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Europe's growing army of robot workers could be classed as "electronic persons" and their owners liable to paying social security for them if the European Union adopts a draft plan to address the realities of a new industrial revolution.
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politics of god topic /z\
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to feed immoral monsters
betraying all of mankind
profits of poverty and anguish
perverted maneating liars

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You are always, within context and scope, a voice of fresh air. I was just reviewing the Vestibule of Hell of The Opportunists just prior to coming in to see your familiar ~H.
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What does the H stand for ?
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Hidden, for now.

According to Gianazza, an intense, wiry Italian in his late fifties who looks a bit like the actor Ben Kingsley, the rocks sit precisely where the medieval verses said they would.

They point to the place where the secret is buried.

He has measured the distances between the rocks again and again, using a surveyor's tape and a small GPS gadget designed to help golfers measure the length of their drives.

The rocks all line up.
Everything computes.
This year, surely, the truth will be revealed
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"He puffed on his cigar and then shrugged. "It's a very beautiful story," he said."
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"the monetisation of truth"

maybe one day
when you pray
the answer will
be too expensive

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I remember thinking, even as a child, there is only a one letter difference between the word pray and prey. That thought grew as an adult, into a two letter difference, between debt and indebted. While on the other side of remembrance resides beloved.
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In 2008, neuroscientist Giulio Tononi at the University of Wisconsin-Madison’s Center for Sleep and Consciousness put forward his “integrated information theory,” which is currently accepted as one of the most compelling explanations about what consciousness is.
One of the central claims of the theory is that, for consciousness to exist, it must have “cause-effect” power on itself.
Neurologist Melanie Boly, a resident at UW’s School of Medicine and Public Health who has worked with Tononi, explains that for anything to exist, it must be able to have an effect; it must be able to make some small difference to something else.
“Consciousness exists for itself and by itself,” says Boly. “Thus it should have cause and effect on itself.”
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cause - effect power on itself is motive (motion)
consciousness must be able to make some small difference (motion measurement) to something else not itself to be real (measurable/comparable)
unless
everything is consciousness
which if true

“Consciousness exists for itself and by itself,” says Boly. “Thus it should have cause and effect on itself.”

that likely makes sense

thoughts
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I had a dream the other night like I was in this huge tower, I was in the middle of it and it was like my main personality was trying to show me a slide show or video on the walls of all my splintered selves. I was so desperate to remember all that went by me and tried to make mental notes of the situation, what was said etc. But now here I am stuck again with no memory.
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had a similar dream, less than a year ago. there were two separate towers in my dream. one of the towers was reminisce of the tower you described, complete with life pertinent information on display. the main difference between your dream and mine, was escape was the primary concern. escape occurred has both towers burnt to the ground.
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"ritual abuse" is a fancy way of saying raping and physically and psychologically torturing a child repeatedly.

Call it for what it fucking is.

should a child pity oneself that goes through that? I think so, especially if there is no pity for her or him in this severely fucked up world that labeled any pain or suffering "whining".

A raped child has a right to scream.
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Eagleheart66, I just saw your post. True wisdom. The abused have a right to scream. Yes, I was abused. Not sexually, but in every other way. I fought my attackers. Now at my age of 50 something, I fight. Childhood abuse needs to be stopped. We can recover. And it makes us a force to be reckoned with. I never asked "Why me." I always felt "Why not me." We are all in this battle together.
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I had a dream the other night like I was in this huge tower, I was in the middle of it and it was like my main personality was trying to show me a slide show or video on the walls of all my splintered selves. I was so desperate to remember all that went by me and tried to make mental notes of the situation, what was said etc. But now here I am stuck again with no memory.
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AC3405, my maiden name translates to Tall Tower. Your memories will come. In many different ways. It's not always easy. But you got this!
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No tower symbolism for me, but I did see two dead sparrows today.
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I had a dream the other night like I was in this huge tower, I was in the middle of it and it was like my main personality was trying to show me a slide show or video on the walls of all my splintered selves. I was so desperate to remember all that went by me and tried to make mental notes of the situation, what was said etc. But now here I am stuck again with no memory.
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AC3405, my maiden name translates to Tall Tower. Your memories will come. In many different ways. It's not always easy. But you got this!
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thanks for your nice words, they mean a lot. I'm not sure though I want all my memories to return tho if you know what I mean.
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I wouldn't mind...
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I wouldn't mind...
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you mean your memories? I thought you knew everything that had happened to you
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I wouldn't mind...
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you mean your memories? I thought you knew everything that had happened to you
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I do but I want answers. Well I do but there are things I want to learn. I don't know. My dreams make me wonder.
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I wouldn't mind...
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you mean your memories? I thought you knew everything that had happened to you
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I do but I want answers. Well I do but there are things I want to learn. I don't know. My dreams make me wonder.
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I might be following you I'm not sure. when I realized I can sometimes turn into one of my personas and not remember what I do, like Jack Nicholson's wolf or something, that was pretty scary for me. or are talking about what the original childhood traumas was for?
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I wouldn't mind...
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you mean your memories? I thought you knew everything that had happened to you
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I do but I want answers. Well I do but there are things I want to learn. I don't know. My dreams make me wonder.
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I might be following you I'm not sure. when I realized I can sometimes turn into one of my personas and not remember what I do, like Jack Nicholson's wolf or something, that was pretty scary for me. or are talking about what the original childhood traumas was for?
 Quoting: Circle of Dust


