It's Not About a Piece of Fruit! It's About The Twins!

The progeny of Abraham that serves the Lord is Israel.

The Zionist (Synagoge of satan) runs the modern state of Israel as this modern world.

I proven what the Targum truly is and how you fail in using it as evidence.


Are clouds and foxes and stars Christians?
Yet they serve the Christ.


So do as you wish, old man.

Creation bears witness.

You haven't proven anything except that the Targumim is a translation of the Books of Genesis through Deuteronomy in the Aramaic language.

You have failed badly. And your wiki quote proves it.

Why do you need to lie about it?

"paraphrases, explanations and expansions"


Does not mean a translation

it's an interpretation beyond the original.

Please can any others that understand English could you explain to the OP what he fails to see,

or correct me if I am wrong.

It's like the Romon Catholic Church reading the gospel in Latin then explaining what it means in the common tongue to the people
do you understand OP???

No.

"The word Targum refers to "translation" and argumentation or "explanation""

I showed you that it's practically a word for word translation.

It's just more than a mere translation. It has explanations too. Similar to footnotes and concordances.

Do you really think that stars and foxes serve the Lord? They don't even know the Lord exists. Those who know Jesus serve the Lord.

It's like taking genesis 4 in Torah

4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

& twisting it into

Adam and Eve fornicating with the adversary.


Not a translation OP your logic fails.

Of course they serve the Lord as do the sticks and stones,
All things serve the Lord, as slaves, servants or sons,
& all things in their way know the Christ if they know the Lord,
as they are one & the same.

you really need to read the bible if you claim to serve the Christ,

We'll have to agree to disagree. That's all I can tell you.

50% rule:

Aramaic translation of Nevi'im

A Targum (plural: targumim) is an Aramaic translation of the Hebrew Bible written or compiled in the land of Israel, or in Babylonia, from the Second Temple period until the early Middle Ages (late first millennium).

According to the Talmud, the Targum on Nevi'im was composed by Jonathan ben Uzziel. Like Targum Onkelos on the Torah, Targum Jonathan is an eastern (Babylonian) Targum with early origins in the west (Land of Israel).

Like the Targum to the Torah, Targum Jonathan to Nevi'im served a formal liturgical purpose: it was read alternately, verse by verse, in the public reading of the Haftarah and in the study of Nevi'im.

Yemenite Jews continue the above tradition to this day, and have thus preserved a living tradition of the Babylonian vocalization for the Targum to Nevi'im.

[link to www.newworldencyclopedia.org]

From the Hebrew bible (from Torah) from base source.

Genesis Chapter 4

1 And the man knew Eve his wife; and she conceived and bore Cain, and said: 'I have gotten a man with the help of the LORD

[link to www.mechon-mamre.org]


You can disagree all you want but it's obvious that whatever translation you are using is a lie and insinuates something that has been fabricated.

As this is the original source.

Can you provide this scripture?

I read the Bible. I think I have a far better understanding of it than you do.

I'll follow your lead then and start name calling. I'll use words like Zionist (without cause) and retard when I speak to everyone and claim I'm a servant of God like you do when I use those terms. I'll be abusive and mean spirited while I tell everyone that I serve the Lord.

"I'm a servant of God you Zionist retard."

Yeah, that will work.

That's good to know. Thanks.

Nor is Esau, but Jacob as there was a loss of birthright.

I call it like it is, yes that Eve fornicated with the adversary is docterine from the synagogue of Satan and is retarded Zionist lies.

I don't care what you think of me or that I am mean as I tell you strait up to question what you believe, understanding it so that you don't mislead others, as you are held accountable.

Perhaps in your great biblical wisdom you could explain God's punishment for Eve's disobedience.

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. - Genesis 3:15-16

Shouldn't the punishment have been more like a severe toothache?

Do animals have such birth pains?

Genesis 4

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?

10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;



Clearly it is explained how both brothers brought sacrifice to the Lord.
Cains was not accepted as his heart was not right

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.


10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;


If he was the son of the serpent why would he bring sacrifice to the Lord?

Cain was cursed after he slew his brother.

The "punishment" was exile from the garden for a time until the knowledge of good and evil no longer mattered, with the knowledge of the Christ.

The woman in the world outside of the garden became the weaker sex.

The serpents seed bruises the heel and the woman's seed (the Christ)
the serpents head.

It wasn't "punishment" it was more like discipline, their is pain during birth but the child is far greater than the pain.

I am not certain about "animals" a mammal is different than a microbe.

Clearly you are stubborn and are justifying yourself listening to 'rabbis' explanations of what verses mean.
In other words, you are content to believe them, not God.

Catholicism - it's priests tell the whole church that verse x means y.
All become united under y, not x.

Targum - it's rabbis tell the whole congregation that verse x means y. All become united under y, not x.

Etc etc etc.

The entire Targums are explanations and interpretations of scripture. The people listening to them become united under those explanations and interpretations, not under what God actually says and means.

But here you are saying 'it's ok to disagree'

CLEARLY NOT. NOT WHEM THEY'VE MADE YOU THEIR CONVERT ALREADY.

I'm still reading about this topic on The Open Scroll. His study of the subject of who was Cains father is pretty compelling.

After "eating" from the tree, if it was just a fruit, then why would Adam and Eve feel the need to cover their loins (how humans procreate) with fig leaves? It does seem to be a sexual fall.

Like twin peaks and the twin towers?

Because they never knew "naked" before eating of the fruit of

the knowledge of good and evil

and they hid from G~d as for the first time their eyes were opened to who

He is.

As we speak they are progressing once more towards the naked state

For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. 4The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.
5We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and
we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.
6And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete.

3But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.


Agreeing to disagree is your conclusion of the matter? Clearly you like these strongholds (arguments and pretensions that set themselves up against the knowledge of God) given to you by these jewish 'rabbis',

That doesn't really make a tin of sense if you really think about it. Why cover just the loins? Why not more of the naked body? Just the reproductive organs?

Just no.

My God people.
Man has two other loins,
His mind.
His heart.
We are warned 100000000000 times in scripture about being deceived, accepting another gospel, listening to liars, heresies, blind guides .
I fear THAT JUST AS EVE WAS DECIEVED SO TOO YOUR MINDS MAY BE LED ASTRAY

IS THE TRUTH NOT IMPORTANT TO ANYONE.?
Do all these jewish fables, myths, rotten fleshly interpretations really please you that you'd throw out the truth?

Has the latest jewish rabbi written episode of the walking dead with its Rick, michone, sex, an apple and 'Jesus' had its intended effect of making you their converts?! Clearly the world has no clue what they are ingesting in the form of nightly programming

THEIR EYE WAS NOT OPENED
THE ROOT WORD INDICATES IT WAS ACTUALLY CLOSED

When the law came, sin sprang up and I DIED

WHAT IS THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL.?
What is the strength of sin?
I would NOT HAVE KNOWN WHAT COVETING WAS EXCEPT FOR WHAT,?