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Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge

 
nikki nikita  (OP)

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06/05/2016 03:58 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
Good luck getting it taken down op.

I googled a similar problem and this was the answer.
Ass Holes. Like anyone has time to do this crap,
___________________________________________________________

So there actually is a process Debbie to get a page removed or to take control of it. I was able to get through to Facebook through various means/connections to figure out what to do. I'm not sure how to create a ticket to start the process, but once you get that (it was created for me) the process looks something like this:

1. A copy of a valid government-issued photo ID, such as a current driver's license or a passport, of the individual signing the statement. See the different kinds of IDs we accept in the Help Center:

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

2. A notarized and signed statement from a person with sufficient knowledge and authority over this matter that includes all of the following:

a) A description of your relationship to the Page (and authority to request a change in the person(s) who manage the Page, as applicable);

b) The name of the current person(s) who manage the Page, as applicable;

c) The relationship of the above person(s) to the Page;

d) An explanation of your request, and whether there has been a termination of the employment and/or business relationship with the named person(s), as applicable;

e) All documentation supporting your request;

f) The Facebook account or email address associated with the Facebook account (or Timeline) that you wish to have added as the new admin of the Page; and

g) A declaration under penalty of perjury that the information you have provided is true and accurate (your statement must include this language).
 Quoting: Aquagrass

thank you.
I didn't remove the page because I understand the system. they would just put it back up again... without my knowledge.

this is some fucking scam with Facebook. really.
my company was kept separate for legal purposes and now they've linked me to it.

so to remain private I have to beat the system and take my own precautions.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


I already told you what to do, sue them! If you can't figure out how to do that are any of your business's logo or names copyrighted? If so and they use any of them sue the shit out of them!!! If not copyright them...
 Quoting: Daggo

there is no logo, just the name of the company, address, and phone number.
it's a marketing ploy.
they are trying to help small business grow.

in my case... I don't need that, don't want that, and privacy is important.

I'm just perplexed about the ease in which FB collects data. it's mindblowing.
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06/05/2016 04:01 PM
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I'm just perplexed about the ease in which FB collects data. it's mindblowing.
 Quoting: nikki nikita



only if you don't understand the true nature of what's happening. imagine that all companies running the internet are actually one company.

that company bills your personal email, so it knows you.
it issues your ip address, so it knows you.
it reads the page hits, so it knows your customers.
it hosts your company, so it knows you.
it reads your email. so it knows your friends.

etc, etc.
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06/05/2016 04:03 PM
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I'm just perplexed about the ease in which FB collects data. it's mindblowing.
 Quoting: nikki nikita



only if you don't understand the true nature of what's happening. imagine that all companies running the internet are actually one company.

that company bills your personal email, so it knows you.
it issues your ip address, so it knows you.
it reads the page hits, so it knows your customers.
it hosts your company, so it knows you.
it reads your email. so it knows your friends.

etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72307152


The Beast

Controls the internet
Anonymous Coward
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06/05/2016 04:09 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
I just randomly searched my business on facebook and it popped up with my phone number and address.

I didn't make that page. the information was taken from government registry without my knowledge.

Facebook connected me to my business on their own.

I kept my business private because it's not for public knowledge. we don't advertise. I'm so pissed.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


white pages kept doing the same to me, although relisting my home address online along with my name and phone number. After six months of arguing with them to remove it I contacted my state attorney general. Within weeks his office sent a letter to them to remove my information permanently or they would face legal action.

All I had to do was submit records of my email's to white pages and they got hammered by the AG...
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06/05/2016 04:13 PM
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Don't use Facebook.
 Quoting: Corkygreenstate


still there are others, like those find-people companies that connect all the information about people and consolidate it in one place.

no going off grid. ever.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


oh there are ways to go off grid and NEVER be found ever. you just gotta be SMART ABOUT IT. think think think...
nikki nikita  (OP)

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06/05/2016 04:18 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
I'm just perplexed about the ease in which FB collects data. it's mindblowing.
 Quoting: nikki nikita



only if you don't understand the true nature of what's happening. imagine that all companies running the internet are actually one company.

that company bills your personal email, so it knows you.
it issues your ip address, so it knows you.
it reads the page hits, so it knows your customers.
it hosts your company, so it knows you.
it reads your email. so it knows your friends.

etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72307152


when did companies/entities get access to IPs?
nikki nikita  (OP)

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06/05/2016 04:19 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
I just randomly searched my business on facebook and it popped up with my phone number and address.

