say you're not a Christian which means you don't believe that Christ is our savior. The King of kings.

Just what exactly are you besides one of the rudest persons on the internet?

You don't believe Jesus is the Messiah! Yet we are to believe your bs? You claim to be protecting the truth but Jesus is the truth...that you don't believe in.

lol

I won't remove your posts or ban you because I want everyone to see who you really are.
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The progeny of Abraham that serves the Lord is Israel.

The Zionist (Synagoge of satan) runs the modern state of Israel as this modern world.

I proven what the Targum truly is and how you fail in using it as evidence.


Are clouds and foxes and stars Christians?
Yet they serve the Christ.


So do as you wish, old man.

Creation bears witness.
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You are a very rude person. You still won't answer my reply where I prove that the Jews fought Israel. So that leaves me to believe that you are not who you seem to be. I don't believe you are even a Christian and I question your motives.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Please I am of the lineage that has fought the synagogue of satan long
before you were born and understand who the true sons of Jacob are.

I told you before I am not Christian.

I have no motives but that the truth is not made perverse and the Lords will is done.


You do not recall me telling you I am not Christian?

You do not recall accusing me of things I did not say yesterday in your other thread about the same subject?

You did not see my response on this one?


Why
 Quoting: M1.618


Answer my reply correctly.

I show you that the Jews are not Israel...no reply

I show you that the Rothschild cabal runs Israel...no reply

I show you that the Targumim is the translation of the language Jesus used...no reply.

You claim say you're not a Christian which means you don't believe that Christ is our savior. The King of kings.

Just what exactly are you besides one of the rudest persons on the internet?

You don't believe Jesus is the Messiah! Yet we are to believe your bs? You claim to be protecting the truth but Jesus is the truth...that you don't believe in.

lol

I won't remove your posts or ban you because I want everyone to see who you really are.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


The progeny of Abraham that serves the Lord is Israel.

The Zionist (Synagoge of satan) runs the modern state of Israel as this modern world.

I proven what the Targum truly is and how you fail in using it as evidence.


Are clouds and foxes and stars Christians?
Yet they serve the Christ.


So do as you wish, old man.

Creation bears witness.
 Quoting: M1.618


You haven't proven anything except that the Targumim is a translation of the Books of Genesis through Deuteronomy in the Aramaic language.

You have failed badly. And your wiki quote proves it.

Why do you need to lie about it?
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The Torah.

The Babylonian Targum is not the Torah,
therefore not the Old Testament of the bible.

You & Kleck need to study.

And yes your understanding and insinuation that Adam / Eve
had sex with the serpent is satanic and you are held accountable
for your delusion.

So I will not remove my comment as it is the truth.



^ this was my reply.

Are/ were you unable to see it above?

You have some obvious issues.


A little learning is a dangerous thing.
 Quoting: M1.618


You need to do more research. The Targumim is simply the Aramaic translation of the Books of Genesis through Deuteronomy.

It's the language Jesus spoke. He also spoke Hebrew and Greek.

Please stop with the rudeness. It's really not necessary.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


It is "explanation" and "expansion" not translation as you and Kleck are saying. So it is not a simple translation Aramaic translation.

Therefore the added expansion to the Torah is bunk insinuating something false as does the Talmud and Zionist/ Satanic.



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The targumim (singular: "targum", Hebrew: תרגום‎‎) were spoken paraphrases, explanations and expansions of the Jewish scriptures (also called the Tanakh) that a Rabbi would give in the common language of the listeners, which was then often Aramaic. That had become necessary near the end of the 1st century BCE, as the common language was in transition and Hebrew was used for little more than schooling and worship.[1] Eventually, it became necessary to give explanations and paraphrases in the common language after the Hebrew scripture was read. The noun Targum is derived from early semitic quadriliteral root 'trgm', and the Akkadian term 'targummanu' refers to "translator, interpreter".[2] It occurs in the Hebrew Bible in Ezra 4:18 "The document which you sent us has been read in translation (Aramaic 'mepares') before me".[2] Besides denoting the translations of the Bible, the term Targum also denote the oral rendering of Bible lections in synagogue,[2] while the translator of the Bible was simply called as hammeturgem (he who translates). Other than the meaning "translate" the verb Tirgem also means "to explain".[2] The word Targum refers to "translation" and argumentation or "explanation".[2]
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It's not an added expansion. It's the Aramaic translation.
It was read out loud for those who spoke Aramaic only.

