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EVEN GRANDMA HAD PREMARITAL SEX , SURVEY FINDS
More than nine out of 10 Americans, men and women alike, have had premarital sex, according to a new study. The high rates extend even to women born in the 1940s, challenging perceptions that people were more chaste in the past.

“This is reality-check research,” said the study’s author, Lawrence Finer. “Premarital sex is normal behavior for the vast majority of Americans, and has been for decades.”

Finer is a research director at the Guttmacher Institute, a private New York-based think tank that studies sexual and reproductive issues and which disagrees with government-funded programs that rely primarily on abstinence-only teachings. The study, released Tuesday, appears in the new issue of Public Health Reports.
The study, examining how sexual behavior before marriage has changed over time, was based on interviews conducted with more than 38,000 people — about 33,000 of them women — in 1982, 1988, 1995 and 2002 for the federal National Survey of Family Growth. According to Finer’s analysis, 99 percent of the respondents had had sex by age 44, and 95 percent had done so before marriage.

Even among a subgroup of those who abstained from sex until at least age 20, four-fifths had had premarital sex by age 44, the study found.

Sex stable since the '50s
Finer said the likelihood of Americans having sex before marriage has remained stable since the 1950s, though people now wait longer to get married and thus are sexually active as singles for extensive periods.

The study found women virtually as likely as men to engage in premarital sex, even those born decades ago. Among women born between 1950 and 1978, at least 91 percent had had premarital sex by age 30, he said, while among those born in the 1940s, 88 percent had done so by age 44.
“The data clearly show that the majority of older teens and adults have already had sex before marriage, which calls into question the federal government’s funding of abstinence-only-until-marriage programs for 12- to 29-year-olds,” Finer said.

Under the Bush administration, such programs have received hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding.

“It would be more effective,” Finer said, “to provide young people with the skills and information they need to be safe once they become sexually active — which nearly everyone eventually will.”

Wade Horn, assistant secretary for children and families at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, defended the abstinence-only approach for teenagers.



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Re: EVEN GRANDMA HAD PREMARITAL SEX , SURVEY FINDS
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Everybody I know over the age of 70 says aside from technology that nothing has changed.
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My mom (who is a grandma) claims she NEVER had premarital sex, rarely drank, never drugs and always did the right thing...So hard to live up to her idea of perfection!!!
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I'm a gramma...and I know I did! cheer
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My mom (who is a grandma) claims she NEVER had premarital sex, rarely drank, never drugs and always did the right thing...So hard to live up to her idea of perfection!!!
 Quoting: ONMYOWN


She just told you that so you wouldn't be a problem child.
My mom did the same thing and I found out alot after she passed away.
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my Grandmothra tells me many many secrets of her past and the pasts of my friends' gramma's. SHOCKING! HILARIOUS! and... sometimes envious
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ummm
family members don't count chuckle
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of course she did, how else did we get here
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Apparently an agenda-driven survey, and meaningless anyway.

C'mon, who is going to risk the mockery inherent in today's society by admitting they were a virgin when they married, or are still a single virgin???

I think the numbers are skewed to support the discontinuation of abstinence programs.

Also, did they define "sex" for the purposes of the survey? If someone just had oral sex but no intercourse before marriage, does that count? What about a hand job, etc??

Stupid survey, irrelevant....
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I did not.
We had no birth control pill at that time, and I was not about to get pregnant out of wedlock. I came from a family of 8 children and knew first hand the tough job it is to raise babies.
My husband of 38yrs and I dated three years and did not have sex before marriage. Of course 1yr he was in Nam lol..
I know many others just like me.
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Praise the Holy of Holy :Mar 5:29 And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague. Praise the Holy of Holy : Plegue from sin took place 2000 years ago,today doctors count over 140 different sex diseases!
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... challenging perceptions that people were more chaste in the past.

...Among women born between 1950 and 1978, at least 91 percent had had premarital sex by age 30, ...
while among those born in the 1940s, 88 percent had done so by age 44.
...
 Quoting: ConsPiraLicious

First, what happened at the beginning of the 60s? The "sexual revolution".

We go from 88% by age 44 to 91% by 30, but they weren't more chaste in the past?

Let's look at some real numbers, instead of self-reported numbers.