I didn't make that page. the information was taken from government registry without my knowledge.

Facebook connected me to my business on their own.

I kept my business private because it's not for public knowledge. we don't advertise. I'm so pissed.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


white pages kept doing the same to me, although relisting my home address online along with my name and phone number. After six months of arguing with them to remove it I contacted my state attorney general. Within weeks his office sent a letter to them to remove my information permanently or they would face legal action.

All I had to do was submit records of my email's to white pages and they got hammered by the AG...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47402853


this makes me think that the witness protection plan is not possible anymore.
Anonymous Coward
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06/05/2016 04:19 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
Don't use Facebook.
 Quoting: Corkygreenstate


still there are others, like those find-people companies that connect all the information about people and consolidate it in one place.

no going off grid. ever.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


oh there are ways to go off grid and NEVER be found ever. you just gotta be SMART ABOUT IT. think think think...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69058933



start with a pay-as-you-go phone,
pay cash for the cards,
then use that for internet access.
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06/05/2016 04:21 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
I just randomly searched my business on facebook and it popped up with my phone number and address.

I didn't make that page. the information was taken from government registry without my knowledge.

Facebook connected me to my business on their own.

I kept my business private because it's not for public knowledge. we don't advertise. I'm so pissed.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


white pages kept doing the same to me, although relisting my home address online along with my name and phone number. After six months of arguing with them to remove it I contacted my state attorney general. Within weeks his office sent a letter to them to remove my information permanently or they would face legal action.

All I had to do was submit records of my email's to white pages and they got hammered by the AG...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47402853


this makes me think that the witness protection plan is not possible anymore.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


I agree, the bad part is that even if you get it removed, someone already has your company info in their database and it will be spread far and wide
Anonymous Coward
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06/05/2016 04:25 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
I'm just perplexed about the ease in which FB collects data. it's mindblowing.
 Quoting: nikki nikita



only if you don't understand the true nature of what's happening. imagine that all companies running the internet are actually one company.

that company bills your personal email, so it knows you.
it issues your ip address, so it knows you.
it reads the page hits, so it knows your customers.
it hosts your company, so it knows you.
it reads your email. so it knows your friends.

etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72307152


when did companies/entities get access to IPs?
 Quoting: nikki nikita



hahaha.

what do you think they're buying and selling?

google sells its info to facebook,
facebook sells to verizon,
verizon sells to Yahoo,
etc, etc, etc.
nikki nikita  (OP)

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06/05/2016 04:26 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
I just randomly searched my business on facebook and it popped up with my phone number and address.

I didn't make that page. the information was taken from government registry without my knowledge.

Facebook connected me to my business on their own.

I kept my business private because it's not for public knowledge. we don't advertise. I'm so pissed.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


white pages kept doing the same to me, although relisting my home address online along with my name and phone number. After six months of arguing with them to remove it I contacted my state attorney general. Within weeks his office sent a letter to them to remove my information permanently or they would face legal action.

All I had to do was submit records of my email's to white pages and they got hammered by the AG...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47402853


this makes me think that the witness protection plan is not possible anymore.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


I agree, the bad part is that even if you get it removed, someone already has your company info in their database and it will be spread far and wide
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47402853

exactly.
and they eventually sell that list to someone else.

but what's also bothersome is that artificial intelligence has advanced so much in the past 5 years that it's scary.
nikki nikita  (OP)

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06/05/2016 04:28 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
I'm just perplexed about the ease in which FB collects data. it's mindblowing.
 Quoting: nikki nikita



only if you don't understand the true nature of what's happening. imagine that all companies running the internet are actually one company.

that company bills your personal email, so it knows you.
it issues your ip address, so it knows you.
it reads the page hits, so it knows your customers.
it hosts your company, so it knows you.
it reads your email. so it knows your friends.

etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72307152


when did companies/entities get access to IPs?
 Quoting: nikki nikita



hahaha.

what do you think they're buying and selling?

google sells its info to facebook,
facebook sells to verizon,
verizon sells to Yahoo,
etc, etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72307152


I don't have a smartphone. still an old flip phone.
still can be pinged but I'm not wired completely.
Anonymous Coward
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06/05/2016 04:29 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
I'm just perplexed about the ease in which FB collects data. it's mindblowing.
 Quoting: nikki nikita



only if you don't understand the true nature of what's happening. imagine that all companies running the internet are actually one company.

that company bills your personal email, so it knows you.
it issues your ip address, so it knows you.
it reads the page hits, so it knows your customers.
it hosts your company, so it knows you.
it reads your email. so it knows your friends.

etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72307152


when did companies/entities get access to IPs?
 Quoting: nikki nikita



hahaha.

what do you think they're buying and selling?

google sells its info to facebook,
facebook sells to verizon,
verizon sells to Yahoo,
etc, etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72307152



they cross-match is all up, find your identity
to sell you ads.

there's an entire stock exchange behind the scenes
now that prices the data in real-time,
buys and sells slices of time, etc.
nikki nikita  (OP)

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06/05/2016 04:29 PM
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Don't use Facebook.
 Quoting: Corkygreenstate


still there are others, like those find-people companies that connect all the information about people and consolidate it in one place.

no going off grid. ever.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


oh there are ways to go off grid and NEVER be found ever. you just gotta be SMART ABOUT IT. think think think...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69058933



start with a pay-as-you-go phone,
pay cash for the cards,
then use that for internet access.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72307152


nah, I'm thinking Grizzly Adams off grid. lol
Anonymous Coward
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06/05/2016 04:36 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
it is tricky.

I've been wondering how solicitors have been getting my phone number and now I know. thanks facebook, bastards.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


You need to use an Avatar name on Facebook just like you do here. My FB name is my first and middle name - and does not contain my last name. I utilize Facebook primarily as an alternate email service for the rather smallish group of people I have listed as my friends. I also have liked certain pages that post articles and news so its sort of like a newsfeed of information with some input from people I know sprinkled in. I do not post my personal business. I do not post selfies. I do not brag up the kid. I use it as a communication device and news feed.

It can be a resource like email but you have to be smart about how you use it.
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06/05/2016 04:38 PM
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[link to www.cbsnews.com]


I don't know where you've been.

This has been common knowledge for several years,
and was known by many IT people like me before that.


"The website doesn't require users to give their real name. But the IP address and the computer ID number are recorded and it is not difficult for data brokers to match that information with other online identifiers. There are firms that specialize in doing it.

Steve Kroft: So you can combine this data with other data that's available and figure out who someone is?

Ashkan Soltani: That's right.

Steve Kroft: By name, by email?

Ashkan Soltani: That's right. That's right."
Ag47

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Op I'm sorry but my point was don't have a personal or business Facebook page. Can't connect you then
 Quoting: Corkygreenstate


but here's the thing.
I want a personal FB page.
I don't want my business connected to my personal life unless I control that. and I have good reason.
that's not for Facebook to choose, that is my choice. well... no longer.
that's hegemony.
hegemony leads to communism.

I don't need a solution. I'm pissed that this happened so easily and a prime example of how we are losing freedoms. how we as people are being consolidated into databases so rapidly and covertly. it's alarming in real time.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Soooo... What kind of shady ass business are you running?
nikki nikita  (OP)

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06/05/2016 05:32 PM
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Op I'm sorry but my point was don't have a personal or business Facebook page. Can't connect you then
 Quoting: Corkygreenstate


but here's the thing.
I want a personal FB page.
I don't want my business connected to my personal life unless I control that. and I have good reason.
that's not for Facebook to choose, that is my choice. well... no longer.
that's hegemony.
hegemony leads to communism.

I don't need a solution. I'm pissed that this happened so easily and a prime example of how we are losing freedoms. how we as people are being consolidated into databases so rapidly and covertly. it's alarming in real time.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Soooo... What kind of shady ass business are you running?
 Quoting: Ag47


lol
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06/05/2016 05:34 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
I just randomly searched my business on facebook and it popped up with my phone number and address.