Can't you read your own quote from wiki?

And you say I've got issues.

You're starting to look a bit silly now.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™




"paraphrases, explanations and expansions"


Does not mean a translation

it's an interpretation beyond the original.
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Please can any others that understand English could you explain to the OP what he fails to see,

or correct me if I am wrong.
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It's like the Romon Catholic Church reading the gospel in Latin then explaining what it means in the common tongue to the people
do you understand OP???
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You need to do more research. The Targumim is simply the Aramaic translation of the Books of Genesis through Deuteronomy.

It's the language Jesus spoke. He also spoke Hebrew and Greek.

Please stop with the rudeness. It's really not necessary.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


It is "explanation" and "expansion" not translation as you and Kleck are saying. So it is not a simple translation Aramaic translation.

Therefore the added expansion to the Torah is bunk insinuating something false as does the Talmud and Zionist/ Satanic.



[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]


The targumim (singular: "targum", Hebrew: תרגום‎‎) were spoken paraphrases, explanations and expansions of the Jewish scriptures (also called the Tanakh) that a Rabbi would give in the common language of the listeners, which was then often Aramaic. That had become necessary near the end of the 1st century BCE, as the common language was in transition and Hebrew was used for little more than schooling and worship.[1] Eventually, it became necessary to give explanations and paraphrases in the common language after the Hebrew scripture was read. The noun Targum is derived from early semitic quadriliteral root 'trgm', and the Akkadian term 'targummanu' refers to "translator, interpreter".[2] It occurs in the Hebrew Bible in Ezra 4:18 "The document which you sent us has been read in translation (Aramaic 'mepares') before me".[2] Besides denoting the translations of the Bible, the term Targum also denote the oral rendering of Bible lections in synagogue,[2] while the translator of the Bible was simply called as hammeturgem (he who translates). Other than the meaning "translate" the verb Tirgem also means "to explain".[2] The word Targum refers to "translation" and argumentation or "explanation".[2]
 Quoting: M1.618


It's not an added expansion. It's the Aramaic translation.
It was read out loud for those who spoke Aramaic only.

Can't you read your own quote from wiki?

And you say I've got issues.

You're starting to look a bit silly now.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™




"paraphrases, explanations and expansions"


Does not mean a translation

it's an interpretation beyond the original.
 Quoting: M1.618


No.

"The word Targum refers to "translation" and argumentation or "explanation""

I showed you that it's practically a word for word translation.

It's just more than a mere translation. It has explanations too. Similar to footnotes and concordances.

Do you really think that stars and foxes serve the Lord? They don't even know the Lord exists. Those who know Jesus serve the Lord.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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It's like taking genesis 4 in Torah

4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

& twisting it into

Adam and Eve fornicating with the adversary.


Not a translation OP your logic fails.
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It is "explanation" and "expansion" not translation as you and Kleck are saying. So it is not a simple translation Aramaic translation.

Therefore the added expansion to the Torah is bunk insinuating something false as does the Talmud and Zionist/ Satanic.



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The targumim (singular: "targum", Hebrew: תרגום‎‎) were spoken paraphrases, explanations and expansions of the Jewish scriptures (also called the Tanakh) that a Rabbi would give in the common language of the listeners, which was then often Aramaic. That had become necessary near the end of the 1st century BCE, as the common language was in transition and Hebrew was used for little more than schooling and worship.[1] Eventually, it became necessary to give explanations and paraphrases in the common language after the Hebrew scripture was read. The noun Targum is derived from early semitic quadriliteral root 'trgm', and the Akkadian term 'targummanu' refers to "translator, interpreter".[2] It occurs in the Hebrew Bible in Ezra 4:18 "The document which you sent us has been read in translation (Aramaic 'mepares') before me".[2] Besides denoting the translations of the Bible, the term Targum also denote the oral rendering of Bible lections in synagogue,[2] while the translator of the Bible was simply called as hammeturgem (he who translates). Other than the meaning "translate" the verb Tirgem also means "to explain".[2] The word Targum refers to "translation" and argumentation or "explanation".[2]
 Quoting: M1.618


It's not an added expansion. It's the Aramaic translation.
It was read out loud for those who spoke Aramaic only.

