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Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?

 
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Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Anyone else noticed this?

Google a world map and check it out:

I'm pretty sure Australia used to be much further south, way off by itself, except for New Zealand, which was pretty much due east, not way down near the bottom like it is now.

And NZ was in a more upright position, not laying on its side.

Also, look at how close Australia is now to that large island to the north--is that Borneo? Looks like the width of the English Channel is all that separates them. Like you could almost swim across. That seems all wrong!

Does anyone agree?

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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Anyone else noticed this?

Google a world map and check it out:

I'm pretty sure Australia used to be much further south, way off by itself, except for New Zealand, which was pretty much due east, not way down near the bottom like it is now.

And NZ was in a more upright position, not laying on its side.

Also, look at how close Australia is now to that large island to the north--is that Borneo? Looks like the width of the English Channel is all that separates them. Like you could almost swim across. That seems all wrong!

Does anyone agree?
 Quoting: AwakeDreamer


Yes. It's kinda disturbing.

South America is way too far east, also.
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The Panama Canal runs North to South like from 11 o'clock to 5 o'clock now because South America is so far East.

The whole of the bottom of Central America has moved accordingly.

Take a look for your self.
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Sounds like you guys should have spent more time paying attention in elementary school geography and less time sitting at your desk wondering if jet fuel can melt steel beams.
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Anyone else noticed this?

Google a world map and check it out:

I'm pretty sure Australia used to be much further south, way off by itself, except for New Zealand, which was pretty much due east, not way down near the bottom like it is now.

And NZ was in a more upright position, not laying on its side.

Also, look at how close Australia is now to that large island to the north--is that Borneo? Looks like the width of the English Channel is all that separates them. Like you could almost swim across. That seems all wrong!

Does anyone agree?
 Quoting: AwakeDreamer


Yes. It's kinda disturbing.

South America is way too far east, also.
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I noticed that too.
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
The Panama Canal runs North to South like from 11 o'clock to 5 o'clock now because South America is so far East.

The whole of the bottom of Central America has moved accordingly.

Take a look for your self.
 Quoting: Battlehorse


Yes, absolutely. So weird. I wonder if there are other land mass changes.
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Sounds like you guys should have spent more time paying attention in elementary school geography and less time sitting at your desk wondering if jet fuel can melt steel beams.
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Hahahahaha! When I was in elementary school Eisenhower was President. And believe me, the maps were different.
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Anyone from Down Under, any Kiwis out there want to comment? Have your countries always been located where the maps say they are now?

Especially, does that northern Australian Peninsula almost touch the large island directly north of it (I think that's New Guinea/Borneo)?
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Honestly have been thinking that for the last week. New Zealand used to be located higher up towards Queensland and New South Wales as now it appears lower than Tasmania. I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this seriously what the fuck is going on ?
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Looks the same to me. Auckland is always pretty much level with Sydney. On checking google earth it looks the same today.
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Honestly have been thinking that for the last week. New Zealand used to be located higher up towards Queensland and New South Wales as now it appears lower than Tasmania. I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this seriously what the fuck is going on ?
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Yep that was the first thing I noticed a few years ago.

Look at Japan it's a friking 1000 miles too far north!

I was not like that when I noticed New Zealand was out of place about a couple of years ago.

I Flew into Inchon Korea in 2012 and the beginning of 2016 and i mapped out the whole flight when i got home both times just because i was impressed with how far modern aviation has advanced. Japan was off the coast of China till a few months ago.

I Also flew into japan in 2001 got to look at Mt Fuji and it was off the coast of China then too.

Also went to China too in 2001 ...Mongolia showed up around then too,but i think that was political as understand.

In the 2012-2016 trips i flew over Canada as well and there was no thing called James Bay there then.

Nor was the Bering straight only 50 miles from Russia and the coast like of Alaska was flat mostly.

New Zealand Moved a few years ago,but just recently the was a complete change in geography in the world,just look around.
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Anyone else noticed this?

Google a world map and check it out:

I'm pretty sure Australia used to be much further south, way off by itself, except for New Zealand, which was pretty much due east, not way down near the bottom like it is now.

And NZ was in a more upright position, not laying on its side.

Also, look at how close Australia is now to that large island to the north--is that Borneo? Looks like the width of the English Channel is all that separates them. Like you could almost swim across. That seems all wrong!

Does anyone agree?
 Quoting: AwakeDreamer


I consider myself more geographically savvy than many. I have no doubt these changes you mentioned have occurred. I have been trying to figure out how these changes are occurring for 2 years now.

There is truly something strange going on. Don't let the naysayers cause you to doubt your memories. These changes are not a result of faulty memory or a lousy understanding of geography. Well maybe in some cases but for the most part this is a legit phenomenon.