Can you tell me about your experiences?
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you mean your memories? I thought you knew everything that had happened to you
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I do but I want answers. Well I do but there are things I want to learn. I don't know. My dreams make me wonder.
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I might be following you I'm not sure. when I realized I can sometimes turn into one of my personas and not remember what I do, like Jack Nicholson's wolf or something, that was pretty scary for me. or are talking about what the original childhood traumas was for?
 Quoting: Circle of Dust


Can you tell me about your experiences?
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I'd like to, I'm just getting high anxiety myself atm. I just went into an episode friday night, altho it may have been that I just got drunk lol I would sometimes wake up in korea too like on a park bench in the morning and not remember how I got there, but I was drinking a lot then too and so just thought it was related to drinking. can't happen too frequently or I wouldn't think one would be able to completely function in the usual self right?
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I do but I want answers. Well I do but there are things I want to learn. I don't know. My dreams make me wonder.
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I might be following you I'm not sure. when I realized I can sometimes turn into one of my personas and not remember what I do, like Jack Nicholson's wolf or something, that was pretty scary for me. or are talking about what the original childhood traumas was for?
 Quoting: Circle of Dust


Can you tell me about your experiences?
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I'd like to, I'm just getting high anxiety myself atm. I just went into an episode friday night, altho it may have been that I just got drunk lol I would sometimes wake up in korea too like on a park bench in the morning and not remember how I got there, but I was drinking a lot then too and so just thought it was related to drinking. can't happen too frequently or I wouldn't think one would be able to completely function in the usual self right?
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You woke up in a foreign country?
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I might be following you I'm not sure. when I realized I can sometimes turn into one of my personas and not remember what I do, like Jack Nicholson's wolf or something, that was pretty scary for me. or are talking about what the original childhood traumas was for?
 Quoting: Circle of Dust


Can you tell me about your experiences?
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I'd like to, I'm just getting high anxiety myself atm. I just went into an episode friday night, altho it may have been that I just got drunk lol I would sometimes wake up in korea too like on a park bench in the morning and not remember how I got there, but I was drinking a lot then too and so just thought it was related to drinking. can't happen too frequently or I wouldn't think one would be able to completely function in the usual self right?
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You woke up in a foreign country?
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no I just used to teach english to kids over there for a few years. but then would go out drinking on the weekend usually, and there was one episode I remember where I absolutely didn't know how I got there on that bench. korea was also the place I'm pretty sure where I had the episode of turning into my higher functioning self and speaking those words of the OP in to the cell phone of that camo thread
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Can you tell me about your experiences?
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I'd like to, I'm just getting high anxiety myself atm. I just went into an episode friday night, altho it may have been that I just got drunk lol I would sometimes wake up in korea too like on a park bench in the morning and not remember how I got there, but I was drinking a lot then too and so just thought it was related to drinking. can't happen too frequently or I wouldn't think one would be able to completely function in the usual self right?
 Quoting: Circle of Dust


