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guns? best gun to buy?

 
nikki nikita  (OP)

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I am sure I'll get a lot of backlash over this, but I would not hesitate a moment to recommend the Hi-Point .45 Carbine. I bought one on a whim awhile back and am actually very pleased with performance, the forethought on some of the features, pricing and availability. I've fired more round through it than either my ARs (or any other rifle recently for that matter) and have not had one issue. Being American made and lifetime warranty is just icing on the cake.

[link to www.hi-pointfirearms.com]

Their handguns are pretty heavy and I don't care for them as much, but I have yet to see an issue with their carbines.
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ok dumb question.
can guns get wet and still fire?
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I am sure I'll get a lot of backlash over this, but I would not hesitate a moment to recommend the Hi-Point .45 Carbine. I bought one on a whim awhile back and am actually very pleased with performance, the forethought on some of the features, pricing and availability. I've fired more round through it than either my ARs (or any other rifle recently for that matter) and have not had one issue. Being American made and lifetime warranty is just icing on the cake.

[link to www.hi-pointfirearms.com]

Their handguns are pretty heavy and I don't care for them as much, but I have yet to see an issue with their carbines.
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ok dumb question.
can guns get wet and still fire?
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Yup.
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I am sure I'll get a lot of backlash over this, but I would not hesitate a moment to recommend the Hi-Point .45 Carbine.
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Not a big fan of hi-point but the guy has a point...
Pistol caliber carbines are light weight and fun/cheap to shot which is probably what you're looking for.

Just Right Carbine has a pink one :)
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the nickel plated is nice too
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I am sure I'll get a lot of backlash over this, but I would not hesitate a moment to recommend the Hi-Point .45 Carbine. I bought one on a whim awhile back and am actually very pleased with performance, the forethought on some of the features, pricing and availability. I've fired more round through it than either my ARs (or any other rifle recently for that matter) and have not had one issue. Being American made and lifetime warranty is just icing on the cake.

[link to www.hi-pointfirearms.com]

Their handguns are pretty heavy and I don't care for them as much, but I have yet to see an issue with their carbines.
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ok dumb question.
can guns get wet and still fire?
 Quoting: nikki nikita



that's a difficult question.

if you get enough water in the barrel,
and it's a high-power round,
you could blow up the barrel.

it's possible to kill the bullet primers, too,
but would probably take awhile if they got wet.
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I want a rifle. for a girl.

any suggestions?
what are the advantages, disadvantages?
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Find a range. Many will allow you to rent a firearm and will help you with familiarization on safety, loading, etc.

Guns are not one size fits all. What works for GLP posters may not work for you. That is why it is best you actually get some hands on at a range with a weapon before you buy one. For example, my wife likes her 9mm. I like my 44 black powder pistol-don't laugh, most self defense situations don't require more than 6 shots and I can shoot it faster than a semi auto pistol can cycle.

Anyway, OP, find a range and try a few out before you run out and buy.
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Are you crazy? Blackpowder revolver faster than a pistol? Lotta smoke, obscure your vision and aim... Blasting ain't same as hitting...

Try a .44 Schofield light load in an S&W model 29 if you want "fast". 200gr flatpoint bullet. But... that ain't for defense, much less offensive fighting use.

target loads in a .45acp match gun will make your head spin with the speed and accuracy they deliver; plus No Smoke!

Nothing like a S&W J frame 5shot .38special for concealment and speed; if you are moved for a hideout revolver.


While on topic of "speed", I've fired an A-2 sighted AR-15 at 200yds in match conditions, 10rds in 7sec and kept all rounds under 2". Light recoiling AR is a masterpiece for precision. A 77gr match bullet at 500yds delivers more energy than a .357mag 158gr at 25yds. Big energy delivery and fast precision is a great combination...
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Not crazy. Overhand grip. I practice a lot. Yes, faster than an auto can rack. You can find a similar speed test on YouTube. Ditto for the champion shooter who empties and reloads (with speed loader) a revolver in just a few seconds.

Triple 7 makes very little smoke. I don't use actual black powder. It's what I have trained with a lot and what I like to use. I use a 1858 Remington, which allows for fast cylinder changes and I have no worries about betting my life on it. I also retain my anonymity for the most part. No forms and mailed to my doorstep.

Schofield I like. I've tried 45 acp and wasn't impressed. Too many jams.
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Here ya go Nikki.

[link to grabagun.com]

Or this one if on a tighter budget.

[link to grabagun.com]

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Not crazy. Overhand grip. I practice a lot. Yes, faster than an auto can rack. You can find a similar speed test on YouTube. Ditto for the champion shooter who empties and reloads (with speed loader) a revolver in just a few seconds.

Triple 7 makes very little smoke. I don't use actual black powder. It's what I have trained with a lot and what I like to use. I use a 1858 Remington, which allows for fast cylinder changes and I have no worries about betting my life on it. I also retain my anonymity for the most part. No forms and mailed to my doorstep.

