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UPDATE: Job Applicants Line Up 'Out the Door' After Mass Illegals Raid...

 
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UPDATE: Job Applicants Line Up 'Out the Door' After Mass Illegals Raid...
Loss for one is another's gain
Applicants line up to fill jobs left empty by Swift plant raid
Darin McGregor © News

Travis Stoltz, 19, of Greeley, uses the glass door at the entrance of the Weld County Human Services office as a writing surface as he fills out an application for a job at the Swift & Co. meatpacking plant in Greeley. Applications were being taken for positions that opened because of Tuesday's raid by agents of the federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency.STORY TOOLS
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December 15, 2006
GREELEY - The line of applicants hoping to fill jobs vacated by undocumented workers taken away by immigration agents at the Swift & Co. meat-processing plant earlier this week was out the door Thursday.
Among them was Derrick Stegall, who carefully filled out paperwork he hoped would get him an interview and eventually land him a job as a slaughterer. Two of his friends had been taken away by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and he felt compelled to fill their rubber boots.

"Luckily, they had no wives or family they left behind. But it was still sad. They left their apartments filled with all their stuff. I took two dogs one of them had. The other guy had a cat I gave to my sister," he said.

Greg Bonifacio heard about the job openings on television and brought his passport, his Colorado driver's license, his Social Security card and even a color photograph of himself as a young Naval officer to prove his military service.

"I don't want to hassle with any identification problems because of my last name," said Bonifacio, a 59- year-old Thornton resident of Filipino heritage.

As it turned out, the Colorado Workforce office that was taking applications did not require any identification.

That would come later for those who made it past the interview process.

Bonifacio was hoping to get a job in production or fabrication. So was Nathan Korgan, a former construction worker whose company closed and moved to California.

"I feel bad for the kids, but good for me," said Korgan of Tuesday's raid.

Like many others who had mixed emotions about the raid, Maxine Hernandez said she was upset that families were torn apart, but believes illegal immigrants should not get work using fake documents.

"I guess I'm in the middle," she said. "But I do think they should have planned (the raid) better so that innocent children wouldn't be left behind."

Hernandez, who had gone to the employment office because her husband was there to apply for unemployment insurance, decided to apply for a job at Swift on a whim.

"My whole family used to work there. My mom, my aunt, uncles," she said. "I guess it sort of runs in our blood."
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Re: UPDATE: Job Applicants Line Up 'Out the Door' After Mass Illegals Raid...
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Guess Who Is Hiring Americans Who Happen To Be White?

By ED HOWARD

December 20, 2006

Some of the jobs Americans purportedly "won't do" have apparently been getting more popular among white people who are doing them these days - but for better money than the illegal immigrants they replaced.

Does this mean Lou Dobbs might be right? Or does it prove, as his critics have so often argued, that Dobbs is into anti-capitalist witchcraft, and should be burned at a non-union stake in Salem?

Union officials say Swift & Co. meatpacking plants have been hiring more Caucasians since the feds raided plants last week, looking for workers who were in the country illegally.

Up to 50 new workers have been hired at the Grand Island plant since the raids that snagged 261 workers there, according to Dan Hoppes, president of Local 22 of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union.

Hoppes told reporters: “The lion’s share of those people were Caucasian.”

Our guess is that he didn’t say “white people” because such could be subject to classification, by some, as politically incorrect.

In keeping with the industry’s traditional response to the raids, Swift & Co. has stuck with the excuse that it has never “knowingly” hired illegals. The company had not commented, at this writing, on the hiring of greater numbers of Caucasians.

This story has drawn global attention. A headline on the AP story in the Guardian Unlimited (UK) read: Unions: Swift & Co. Hiring More Whites. The same headline, and many similar ones, appeared in countless American venues. What some might consider more delicate descriptions appeared on the same story on lots of other MSM sites. Such as: Unions: Fewer Hispanic Workers Hired Since Swift & Co. Raids. Others just said that fewer immigrants were being hired, etc.

Here is the interesting thing about the new hires:

Union officials also said that Swift began improving wages, benefits and bonuses before the raids.

A reflection of the holiday spirit?

If so, it also reflected the fact that Swift & Co. knew well in advance that the raids were coming, and that replacements would be needed if illegal workers were hauled off. The company apparently was just being cautious, since it never knowingly hires illegal workers, but understands that such things can happen.