You woke up in a foreign country?
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no I just used to teach english to kids over there for a few years. but then would go out drinking on the weekend usually, and there was one episode I remember where I absolutely didn't know how I got there on that bench. korea was also the place I'm pretty sure where I had the episode of turning into my higher functioning self and speaking those words of the OP in to the cell phone of that camo thread
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Into the cell phone of that camo thread? You know the op of that thread was facts right?
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I'd like to, I'm just getting high anxiety myself atm. I just went into an episode friday night, altho it may have been that I just got drunk lol I would sometimes wake up in korea too like on a park bench in the morning and not remember how I got there, but I was drinking a lot then too and so just thought it was related to drinking. can't happen too frequently or I wouldn't think one would be able to completely function in the usual self right?
 Quoting: Circle of Dust


You woke up in a foreign country?
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no I just used to teach english to kids over there for a few years. but then would go out drinking on the weekend usually, and there was one episode I remember where I absolutely didn't know how I got there on that bench. korea was also the place I'm pretty sure where I had the episode of turning into my higher functioning self and speaking those words of the OP in to the cell phone of that camo thread
 Quoting: Circle of Dust


Into the cell phone of that camo thread? You know the op of that thread was facts right?
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no he wasn't, he just pretended to be by finding out the proxy that was used.
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No tower symbolism for me, but I did see two dead sparrows today.
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Umm, I'm trying to use my words wisely here. The birds know stuff is not normal. We have a family of deer living in our yard now. They've actually come up to our windows & bowed their heads. We also have other creatures camping in our yard that normally don't cohabitate. Birds chirp & make us aware of stuff too. All creatures know stuff is weird now. Look at the animal signs.

My husband went for a walk recently to a wild life refuge. A bright green helicopter circled him, then came down close to him. He turned and walked back to his car. Another car parked near him was watching & waiting. They followed him home. He was alone. He carries weapons I won't get into here. No guns. No need. But whoever these people are would have taken him if he was packing heat. This is our world now. Crazy.
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You woke up in a foreign country?
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no I just used to teach english to kids over there for a few years. but then would go out drinking on the weekend usually, and there was one episode I remember where I absolutely didn't know how I got there on that bench. korea was also the place I'm pretty sure where I had the episode of turning into my higher functioning self and speaking those words of the OP in to the cell phone of that camo thread
 Quoting: Circle of Dust


Into the cell phone of that camo thread? You know the op of that thread was facts right?
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no he wasn't, he just pretended to be by finding out the proxy that was used.
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I don't know man, I honestly think it was facts. Kinda had his fingerprints all over it :/
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I had a dream the other night like I was in this huge tower, I was in the middle of it and it was like my main personality was trying to show me a slide show or video on the walls of all my splintered selves. I was so desperate to remember all that went by me and tried to make mental notes of the situation, what was said etc. But now here I am stuck again with no memory.
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AC3405, my maiden name translates to Tall Tower. Your memories will come. In many different ways. It's not always easy. But you got this!
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thanks for your nice words, they mean a lot. I'm not sure though I want all my memories to return tho if you know what I mean.
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You're welcome. I know what you mean. Put all those bad memories behind you. That's not who you are any longer. Lay down the bad stuff & don't pick it up again. You are strong.
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no I just used to teach english to kids over there for a few years. but then would go out drinking on the weekend usually, and there was one episode I remember where I absolutely didn't know how I got there on that bench. korea was also the place I'm pretty sure where I had the episode of turning into my higher functioning self and speaking those words of the OP in to the cell phone of that camo thread
 Quoting: Circle of Dust


Into the cell phone of that camo thread? You know the op of that thread was facts right?
 Quoting: K-lis


no he wasn't, he just pretended to be by finding out the proxy that was used.
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I don't know man, I honestly think it was facts. Kinda had his fingerprints all over it :/
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nah he's got disinfo written all over him, but he wouldn't have the role if he wasn't any good. just ask him what the numbers mean. he'll have no idea, and even if he did, he wouldn't be able to disclose it I'd bet.

that and my remembering saying it, plus the childhood images they described of my programming brought back clear memories that only the family faction could have known--reason why they tried to bury the info like they always do on such threads.
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Into the cell phone of that camo thread? You know the op of that thread was facts right?
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no he wasn't, he just pretended to be by finding out the proxy that was used.
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I don't know man, I honestly think it was facts. Kinda had his fingerprints all over it :/
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nah he's got disinfo written all over him, but he wouldn't have the role if he wasn't any good. just ask him what the numbers mean. he'll have no idea, and even if he did, he wouldn't be able to disclose it I'd bet.