The people that argue against it calling us idiots etc just don't understand how positive we are about our memories. These are the people who are native to this timeline or, and this is what I believe, are people whose memories are reprogrammed instantaneously to fit the new reality in the simulation and those people do not recall the originally because to them it never existed. It's almost like this simulation picks a sample of people, especially those closely tied to a change such as the citizens of NZ and Australia, and reprograms their memoires to fit the changes. The system might not have the power to alter everyone's memories. This is my theory. Seems like they are trying to slowly work the simulation theory into mainstream science with Elon Musk and Neil Degrasse basically saying chances are good this is a sim.
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Can't say I've ever noticed, I only see that part of my globe after I fall down drunk.
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Anyone else noticed this?

Google a world map and check it out:

I'm pretty sure Australia used to be much further south, way off by itself, except for New Zealand, which was pretty much due east, not way down near the bottom like it is now.

And NZ was in a more upright position, not laying on its side.

Also, look at how close Australia is now to that large island to the north--is that Borneo? Looks like the width of the English Channel is all that separates them. Like you could almost swim across. That seems all wrong!

Does anyone agree?
 Quoting: AwakeDreamer


Agreed ...along with location of Japan and england. Lots of changes. Alost too many to name.
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Honestly have been thinking that for the last week. New Zealand used to be located higher up towards Queensland and New South Wales as now it appears lower than Tasmania. I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this seriously what the fuck is going on ?
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Thank you! It's good to have confirmation. It's SO freaky!

Australia/New Zealand are some of the most dramatic changes, to me. Anyone else there talking about this?

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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Looks the same to me. Auckland is always pretty much level with Sydney. On checking google earth it looks the same today.
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Okay, thanks,good to hear from you.
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Honestly have been thinking that for the last week. New Zealand used to be located higher up towards Queensland and New South Wales as now it appears lower than Tasmania. I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this seriously what the fuck is going on ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71638813


NO, JUST NO.

Some maps are pretty shitty, but N.Z is where it has always been
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Honestly have been thinking that for the last week. New Zealand used to be located higher up towards Queensland and New South Wales as now it appears lower than Tasmania. I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this seriously what the fuck is going on ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71638813


Yep that was the first thing I noticed a few years ago.

Look at Japan it's a friking 1000 miles too far north!

I was not like that when I noticed New Zealand was out of place about a couple of years ago.

I Flew into Inchon Korea in 2012 and the beginning of 2016 and i mapped out the whole flight when i got home both times just because i was impressed with how far modern aviation has advanced. Japan was off the coast of China till a few months ago.

I Also flew into japan in 2001 got to look at Mt Fuji and it was off the coast of China then too.

Also went to China too in 2001 ...Mongolia showed up around then too,but i think that was political as understand.

In the 2012-2016 trips i flew over Canada as well and there was no thing called James Bay there then.

Nor was the Bering straight only 50 miles from Russia and the coast like of Alaska was flat mostly.

New Zealand Moved a few years ago,but just recently the was a complete change in geography in the world,just look around.
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Thanks for your insights! I noticed most of those too. Japan! WTF?? And Taiwan looks much bigger too.

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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Anyone else noticed this?

Google a world map and check it out:

I'm pretty sure Australia used to be much further south, way off by itself, except for New Zealand, which was pretty much due east, not way down near the bottom like it is now.

And NZ was in a more upright position, not laying on its side.

Also, look at how close Australia is now to that large island to the north--is that Borneo? Looks like the width of the English Channel is all that separates them. Like you could almost swim across. That seems all wrong!

Does anyone agree?
 Quoting: AwakeDreamer


I consider myself more geographically savvy than many. I have no doubt these changes you mentioned have occurred. I have been trying to figure out how these changes are occurring for 2 years now.

There is truly something strange going on. Don't let the naysayers cause you to doubt your memories. These changes are not a result of faulty memory or a lousy understanding of geography. Well maybe in some cases but for the most part this is a legit phenomenon.

The people that argue against it calling us idiots etc just don't understand how positive we are about our memories. These are the people who are native to this timeline or, and this is what I believe, are people whose memories are reprogrammed instantaneously to fit the new reality in the simulation and those people do not recall the originally because to them it never existed. It's almost like this simulation picks a sample of people, especially those closely tied to a change such as the citizens of NZ and Australia, and reprograms their memoires to fit the changes. The system might not have the power to alter everyone's memories. This is my theory. Seems like they are trying to slowly work the simulation theory into mainstream science with Elon Musk and Neil Degrasse basically saying chances are good this is a sim.
 Quoting: USFighterNH 40195532


Anyone else noticed this?