What were the number of unmarried teens giving birth in the 40s vs now? THAT will tell you the real story.
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Well now, my Gran certainly did and that was back in 1917. cool2
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They should have taken this survey back to those born in the 1920's... but then doing so would have shown a different result. It would have exposed the eugenics efforts of Sanger to aid in the destruction of the American moral fabric.
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... challenging perceptions that people were more chaste in the past.

...Among women born between 1950 and 1978, at least 91 percent had had premarital sex by age 30, ...
while among those born in the 1940s, 88 percent had done so by age 44.
...
First, what happened at the beginning of the 60s? The "sexual revolution".

We go from 88% by age 44 to 91% by 30, but they weren't more chaste in the past?

Let's look at some real numbers, instead of self-reported numbers.

What were the number of unmarried teens giving birth in the 40s vs now? THAT will tell you the real story.
 Quoting: Sir_Chancealot



Not quite true... you have to factor in unmarried teen pregancies and not unmarried teens giving births. Abortion would skew your data.
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I'm a gramma...and I know I did! cheer
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Apparently an agenda-driven survey, and meaningless anyway.

C'mon, who is going to risk the mockery inherent in today's society by admitting they were a virgin when they married, or are still a single virgin???

I think the numbers are skewed to support the discontinuation of abstinence programs.

Also, did they define "sex" for the purposes of the survey? If someone just had oral sex but no intercourse before marriage, does that count? What about a hand job, etc??

Stupid survey, irrelevant....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46519

They had handjobs in the 40's? blink

And I'm proud to call myself a virgin up untill marriage. We're so rare. Especially in this day and age.
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Apparently an agenda-driven survey, and meaningless anyway.

C'mon, who is going to risk the mockery inherent in today's society by admitting they were a virgin when they married, or are still a single virgin???

I think the numbers are skewed to support the discontinuation of abstinence programs.

Also, did they define "sex" for the purposes of the survey? If someone just had oral sex but no intercourse before marriage, does that count? What about a hand job, etc??

Stupid survey, irrelevant....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46519


FYI, the study, which appeared in the journal Public Health Reports, is based on data from the National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG), which is a survey that the US Centers for Disease Control conducts every 5-10 years. The new report uses data from the past 4 NSFGs (1982, 1988, 1995, and 2002).

Sex was defined as vaginal intercourse.

If you'd like to cite specific flaws in the study, by all means read the full study methodology (available at the link below) and tell us how the numbers are skewed.

[link to www.publichealthreports.org]
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No way, not my Grandma. She died a virgin.
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I did not.
We had no birth control pill at that time, and I was not about to get pregnant out of wedlock. I came from a family of 8 children and knew first hand the tough job it is to raise babies.
My husband of 38yrs and I dated three years and did not have sex before marriage. Of course 1yr he was in Nam lol..
I know many others just like me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 171033


We must be close to the same age.

Yes. With no birth control then, getting pregnant was a very strong deterent. Am unwed mother was not something you wanted to be - too much responsibility and too much 'embarassment'.
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Apparently an agenda-driven survey, and meaningless anyway.

C'mon, who is going to risk the mockery inherent in today's society by admitting they were a virgin when they married, or are still a single virgin???

I think the numbers are skewed to support the discontinuation of abstinence programs.

Also, did they define "sex" for the purposes of the survey? If someone just had oral sex but no intercourse before marriage, does that count? What about a hand job, etc??

Stupid survey, irrelevant....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46519


Obviously. Did you catch this little nugget in the article?

“The data clearly show that the majority of older teens and adults have already had sex before marriage, which calls into question the federal government’s funding of abstinence-only-until-marriage programs for 12- to 29-year-olds,” Finer said.

Under the Bush administration, such programs have received hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding.

 Quoting: Stupid News Article


That's the whole point of this "study". To stop the government-funded programs of abstinence, and promote promiscuity among Americans, young and old.
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That's the whole point of this "study". To stop the government-funded programs of abstinence, and promote promiscuity among Americans, young and old.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 143621



Given that the study appeared in a legitimate peer-reviewed public health journal and uses data from a nationally representative U.S. government survey, I don't see why you feel that the word study merits having quotation marks around it.
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Praise the Holy of Holy when you start having sex you spiritually are married or fornicating:Joh 4:18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly. Praise the Holy of Holy :amen I did not explain that the last time I posted it as a reply here!
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