that and my remembering saying it, plus the childhood images they described of my programming brought back clear memories that only the family faction could have known--reason why they tried to bury the info like they always do on such threads.
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Well when or if you feel you can talk about it I am all ears
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no he wasn't, he just pretended to be by finding out the proxy that was used.
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I don't know man, I honestly think it was facts. Kinda had his fingerprints all over it :/
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nah he's got disinfo written all over him, but he wouldn't have the role if he wasn't any good. just ask him what the numbers mean. he'll have no idea, and even if he did, he wouldn't be able to disclose it I'd bet.

that and my remembering saying it, plus the childhood images they described of my programming brought back clear memories that only the family faction could have known--reason why they tried to bury the info like they always do on such threads.
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Well when or if you feel you can talk about it I am all ears
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sure, I just don't think this site would be the proper place for it
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but here are more of the pertinent posts, sorry so many!

Thread: I think we know who it is. His camouflage is very clever. (Page 10)

Thread: I think we know who it is. His camouflage is very clever. (Page 48)

Thread: I think we know who it is. His camouflage is very clever. (Page 50)

Thread: I think we know who it is. His camouflage is very clever. (Page 51)

Thread: I think we know who it is. His camouflage is very clever. (Page 72)

Thread: I think we know who it is. His camouflage is very clever. (Page 72)

Thread: I think we know who it is. His camouflage is very clever. (Page 73)

Thread: I think we know who it is. His camouflage is very clever. (Page 75)
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well, thing is, the mind is able to recover any dissociative states. The brain is plastic; trauma causes "erosion" and neurological imprints.

These imprints can be resolved by the conscious use of chi, an appreciation of the wah, and the 3 dimensional factorization of each dissociative state to anneal again, a whole person.
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The mind is able to recover and there's nothing pathological about ordinary dissociation which we all experience to some extent. But some people are constantly dissociating and they are half existent in a 'half-here-half-there' state by default, daydreams are like part of reality, they have inner voices with various personas , often high psi ability - incidently which tends to be augmented by trauma!

to some, maybe channeling or mediumship is actual really disssociation - not that one method of classification is more correct than another (the psychological over the mystical) just that they both refer to the same thing
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I find the states addictive and euphoric, but I don't think I'm fractured - I like to travel around in them frequently. I think if you follow the Eastern philosophies they are easier to reach, meaning there are methods that are not about ritual trauma - the mind is pushed in other ways.

I dunno, I find the Qi seeking is a pretty direct route. Once you feel it it will suck you right in its wake. Western minds might call or associate this as being evil. I think all seekers need to seek source and source is not the Europeans or Americans who made a new age-ry out of it like Madam B or Crowley. You have to go earlier and further East. As early as possible . . . JMO.

I also think your genetic code if you still your self will lead to path, there is no real reason why I seek a path further East and just ignore most Western based Histories about this.

The problem with the fracturing is they really don't get a reliable product most of the time.
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Hello. I've read all kinds of stuff on google on the new name for multiple personality disorder which is called dissociative identity disorder. I could give you guys all a rundown on the stuff that characterizes this disorder. But I won't right this second, maybe in a little bit.

Yeah, it's connected to project monarch and that sort of thing because they were experimenting with how to deliberately make a person DID who wasn't originally DID.

I guess there are also people who just happen to have bad trauma and this is the end result, with no connection to mind control stuff.

I also have a theory systematic child abuse is a form of mind control all of its own totally unrelated to like government sanctioned mind control.

Sick, but there are families out there who do this as a tradition to ensure loyalty to the family.

I'm really interested in this disorder and knowing more about it maybe from people with firsthand experience who want to talk about what it's like to have it.

Anybody willing to share some experiences or thoughts on this disorder?
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my ex was a programmed operative(assassin,procurer), or super soldier as they're now called, she didn't even know, part of her did, she was a cold blooded killer, but the other characters didn't know
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The brain is a quantum machine. A defense mechanism is for it to jump to a parallel universe to a safe place during traumatic experiences. It then becomes permanently linked to that universe. For some they can become the other them multiple personality disorder. For others they can latch on though sensory perception and they become schizophrenic. Then others latch on to emotions and often become manic depressive.





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