I didn't make that page. the information was taken from government registry without my knowledge.

Facebook connected me to my business on their own.

I kept my business private because it's not for public knowledge. we don't advertise. I'm so pissed.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Hows about you get a lawyer and sue the living shit out of Facebook. Do it for the rest of us to set a precedent. danceshitstir2smile_kiss
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
I just randomly searched my business on facebook and it popped up with my phone number and address.

I didn't make that page. the information was taken from government registry without my knowledge.

Facebook connected me to my business on their own.

I kept my business private because it's not for public knowledge. we don't advertise. I'm so pissed.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


white pages kept doing the same to me, although relisting my home address online along with my name and phone number. After six months of arguing with them to remove it I contacted my state attorney general. Within weeks his office sent a letter to them to remove my information permanently or they would face legal action.

All I had to do was submit records of my email's to white pages and they got hammered by the AG...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47402853


this makes me think that the witness protection plan is not possible anymore.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


hesright
Azila_Again

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06/06/2016 09:27 PM
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Re: Facebook automatically posted my business without my knowledge
Good luck getting it taken down op.

I googled a similar problem and this was the answer.
Ass Holes. Like anyone has time to do this crap,
___________________________________________________________

So there actually is a process Debbie to get a page removed or to take control of it. I was able to get through to Facebook through various means/connections to figure out what to do. I'm not sure how to create a ticket to start the process, but once you get that (it was created for me) the process looks something like this:

1. A copy of a valid government-issued photo ID, such as a current driver's license or a passport, of the individual signing the statement. See the different kinds of IDs we accept in the Help Center:

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

2. A notarized and signed statement from a person with sufficient knowledge and authority over this matter that includes all of the following:

a) A description of your relationship to the Page (and authority to request a change in the person(s) who manage the Page, as applicable);

b) The name of the current person(s) who manage the Page, as applicable;

c) The relationship of the above person(s) to the Page;

d) An explanation of your request, and whether there has been a termination of the employment and/or business relationship with the named person(s), as applicable;

e) All documentation supporting your request;

f) The Facebook account or email address associated with the Facebook account (or Timeline) that you wish to have added as the new admin of the Page; and

g) A declaration under penalty of perjury that the information you have provided is true and accurate (your statement must include this language).
 Quoting: Aquagrass

thank you.
I didn't remove the page because I understand the system. they would just put it back up again... without my knowledge.

this is some fucking scam with Facebook. really.
my company was kept separate for legal purposes and now they've linked me to it.

so to remain private I have to beat the system and take my own precautions.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


I already told you what to do, sue them! If you can't figure out how to do that are any of your business's logo or names copyrighted? If so and they use any of them sue the shit out of them!!! If not copyright them...
 Quoting: Daggo




Ahhhhh....excellent. Just got my trademark/copyright papers 3 weeks ago. I'm going to go this route.

Asshole FB.
If they say it's true, it probably isn't.
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06/06/2016 09:32 PM
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ill say it once more..every action they take and aspect of them is criminal..they are sociopaths there is no debate
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06/06/2016 09:45 PM

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FB says comply...and you will, the Matrix is learning. Stop resisting.
On the other hand, I have different fingers.
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06/06/2016 10:05 PM
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wtf
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06/06/2016 10:21 PM
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Don't use Facebook.
 Quoting: Corkygreenstate


Love it from a distance

Even I cannot deny it's usefulness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70367657


Its business model is toast with interaction crashing
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06/06/2016 10:27 PM
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According to their Terms of Service... If your fb friiend plays a game on fb, they waive all your rights.
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06/06/2016 10:31 PM
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zuckface

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nikki nikita  (OP)

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06/07/2016 10:07 AM
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the point is about privacy.

back in the day it was easier to stay out of the network of corporate America. now technology has given corporations access to all records.
Freedom of Information Act, which is a good thing has it's drawbacks. it allows people free access to government documents, and allows people free access to everyone's documents. this is a transparent society.

if America has an enemy they can access these documents too. because law does not limit who can access, transparency can be harmful.

drawing that line between personal transparency takes some knowledge about US Law.





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