Union spokeswoman Jill Cashen told reporters:

"They're trying to staff up their plants and they've been raising their wages the past few weeks. To me, it's an example that when you make the job more attractive you get a different kind of applicant."

Define “a different kind of applicant.”

The industry and the government have said illegals do jobs that “Americans won’t do.” That’s a sissy way of saying that white people and black people who are citizens generally don’t want those jobs, given the lousy wages and benefits associated with them.

The recent hires at Swift might indicate that some Americans will do those jobs, for better wages and benefits.

Who’d a thought it?

Actually, it seems that the meatpacking industry knew it.

Among the first, rancid baloney to come out of the industry was the assurance that having fewer illegal workers meant more dollars would be paid for meat products.

That seems to translate this way:

“We don’t knowingly hire illegal workers.

“However, if the illegal workers we unknowingly hire were to disappear, the legal workers hired to replace them would not work for the crummy wages and benefits that illegal workers have to take if they want to work here.

“Paying wages acceptable to someone who is not, indirectly or otherwise, a fugitive from the law will cut into our profits. We don’t want that, so the consumer will have to make up the difference because we ain’t taking a penny less than we have been getting by unknowingly hiring illegally workers – which, by the way, we never knowingly hire.”
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Yeah its amazing the meat packing plant could even find anyone to apply. I mean weren't illegal aliens filling jobs citizens didnt want?
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Most illegals get paid cash and is pretty close to what others would get in their NET after taxes are taken out.

The employers are also not having to pay about 13% of the gross for the employer's portion of taxes.

Any employer who hires an illegal really should be facing jail time.
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Good for the new applicants (IE REAL WHITE AMERICANS), BRAVO to them.

Hope they enjoy twelve hour days at substandard wages and getting their limbs cut off an not getting compensated for it.
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Good for the new applicants (IE REAL WHITE AMERICANS), BRAVO to them.

Hope they enjoy twelve hour days at substandard wages and getting their limbs cut off an not getting compensated for it.
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The difference is we are legal thus we have laws backing us if we lose a limb. The illegals don't so the employer can take advantage of them. I know plenty of people who have worked 10 to 12 hour days; most LOVE the overtime pay. In fact though I don't think they should they start to count it as regular pay. Most men I knew when I was raising my children loved to get jobs with overtime if they wives were stay at home moms taking care of the home and children as the man's was the only income.

They won't get substandard wages either as they are legal so know what they should be paid for that type of job and can legally get it. Illegals open themselves up to much abuse by employers. I have even heard of employers not allowing them to leave the building to got get lunch. Most of that company had Hatian illegals instead of Mexican and South Americans though. An American wouldn't stand for such treatment from the employer slave drivers.
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Good for the new applicants (IE REAL WHITE AMERICANS), BRAVO to them.

Hope they enjoy twelve hour days at substandard wages and getting their limbs cut off an not getting compensated for it.


The difference is we are legal thus we have laws backing us if we lose a limb. The illegals don't so the employer can take advantage of them. I know plenty of people who have worked 10 to 12 hour days; most LOVE the overtime pay. In fact though I don't think they should they start to count it as regular pay. Most men I knew when I was raising my children loved to get jobs with overtime if they wives were stay at home moms taking care of the home and children as the man's was the only income.

They won't get substandard wages either as they are legal so know what they should be paid for that type of job and can legally get it. Illegals open themselves up to much abuse by employers. I have even heard of employers not allowing them to leave the building to got get lunch. Most of that company had Hatian illegals instead of Mexican and South Americans though. An American wouldn't stand for such treatment from the employer slave drivers.
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so if american workers are so good at knowing what their rights are, and demanding them

why have they been stupid enough to vote W into office two times, and put republicans in power who favor business and the wealthy, at THEIR expense?
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Re: UPDATE: Job Applicants Line Up 'Out the Door' After Mass Illegals Raid...
Most illegals get paid cash and is pretty close to what others would get in their NET after taxes are taken out.

The employers are also not having to pay about 13% of the gross for the employer's portion of taxes.

Any employer who hires an illegal really should be facing jail time.
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Not 13 %.

The correct figure that employers kick in is 7.65 %.

They match the 6.2% OASDI ( Soc. Sec. ), and
1.45 % Medicare.





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