Schofield I like. I've tried 45 acp and wasn't impressed. Too many jams.
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Technically, it is possible to fire a revolver faster than an auto can cycle but few people can do it.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Ed McGivern was one.

"He emptied two revolvers in less than 2 seconds. He set another record on September 13, 1932, shooting five rounds from a double-action revolver at 15 feet in 2/5 of a second"
nikki nikita  (OP)

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Not crazy. Overhand grip. I practice a lot. Yes, faster than an auto can rack. You can find a similar speed test on YouTube. Ditto for the champion shooter who empties and reloads (with speed loader) a revolver in just a few seconds.

Triple 7 makes very little smoke. I don't use actual black powder. It's what I have trained with a lot and what I like to use. I use a 1858 Remington, which allows for fast cylinder changes and I have no worries about betting my life on it. I also retain my anonymity for the most part. No forms and mailed to my doorstep.

Schofield I like. I've tried 45 acp and wasn't impressed. Too many jams.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71835558



Technically, it is possible to fire a revolver faster than an auto can cycle but few people can do it.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Ed McGivern was one.

"He emptied two revolvers in less than 2 seconds. He set another record on September 13, 1932, shooting five rounds from a double-action revolver at 15 feet in 2/5 of a second"
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not sure I want to go through the process to buy a revolver. how long does it take?
nikki nikita  (OP)

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another dumb question. if there is a gun grab which ones will they collect?

am I better off with a rifle?
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another dumb question. if there is a gun grab which ones will they collect?

am I better off with a rifle?
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gun grab is immaterial.

decide your purpose for the gun.

hunting?
hunting moose?

self-defense?
self-defense at home?

etc, etc.
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06/13/2016 05:15 PM
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I want a rifle. for a girl.

any suggestions?
what are the advantages, disadvantages?
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Find a range. Many will allow you to rent a firearm and will help you with familiarization on safety, loading, etc.

Guns are not one size fits all. What works for GLP posters may not work for you. That is why it is best you actually get some hands on at a range with a weapon before you buy one. For example, my wife likes her 9mm. I like my 44 black powder pistol-don't laugh, most self defense situations don't require more than 6 shots and I can shoot it faster than a semi auto pistol can cycle.

Anyway, OP, find a range and try a few out before you run out and buy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71835558


Are you crazy? Blackpowder revolver faster than a pistol? Lotta smoke, obscure your vision and aim... Blasting ain't same as hitting...

Try a .44 Schofield light load in an S&W model 29 if you want "fast". 200gr flatpoint bullet. But... that ain't for defense, much less offensive fighting use.

target loads in a .45acp match gun will make your head spin with the speed and accuracy they deliver; plus No Smoke!

Nothing like a S&W J frame 5shot .38special for concealment and speed; if you are moved for a hideout revolver.


While on topic of "speed", I've fired an A-2 sighted AR-15 at 200yds in match conditions, 10rds in 7sec and kept all rounds under 2". Light recoiling AR is a masterpiece for precision. A 77gr match bullet at 500yds delivers more energy than a .357mag 158gr at 25yds. Big energy delivery and fast precision is a great combination...
 Quoting: Lester 72354521


Not crazy. Overhand grip. I practice a lot. Yes, faster than an auto can rack. You can find a similar speed test on YouTube. Ditto for the champion shooter who empties and reloads (with speed loader) a revolver in just a few seconds.

Triple 7 makes very little smoke. I don't use actual black powder. It's what I have trained with a lot and what I like to use. I use a 1858 Remington, which allows for fast cylinder changes and I have no worries about betting my life on it. I also retain my anonymity for the most part. No forms and mailed to my doorstep.

Schofield I like. I've tried 45 acp and wasn't impressed. Too many jams.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71835558

It was good enough for Frank James, Jesse's brother.
I have a Uberti 1858, 5 1/2" barrel, in satin nickel that is just like his gun. He robbed many's the train with it.
I hit everything I shoot at, and it's a lot of fun.

For gunfighting I would use something else though, but more power to ya.
People should use whatever they are best with.
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Not crazy. Overhand grip. I practice a lot. Yes, faster than an auto can rack. You can find a similar speed test on YouTube. Ditto for the champion shooter who empties and reloads (with speed loader) a revolver in just a few seconds.

Triple 7 makes very little smoke. I don't use actual black powder. It's what I have trained with a lot and what I like to use. I use a 1858 Remington, which allows for fast cylinder changes and I have no worries about betting my life on it. I also retain my anonymity for the most part. No forms and mailed to my doorstep.

Schofield I like. I've tried 45 acp and wasn't impressed. Too many jams.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71835558



Technically, it is possible to fire a revolver faster than an auto can cycle but few people can do it.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Ed McGivern was one.

