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Jim Fetzer of Scholars for 9/11 Truth not on the level? | |
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| Lord Sir Walt U Hazeltree DDS User ID: 171294 United States12/19/2006 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | K00k fight!!!! Quoting: The Commentatoractually the kook fight might be between fitzers energy beams and the government's official story, with those two being kooky and jones being correct. - Lord Sir Walter U. Hazeltree, D.D.S. (Dental Surgeon) (LoL) |
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| Dean -- Iowa User ID: 138878 United States12/19/2006 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually the kook fight might be between fitzers energy beams and the government's official story, with those two being kooky and jones being correct. Quoting: Lord Sir Walt U Hazeltree DDSI've long suspected Fetzer to be a disinformation agent. He's added bizarre explanations to various events in the past, with 9-11 being the latest. The press fixates on Fetzer's explanations which allows the media to dismiss all other non-government explanations for the events. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 116561 United States12/19/2006 04:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Causing organizations to implode is standard technique for FBI COINTELPRO - style operations, and they appear to have had some success here. Also new "mind control" technology makes it possible to induce paranoia and distrust, and I suspect that is what has been done to Fetzer. He was made to be distrustful of Jones. I think Reynolds and Woods, who Fetzer has sided with, are the ones not on the level. Even IF they're right about beamed energy being used, it's NOT good strategy to stress that in alternative theories of how the buildings collapsed, it's too space-alienish. Also, even in that case, it can also be true that thermate was used as well. So why not FOCUS on the thermate, it's something people can understand easier, and doesn't scare them off -- and doesn't, unfortunately, tend to make the author of a theory paper look like a "woo woo". So I suspect Fetzer is being attacked with mind control techknology. That is it's main use, a secret weapon for political control. I'm not sure what he can do to protect himself from such attacks, except to wear aluminum foil shielding over his head (which has obvious negative effects on one's credibility). |
| 9/11 truth seeker User ID: 171386  United Kingdom12/19/2006 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fetzer is completely sincere, I don't doubt that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 116561Causing organizations to implode is standard technique for FBI COINTELPRO - style operations, and they appear to have had some success here. Also new "mind control" technology makes it possible to induce paranoia and distrust, and I suspect that is what has been done to Fetzer. He was made to be distrustful of Jones. I think Reynolds and Woods, who Fetzer has sided with, are the ones not on the level. Even IF they're right about beamed energy being used, it's NOT good strategy to stress that in alternative theories of how the buildings collapsed, it's too space-alienish. Also, even in that case, it can also be true that thermate was used as well. So why not FOCUS on the thermate, it's something people can understand easier, and doesn't scare them off -- and doesn't, unfortunately, tend to make the author of a theory paper look like a "woo woo". So I suspect Fetzer is being attacked with mind control techknology. That is it's main use, a secret weapon for political control. I'm not sure what he can do to protect himself from such attacks, except to wear aluminum foil shielding over his head (which has obvious negative effects on one's credibility). Nonsense! By focussing on the thermite evidence, don't you realise that 9/11 truth seekers would be setting themselves up for being debunked, as believers in the official story have only got to suggest that thermite was used in the cutting up of girders at Ground Zero (and there is some photographic evidence of this) and Jones' scenario is blown sky high together with the credibility of the 9/11 truth movement. Fetzer realises this danger. He was not made distrustful of Jones' work! Its scientific inadequacy is plain to anyone like myself with three degrees in physics. Wood's analysis has utterly discredited Jones' work and revealed his errors. Moreover, Fetzer knows that use of thermite/thermate could have been only a small cause of the total pulverisation of the two towers, for it would still have left large chunks of concrete and plenty of girders in the debris, whereas there was very little of either. That's why he has withdrawn his support from Jones and sided with Wood. Jones is now expressing sour grapes because he is no longer the centre of the limelight in which he likes to be. It is unscientific of him to ignore all possibilities simply because to HIS narrow imagination, they seem to be far-fetched. Perhaps that's what the 9/11 plotters want everyone to believe so that the real truth cannot emerge. The reality now is that Jones' work is a sideshow, not the main event, for thermite/thermate could not have caused all the anomalous damage revealed by Wood's photos and the total dustification of most of the steel and concrete in the two towers. Wood's research has left Jones far behind, unable to explain all the new evidence that she has revealed and unable to account for why the towers were not subject to a controlled demolition in the strict sense but were mostly vaporized. Yes, thermite may be more believable a priori than directed energy weapons. But only in a psychological sense, not in terms of the available evidence. But it is the actual scientific truth that matters, however hard it is to believe, not half-baked views of it that can be easily dismissed by believers in the official story, as Jones' theory can be. If anyone is the disrupting influence that is splitting opinion amongst 9/11 truth seekers, it is Professor Jones, who cannot swallow his pride by admitting that his theory of controlled demolition is only a small part of the truth, not the whole truth. So he resorts to dismissive hyperbole ("space beams")in a vain attempt to make Wood's theory look silly. Of course, her theory sounds like science fiction. But only to those of you who are totally in the dark about what weapons the US military may have secretly developed. It could well be that the plotters of 9/11 are banking that we don't believe such advanced weapons were used, so that their supporters can shoot down anyone like Jones who comes up with the stupid theory that thermite/thermate alone was sufficient to cause the degree of destruction of the two towers. Fetzer knows that his organisation is setting itself to be shot down if he supports Jones' theory. That's why he has withdrawn his support for it. Jones may pretend to be alarmed by the switch of sides, but he has only himself to blame in advocating such an inadequate theory. Finally, ask yourselves this: given Jones's disreputable collaboration with physicists from Harvard and CalTech to rubbish the research field of cold fusion before the subject even got off the ground - something for which many physicists will never forgive him - can you really trust him? Frankly, I don't. I think there is a real possibility that he is a plant in the 9/11 truth movement, intended to split its followers by leading them up the wrong path with a blatantly false explanation of how the two towers were demolished. He certainly did not seem to put out very much when he was asked to resign from his post at BYU. For most scientists, such an end of a career would have been shattering. The notion that Fetzer is the disrupting plant is laughable. Anyone who believes that is merely displaying their total ignorance of the man and his past research. Some of you need to get real and ask yourselves who here is playing whom for the sucker. |