Google a world map and check it out:

I'm pretty sure Australia used to be much further south, way off by itself, except for New Zealand, which was pretty much due east, not way down near the bottom like it is now.

And NZ was in a more upright position, not laying on its side.

Also, look at how close Australia is now to that large island to the north--is that Borneo? Looks like the width of the English Channel is all that separates them. Like you could almost swim across. That seems all wrong!

Does anyone agree?
 Quoting: AwakeDreamer


I consider myself more geographically savvy than many. I have no doubt these changes you mentioned have occurred. I have been trying to figure out how these changes are occurring for 2 years now.

There is truly something strange going on. Don't let the naysayers cause you to doubt your memories. These changes are not a result of faulty memory or a lousy understanding of geography. Well maybe in some cases but for the most part this is a legit phenomenon.

The people that argue against it calling us idiots etc just don't understand how positive we are about our memories. These are the people who are native to this timeline or, and this is what I believe, are people whose memories are reprogrammed instantaneously to fit the new reality in the simulation and those people do not recall the originally because to them it never existed. It's almost like this simulation picks a sample of people, especially those closely tied to a change such as the citizens of NZ and Australia, and reprograms their memoires to fit the changes. The system might not have the power to alter everyone's memories. This is my theory. Seems like they are trying to slowly work the simulation theory into mainstream science with Elon Musk and Neil Degrasse basically saying chances are good this is a sim.
 Quoting: USFighterNH 40195532


Thanks. I've been wondering if we're being gently ushered in to a shifted reality by having these changes unfold gradually.
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Can't say I've ever noticed, I only see that part of my globe after I fall down drunk.
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Hahahahaha
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Anyone else noticed this?

Google a world map and check it out:

I'm pretty sure Australia used to be much further south, way off by itself, except for New Zealand, which was pretty much due east, not way down near the bottom like it is now.

And NZ was in a more upright position, not laying on its side.

Also, look at how close Australia is now to that large island to the north--is that Borneo? Looks like the width of the English Channel is all that separates them. Like you could almost swim across. That seems all wrong!

Does anyone agree?
 Quoting: AwakeDreamer


Agreed ...along with location of Japan and england. Lots of changes. Alost too many to name.
 Quoting: MissionInvisible


Anyone else noticed this?

Google a world map and check it out:

I'm pretty sure Australia used to be much further south, way off by itself, except for New Zealand, which was pretty much due east, not way down near the bottom like it is now.

And NZ was in a more upright position, not laying on its side.

Also, look at how close Australia is now to that large island to the north--is that Borneo? Looks like the width of the English Channel is all that separates them. Like you could almost swim across. That seems all wrong!

Does anyone agree?
 Quoting: AwakeDreamer


Agreed ...along with location of Japan and england. Lots of changes. Alost too many to name.
 Quoting: MissionInvisible


Yes, thank you. I mentioned on the moderated ME thread, I was just watching an episode of that show Numb3rs. It aired in 2009. And they had a world map on there that showed the new geography. Very trippy.
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Honestly have been thinking that for the last week. New Zealand used to be located higher up towards Queensland and New South Wales as now it appears lower than Tasmania. I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this seriously what the fuck is going on ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71638813


NO, JUST NO.

Some maps are pretty shitty, but N.Z is where it has always been
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Ok, appreciate your input.
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
Anyone else noticed this?

Google a world map and check it out:

I'm pretty sure Australia used to be much further south, way off by itself, except for New Zealand, which was pretty much due east, not way down near the bottom like it is now.

And NZ was in a more upright position, not laying on its side.

Also, look at how close Australia is now to that large island to the north--is that Borneo? Looks like the width of the English Channel is all that separates them. Like you could almost swim across. That seems all wrong!

Does anyone agree?
 Quoting: AwakeDreamer


Looking at maps today. New Zealand looks even more out of place today. Lying south east of Australia, almost underneath it.
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
The Panama Canal runs North to South like from 11 o'clock to 5 o'clock now because South America is so far East.

The whole of the bottom of Central America has moved accordingly.

Take a look for your self.
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The Island Nation of Costa Rica is NOW part of Central America and located between Panama and Nicaragua!
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Re: Mandela Effect: Did Australia and New Zealand Wander?
The Panama Canal runs North to South like from 11 o'clock to 5 o'clock now because South America is so far East.

The whole of the bottom of Central America has moved accordingly.

Take a look for your self.
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Costa Rica was a island nation not part of central america.
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The Panama Canal runs North to South like from 11 o'clock to 5 o'clock now because South America is so far East.

The whole of the bottom of Central America has moved accordingly.

Take a look for your self.
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Panama has not moved. I was stationed at Howard AFB in the 80's and both of my children were born at the U.S. Army hospital there. It looks the same as when I lived there.

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