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Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?

 
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that can affect fragile people much more..


like for people who get hurted by drug

they were fragile or infragilited before
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that can affect fragile people much more..


like for people who get hurted by drug

they were fragile or infragilited before
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You mean addicts or people who have been traumatized in the past?
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If you know someone you suspect has DID, ask them "WHO'S OUT NOW?"
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If you know someone you suspect has DID, ask them "WHO'S OUT NOW?"
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Okay I'll try that, hopefully they won't assume I'm talking about the closet.
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that can affect fragile people much more..


like for people who get hurted by drug

they were fragile or infragilited before
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You mean addicts or people who have been traumatized in the past?
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people who have typical syntoms of drug addiction

drug is not a medicine

but they were fragile or diattentive before..
and they slipped on the peel of banana...

or ..as a proverb..


here the donk falls !

meaning there is an obstacle on the path where typically the people stumbles
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If you know someone you suspect has DID, ask them "WHO'S OUT NOW?"
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Okay I'll try that, hopefully they won't assume I'm talking about the closet.
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no, they will know what you are asking
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If you know someone you suspect has DID, ask them "WHO'S OUT NOW?"
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Okay I'll try that, hopefully they won't assume I'm talking about the closet.
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why shoudnt they assume you talking about that ??

and why shouldnt you propose your self as confident?
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in anyother case dont talk to them..

do not frequent them


would you faint to have situation with your familiars when you know they have drug or gambling addicions..


dont you try to insert elements of reflection to them ??
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dont you try to give em words that give to them good brivids ??


time ago i told to a person

very very delicate...

he has a gambling addiciton and he stated a 20 sec tic attack to the face !!!
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Hi K-lis... not an "expert" as in doctor... but I do have it. If you want to ask me anything, I'll try to answer as best as I can for the next half hour or so.
...And we're off to see the lizard
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do you interrupt the tic attack...

or not ??
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i have to go sleep now..

my actual problem
is ..wich is the correct answer to this next question


"what do you think about others ( the people, anybdy but you) "


usually people start making the description of themself..


wich is the correct techncial answer a doctor should give ?

or range
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Check out a few psych forums, a couple really popular ones have a subsection for Dissociative Identity Disorder.

I've always been interested in psychology. Their own posts can give you a lot of insight. But with DID it's also very very confusing to read - you can imagine.

I would say don't engage in conversation yourself - most of these psych forums act as support groups - so it might not really be the right place to ask questions. But still a good place to observe.
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Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
disassociation, something that has an internal origin within self and yet is distinctly foreign or is a recognizable nature other then your own.

a simple exxample, ex - previous, ample - quantity.

someone hears voice calling them, now if this voice is recognizable and benevolent the incident is dismissed as the mind's memory making associations. the incident is taken as a normal occurrence.

however if the voice is not a recognized voice, it may be a voice from a traumatic experience. an experience that brings uncertainity and bad feelings to the surface. the incident is not dismissed. an uncertainity grows around the experience, and unlike the the good memory asociation it takes a different path. the occurence, because of its unresolved nature becomes circular, and the pattern grows and manifest into
a repeating cycle, until a real schism occurs in the thought process. the bifurcation becomes conducive to personalities as a way of trying to explain a forgotten traumatic experience. a traumatic experience that originally was barely memorable reintroduces itself essentially via a random voice clip in one's mind. did, the mind obsession taking a dark turn.

somthing did happen! did is a learned reaction.

along the same vein, stuttering is a learned reaction. any learned reaction can be unlearned or moderateed if caught in time! lol
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Hi K-lis... not an "expert" as in doctor... but I do have it. If you want to ask me anything, I'll try to answer as best as I can for the next half hour or so.
 Quoting: Reignbeau Crow


If somebody asked you "Who's out" how would you answer?
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dont you try to give em words that give to them good brivids ??


time ago i told to a person

very very delicate...

he has a gambling addiciton and he stated a 20 sec tic attack to the face !!!
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You're saying it would probably freak them out to hear it? Same woth having any disorder in that respect...
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If somebody asked you "Who's out" how would you answer?

...Well I would answer with my birth name, as I've integrated most of my episodes. I have recovered most of my memories.
...And we're off to see the lizard
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When I was being raised by the state of Colorado I had the pleasure of being housed with an individual who had DID. It is a very scary thing, however the experience showed me that people who claim to have it do not. Experts from all around the world would come to Cleo Wallace Center to Study this person. This individual would change personalities depending on the time of day. Very radical Personality shifts far beyond what a person could act. Even when no clocks where present the Cycle would continue. There were a few personalities that appeared to come out situationaly, but the person cycled through 3 main personalities over the course of the day. The primary was a 8 year old girl with a very pronounced stutter.
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DID is such a severe illness once you are diagnosed you will most likely be in an institution as a lab rat for the remainder of your days. There is no way to keep someone with DID in society without them being a risk of harm to others. The liability alone keeps them inpatient.

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If somebody asked you "Who's out" how would you answer?