Can't you read your own quote from wiki?

And you say I've got issues.

You're starting to look a bit silly now.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™




"paraphrases, explanations and expansions"


Does not mean a translation

it's an interpretation beyond the original.
 Quoting: M1.618


No.

"The word Targum refers to "translation" and argumentation or "explanation""

I showed you that it's practically a word for word translation.

It's just more than a mere translation. It has explanations too. Similar to footnotes and concordances.

Do you really think that stars and foxes serve the Lord? They don't even know the Lord exists. Those who know Jesus serve the Lord.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Of course they serve the Lord as do the sticks and stones,
All things serve the Lord, as slaves, servants or sons,
& all things in their way know the Christ if they know the Lord,
as they are one & the same.

you really need to read the bible if you claim to serve the Christ,
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It's like taking genesis 4 in Torah

4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

& twisting it into

Adam and Eve fornicating with the adversary.


Not a translation OP your logic fails.
 Quoting: M1.618


We'll have to agree to disagree. That's all I can tell you.

50% rule:

Aramaic translation of Nevi'im

A Targum (plural: targumim) is an Aramaic translation of the Hebrew Bible written or compiled in the land of Israel, or in Babylonia, from the Second Temple period until the early Middle Ages (late first millennium).

According to the Talmud, the Targum on Nevi'im was composed by Jonathan ben Uzziel. Like Targum Onkelos on the Torah, Targum Jonathan is an eastern (Babylonian) Targum with early origins in the west (Land of Israel).

Like the Targum to the Torah, Targum Jonathan to Nevi'im served a formal liturgical purpose: it was read alternately, verse by verse, in the public reading of the Haftarah and in the study of Nevi'im.

Yemenite Jews continue the above tradition to this day, and have thus preserved a living tradition of the Babylonian vocalization for the Targum to Nevi'im.

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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

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And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

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Branham definately NOT a racist, he loved black folks. It was not about race with branham, it was about seed. Seed of adam (son of God) seed of satan (son as in cain)



William Branham said the same thing years ago. There could be truth in it. The flood would have negated this though.
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The flood did not negate it. I don't know about Branham's version but I know that some versions of this are racist. The seed of the serpent has infected all people by now so it isn't in just one race. We all sin. So this teaching cannot be racist if we're all infected.

Noah was pure but the rest of the family were probably infected and at the least their wives were infected. The state of humanity had become so bad that God destroyed it.

Kinda like it is today.

Also there were giants before and after the flood. But I'm not sure if they count because they were said to be not human.
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Adam did not have sex with an angel, he had fleshly sex with Eve after they copied what they saw the serpent did with eve.





What part about the fruit of the knowledge of good & evil that was consumed do you fail to understand?
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Adam "partook". However God only called out the woman as an adulteress. So you tell us exactly what you think the "fruit" was.

Are you saying that Adam was beyond having sex with an angel?

You and most "Christians" believe that it was a fruit. A real live plant fruit from a real live plant tree.

Is Jesus a real live plant tree with real live plant fruit like an apple or an orange? No. Yet Jesus is the Tree of Life.

Explain that please.
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Abel and Cain were twins from different fathers


Paul refers to this adultery in the NT as does Jesus with the religous leaders when they claim we have one father even abraham, and we were not born of fornication as in the beginning which is what Jesus states.
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From the Hebrew bible (from Torah) from base source.

Genesis Chapter 4

1 And the man knew Eve his wife; and she conceived and bore Cain, and said: 'I have gotten a man with the help of the LORD

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You can disagree all you want but it's obvious that whatever translation you are using is a lie and insinuates something that has been fabricated.