"He emptied two revolvers in less than 2 seconds. He set another record on September 13, 1932, shooting five rounds from a double-action revolver at 15 feet in 2/5 of a second"
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not sure I want to go through the process to buy a revolver. how long does it take?
 Quoting: nikki nikita



I haven't bought any firearms in perhaps 15 years,
but most States have instant background check now.

Some States have waiting periods of perhaps two weeks.

[link to smartgunlaws.org]
nikki nikita  (OP)

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another dumb question. if there is a gun grab which ones will they collect?

am I better off with a rifle?
 Quoting: nikki nikita



gun grab is immaterial.

decide your purpose for the gun.

hunting?
hunting moose?

self-defense?
self-defense at home?

etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71674335


gotcha.
I want to snipe... zombies... at a distance.
don't want a cheapo gun.
short and light and easy.

and quiet.
do rifles have silencers? (forgive me).
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Guns are Evil They Scare Me!
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another dumb question. if there is a gun grab which ones will they collect?

am I better off with a rifle?
 Quoting: nikki nikita



gun grab is immaterial.

decide your purpose for the gun.

hunting?
hunting moose?

self-defense?
self-defense at home?

etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71674335


gotcha.
I want to snipe... zombies... at a distance.
don't want a cheapo gun.
short and light and easy.

and quiet.
do rifles have silencers? (forgive me).
 Quoting: nikki nikita

Snipe zombies at a distance..
The .25-06 is the flattest shooting, most accurate rifle for medium to larger game I know of, but the rounds are scarce and spensive, so the next best thing is the .243.
It doesn't really kick, shoots flat for 200 yards and just a hair low at 300.
High velocity boat tail wreaks havoc on impact.
I blew up groundhogs so bad they looked like sock puppets.
I'd try to find a deal on a Remington 700, older Winchester or Ruger rifle with a good scope, (3 to 9X) with a bipod.


Don't even kick, flat as a laser beam.
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get a girl not a gun am.m.o way cheaper
nikki nikita  (OP)

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Guns are Evil They Scare Me!
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guns don't scare me.
people scare me.

I mean... zombies.
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I want a rifle. for a girl.

any suggestions?
what are the advantages, disadvantages?
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I found the ar15 to recoil to the right it was wierd to shoot , but for a girl I recommend an mp5 , very little recoil and accurate as fuck op , sad used to use them , perfect for a woman
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I want a rifle. for a girl.

any suggestions?
what are the advantages, disadvantages?
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I found the ar15 to recoil to the right it was wierd to shoot , but for a girl I recommend an mp5 , very little recoil and accurate as fuck op , sas used to use them , perfect for a woman
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Get the Glock that Obama says holds lots of clips.
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Didn't you have a thread about a two months ago about a rifle you had?
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Ruger 10/22: Pros are small recoil, cheap ammo, and high mobility. Cons are little stopping power and ammo is, or at least was, scarce

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shiiit. that's a cheap ass gun.
I want something fancy.
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Ruger 10/22 can take pretty accessories to make it fancy.

I will be replacing an old .22 plinker with a Ruger 10/22 soon. It is perfect for target practice... and zombies. Bayonet lug required.
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I want a rifle. for a girl.

any suggestions?
what are the advantages, disadvantages?
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Glock 26!!! You can carry 10 12 15 33 rounds mags also drums of 50 and 100 rounds nothing better than this fun fun,and you can carry it tucked in your bra,I can show you how if you let me
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I want a rifle. for a girl.

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what are the advantages, disadvantages?
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Glock 26!!! You can carry 10 12 15 33 rounds mags also drums of 50 and 100 rounds nothing better than this fun fun,and you can carry it tucked in your bra,I can show you how if you let me
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I'd shoot my boob off. I'm a spaz. lol

um. oh yeah. I mean, yes please show me.
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This.

Inexpensive but works great, 40 S&W ammo can be used in a higher quality handgun.

This carbine looks a little ugly at first, but once you add the scope, grip handle, flashlight, laser, 2 magazine holder and a pretty sling, you are set.

30 rds in a workhorse of a carbine, all new for about $400.

Don't forget to add a bi-pod.

[link to www.hi-pointfirearms.com]
nikki nikita  (OP)

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another dumb question.
do rifle scopes have lasers?

no really. I'm going to walk into a shop and the person is going to think I'm a dumbass. my worst nightmare. lol.

at least here I don't care if yall think I'm a dumbass. lol

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ruger minis look cool.

do rifles kick like shot guns?
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It depends on the rifle. A .223/5.56 or 7.62x39 won't be much, especially semi-autos. On the other hand, a rifle that fires .308 or .30-06 will have recoil about like a 12 gauge shotgun.
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another dumb question.
do rifle scopes have lasers?

no really. I'm going to walk into a shop and the person is going to think I'm a dumbass. my worst nightmare. lol.

at least here I don't care if yall think I'm a dumbass. lol
 Quoting: nikki nikita


Most of them do not. I would generally advise staying away from ones that do. Cheap junk, in most cases.
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I keep a 22 lr and a big ol hole maker, and a shotty





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