...Well I would answer with my birth name, as I've integrated most of my episodes. I have recovered most of my memories.
 Quoting: Reignbeau Crow


When did you recover your memories (like how old) and what triggered it and did it make you feel ill and how did you find a specialist who took you seriously, if you did?
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It is such a rare and serious cluster of symptoms that you can find research papers on all known cases. They do sometime change the name, but usually the illness comes to light through a violent crime so the names are in the papers.
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DID is such a severe illness once you are diagnosed you will most likely be in an institution as a lab rat for the remainder of your days. There is no way to keep someone with DID in society without them being a risk of harm to others. The liability alone keeps them inpatient.
 Quoting: Desertwolf


...really? but isn't it a disorder that develops in order to help a person continue to function, in the face of trauma - isn't that why it exists ? if so that doesn't make any sense - wouldn't a person be used to functioning with it in day to day? maybe not without pathology - of course, but...you see what I'm saying don't you?
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DID is such a severe illness once you are diagnosed you will most likely be in an institution as a lab rat for the remainder of your days. There is no way to keep someone with DID in society without them being a risk of harm to others. The liability alone keeps them inpatient.
 Quoting: Desertwolf


...really? but isn't it a disorder that develops in order to help a person continue to function, in the face of trauma - isn't that why it exists ? if so that doesn't make any sense - wouldn't a person be used to functioning with it in day to day? maybe not without pathology - of course, but...you see what I'm saying don't you?
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The theory is it is caused by a survival response to severe trauma. How can you survive modern society if you cannot be sure of who you are at any given moment? How do you keep a job? No modern society would only make the situation worse, these people are not capable of living a normal life in any stretch of the imagination. read some of the case stories. Most people diagnosed where kept isolated or prisoners for years before being discovered they where not in the general population to begin with .

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[link to www.healthyplace.com] some case studies

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Even the most successful person I am aware of Kim Nobel was institutionalized for years. She cannot drive she is in constant therapy, if she misses an appointment they baker act her ass. There is a book about it but her case is controversial many call fraud. Others say hers is a case of a possible cure.
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DID is such a severe illness once you are diagnosed you will most likely be in an institution as a lab rat for the remainder of your days. There is no way to keep someone with DID in society without them being a risk of harm to others. The liability alone keeps them inpatient.
 Quoting: Desertwolf


...really? but isn't it a disorder that develops in order to help a person continue to function, in the face of trauma - isn't that why it exists ? if so that doesn't make any sense - wouldn't a person be used to functioning with it in day to day? maybe not without pathology - of course, but...you see what I'm saying don't you?
 Quoting: K-lis


The theory is it is caused by a survival response to severe trauma. How can you survive modern society if you cannot be sure of who you are at any given moment? How do you keep a job? No modern society would only make the situation worse, these people are not capable of living a normal life in any stretch of the imagination. read some of the case stories. Most people diagnosed where kept isolated or prisoners for years before being discovered they where not in the general population to begin with .
 Quoting: Desertwolf


It's not usually that severe, though. Normal DID isn't like a "memento" situation where people are switching that rapidly that often and without coconsciousness between alters.

Dissociative identity disorder is characterized by the presence of two or more distinct or split identities or personality states that continually have power over the person's behavior. With dissociative identity disorder, there's also an inability to recall key personal information that is too far-reaching to be explained as mere forgetfulness. With dissociative identity disorder, there are also highly distinct memory variations, which fluctuate with the person's split personality.
 Quoting: web md


If you read the dissociative experiences scale, it talks about stuff like extreme daydreaming, trancing out, zoning out, compartmentalizing memories - if you read only the most extreme manifestation case studies you don't get an entirely accurate picture of those who have it - exactly the same as if you read a description of violent homicidal psychopaths you don't get an accurate picture of sociopathy. Do you know how many sociopaths actually are homicidal? very very few. Most of them are just involved in basic cons and can function unnoticed in society. They aren't "usually" ted bundy, but those are the "case studies" most people know of.

not an accurate representation of the whole...
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[link to listverse.com] more cases. notice every case involved long term institutionalization.
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Even the most successful person I am aware of Kim Nobel was institutionalized for years. She cannot drive she is in constant therapy, if she misses an appointment they baker act her ass. There is a book about it but her case is controversial many call fraud. Others say hers is a case of a possible cure.
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I read her book yeah. That case is rather extreme though. One of the most extreme, hence it being a book.
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Hello. I've read all kinds of stuff on google on the new name for multiple personality disorder which is called dissociative identity disorder. I could give you guys all a rundown on the stuff that characterizes this disorder. But I won't right this second, maybe in a little bit.

Yeah, it's connected to project monarch and that sort of thing because they were experimenting with how to deliberately make a person DID who wasn't originally DID.

I guess there are also people who just happen to have bad trauma and this is the end result, with no connection to mind control stuff.

I also have a theory systematic child abuse is a form of mind control all of its own totally unrelated to like government sanctioned mind control.

Sick, but there are families out there who do this as a tradition to ensure loyalty to the family.

I'm really interested in this disorder and knowing more about it maybe from people with firsthand experience who want to talk about what it's like to have it.

Anybody willing to share some experiences or thoughts on this disorder?
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Well there used to be one. =(
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Hello. I've read all kinds of stuff on google on the new name for multiple personality disorder which is called dissociative identity disorder. I could give you guys all a rundown on the stuff that characterizes this disorder. But I won't right this second, maybe in a little bit.

Yeah, it's connected to project monarch and that sort of thing because they were experimenting with how to deliberately make a person DID who wasn't originally DID.

I guess there are also people who just happen to have bad trauma and this is the end result, with no connection to mind control stuff.

I also have a theory systematic child abuse is a form of mind control all of its own totally unrelated to like government sanctioned mind control.

Sick, but there are families out there who do this as a tradition to ensure loyalty to the family.

I'm really interested in this disorder and knowing more about it maybe from people with firsthand experience who want to talk about what it's like to have it.

Anybody willing to share some experiences or thoughts on this disorder?
 Quoting: K-lis


Well there used to be one. =(
 Quoting: Five Star Bandit


What does that mean? verysad
Well, I know there was Jos but Seer made him go away.





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