As this is the original source.
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also Cain the elder son, not mentioned in Jesus linage, but Able is
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Abel and Cain were twins from different fathers


Paul refers to this adultery in the NT as does Jesus with the religous leaders when they claim we have one father even abraham, and we were not born of fornication as in the beginning which is what Jesus states.

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Can you provide this scripture?
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It's not an added expansion. It's the Aramaic translation.
It was read out loud for those who spoke Aramaic only.

Can't you read your own quote from wiki?

And you say I've got issues.

You're starting to look a bit silly now.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™




"paraphrases, explanations and expansions"


Does not mean a translation

it's an interpretation beyond the original.
 Quoting: M1.618


No.

"The word Targum refers to "translation" and argumentation or "explanation""

I showed you that it's practically a word for word translation.

It's just more than a mere translation. It has explanations too. Similar to footnotes and concordances.

Do you really think that stars and foxes serve the Lord? They don't even know the Lord exists. Those who know Jesus serve the Lord.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Of course they serve the Lord as do the sticks and stones,
All things serve the Lord, as slaves, servants or sons,
& all things in their way know the Christ if they know the Lord,
as they are one & the same.

you really need to read the bible if you claim to serve the Christ,
 Quoting: M1.618


I read the Bible. I think I have a far better understanding of it than you do.

I'll follow your lead then and start name calling. I'll use words like Zionist (without cause) and retard when I speak to everyone and claim I'm a servant of God like you do when I use those terms. I'll be abusive and mean spirited while I tell everyone that I serve the Lord.

"I'm a servant of God you Zionist retard."

Yeah, that will work.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Branham definately NOT a racist, he loved black folks. It was not about race with branham, it was about seed. Seed of adam (son of God) seed of satan (son as in cain)



William Branham said the same thing years ago. There could be truth in it. The flood would have negated this though.
 Quoting: bigD111


The flood did not negate it. I don't know about Branham's version but I know that some versions of this are racist. The seed of the serpent has infected all people by now so it isn't in just one race. We all sin. So this teaching cannot be racist if we're all infected.

Noah was pure but the rest of the family were probably infected and at the least their wives were infected. The state of humanity had become so bad that God destroyed it.

Kinda like it is today.

Also there were giants before and after the flood. But I'm not sure if they count because they were said to be not human.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10103926


That's good to know. Thanks.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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also Cain the elder son, not mentioned in Jesus linage, but Able is
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Nor is Esau, but Jacob as there was a loss of birthright.
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"paraphrases, explanations and expansions"


Does not mean a translation

it's an interpretation beyond the original.
 Quoting: M1.618


No.

"The word Targum refers to "translation" and argumentation or "explanation""

I showed you that it's practically a word for word translation.

It's just more than a mere translation. It has explanations too. Similar to footnotes and concordances.

Do you really think that stars and foxes serve the Lord? They don't even know the Lord exists. Those who know Jesus serve the Lord.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Of course they serve the Lord as do the sticks and stones,
All things serve the Lord, as slaves, servants or sons,
& all things in their way know the Christ if they know the Lord,
as they are one & the same.

you really need to read the bible if you claim to serve the Christ,
 Quoting: M1.618


I read the Bible. I think I have a far better understanding of it than you do.

I'll follow your lead then and start name calling. I'll use words like Zionist (without cause) and retard when I speak to everyone and claim I'm a servant of God like you do when I use those terms. I'll be abusive and mean spirited while I tell everyone that I serve the Lord.

"I'm a servant of God you Zionist retard."

Yeah, that will work.
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I call it like it is, yes that Eve fornicated with the adversary is docterine from the synagogue of Satan and is retarded Zionist lies.

I don't care what you think of me or that I am mean as I tell you strait up to question what you believe, understanding it so that you don't mislead others, as you are held accountable.

hf
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No.

"The word Targum refers to "translation" and argumentation or "explanation""

I showed you that it's practically a word for word translation.

It's just more than a mere translation. It has explanations too. Similar to footnotes and concordances.

Do you really think that stars and foxes serve the Lord? They don't even know the Lord exists. Those who know Jesus serve the Lord.
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Of course they serve the Lord as do the sticks and stones,
All things serve the Lord, as slaves, servants or sons,
& all things in their way know the Christ if they know the Lord,
as they are one & the same.

you really need to read the bible if you claim to serve the Christ,
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I read the Bible. I think I have a far better understanding of it than you do.

I'll follow your lead then and start name calling. I'll use words like Zionist (without cause) and retard when I speak to everyone and claim I'm a servant of God like you do when I use those terms. I'll be abusive and mean spirited while I tell everyone that I serve the Lord.

"I'm a servant of God you Zionist retard."

Yeah, that will work.
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I call it like it is, yes that Eve fornicated with the adversary is docterine from the synagogue of Satan and is retarded Zionist lies.

I don't care what you think of me or that I am mean as I tell you strait up to question what you believe, understanding it so that you don't mislead others, as you are held accountable.

hf
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Perhaps in your great biblical wisdom you could explain God's punishment for Eve's disobedience.

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. - Genesis 3:15-16

Shouldn't the punishment have been more like a severe toothache?

Do animals have such birth pains?
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Genesis 4

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?

10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;



Clearly it is explained how both brothers brought sacrifice to the Lord.
Cains was not accepted as his heart was not right

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.


10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;


If he was the son of the serpent why would he bring sacrifice to the Lord?

Cain was cursed after he slew his brother.
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Of course they serve the Lord as do the sticks and stones,
All things serve the Lord, as slaves, servants or sons,
& all things in their way know the Christ if they know the Lord,
as they are one & the same.

you really need to read the bible if you claim to serve the Christ,
 Quoting: M1.618


I read the Bible. I think I have a far better understanding of it than you do.

I'll follow your lead then and start name calling. I'll use words like Zionist (without cause) and retard when I speak to everyone and claim I'm a servant of God like you do when I use those terms. I'll be abusive and mean spirited while I tell everyone that I serve the Lord.

"I'm a servant of God you Zionist retard."

Yeah, that will work.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


I call it like it is, yes that Eve fornicated with the adversary is docterine from the synagogue of Satan and is retarded Zionist lies.

I don't care what you think of me or that I am mean as I tell you strait up to question what you believe, understanding it so that you don't mislead others, as you are held accountable.

hf
 Quoting: M1.618


Perhaps in your great biblical wisdom you could explain God's punishment for Eve's disobedience.

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. - Genesis 3:15-16

Shouldn't the punishment have been more like a severe toothache?

Do animals have such birth pains?
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The "punishment" was exile from the garden for a time until the knowledge of good and evil no longer mattered, with the knowledge of the Christ.

The woman in the world outside of the garden became the weaker sex.

The serpents seed bruises the heel and the woman's seed (the Christ)
the serpents head.

It wasn't "punishment" it was more like discipline, their is pain during birth but the child is far greater than the pain.

I am not certain about "animals" a mammal is different than a microbe.
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It's like taking genesis 4 in Torah

4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

& twisting it into

Adam and Eve fornicating with the adversary.


Not a translation OP your logic fails.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. That's all I can tell you.

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Aramaic translation of Nevi'im

A Targum (plural: targumim) is an Aramaic translation of the Hebrew Bible written or compiled in the land of Israel, or in Babylonia, from the Second Temple period until the early Middle Ages (late first millennium).

According to the Talmud, the Targum on Nevi'im was composed by Jonathan ben Uzziel. Like Targum Onkelos on the Torah, Targum Jonathan is an eastern (Babylonian) Targum with early origins in the west (Land of Israel).

Like the Targum to the Torah, Targum Jonathan to Nevi'im served a formal liturgical purpose: it was read alternately, verse by verse, in the public reading of the Haftarah and in the study of Nevi'im.

Yemenite Jews continue the above tradition to this day, and have thus preserved a living tradition of the Babylonian vocalization for the Targum to Nevi'im.

[link to www.newworldencyclopedia.org]
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Clearly you are stubborn and are justifying yourself listening to 'rabbis' explanations of what verses mean.
In other words, you are content to believe them, not God.

Catholicism - it's priests tell the whole church that verse x means y.
All become united under y, not x.

Targum - it's rabbis tell the whole congregation that verse x means y. All become united under y, not x.

Etc etc etc.

The entire Targums are explanations and interpretations of scripture. The people listening to them become united under those explanations and interpretations, not under what God actually says and means.

But here you are saying 'it's ok to disagree'

CLEARLY NOT. NOT WHEM THEY'VE MADE YOU THEIR CONVERT ALREADY.
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I'm still reading about this topic on The Open Scroll. His study of the subject of who was Cains father is pretty compelling.

After "eating" from the tree, if it was just a fruit, then why would Adam and Eve feel the need to cover their loins (how humans procreate) with fig leaves? It does seem to be a sexual fall.
So, if this show teach you anything, it should teach you how to respek everyone: animals, children, bitches, spazmos, mingers, lezzers, fatty boombahs, and even gaylords. So, to all you lot watching this, but mainly to the normal people, respek. West side.
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Like twin peaks and the twin towers?
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I'm still reading about this topic on The Open Scroll. His study of the subject of who was Cains father is pretty compelling.

After "eating" from the tree, if it was just a fruit, then why would Adam and Eve feel the need to cover their loins (how humans procreate) with fig leaves? It does seem to be a sexual fall.
 Quoting: Lorac_az


Because they never knew "naked" before eating of the fruit of

the knowledge of good and evil

and they hid from G~d as for the first time their eyes were opened to who

He is.
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As we speak they are progressing once more towards the naked state
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For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. 4The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.
5We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and
we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

6And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete.

3But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.


Agreeing to disagree is your conclusion of the matter? Clearly you like these strongholds (arguments and pretensions that set themselves up against the knowledge of God) given to you by these jewish 'rabbis',
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I'm still reading about this topic on The Open Scroll. His study of the subject of who was Cains father is pretty compelling.

After "eating" from the tree, if it was just a fruit, then why would Adam and Eve feel the need to cover their loins (how humans procreate) with fig leaves? It does seem to be a sexual fall.
 Quoting: Lorac_az


Because they never knew "naked" before eating of the fruit of

the knowledge of good and evil

and they hid from G~d as for the first time their eyes were opened to who

He is.
 Quoting: M1.618


That doesn't really make a tin of sense if you really think about it. Why cover just the loins? Why not more of the naked body? Just the reproductive organs?
So, if this show teach you anything, it should teach you how to respek everyone: animals, children, bitches, spazmos, mingers, lezzers, fatty boombahs, and even gaylords. So, to all you lot watching this, but mainly to the normal people, respek. West side.
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I'm still reading about this topic on The Open Scroll. His study of the subject of who was Cains father is pretty compelling.

After "eating" from the tree, if it was just a fruit, then why would Adam and Eve feel the need to cover their loins (how humans procreate) with fig leaves? It does seem to be a sexual fall.
 Quoting: Lorac_az


Because they never knew "naked" before eating of the fruit of

the knowledge of good and evil

and they hid from G~d as for the first time their eyes were opened to who

He is.
 Quoting: M1.618


Just no.

My God people.
Man has two other loins,
His mind.
His heart.
We are warned 100000000000 times in scripture about being deceived, accepting another gospel, listening to liars, heresies, blind guides .
I fear THAT JUST AS EVE WAS DECIEVED SO TOO YOUR MINDS MAY BE LED ASTRAY

IS THE TRUTH NOT IMPORTANT TO ANYONE.?
Do all these jewish fables, myths, rotten fleshly interpretations really please you that you'd throw out the truth?

Has the latest jewish rabbi written episode of the walking dead with its Rick, michone, sex, an apple and 'Jesus' had its intended effect of making you their converts?! Clearly the world has no clue what they are ingesting in the form of nightly programming

THEIR EYE WAS NOT OPENED
THE ROOT WORD INDICATES IT WAS ACTUALLY CLOSED

When the law came, sin sprang up and I DIED

WHAT IS THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL.?
What is the strength of sin?
I would NOT HAVE KNOWN WHAT COVETING WAS EXCEPT FOR WHAT,?





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